http://www.legendoftheseeker.com/
I'm guessing this is based off that movie that came out a while ago, http://www.seekthesigns.com/ but maybe not. I'm hoping not. Didn't see the movie, but I hear it got panned. Although if I read enough comments otherwise on here, I'll be willing to go check it out.
Anyways, it's fantasy, looks like it's being taken seriously, and might have decent production value. Hopefully the cast is decent and the acting a little less hammy than the infamous Xena or Hercules.
I'll be willing to check it out.
Huh. Well, unlike Xena and Hercules, the effects don't look completely crappy, and I do like the fact that apparently they filmed the show on movie film stock instead of the TV stuff. Gives it a more polished look I think.
I never heard of it but I took a look at this link...
I disagree with you in that I believe it was filmed the same way as Zena and Hercules. It looks, however, that the footage was recolored LOTR style. Just on gut feeling alone I would guess it could be on par with those two series, but I'm not sure that these days it would keep enough of a following for the money people. But, ya never know. ;)
This show is based on the Terry Goodkind Sword of Truth novels, beginning with Wizard's First Rule. The series will be syndicated, so the format will be more suited to that rather than just doing the novels in a linear manner. They settings, characters and situations will be more or less the same.
November 1, and all will be revealed. Some cool new photos below:
http://www.terrygoodkind.com/
I never heard of it but I took a look at this link...
I disagree with you in that I believe it was filmed the same way as Zena and Hercules. It looks, however, that the footage was recolored LOTR style. Just on gut feeling alone I would guess it could be on par with those two series, but I'm not sure that these days it would keep enough of a following for the money people. But, ya never know. ;)
I agree, it looks to be filmed in the same style as Xena and Hercules. Just recolored, as you said.
Legend of the Seeker - Facebook page
Also, on the official show site you can get the airdates, times, stations in your area.
Step one: Hear about problem.
Step two: Realize how awful the problem is and how difficult it will be to fix it.
Step three: Fix problem while creating a newer, more sinister problem.
Step four: Rejoice after fixing problem - until you realize there is a new (and worse) one. Goto step one.
We get it. Honestly. I got as far as book four or five before it felt like I was smashing my genitals in a car door. ;)
Step one: Hear about problem.
Step two: Realize how awful the problem is and how difficult it will be to fix it.
Step three: Fix problem while creating a newer, more sinister problem.
Step four: Rejoice after fixing problem - until you realize there is a new (and worse) one. Goto step one.
Still better than The Wheel of Time (at least the first one, that is all I could stomach):
Step 1) Rip off Tolkien
Step 2) Make your characters thicker than the starting line of the 2008 Olympic Thickies team.
Step 3) Give every single flipping character an epic destiny
Step 4) Blather about nothing - twice - for 900 pages
Step 5) Realize you have to end this bloated pig some time and rush the epic conclusion through in half-a-dozen pages.
As for the series, the link his not too bad, but I am still quite sceptic.
Still better than The Wheel of Time (at least the first one, that is all I could stomach):
Step 1) Rip off Tolkien
Step 2) Make your characters thicker than the starting line of the 2008 Olympic Thickies team.
Step 3) Give every single flipping character an epic destiny
Step 4) Blather about nothing - twice - for 900 pages
Step 5) Realize you have to end this bloated pig some time and rush the epic conclusion through in half-a-dozen pages.
I never even got that far. A couple of my friends read the series and always told me how I should get into it. I'd heard enough of their conversations to know better. ;) Every single person I know that read that series would complain - constantly - about how literally nothing would happen for 600 or so pages at a time. One book, I guess, was a thousand pages covering one day. The preceding book had left a few ends unraveled. This book did nothing to tie anything up. Why in god's name would I subject myself to that? It seems TWoT is paper crack. Because I can think of no other reason anyone would willingly buy book after book knowing full well that the odds were stacked against anything developing.
Anyway, Legend of the Seeker is on this weekend, tomorrow for most of us.
The 30 minute preview looked good. Don't know if anyone saw it.
The show is certain to move at a faster pace than the Goodkind novels (which I like, although I don't think I can read every last one.)
I hope the show is good. I'm ok if they change stuff from the book. I know, dramatic license...
So, I guess I avoid Wheel of Time then?
Dunno. It seems to be a love it or loathe it kind of thing. I'd rather remove my own intestines with a pasta fork than suffer even a single additional page of it, but not everyone feels as do I. I'd say give it a shot and decide for yourself. You just never know what's going to strike a chord.
Anyway, Legend of the Seeker is on this weekend, tomorrow for most of us.
The 30 minute preview looked good. Don't know if anyone saw it.
The show is certain to move at a faster pace than the Goodkind novels (which I like, although I don't think I can read every last one.)
I hope the show is good. I'm ok if they change stuff from the book. I know, dramatic license...
I dunno when we'll see it up in Canuckistan. Could be tomorrow, could be a year from now. Stupid frakking international licensing.
I dunno when we'll see it up in Canuckistan. Could be tomorrow, could be a year from now. Stupid frakking international licensing.
Can you not watch episodes online at abc.com? Usually they're pretty diligent about putting stuff out the next day.
Can you not watch episodes online at abc.com? Usually they're pretty diligent about putting stuff out the next day.
Most US sites block videos to Canada for precisely the same reason. Hell, I can't even go the official Penn & Teller's Bull**** site, let alone view videos on it.
-Joni
Most US sites block videos to Canada for precisely the same reason. Hell, I can't even go the official Penn & Teller's Bull**** site, let alone view videos on it.
Well a final thought, you can watch season 4 and 5 instantly if you have a netflix account. Although I can't claim to know if that would be blocked as well.
Likewise, you can watch a lot of new shows from major networks like nbc and abc on netflix. Still don't know if the new show will, however.
Still better than The Wheel of Time (at least the first one, that is all I could stomach):
Step 1) Rip off Tolkien And Frank Herbert
Step 2) Make your characters thicker than the starting line of the 2008 Olympic Thickies team.
Step 3) Give every single flipping character an epic destiny
Step 4) Blather about nothing - twice - for 900 pages
Step 5) Realize you have to end this bloated pig some time and rush the epic conclusion through in half-a-dozen pages.
Fixed that for you.
Fixed that for you.
So describing beduin tribes in a fantasy novel is ripping off Frank Herbert?
Sorry, I don't think so.
As for ripping off Tolkien, I don't really see any off the core concepts of Tolkien in the book.The only recurring thing is the concept of the journey of young farmers lead by a magician. Star Wars is a Tolkien rip off, if you think this is enough to warrant that: Luke (farmer) lead by Obi Wan Kenobi (equivalent of a wizard/mystic in the setting) on a journey that will free the galaxy.
There is many concepts in these books that are not considered in Tolkien: gender based magic, the human made dark lord, the exil and return off a powerful empire, the importance of the dream world, gun pounder, the concept of taveren (central point of the weaving of an era), etc...
Terry Goodkind is an awful, awful author. The first few books were ok, though, so if they stick with them it might be mediocre. But he's soooo damned predictable.
Step one: Hear about problem.
Step two: Realize how awful the problem is and how difficult it will be to fix it.
Step three: Fix problem while creating a newer, more sinister problem.
Step four: Rejoice after fixing problem - until you realize there is a new (and worse) one. Goto step one.
We get it. Honestly. I got as far as book four or five before it felt like I was smashing my genitals in a car door. ;)
You sir, get a cookie
I wonder if the show will be as filled-to-the brim with all his anti-communist, anti-religious, nationalist speeches as the books were.
Book 1 I liked. After a while, the trials and tribulations of Mr. Clueless Guy, blessed-at-birth-with-awesomeness, as he blunders his way into neverending success and being the single most important person in the history of ever, get somewhat dull.
The melodrama doesn't help.
"Oh look. I'm separated from my love."
"We are together again. Love is awesome."
"We are separated again. Boohoo."
"Let me ignore my responsibilities to go romping around the world and preach at poor people."
*Massive spoilers (and potential nausea) ahead*
Show
Richard the Seeker, born with an extra awesome gland. This guy is so awesome, that he is not only the first True Seeker in generations (which means he is an unbeatable sword master), but he is also the first War Wizard in 3000 years! "War Wizard", you say? That means he can explode mountains and cure cancer. Well, he could, if he could ever figure out how magic works. But his seeming inability to use his magic doesn’t stop him from literally DISINTIGRATING ENTIRE ARMIES WITH LIGHTNINGBOLTS! When the mood strikes him, of course.
Additionally, our man Richard is the hybrid combination of Shaft and a Barry White Greatest Hits Album, in that every remotely attractive female he encounters becomes fanatically devoted to him. Some even go so far as kidnapping him and forcing him to be their pretend-husband in distant lands. He even has an order of leather-clad nymphomaniac dominatrix women (with magical pain-sticks!) as his sworn bodyguards.
Oh, he is also the son of the Bad Guy from book one, as we not-so-dramatically discover. Unlike Mr. L Skywalker, Richard’s sword generally glows red.
Our glorious hero also becomes the leader of THE ENTIRE FREE WORLD in pretty much no time. Oh, yes, and the only way that the people of the free world get to remain free is to swear an oath of loyalty to him, DAILY, or they become the slaves of the evil Dream-Emperor.
Let’s just take a moment to appreciate this. This guy fights the evils of religious voodoo and communism with the words “Your life is your own! Live it!”
“Oh wait. In order for you to live your autonomous life, you just kinda need to swear everlasting devotion to me in a formal prayer every day. And you can’t just say it either, you have to mean it or the boogeyman will get you.”
Our Richard. He’s such a badass. The sun only rises because it wants to shine on him and him alone.
So awesome is Richard, that he liberated an entire city of millions of people from the evil grip of religion/communism, all by himself. How, you ask? Simple. He goes to live there… um, kinda gets a job driving a wagon around… sculpts a statue… and has THE ENTIRE CITY throw off the shackles of the former regime to swear loyalty to Richard’s cause!
“No guys, don’t be devoted to me. Be devoted to yourselves! And me. Mostly me, actually. Or the boogeyman will get you.”
This concludes our character summary of Richard the Seeker.
Oh, and he also kicks a little girl in the jaw this one time, but she totally deserved it. Truly a roflpwn moment.
Richard the Seeker, born with an extra awesome gland. This guy is so awesome, that he is not only the first True Seeker in generations (which means he is an unbeatable sword master), but he is also the first War Wizard in 3000 years! "War Wizard", you say? That means he can explode mountains and cure cancer. Well, he could, if he could ever figure out how magic works. But his seeming inability to use his magic doesn’t stop him from literally DISINTIGRATING ENTIRE ARMIES WITH LIGHTNINGBOLTS! When the mood strikes him, of course.
Additionally, our man Richard is the hybrid combination of Shaft and a Barry White Greatest Hits Album, in that every remotely attractive female he encounters becomes fanatically devoted to him. Some even go so far as kidnapping him and forcing him to be their pretend-husband in distant lands. He even has an order of leather-clad nymphomaniac dominatrix women (with magical pain-sticks!) as his sworn bodyguards.
Oh, he is also the son of the Bad Guy from book one, as we not-so-dramatically discover. Unlike Mr. L Skywalker, Richard’s sword generally glows red.
Our glorious hero also becomes the leader of THE ENTIRE FREE WORLD in pretty much no time. Oh, yes, and the only way that the people of the free world get to remain free is to swear an oath of loyalty to him, DAILY, or they become the slaves of the evil Dream-Emperor.
Let’s just take a moment to appreciate this. This guy fights the evils of religious voodoo and communism with the words “Your life is your own! Live it!”
“Oh wait. In order for you to live your autonomous life, you just kinda need to swear everlasting devotion to me in a formal prayer every day. And you can’t just say it either, you have to mean it or the boogeyman will get you.”
Our Richard. He’s such a badass. The sun only rises because it wants to shine on him and him alone.
So awesome is Richard, that he liberated an entire city of millions of people from the evil grip of religion/communism, all by himself. How, you ask? Simple. He goes to live there… um, kinda gets a job driving a wagon around… sculpts a statue… and has THE ENTIRE CITY throw off the shackles of the former regime to swear loyalty to Richard’s cause!
“No guys, don’t be devoted to me. Be devoted to yourselves! And me. Mostly me, actually. Or the boogeyman will get you.”
This concludes our character summary of Richard the Seeker.
Oh, and he also kicks a little girl in the jaw this one time, but she totally deserved it. Truly a roflpwn moment.
Maybe not nice, but understandable.
I think the switch from him being forgiving in first books(hence the bodyguard) to him, AND girlfriend, being all "No forgiveness of evil- ever!" was annoying.
Well a final thought, you can watch season 4 and 5 instantly if you have a netflix account. Although I can't claim to know if that would be blocked as well.
Likewise, you can watch a lot of new shows from major networks like nbc and abc on netflix. Still don't know if the new show will, however.
Netflix is also US-only.
I watched about 15 minutes of the second episode (they had the first two episodes on over the weekend. I missed the first one) and I had to change the channel. Maybe I'm a fanboy, but the sheer number and scale of the changes to the story completely destroyed the experience for me. Maybe it's a good show, if you haven't read the books, but if you've read them, and enjoyed them, I don't see how you could like the show.
Spoilers for the book and the show
Show
Ok, where to start.
1. Zedd did not create the boundary during the war with Panis Rhal; the boundary has been there for "centuries".
2. Richard did not memorize the Book of Counted Shadows as a child; Kahlan brought it with her across the boundary.
3. Darken Rahl has dark hair, not blond hair.
4. Darken Rahl cannot get across the boundary and there is no Scarlet the dragon (not 100% on this one)
5. The boundary is a solid wall and Darken Rahl's troop blast a hole in it with enchanted rocks shot from catapults.
6. Kahlan does not have crazy long hair; it’s barely past her shoulders.
7. There don’t seem to be any Quads.
8. Shar dies by blocking an arrow that is shot at Richard.
9. Richard’s brother Michael turns against him in the second episode; not near the end of the book (or in this case, series).
10. Darken Rahl has a journey book he uses to contact his troops and apparently needs to write with blood for the book to work (either that, or he just prefers blood as a writing medium).
11. It’s not the First Wizard’s job to name a Seeker, but Kahlan’s job as a Confessor.
12. I don’t think there will be any Mord Sith; why would there need to be, since Richard does not have the Book of Counted Shadows memorized. If there are Mord Sith, then I don’t expect Richard to be captured and tortured; again, he doesn’t have the Book of Counted Shadows memorized, why would they need to torture him?
There’s more, but I think that’s enough for now. I was immensely disappointed.
1. Zedd did not create the boundary during the war with Panis Rhal; the boundary has been there for "centuries".
2. Richard did not memorize the Book of Counted Shadows as a child; Kahlan brought it with her across the boundary.
3. Darken Rahl has dark hair, not blond hair.
4. Darken Rahl cannot get across the boundary and there is no Scarlet the dragon (not 100% on this one)
5. The boundary is a solid wall and Darken Rahl's troop blast a hole in it with enchanted rocks shot from catapults.
6. Kahlan does not have crazy long hair; it’s barely past her shoulders.
7. There don’t seem to be any Quads.
8. Shar dies by blocking an arrow that is shot at Richard.
9. Richard’s brother Michael turns against him in the second episode; not near the end of the book (or in this case, series).
10. Darken Rahl has a journey book he uses to contact his troops and apparently needs to write with blood for the book to work (either that, or he just prefers blood as a writing medium).
11. It’s not the First Wizard’s job to name a Seeker, but Kahlan’s job as a Confessor.
12. I don’t think there will be any Mord Sith; why would there need to be, since Richard does not have the Book of Counted Shadows memorized. If there are Mord Sith, then I don’t expect Richard to be captured and tortured; again, he doesn’t have the Book of Counted Shadows memorized, why would they need to torture him?
There’s more, but I think that’s enough for now. I was immensely disappointed.
The fight scenes are well done, the settings are great. The acting is so-so. (Kahlan is easily the best thing in it.)
It's something I can sit down with the family and have a good bit of Saturday night entertainment.
The acting is horrible, the effects are average for a TV show, and bullet-time is so overused that it gets already boring the second time they use it. And I didn't even have to read the books to notice that Richard is one big Mary Sue.
You and ZB hit the nail on the head for sure, author fantasy fulfillment to the utmost. I will surely not waste my time on a TV show based on some of the lamest, most derivitive fantasy(well the Eragon series wins that title, but still) I ever read.
WoT is okay, the first couple books are real slow and a bit of tolken stealing is evident, but the series improves considerably after.... Except for all the romantic dithering crap.
Nothing compares to the Malazan book of the Fallen series yet anyway (plus the author is Canadian for all of you canuckleheads out there).
I loved the first one (but it was the first real novel I read) and the second one was pretty decent. The third was ok and the fourth made me want to light the whole collection on fire. I stopped reading after that.
But still, how do they even expect to show different powers. A confessors touch was supposed to be like "silent thunder". How the flip do you film 'silent thunder'.
I think zombie babies and Umbral Knight nailed the series though. It's pretty bad.
Then again, reading all the changes, it only seems worse. I loved the quads! "Weeell Jimbo, whaddya recken we do? Seems whenever we send one after her she done touches him funny." "Cletus, I got me an idea, let's send four of 'em after her, that way when she naughty touches the one there'll be three t'overpower him, and then whup her butt good." They were great!
So, as a fan of the books, I enjoy the TV show for what it is, not what it isn't.
One of my friends keeps saying that that is what I need to do, but I simply cannot. I enjoyed the books and the show is just horrible. It seriously feels to me like someone read the books, hated them and then tried to find a way to ruin the story for anyone who actually like it, and thus made this tv show.
I find myself entertained by the two bandits fighting over a magic map, for some inexplicable reason, but then a lot of people disagree with my taste in movies, B-movies and old martial arts flicks (Invincible Armor has the best finale ever filmed, in my opinion).
Goodkind is a passable author when he doesn't let himself get preachy, which is something he apparently can't manage for more than about 3 pages these days. His books are full of ideological strawmen and lopsided personal rationalizations with faces. I spent several weeks scrubbing my brain after reading his stuff. If the show can avoid requiring that sort of thing, it's probably an improvement.
On my philosophy:
I get asked about this quite often, so I want to give readers a bit of insight. Please keep in mind that philosophy is a broad topic and not one that I can address in depth here. This is in no way complete; it is only intended to give a general sense.
Whether they realize it or not, everyone?s actions are driven by their philosophy. Few people fully understand what their own personal philosophy is or how they came by it. Whether or not we consciously realize it, we all need a means to make choices in life. Philosophy is that means. It colors our every thought, points our way in every action we take. It is our roadmap through life. If we don?t think clearly then we formulate a tattered philosophy composed of confused notions, misdirections, misconceptions, and meaningless bromides that will serve us poorly.
I am an Objectivist. Let me say right here, though, that my books are not intended to explain, advance, or promote Objectivism. My intent with my novels is simply to tell a good story. My Objectivist beliefs, however, guide what I think is a good story and how I tell it, just as every writer, whether they realize it or not, is guided by their philosophy. Because our outlook on life ? our philosophy ? governs our every action, it is essential to have a complete and integrated philosophy in order to live the fullest life possible.
Objectivism is the name Ayn Rand chose for her philosophy. (I believe that she was the most brilliant thinker since Aristotle because the totality of her philosophy is such a seamless coherent whole. I?ve always held views very much the same as hers, but studying her work helped me clarify my own thoughts on philosophy, link concepts I hadn?t fully connected, advanced my understanding of knowledge itself, and helped me grasp how we come to know what we know and how to verify the truth of such knowledge. When I first discovered Ayn Rand in her short novel Anthem, it powered my growing desire to be a novelist and my conviction that I could accomplish such a goal.)
Ayn Rand summed up Objectivism as follows:
?My philosophy, in essence, is the concept of man as a heroic being, with his own happiness as the moral purpose of his life, with productive achievement as his noblest activity, and reason as his only absolute.?
Understanding with clarity my own beliefs is essential for me in being able to write in the way I write, especially since I?m published in the fantasy genre. Objectivism could easily be seen by those who don?t understand it or who know very little about it as contrary to the very idea of a fantasy. It?s not, however, when fantasy is properly used to illustrate important human themes.
I believe that the world we see is real. I don?t hold with the Platonic view of reality. (Plato was an advocate of mysticism. According to Plato, the reality we see is an abstract, imperfect reflection of the real reality that exists in another dimension. These abstracts we see around us cause us to remember the real reality which we had known, before birth, in that other dimension. According to Plato our consciousness controls an illusion we call reality. This is because we are not individuals but all different reflections of the one being who exists in the other dimension, which Plato believed was the real reality. I know, Plato is nuts, but that?s Plato. The thing is, this belief, Primacy of Consciousness, which says that it is our consciousness that controls our reality is, in one fashion or another, the predominant belief today and is the basis for the typical magic in fantasy ? real things, or existents, are controlled by magic, which is directed by a person?s consciousness. Our consciousness thus directly shapes reality. We wish for rain, it rains. We wish for victory, we are delivered victory. We wish for a cure to illness, we become well. All controlled by our conscious desires and direction, each of us a mini-god.)
I don?t believe in magic. I?m Aristotelian. (While Aristotle was wrong in some other areas, one of his greatest achievements is as the father of the laws of logic ? our means of knowledge. All science is built on Aristotle?s foundational work in logic. Aristotle advocated reason, in polar contrast to Plato?s mysticism. This conflict of belief defines mankind?s ancient struggle to rise out of the savagery of mysticism. It is the Renaissance born out of the Dark Ages, reason out of chaos, freedom out of slavery. Aristotle understood that there is only one reality, which is the one we perceive. Reality, he said, exists as an objective absolute and it is the task of our consciousness to perceive reality, not to create it. Abstractions are man?s means of integrating what is perceived. We perceive what is. A is A, he said ? a thing is itself independent of what we may want it to be. In other words, nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed.)
Existence, Identity, and Consciousness are the three irreducible, primaries. These axiomatic concepts are implicit in all knowledge. They are the foundation of reason. Existence exists. Consciousness perceives those things that exist. These axioms can?t be avoided. They must be accepted even to attempt to argue that they don?t exist. For example, you can?t argue a position against consciousness and existence unless you implicitly accept that there is something that exists ? consciousness ? to perceive the assertion you are making.
Because of my philosophy, my books present magic as an existent ? something that exists ? just like everything else that exists. Because it exists it has its own identity, just as in the real world where all existents have identity and function according to that identity. A thing is what it is. Carpet can?t have a conversation with you. A chair will not become a cow, either spontaneously or by wishing it to. A thing is itself. I portray magic as having its own identity, just as a chair does, and it, too, must follow the laws of its identity. This is Primacy of Identity, rather than when magic is portrayed as ruled by consciousness, or Primacy of Consciousness.
Those who are ruled by Primacy of Consciousness believe that consciousness can affect reality, affect things that exist. Those who think this way are always at war with reality because reality will not conform to their wishes. Despite their best efforts, reality, stubbornly, refuses to submit to conscious direction. These people are never at peace with themselves because they are always at war with reality.
As an Objectivist I believe that our consciousness is our means of perceiving reality in order to understand it so we can know and use its laws to sustain our existence. It?s as simple as that. Wishing won?t overcome the laws of gravity. You have to build an airplane. Wishing will not keep you warm and dry in the rain. You have to do something ? but you must first choose to do something (free will), you must think. Our consciousness, our means of survival, cannot manipulate the nature of reality so we must learn the laws of identity to build a roof over our heads, make a plane fly, a boat float, or to make a ham sandwich. It?s an important distinction in my personal beliefs and in my books. This is the way in which my philosophy drives my work.
How philosophy drives every aspect of human endeavor is a rich but detailed topic. I don?t expect this short explanation to begin to cover it all, but I do hope that it gives clear insight into my beliefs, how important different philosophies are to me, and how fascinating a subject I hold it to be. In much the same way that various philosophies drive mankind?s actions, different beliefs drive all of my characters. To make characters real to readers, one must understand what makes them tick.
When you read about philosophy it?s crucially important to keep in mind that those who try to make it so complex as to be impenetrable to the ?lay mind? have a motive for clouding their views: those views won?t stand up to the light of reason. Philosophy, properly, is a roadmap to achieving values in order to live life to its fullest. A ham sandwich is a value because it keeps you alive, and a ham sandwich is not all that complicated. It?s a value. Values exist in reality ? values such as food, shelter, accomplishment, happiness.
Simple concepts, like food, are building blocks of more ever complex concepts, such as agriculture, agribusiness, business, business law, law, justice, etc. All true concepts, no matter how sophisticated, can be traced back to things that exist in reality. Thus, truth is inseparable from reality. Truth can be verified.
Our consciousness is capable of perceiving the nature of reality, achieving values, and using them to live to our fullest.
Some people use big words to try to make their beliefs sound scholarly and important or, worse, to hide the fact that their beliefs don?t make any sense. Don?t ever allow such people to bully you with their attempts to make philosophy impossibly complex, or intimidate you into accepting what they say. What this kind of person wants is for you to blindly believe them; they don?t want you to think for yourself.
Reason demands clarity. Whenever presenting your views it is essential to be clear about those beliefs and to frame them rationally. When confronted with reason, some of those without rational arguments or beliefs will frequently switch to personal attacks. Obscenities and insults are the product of an ineffectual mind, merely the crude tools of the enemies of reason and thus the enemies of life. You cannot reason with this type of person; they are incapable of reason. Clarity and reason are tools of truth. Use them to better your own life.
Now that you are armed, go out there into the world and be the best you can be. Rise up and live. You might even make yourself a nice ham sandwich. Maybe with mustard and mayo. That?s philosophy in action, values realized.
Copyright 2006 Terry Goodkind - All Rights Reserved
because the person writing it couldn't keep their ideology in their pants instead of whipping it out and slapping me across the face with it.
Personally I like it when people describe their dislike for something by using sexually explicit euphemisms.
I mean just leaving it at “he’s too preachy for my taste” or “I would rather read something less philosophical for fantasy books such as etc.. etc...”is I guess a little too difficult. Makes you wonder why they would ban Politics and Religion on this site. Don't you think?
Personally I like it when people describe their dislike for something by using sexually explicit euphemisms.
I mean just leaving it at “he’s too preachy for my taste” or “I would rather read something less philosophical for fantasy books such as etc.. etc...”is I guess a little too difficult. Makes you wonder why they would ban Politics and Religion on this site. Don't you think?
I think you just spanked him (see what I did there?).
Personally I like it when people describe their dislike for something by using sexually explicit euphemisms.
I mean just leaving it at “he’s too preachy for my taste” or “I would rather read something less philosophical for fantasy books such as etc.. etc...”is I guess a little too difficult. Makes you wonder why they would ban Politics and Religion on this site. Don't you think?
I'm glad you appreciated it. If you've got a problem with the way I phrased that, there's a report button on the post. You can take it up with CS.
I'm glad you appreciated it. If you've got a problem with the way I phrased that, there's a report button on the post. You can take it up with CS.
Just did thanks, and you have a nice day.
Personally I like it when people describe their dislike for something by using sexually explicit euphemisms.
I mean just leaving it at “he’s too preachy for my taste” or “I would rather read something less philosophical for fantasy books such as etc.. etc...”is I guess a little too difficult. Makes you wonder why they would ban Politics and Religion on this site. Don't you think?
Umm by it's very nature a euphemism can't be explicit.........
Also there is nothing wrong with what Batshido said, he didn't insult anyone (well maybe the author) and didn't use any badwords or language. The euphemism might be slightly obvious but it's certainly not anything to get worked up about. The reason politics got banned is because people threw fits over tiny little things like this(escalating the situation) which don't really merit it.
Umm by it's very nature a euphemism can't be explicit.........
Also there is nothing wrong with what Batshido said, he didn't insult anyone (well maybe the author) and didn't use any badwords or language. The euphemism might be slightly obvious but it's certainly not anything to get worked up about. The reason politics got banned is because people threw fits over tiny little things like this(escalating the situation) which don't really merit it.
Main Entry: eu·phe·mism
Pronunciation: \ˈyü-fə-ˌmi-zəm\
Function: noun
Etymology: Greek euphēmismos, from euphēmos auspicious, sounding good, from eu- + phēmē speech, from phanai to speak — more at ban
Date: circa 1681
: the substitution of an agreeable or inoffensive expression for one that may offend or suggest something unpleasant ; also : the expression so substituted
Is this the definition you were referring to?
Sexually: relating to sex, sexuality, or the sexual organs Explicit : Fully and clearly expressed; leaving nothing implied Euphemism: the substitution of an agreeable or inoffensive expression for one that may offend or suggest something unpleasant ; also : the expression so substituted
Sound like it fits to me and the reason politics got banned was the unsavory use of language and insults that resulted in people reporting posts. It was the tone that was set due to those types of posts that resulted in a ban. Can you prove to me otherwise?
Dune fans, Star Wars fans, Tolkien fans, Trek Fans after a while they come in the same flavours.
1. I read the book/watched the film, so what.
2. Fan, but not a freak.
3. Fan, total freak, person also makes you feel uncomfortable with their passion for the story/film/both to a point you would not want to be mistaken as a friend of theirs.
4. Anti Fan, person clearly doesn't like the subject, but weirdly enough can't stfu all the same about talking about that which they claim they hate.
I think of myself as a #2 with the books, but not so much so I am having trouble watching the series.
I think the books are great, but I have only read any of them once, and no I can't quote passages.
The shows are clearly NOT interested in being video translations of the books. To be honest, the first season has only a vague connection with Wizard's First Rule. So what. Bottom line is I have enjoyed the first 5 shows.
If you can't enjoy the shows I doubt anyone here really cares.
I personally considered the ending of the concluding novel to be among the most incredible things I have read in 46 years.
You might have become bored and wandered off before you got to that point.
Your loss as far as I am concerned.
Lots of changes, to be sure. Not that these weren't expected though. Both the producers and Terry Goodkind warned us there would be changes for the TV show. So, as a fan of the books, I enjoy the TV show for what it is, not what it isn't.
The fight scenes are well done, the settings are great. The acting is so-so. (Kahlan is easily the best thing in it.)
It's something I can sit down with the family and have a good bit of Saturday night entertainment.
How 'bout it! :D
It is so hard to find a nice fantasy show, something everyone can watch. Most regular TV nowadays has all this blood and doctors or cops.
I like the show so far. I've caught every episode. I never read the books, so this is all new to me.
Changes were probably necessary to turn the books into 1 hour chunks, if for no other reason.
There isn't a lot of fantasy on regular TV (I wouldn't know about cable) so the only thing new I have to compare it to is Crusoe. I didn't like the way the action was filmed in that one, it was a different camera shot every 8 seconds, from 5 different angles to make the action more interesting & intense, plus to draw out the fight.
To generalize about fantasy shows, most people aren't born on an action-farm, so the sword play gets better and better with every new season & episode. I much prefer the slow-mo shots on Seeker. It makes the Confessor character look much more like a nasty opponent.
I really like the wizard character, and I like that the Seeker is learning more about the world outside of where he grew up. I thought his solution with the book in the first episode was good. If it had been me playing that character, I would have been killed and the book fall into the bad guy's hands.
The Confessor character is really interesting, that class alone has a nice Cleric feel so there are so many plot lines to go with there. It has all the components of a really nice D&D party, Fighter, Cleric, Wizard. All they need is the occasional Thief character to round it out.
Double bonus for me is that the chief bad guy is a long haired hotty. Something about long haired bad boys always gets me interested. ;)
In thinking of legend of the seeker there is a smalle surge of fantasy based tv shows. Merlin comes to mind.
It was all so contrived, every element of the plot or characters seemed to be dragged from somewhere else. I know a lot of fantasy has certain primal elements - such as the boy (usually brought up on a farm I may add) who must realise his epic destiny - but Legend of the Seeker just seemed to dredge as many of them up as it could and chuck them in the pot.
I personally got sick of it when Richard's father (or adopted father) told him to go see the wizard guy - 'What that crazy old guy that lives on his own' - or words to those effects. May as well have called him Ben Kenobi.
Then, when he gets to the old guy's house, he gets given a lightsa...er...sword. When he realises the bad guys might be back at his home, he rushes off and surprise, surprise, his home is burning down. I was just expecting Imperial Stormtroopers to turn up.
This did not make me want to read the books at all. I think this may have further ruined the mass public's perception of fantasy. It certainly did mine.
Ah, well, the Sci Fi channel is running a fantasy special this month - hopefully there will be something better to watch. But then again, I've probably seen most of it.
*reading that one poster's summary of the book series makes want to see if the tv show is going to be as laughably bad*
you can go on the website and type in your zipcode and it will tell you the station and time
or you can simply watch the episodes on hulu
I'm a huge fan of fantasy things and i saw the trailer and thought i'd give it a go and i found it a fun show to just sit down to and smile about. It's mediocre as far as TV shows go but it's good as far as Fantasy TV shows go so i think i may make watching it a regular occurrence :D
-Kraik
And what fantasy or science fiction plot doesn't have duplicate if not similar themes to something already in print? Young boy goes off with crazy old man and young woman. That describes Star Wars, Eragon, King Arthur, and hundreds others.
Myself, I rather enjoy the shows, and both glad and disappointed that it is different than the book(s). I've read Wizard's First Rule and can see many things that would not convert over to an hour-long TV episode. The new scenes on the episodes give new views to the book. I have read that the author is heavily involved in the series, giving lots of feedback on the scripts.
Best yet, it isn't a vampire variant.
as for richard, hes just hotttt
And what fantasy or science fiction plot doesn't have duplicate if not similar themes to something already in print? Young boy goes off with crazy old man and young woman. That describes Star Wars, Eragon, King Arthur, and hundreds others.
A Song of Ice and Fire, Earthsea, Farseer, Dresden Files, ...
You want me to go on?