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| #1jesse.two.coinsMar 09, 2011 7:42:29 | |
| #2JhariiMar 09, 2011 14:13:31 | Congrats! Turtle Beach makes some nice gear. I splurged for the X41's myself. They're hawt. |
| #3Robin_HoodlumMar 09, 2011 16:03:15 | jesse... pickings are slim down my way, and everything available is horrible. ;) Know what I mean?! |
| #4Robin_HoodlumMar 09, 2011 16:03:17 | jesse... pickings are slim down my way, and everything available is horrible. ;) Know what I mean?! |
| #5jesse.two.coinsMar 10, 2011 12:07:33 | jesse... I'm attempting to grow a hybrid of kush and sour deisel I don't have anything that could pass through mail though ![]() |
| #6jesse.two.coinsMar 10, 2011 12:08:10 | Congrats! Turtle Beach makes some nice gear. I splurged for the X41's myself. They're hawt. you're a gamer? ![]() |
| #7JhariiMar 10, 2011 13:31:21 | Congrats! Turtle Beach makes some nice gear. I splurged for the X41's myself. They're hawt. Definitely. Have been for 25 years now (Commodore 64!). I prefer PC games, but I have been warming up to the XBox for the last 6 months or so. The X41's can be used on both, so I coughed up the serious cash for those. |
| #8iqwinnMar 10, 2011 15:39:28 | Kewl gear! |
| #9Robin_HoodlumMar 10, 2011 17:33:49 | jesse... Man, I have been having to settle for some of the nastiest stuff I have ever... almost not even worth smokin'... almost;) |
| #10boraxeMar 11, 2011 8:33:00 | Congrats! Turtle Beach makes some nice gear. I splurged for the X41's myself. They're hawt. Pleas read this. |
| #11ADHadhMar 11, 2011 10:03:23 | Congrats! Turtle Beach makes some nice gear. I splurged for the X41's myself. They're hawt. Maybe "a gamer" should carry the same meaning as "a movie enthusiast", "an audiophile" or "a Trekkie", i.e. someone who doesn't just like his past time, he likes it a lot and knows more about the medium than your average Joe. A person that plays Farmville or WoW wouldn't be a gamer then, but someone who started with C64 or the NES and/or follows the same series for years or plays in a clan and/or buys specialized gaming equipment like gaming-specific headphones or keyboard or a more sophisticated gamepad could be called a gamer. |
| #12KillerGMMar 11, 2011 10:24:54 | Congrats! Turtle Beach makes some nice gear. I splurged for the X41's myself. They're hawt. Oh god no. Please, we don't need gamers feeling any more elite than they already do!! ![]() I'm all for liberal use of the word "gamer", so that it loses its elitism and/or stereotyping. I want the moms who play bejeweled to say "I'm a gamer". I want the kid who plays WoW to say "I'm a gamer". I want the people wh play Catan and Magic to say "I'm a gamer". I'm a gamer - a person who likes to play games. It's not an elitist title to me, but a quick way to say what I enjoy (such as a painter, or a baker). And I'm all for it losing its status!! ![]() |
| #13Cpt_MichaMar 11, 2011 10:59:00 | I concur with ADHadh. There's a difference between operating a vehicle and being a Driver afterall. So there is too a definitive difference between someone that plays his or her wii once in a while, and someone that well, lives and breathes games. It's not that Gamers are better people, but frankly Gamers tend to well play Games better. Be it having access to a much larger pool of information, (Guilds, Fleets, Clans, Teams, Forums) superior gaming equipment (Gamer Keyboards with Anti-Ghosting, Gaming Mice, Superior Computers or connection speeds), and or sheer dedication to mastering a game. If you pvp in an MMO, chances are you've learned the difference between a Pug (pick up group) and a PreMade Vent Team. The Pug group will die horribly every time, and in about seventy five percent cases, go onto the forum later and whine about Cheats Hacks, Exploits, or just how "Bad mannered and unsportsmanlike!" Premades are. All the while being the ones that spam zone chat with hate messages while the Premades simply say GG and move on. Ironically enough, it's generally the Pug type player in most games that tends to be the most Douche Like. Especially in an Established Game with a very Matured Player Base (ie new subs, or purchases don't happen that often) because frankly the pugs who are good mannered or worth playing with are already snatched up by the supposed vile PreMade Teams. The difference is very much akin to being someone capable of operating a vehicle, or someone knowing how to actually get the most out of it. The Gamer tends to be the one of the two that actually understands the mechanics involved. And that's why Gamer vs Casual Gamer needs to still be a distinction. I would hardly call myself a Baker, or a full on Chef. I can operate a stove, oven, toaster, microwave, grill, firepit and I can make decent meals. But that doesn't put me in the same zipcode as someone that loves to Cook. |
| #14KillerGMMar 11, 2011 11:09:44 | I was hasty in my use of baker, I'll admit. I'm all for a distinction between professions and hobbies - ie, don't call yourself a chef if you really just cook for yourself/family/whatever with no profit. I mean, you may really know how to drive your car and be awesome at it, but you're not a "driver" until you get paid for it, right? But for gaming? No thanks. I get fed up with people who think they play better than other people, or are better than other gamers out there because they've played more or know more of the esotheric games or whatever. I love casual and "hardcore" games, and I hate the division that people make between them, talking down about people who "just" play Bejewelled or "only" play video games or whatever. Gaming is gaming is gaming. And man, gamers are elitist bastards. If you're a professional gamer, then say "I'm a professional gamer". To me, that's the only important distinction. I'm all for using it more often, to include more variety of gamers. Now, if you want to make a distinction using a new word (I often see "hardcore" used) as describing the different levels of player in your example, then I'm all for it. Unfortunately, it'll still keep the elitism there, but at least the simplest word (gamer) won't be the deciding term. |
| #15pluisjenMar 11, 2011 18:17:18 | While I agree all gamers should be considered equal, I'll still refuse to call something like "farmville" a game. |
| #16KillerGMMar 11, 2011 18:48:27 | While I agree all gamers should be considered equal, I'll still refuse to call something like "farmville" a game. I play Farmville. You should be my neighbor! :D |
| #17pluisjenMar 11, 2011 18:52:45 | Blegh, I'm bothered enough by the fact that I have to play that crap for my work, I'm not going to waste my free time on it as well. |
| #18jesse.two.coinsMar 14, 2011 7:00:45 | Blegh, I'm bothered enough by the fact that I have to play that crap for my work, I'm not going to waste my free time on it as well. ugh, farmville. but yes ima professional gamer. I'm still a gamer though, and I'm a gamer cuz I'm better than most people. Thats how I got to be professional. |
| #19pluisjenMar 14, 2011 7:05:11 | You don't get to be a gamer because you're better then most people. Especially considering you are probably only better then most people in one or two games. |
| #20jesse.two.coinsMar 14, 2011 7:15:12 | You don't get to be a gamer because you're better then most people. Especially considering you are probably only better then most people in one or two games. nope I could probably play just about any game and whip a huge majority of the players |
| #21pluisjenMar 14, 2011 7:27:05 | Either you're talking about a specific subset of games, competing with people who just play the game to relax and don't practice speficially to win or "huge majority of the players" includes people who've never played, or you're some kind of prodigy. How's your Go? Chess? Soccer? Rugby? Checkers? Badminton? Skiing? Bridge? Just to mention a few games that have a large player-base with lots of professionals that you would be hard pressed to beat easily. |
| #22jesse.two.coinsMar 14, 2011 7:42:34 | So does that line work to pick up women? if only Either you're talking about a specific subset of games, competing with people who just play the game to relax and don't practice speficially to win or "huge majority of the players" includes people who've never played, or you're some kind of prodigy. I meant video games, which we were discussing, however my go game is pretty sick, chess I'm verrrry hard to beat, soccer....kinda dumb but I'm alright at it, rugby idk I've never played but I'm a pretty big guy I'de prolly be alright, skiing I live in florida so ya got me there, and bridge I thought only old people play that? |
| #23pluisjenMar 14, 2011 7:46:34 | I used to play bridge, so not only old people. Mostly, though. Video Games are also a specific subset of games. I'll buy that you can beat "many" people in video-games, considering the huge difference between someone who "plays video games" and someone who is "good at video games". I can probably beat most people at most video games myself; it's not that big a feat. You just need to have a lot of feeling for games in general and excellent hand-eye-coördination. It only gets hard once you take on people who are an expert in the game of their choice, but those are generally a fairly low number, so "beating many" should be quite doable. |
| #24jesse.two.coinsMar 14, 2011 7:48:44 | I used to play bridge, so not only old people. Mostly, though. ok? so we agree lol you coulda just said that |
| #25pluisjenMar 14, 2011 7:55:25 | We agree on the basic concept. I'm just considering it to be a fairly mediocre thing, while you're saying it like it's something to be proud of. It's like a strongman saying "I can lift more weight then the average human". Well duh. That's what you do, of course you can. If you want to be proud of something, you should at least be able to lift more weight then the average strongman. It gets impressive when you can beat pro's in their given game in just about any game. Being able to beat random people who just play for 20 minutes a day in just about any game isn't an achievment, it's a requirement if you want to be a pro. |
| #26jesse.two.coinsMar 14, 2011 8:03:01 | We agree on the basic concept. I'm just considering it to be a fairly mediocre thing, while you're saying it like it's something to be proud of. I do beat pro's thats what makes me pro, I beat team fear at last years tournament here, fear mojo is stuck up. |
| #27pluisjenMar 14, 2011 12:01:44 | Actually, technically earning enough money to sustain yourself on playing games is what makes you a pro. But that's beside the point. You beat one supposed pro team at one game... that doesn't mean you're any good at many other games. It just means you're probably very good at a specific game, but that doesn't mean you should get stuck-up and call yourself awesome in any game you play. |
| #28jesse.two.coinsMar 14, 2011 12:06:11 | Actually, technically earning enough money to sustain yourself on playing games is what makes you a pro. But that's beside the point. one example is what I provided, would you like more? I do make money when I play btw, every friiiiidayyyyyyyyyyyy (usually) |
| #29pluisjenMar 14, 2011 12:26:49 | You still have a job, so you're not a pro yet. Also, you need a lot of examples to really lend weight to your claim that you're good at all games. And in different fields, too. |
| #30jesse.two.coinsMar 14, 2011 12:40:27 | You still have a job, so you're not a pro yet. Also, you need a lot of examples to really lend weight to your claim that you're good at all games. And in different fields, too. you're right I agree |