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#1
EscherEnigma
Apr 13, 2011 23:37:11 ... so apparently some basketball player named Kobe Bryant got mad at a referee and called him a "****ing ****"1. Apparently the NBA or something has fined the guy $100,000.

Naturally the guy has already done the usual "I'm not a bigot, no, really!" thing, complete with the usual lack of "I'm sorry, that was out of line, I shouldn't have said that." Is a genuine sorry3 that hard?

On the other hand, that seems a bit out-of-hand. Fining a guy for losing his temper and swearing5 at a ref? I'm not a big sports fan, but that's not usual, is it?

Bah.
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1First word: present continuing tense of the word that, by urban legend2, once stood for "Fornication Under Consent of King". Second word, longer form of word that, in Britain, means cigarette, but here is a non-nice word for me.
2No idea if it's true or not.
3And none of that "I'm sorry if someone was offended" BS. That's just a coy way of saying "it's your fault for being a **** about it." which is about as close to "I'm sorry" as a donkey is to Uranus4.
4That is to say, you can find a connection if you want, but you have to mangle the intent and meaning to get there.
5And yes, I would consider that to be swearing at the ref, and not just for the first word.
#2
homicidal_squirrel
Apr 14, 2011 0:11:49 I read an article about that. The best part was his reason for using it while apologizing:

"What I said last night should not be taken literally. My actions were out of frustration during the heat of the game, period. The words expressed do NOT reflect my feelings towards the gay and lesbian communities and were NOT meant to offend anyone."

He meant it in the nice way. As to the $100K fine... compaired to the amount of money this guy makes, it's like fining you a dollar... if that. Besides, the player are representatives of their respective teams as well as the sport in general. They know there is a certain image they have to keep up1 when they sign their contracts.

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1 It includes making the player wear business suits during certain times.
#3
Dark_Stryke
Apr 14, 2011 1:21:13
I just wish we had some sort of insult we could throw at someone without insulting some fringe of society.

It's simple. Just make up something. The person knows they should be insulted by your tone, but just can't figure out why. It adds confusion to the frustration and rage.

... You snardly quarf weebl.
#4
pluisjen
Apr 14, 2011 1:38:24 Meh I think the professional sports world could do with some more sportsmanship. If this is the only way to get it; so be it.
#5
hawk52
Apr 14, 2011 3:03:53
As to the $100K fine... compaired to the amount of money this guy makes, it's like fining you a dollar... if that.

That is a bit of an exaggeration it is .3% of his annual income. If I remember correctly, EE had stated that he earns like 15,000 a year so it would be more like $48.

I understand this is still a relatively small percentage but it always bugged me in the football season when players would get fined tens of thousands of dollars and people would always say how that was nothing to them. For a man who make $2,000,000 a year to get fine $50,000 is still enough to hurt especially if it happens frequently.
#6
Jharii
Apr 14, 2011 6:12:15
At the same time you lose your tempter when doing sports. It is part of being competittive. These are human beings.

Wow. A hint of compassion and understanding. I am impressed.

And I agree. Saying something stupid in the heat of battle or in an argument... people do that all the time. It does not justify it, however.

But to answer your question, EE. Yes, the fine is actually very typical. Professional athletes have a layer of professionalism that they are required to adhere to. They sign a contract to conduct themselves in a professional manner as to be an exemplary representative of the league and team.

By the way, Kobe likely makes as much in endorsements as he does in contract, probably more. He lost the equivalent of maybe a $20 bill. The difference is, Kobe losing 100k is likely less impactful to him than your average person losing 20 bucks, particulary when they are reaching for that $20 while paying for that handful of groceries.
#7
homicidal_squirrel
Apr 14, 2011 6:20:35
As to the $100K fine... compaired to the amount of money this guy makes, it's like fining you a dollar... if that.

That is a bit of an exaggeration it is .3% of his annual income. If I remember correctly, EE had stated that he earns like 15,000 a year so it would be more like $48.

I understand this is still a relatively small percentage but it always bugged me in the football season when players would get fined tens of thousands of dollars and people would always say how that was nothing to them. For a man who make $2,000,000 a year to get fine $50,000 is still enough to hurt especially if it happens frequently.

That's if you are only counting the money he gets payed by the Lakers. I don't think you are taking into account the money he gets paid by the variou companies he works with to promote their products.

#8
grehnhewe
Apr 14, 2011 7:46:18 Similar yet different thing for Wayne Rooney of Man U last week. He was banned next two English games.

www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/apr/04/...

I think bans hurt more than fines for multi-million dollar athletes.
#9
zombie_babies
Apr 14, 2011 12:06:56
Similar yet different thing for Wayne Rooney of Man U last week. He was banned next two English games.

www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/apr/04/...

I think bans hurt more than fines for multi-million dollar athletes.

Yeah, if it's anything like US sports missing a game means missing a check. In our football, that means missing a 16th of your salary. Kind of a big deal.

The fine for Kobe was a little high, I think (just saying as compared to typical fines - not passing judgement) but not unexpected. The NBA especially takes decorum seriously. Er, at least the appearance of it. They have a friggin' dress code, after all. They also take serious issue with player or coach interaction with the refs. You cannot question the refs' ability even though it's often questionable.
#10
boraxe
Apr 14, 2011 14:28:12 With all the great insults and put-downs available to an English speaker resorting to homophobic or ethnic slurs is just plain lazy. He should be fined $100,000 for his lack of creativity alone.
#11
hawk52
Apr 14, 2011 14:36:51
As to the $100K fine... compaired to the amount of money this guy makes, it's like fining you a dollar... if that.

That is a bit of an exaggeration it is .3% of his annual income. If I remember correctly, EE had stated that he earns like 15,000 a year so it would be more like $48.

I understand this is still a relatively small percentage but it always bugged me in the football season when players would get fined tens of thousands of dollars and people would always say how that was nothing to them. For a man who make $2,000,000 a year to get fine $50,000 is still enough to hurt especially if it happens frequently.

That's if you are only counting the money he gets payed by the Lakers. I don't think you are taking into account the money he gets paid by the variou companies he works with to promote their products.

This was his annual income from Forbes magazine. They didn't specify if all of his earnings were included but from his contract with the Lakers he is making around 18 million this year.
#12
Jharii
Apr 14, 2011 15:21:20 You are way under... and this is from Forbes:

Kobe Bryant signed a three-year, $83.5 million extension in April with the Los Angeles Lakers that will make him the highest-paid player in the NBA. He will be only the second player in NBA history with a $30 million salary (Michael Jordan in the late '90s was the first). His salary this past year was $23 million.

That is his salary alone. His endorsements will be at least that amount.

Here's another source which references his earnings. The most interesting thing is that just in salary alone, he earns over $371,000 for a single game.
Last April, legendary NBA-er Kobe Bryant signed a three-year, $83.5 million extension on his contract with the LA Lakers, which meant he would be paid $108 million over four years, with $30.5 million due for the 2013-14 NBA season alone.
In 2013, Bryant will earn $371,951 per game, not including incentives or bonuses – and he will play at least 82 games. “That’s a nice chunk of change,” said BonafideSports.com website owner Hugh Lewis. “Right now he’s at the top of his game, and nobody on the court can touch him salary-wise.”

Bryant is the highest-paid NBA player this season. The second highest-paid, Orlando’s Rashard Lewis, will earn $20.5 million. With the sole exception of Michael Jordan (who earned $33.1 million in 1998), no NBA player has ever earned a fatter salary than Bryant in a single year.

For Bryant, it gets even better. By the time it’s all said and done, Bryant, who joined the Lakers in a trade in 1996, will have been paid $280 million in salary alone.

Furthermore, Forbes estimated that Bryant’s net worth was $140 million – and that was in 2009. He’s almost certainly worth more today. The sources of his wealth: basketball and endorsements.

Bryant’s total take is expected to hit $50 million this year when you factor in endorsements, according to Forbes. LeBron James’s take home? About $40 million in salary and endorsements. This of course means Bryant, not James, is king of the NBA.

In 2013 Bryant will take home 50% more than most of the league’s other top players. Some sports enthusiasts say that as great as he is, he’s not worth that kind of money, adding that the very best players aren’t even among the top 20 highest-paid, including LeBron James. With Bryant’s aging, beat-up body, including injuries to his finger and knee, could the naysayers be right?

#13
Idolis
Apr 14, 2011 22:01:49
Nah, you need something that will get the person mad. I can understand why the british familiar term for smokes might get some neanderthals mad, but it also gets other people mad.

We need something people are familiar with, like troll, but that would mean something to peole who aren't infront of a computer. Animals come to mind.

Pig is already taken. Any negative animals suggestions?

I would offer maggot but people might think you said the other word and get offended.

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#1 EscherEnigma Apr 13, 2011 23:37:11	... so apparently some basketball player named Kobe Bryant got mad at a referee and called him a "**ing "1. Apparently the NBA or something has fined the guy $100,000. Naturally the guy has already done the usual "I'm not a bigot, no, really!" thing, complete with the usual lack of "I'm sorry, that was out of line, I shouldn't have said that." Is a genuine sorry3 that hard? On the other hand, that seems a bit out-of-hand. Fining a guy for losing his temper and swearing5 at a ref? I'm not a big sports fan, but that's not usual, is it? Bah. ________ 1First word: present continuing tense of the word that, by urban legend2, once stood for "Fornication Under Consent of King". Second word, longer form of word that, in Britain, means cigarette, but here is a non-nice word for me. 2No idea if it's true or not. 3And none of that "I'm sorry if someone was offended" BS. That's just a coy way of saying "it's your fault for being a ** about it." which is about as close to "I'm sorry" as a donkey is to Uranus4. 4That is to say, you can find a connection if you want, but you have to mangle the intent and meaning to get there. 5And yes, I would consider that to be swearing at the ref, and not just for the first word.
#2 homicidal_squirrel Apr 14, 2011 0:11:49	I read an article about that. The best part was his reason for using it while apologizing: "What I said last night should not be taken literally. My actions were out of frustration during the heat of the game, period. The words expressed do NOT reflect my feelings towards the gay and lesbian communities and were NOT meant to offend anyone." He meant it in the nice way. As to the $100K fine... compaired to the amount of money this guy makes, it's like fining you a dollar... if that. Besides, the player are representatives of their respective teams as well as the sport in general. They know there is a certain image they have to keep up1 when they sign their contracts. _________________________________________________________________________________ 1 It includes making the player wear business suits during certain times.
#3 Dark_Stryke Apr 14, 2011 1:21:13	I just wish we had some sort of insult we could throw at someone without insulting some fringe of society. It's simple. Just make up something. The person knows they should be insulted by your tone, but just can't figure out why. It adds confusion to the frustration and rage. ... You snardly quarf weebl.
#4 pluisjen Apr 14, 2011 1:38:24	Meh I think the professional sports world could do with some more sportsmanship. If this is the only way to get it; so be it.
#5 hawk52 Apr 14, 2011 3:03:53	As to the $100K fine... compaired to the amount of money this guy makes, it's like fining you a dollar... if that. That is a bit of an exaggeration it is .3% of his annual income. If I remember correctly, EE had stated that he earns like 15,000 a year so it would be more like $48. I understand this is still a relatively small percentage but it always bugged me in the football season when players would get fined tens of thousands of dollars and people would always say how that was nothing to them. For a man who make $2,000,000 a year to get fine $50,000 is still enough to hurt especially if it happens frequently.
#6 Jharii Apr 14, 2011 6:12:15	At the same time you lose your tempter when doing sports. It is part of being competittive. These are human beings. Wow. A hint of compassion and understanding. I am impressed. And I agree. Saying something stupid in the heat of battle or in an argument... people do that all the time. It does not justify it, however. But to answer your question, EE. Yes, the fine is actually very typical. Professional athletes have a layer of professionalism that they are required to adhere to. They sign a contract to conduct themselves in a professional manner as to be an exemplary representative of the league and team. By the way, Kobe likely makes as much in endorsements as he does in contract, probably more. He lost the equivalent of maybe a $20 bill. The difference is, Kobe losing 100k is likely less impactful to him than your average person losing 20 bucks, particulary when they are reaching for that $20 while paying for that handful of groceries.
#7 homicidal_squirrel Apr 14, 2011 6:20:35	As to the $100K fine... compaired to the amount of money this guy makes, it's like fining you a dollar... if that. That is a bit of an exaggeration it is .3% of his annual income. If I remember correctly, EE had stated that he earns like 15,000 a year so it would be more like $48. I understand this is still a relatively small percentage but it always bugged me in the football season when players would get fined tens of thousands of dollars and people would always say how that was nothing to them. For a man who make $2,000,000 a year to get fine $50,000 is still enough to hurt especially if it happens frequently. That's if you are only counting the money he gets payed by the Lakers. I don't think you are taking into account the money he gets paid by the variou companies he works with to promote their products.
#8 grehnhewe Apr 14, 2011 7:46:18	Similar yet different thing for Wayne Rooney of Man U last week. He was banned next two English games. www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/apr/04/... I think bans hurt more than fines for multi-million dollar athletes.
#9 zombie_babies Apr 14, 2011 12:06:56	Similar yet different thing for Wayne Rooney of Man U last week. He was banned next two English games. www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/apr/04/... I think bans hurt more than fines for multi-million dollar athletes. Yeah, if it's anything like US sports missing a game means missing a check. In our football, that means missing a 16th of your salary. Kind of a big deal. The fine for Kobe was a little high, I think (just saying as compared to typical fines - not passing judgement) but not unexpected. The NBA especially takes decorum seriously. Er, at least the appearance of it. They have a friggin' dress code, after all. They also take serious issue with player or coach interaction with the refs. You cannot question the refs' ability even though it's often questionable.
#10 boraxe Apr 14, 2011 14:28:12	With all the great insults and put-downs available to an English speaker resorting to homophobic or ethnic slurs is just plain lazy. He should be fined $100,000 for his lack of creativity alone.
#11 hawk52 Apr 14, 2011 14:36:51	As to the $100K fine... compaired to the amount of money this guy makes, it's like fining you a dollar... if that. That is a bit of an exaggeration it is .3% of his annual income. If I remember correctly, EE had stated that he earns like 15,000 a year so it would be more like $48. I understand this is still a relatively small percentage but it always bugged me in the football season when players would get fined tens of thousands of dollars and people would always say how that was nothing to them. For a man who make $2,000,000 a year to get fine $50,000 is still enough to hurt especially if it happens frequently. That's if you are only counting the money he gets payed by the Lakers. I don't think you are taking into account the money he gets paid by the variou companies he works with to promote their products. This was his annual income from Forbes magazine. They didn't specify if all of his earnings were included but from his contract with the Lakers he is making around 18 million this year.
#12 Jharii Apr 14, 2011 15:21:20	You are way under... and this is from Forbes: Kobe Bryant signed a three-year, $83.5 million extension in April with the Los Angeles Lakers that will make him the highest-paid player in the NBA. He will be only the second player in NBA history with a $30 million salary (Michael Jordan in the late '90s was the first). His salary this past year was $23 million. That is his salary alone. His endorsements will be at least that amount. Here's another source which references his earnings. The most interesting thing is that just in salary alone, he earns over $371,000 for a single game. Last April, legendary NBA-er Kobe Bryant signed a three-year, $83.5 million extension on his contract with the LA Lakers, which meant he would be paid $108 million over four years, with $30.5 million due for the 2013-14 NBA season alone. In 2013, Bryant will earn $371,951 per game, not including incentives or bonuses – and he will play at least 82 games. “That’s a nice chunk of change,” said BonafideSports.com website owner Hugh Lewis. “Right now he’s at the top of his game, and nobody on the court can touch him salary-wise.” Bryant is the highest-paid NBA player this season. The second highest-paid, Orlando’s Rashard Lewis, will earn $20.5 million. With the sole exception of Michael Jordan (who earned $33.1 million in 1998), no NBA player has ever earned a fatter salary than Bryant in a single year. For Bryant, it gets even better. By the time it’s all said and done, Bryant, who joined the Lakers in a trade in 1996, will have been paid $280 million in salary alone. Furthermore, Forbes estimated that Bryant’s net worth was $140 million – and that was in 2009. He’s almost certainly worth more today. The sources of his wealth: basketball and endorsements. Bryant’s total take is expected to hit $50 million this year when you factor in endorsements, according to Forbes. LeBron James’s take home? About $40 million in salary and endorsements. This of course means Bryant, not James, is king of the NBA. In 2013 Bryant will take home 50% more than most of the league’s other top players. Some sports enthusiasts say that as great as he is, he’s not worth that kind of money, adding that the very best players aren’t even among the top 20 highest-paid, including LeBron James. With Bryant’s aging, beat-up body, including injuries to his finger and knee, could the naysayers be right?
#13 Idolis Apr 14, 2011 22:01:49	Nah, you need something that will get the person mad. I can understand why the british familiar term for smokes might get some neanderthals mad, but it also gets other people mad. We need something people are familiar with, like troll, but that would mean something to peole who aren't infront of a computer. Animals come to mind. Pig is already taken. Any negative animals suggestions? I would offer maggot but people might think you said the other word and get offended.