I figured we'd be too small in number, at least compared to things such as WoW and video games, to be a feasible target audience.
Your thoughts on this?
p.s. I hoping the show succeeds, though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3LYk2L9TXM
Hate to break it to you, but fantasy and sword-and-sorcery have been around since before D&D. The show looks like yet another in a long line of S&S parodies, this time a television show. The genre itself has been lampooned and parodied in everything from comic books to novels to low-budget pictures. Even fantasy shows like Xena and Hercules, to which this also bears a resemblance (not to mention that awful Conan show that was on for a few minutes around that same time), often tended to parody themselves, or to decline in quality to the point where they seemed to be doing so.
This looks like nothing more than the comments usually hurled at the screen during an episode of MST3K, dressed up cheaply like a Gamers movie might be, and pasted onto your television screen for all to see.
I’m sure that nerdy gamer things will get mentioned from time to time. But I doubt gaming is the crux of the show.
I just saw a different trailer on Comedy Central for the show. The main character even uses the term Tumble. It was after his ex-ish ( the "slutty" female character) did some back flips past some enemies, in the process having hew skirt/cloth fall down (as she was upside down). I believe he said something on the lines of "If you have to tumble, at least wear something else!". Yeah, I have a feeling it somewhat inspired by D&D...
Again, hate to break it to you, but the word tumble existed before D&D. We used to take an entire class called tumbling in junior high.
Again, probably can not escape a gamer reference in a modern Sword & Sorcery parody, but I really, really doubt it was meant to appeal only to us. Stephen Colbert gets a big laugh from me when he references a magic missile on air, but only a small laugh from the rest of his audience. He gets most of his laughs from things everybody recognizes, just like this show will.
If it gets any at all. Doesn't seem remarkably funny, to be honest. I wish it did, being a fan of fantasy parodies.
I figured we'd be too small in number, at least compared to things such as WoW and video games, to be a feasible target audience.
In a situation like this targeting the D&D audience also targets the World of Warcraft audience (and vice versa). For all intents and purposes we are all part of the same giant group of people who like fantasy. And to that end the movie targets fans of Everquest, Munchkin, Tolkien, Conan the Barbarian, Warhammer, etc.
At the NYC Comicon (the footage is online), Chris Hardwick specifically asked how much of the show is influenced by D&D, and they weren't necessarily saying it wasn't.
I also wouldn't be surprised if Stephen Colbert has his hands in this one, either as a writer, consultant, or otherwise. Because, as he says (referring to poker), "If it's anything like D&D, I'll be up to my baldric in +1 scimitars before you can say Cure Light Wounds!"
I was really excited about watching it until my girlfriend pointed out that "Krod" is just "dork" spelled backwards.
I've never even heard of the show, but I have to admit, as soon as I saw this thread's title that's the first thing I noticed. I doubt it's a coincidence.
I was really excited about watching it until my girlfriend pointed out that "Krod" is just "dork" spelled backwards. Now I don't know if it will be as funny just for that fact. Some of the previews look a little funny, though.
If you think about it, also, his last name is Nude-Man spelled backwards phonetically. I have no idea what that means.
If you think about it, also, his last name is Nude-Man spelled backwards phonetically. I have no idea what that means.
Actually, it would be Nude-Nam.
It reminds me of the Department of Redundancy Department, and Tonight I'm Gonna Rock You Tonight.
Actually, it would be Nude-Nam.
Yeah, you're right. But that doesn't have NEAR the silly implications of Nude-Man. Oh, well.
Yeah, you're right. But that doesn't have NEAR the silly implications of Nude-Man. Oh, well.
Sure it does. Nude-Man is just a single naked man. Nude-Nam is an entire naked country! :D
I doubt we'll get "I'm no racist or anything, but I hate it when orcs come over hear and take all our jobs" from a griffin-back taxi service driver.
I doubt we'll get "I'm no racist or anything, but I hate it when orcs come over hear and take all our jobs" from a griffin-back taxi service driver.
If that ever happens, I wouldn't ever be able to look at reality the same.
I'm looking forward to it.
When was it Colbert mentioned magic missile and the +1 scimitars? I seem to have missed those... ah well.
He mentioned the +1 scimitars when he was going to interview a poker pro (might have been Annie Duke?). If I can find it on youtube, I'll post it later.
I also like "Flaming Sword of Fire."
It reminds me of the Department of Redundancy Department, and Tonight I'm Gonna Rock You Tonight.
I was more reminded of terms such as Sorcelation, Witchalock and Lord of the God-Kings - failed attempt at epicness. ;)
I expect that it will be bad. Very bad.
But I'm going to give it a chance at the beginning.
I think it looks horrible in great way. Knight's Tale was horrible for its anachronisms, but it's a fun movie if you just suspend your disbelief and go along with it knowingly. I think Krod Mandoon fits the same bill. The comedy used in the dialog and situations is more akin to something you'd see in slapstick comedy and/or primetime sitcoms. It's horrible if you want a serious sword and sorcery television show, but it's great for a Comedy Central series that's expected to be, well, comedic.
I agree. Sometimes we gamers take historical accuracy too seriously. I mean, its a comedy after all. For me the bottom line is, is it funny and does it hold my interest. Frankly, I would rather have something that is a little anachronistic. Hey it worked for Xena.
Hate to tell you but D&D players, at least the active ones, are not a large enough audience to get a nationally syndicated show. However the D&D nerds, plus the Xena/Hercules nerds, plus the Lord of the Rings nerds, and the Warcraft nerds, is a large enough audience to garner that sort of show.
From what I can tell the show looks like more of a Xena parody than anything else. Not a full fledges spoof, but more of a Terry Pratchett or Douglas Adams sort of humorous satire. Not meant to target a certain show or game or specific thing in particular, but more the entire genre. Sort of like Austin Powers but without the stupid product placement.
It could be funny but it will have to be well written.
That is why I love Firefly so.
As a general rule I enjoy a healthy dose of comedy with my adventure. Stops it from taking itself too seriously.
That is why I love Firefly so.
Wash: “Psychic though? That sounds like something out of science fiction.”
Zoe: “Honey, we live on a spaceship."
:D
As a general rule I enjoy a healthy dose of comedy with my adventure. Stops it from taking itself too seriously.
That is why I love Firefly so.
Hmm. I think Firefly is pretty serious. At least the issues it deals with are.
They are definitely making fun of D&D, but not in an obscure way, so other people will get what they are talking about.
Half the time I'm watching TV, it's Comedy Central, so I knew as soon as I saw the previews that it'd be something I might want to look into. Sure, it may completely suck, but it might also be totally awesome. :D
They are definitely making fun of D&D, but not in an obscure way, so other people will get what they are talking about.
How do you figure that?
I noticed it but didn't think it was humorous.
Boo.
Wash: “Psychic though? That sounds like something out of science fiction.”
Zoe: “Honey, we live on a spaceship."
Wash: "So?"
Wash does not Metagame :D
I noticed it but didn't think it was humorous.
Just admit you didn't notice it. We won't think less of you.
Just admit you didn't notice it. We won't think less of you.
What?Just because I don't find something funny it must mean I didn't get it or notice it? Really?
Are you trying to be funny cuz it ain't working.
We have already established funny doesn't work on you.
who doesn't laugh at puns.
Because puns aren't funny 99.9% of the time.
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Because if you're having a 100% serious D&D campaign you're doing it wrong.
Thoughts?
I found it surprisingly humorous. There are some definite comedic elements stylized after Python but the all around style was changing ever so slightly throughout that it never got too stale. Take the sword losing aspect, only appears once, which they said will be a running gag, used once, not bad. That and I really can see me writing a campaign based off this and just make it completely silly.
To me it looks as if the show could have been written off a campaign. I guess not everyone has games like mine.
To me it looks as if the show could have been written off a campaign. I guess not everyone has games like mine.
I watched it and this is 100% correct. Too many jokes could have taken place in any number of games I've played in. I laughed my ass off when he said his full name was Krodford (some letter) Mandoon. Krodford? Fantastic.
*****
Krodford J. Mandoon.
*****
J, eh? I like it.
Wash: "So?"
Wash does not Metagame :D
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And that's why he died.
"You were here two weeks! And it's co-ed"
YES! Haha, that was hilarious.
Also, Krod is sexy with his shirt off... :D
It really has potential. It's too early to tell if it really will be good, but the main cast has some good things going for it. Krod was good, Dongalore was great, and I hope to see more of Barnabus.
Even the action sequences were better than I would have expected from a Comedy Central show.
I can picture the scene now:
Zezelrik: "I take total defense."
DM: "So, you're hiding behind the tapestry? Yeah, we'll go with that."
I think someone is hoping for a raccoon festival of their own.
I chuckled a few times while watching it. I don't think it was a funny as a regular session but at times it seemed close.
I tried to watch it last night, but I just couldn't do it. I'm glad to see that fantasy is making a bit of a comeback on tv, but Krod Mandoon has hit me with the change channel condition, and I don't think I'll ever make my save.
What about it bothers you so much? I was pleasantly surprised by it.
I chuckled a few times while watching it. I don't think it was a funny as a regular session but at times it seemed close.
DirtyFrank found it funny? Then there's a possibility I would as well. Too bad I have no cable. Maybe when/if it comes out on DVD I'll get as much of my old group together as is still in the state (stupid grad school...) together to watch a few episodes.
DirtyFrank found it funny? Then there's a possibility I would as well. Too bad I have no cable. Maybe when/if it comes out on DVD I'll get as much of my old group together as is still in the state (stupid grad school...) together to watch a few episodes.
There were some funny parts. The part I disliked the most was the commercials. The commercials seem to come at the worst times. That and they just seemed too often. There we a few times when a scene went on longer than it should have but it didn't happen often. The show looks like it has potential.
I watched this show Saturday, and I loved it. It has a slapstick-esque sort of ring to it, while not being cheesy. It may not be the best, but it is still better than that craptacular "film" they labeled as Dungeons and Dragons (although the sequel better).
THAT MOVIE DOES NOT EXIST! YOU UNDERSTAND ME?? IT DOES. NOT. EXIST!
THAT MOVIE DOES NOT EXIST! YOU UNDERSTAND ME?? IT DOES. NOT. EXIST!
LOL!
Wise Gay Mentor (Escher the Enigma)
Nympho Chick (Blood)
BBEG that was a ham (Emperor Dirty Frank vi Fourthtania)
Evil advisor (Echo)
Random Guy starts low level then gets a flaming sword (Idolis)
I lol'd when Bruce dressed up like a widow.
Even better, when they had the funeral, then asked what to do with the body. Genius, and it was well timed.
And the orc guy is Bane, friendly fire damage on!
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Too bad she got re-abducted. I was hoping she could be a regular character.
Minis: Who WOULDN'T want a figure of each of the main characters for game use. I'd love to drop a Dongalor as my BBEG at least one session.
T-Shirts: Damn, you'd be the talk of con with a shirt that says, "I was one of the ones."
Dice: A flaming sword as the one on most dice, and as the 20 on the d20.
The list goes on...
I disagree with the post that said there's only so much you can do with the show. It's a fantasy setting. The only limits are the imaginations of the writers.
Sadly, I don't think the show is going to last long. Personally, I love it, but shows like this rarely stay on American TV. The BBC will probably continue to produce it for UK TV (the humor is very British), but if it's not sports, a show about a hospital, or a stupid reality series, American audiences rarely watch it.
I hate those kinds of shows. The only ones I'm willing to watch is South Park, Mind of Mencia (if it's still going), The Colbert Report, The Daily Show, and Dexter. (the one about the Serial Killer that hunts other serial killers, not that stupid little kid show)
I haven't gotten the chance to see this yet, but I really want to.
Most Americans watch stupid shows like that cuz most Americans have crappy taste and are dumb.
Scrubs and The Office both lack a laugh track.
Tell me is there anything more insulting then a show that has to TELL you when to laugh? I hope laugh tracks go away from all shows forever.
This show at least gives us that dignity, and I think the humor is well done enough.
I also like it when that show focuses more on the humor instead of the drama. Fortunately, that's how it is most of the time.
(ER was a comedy, right)
ER also never had a laugh track. I guess good comedy really doesn't need it...
(ER was a comedy, right)
Human misery! BWAHAHAHAHA! Death and despair in a seemingly endless pile of reminders of your own mortality! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I have the same opinion with most people about how long this show will last, 2 - 3 seasons, and then it will become too redundant (just like its title "The Flaming Sword of Fire"). There are only so many time we can watch naughty Pagan festivals and hear crude sex jokes without wanting to see some real "action". So far in the 2 episodes, i've heard the phrase "well this is awkward" and if its going to be a running gag i'm going to get tired of it quick.
Let's hope it gets better and funnier, the plot seems interesting.
I mean, have they planned this show ahead, or did they make a pilot and run with it?
If they decided to turn this into a sitcom style show, then the show won't get into full swing for a few episodes. It just has to survive the first few episodes then start successfully building.
I thought Chancellor Dongalor was the funniest character, mainly due to his actor (Matt Lucas). That guy has great comedic timing.
But I think what I enjoyed most about the show is that it reminded me of my last D&D campaign. We weren't comedic writers or anything (obviously) but due to various factors, a lot of our adventures were not entirely serious, or downright silly.
They also didn't rerun the episodes after the 6th.
I suspect it might have been Screwed By The Network.