Exercise program: Wii Fit. (Got fat like a gamer, get thin like a gamer) 45 minutes a day of mixing strength exercises, Yoga, and Aerobics. UPDATED: Now going to Gym 3 times a week instead, between days I will do Wii fit aerobics.
First day of dieting: Mid December
First day I started Wii Fit for 30+ minutes a day: Feb 14
First day I had Weight measured: January 31
Starting Weight(1/31): 263.5
Current Weight(5/23): 238.8
I had been doing the diet since mid December and some minor exercising, but now I have decided to go the full deal. I have no idea how much I weighed before starting the diet in Mid December, but since I started the exercising in Wii fit and measuring as of this first post I am down 8 pounds (I should note that's during a dip since weight can go up or down 2 pounds or so)
Since another forum member, Idolis, decided to share his attempt at self improvement (in his case quitting smoking) I decided I would look for encouragement from you guys as well.
Eventually I realize I will have to switch to a more extensive exercise program to get into true GOOD shape, but for now I wish to really get myself out of real bad health into DECENT health.
Goal: 210 or under by July 17th 2009. (When I plan to attend Otakon)
Glad to see you're doing some physical stuff aswell as eating less. Exercise is much better for thining you down than any diet. If possbile, try walking places that you'd normal travel to by car/bus (trust me, this makes a BIG difference).
I'm not familiar with you're diet. 6 meals a day sounds a lot, but if it involves eating less than normal, then it's an improvement. As a biologist, I'd advise you to keep clear of anything like the Atkins diet: if you're on it short term, then you'll put weight back on when you finish, long term can screw up you're health.
Good luck mate.
Trust me it's well worth the results. You'll feel much better about yourself, look better, and have more energy.
It can actually make you a better gamer too! Reason being is that being in top physical condition gives you better endurance for gaming. It quickens the reflexes too and given the confidence boost that will come with looking better you'll be more confident while you game which usually helps your performance.
I am on a similar meal plan that you are on (mine's a 4 meal plan). I just want to lose a little weight. *around ten pounds is my goal, and more muscle definition. I'm already near the ideal weight for my height*
But keep going!
Diet: Body for Life (6 meals a day, smaller portions, one day a week I eat what I want)
Exercise program: Wii Fit. (Got fat like a gamer, get thin like a gamer) 30 minutes a day of mixing strength exercises, Yoga, and Aerobics.
WAY TO GO STEALTHMARMOT!!!! Congratulations!!!!
I am not familiar with that diet program, but usually the most important thing is reduction of overall calorie intake. It is really all about portions, just be smart with them and don't overeat, then exercise! exercise!! exercise!!! :D
I train for health and running, but there is a guy at the gym that I find really inspirational for those losing weight. He has lost about a hundred pounds in the last year. I was congratulating him on it a few weeks ago and he told me that he really just followed a couple of tips on his diet to do it.
2 glasses of water 15 minutes before every meal
Proper portions on the plate, puts food / spoon / fork down after taking each bite to slow the meal down.
Eats when he is hungry not at any scheduled meal time.
As far as exercise goes, Wii fit is a good start. Do little things differently too, stairs not elevator, don't always search for the closest parking spot. I think gym memberships are very important to health. There is good camaraderie you make other friends with a healthy lifestyle in mind and all the equipment you need is available.
But, anyway, if you are looking for inspiration...
Go Stealthmarmot go!
Drink That WATER!!!
Cut that FAT!!!
Deflate your weight!!!
Then you'll be dancin!!!!
What I can recommend for what it's worth:
-No food 1 hr before bed at all. It doesn't process correctly and adds weight.
-Watch your favorite shows and all, but do it from a stair master, bike, whatever. Any media to break up the monotony of exercise.
When I was in conditioning, I would just pick an LP from my stax and exercise till it was done, lift weights while watching PBS or a movie, whatever.
-Water, lots of it. No more soda, etc. Drop sugar from your coffee for something else and none in tea, use honey instead. Crystal light is good too.
-Clear out all the crap food of the house. Like drugs/alcohol, if it's in your envirionment, you want it moreso by association. Or, just don't buy them. The money you save you can treat yourself to other things; more gaming stuff, movies, etc.
-Swim. Cannot recommend this enough. Very good for shedding weight and one of the most efficient exercises you can do (resistance is all around you).
-Walk everywhere, bike w/ your iPod/zune/etc., stay busy, etc. The more sedentary you are, the more you'll want your vice.
Stop that exercising and healthy eating right now! If you're in shape, you'll be able to walk to the store instead of taking the car, and think of all the people and fresh air you'll be exposed to!
Pretty soon, the fat will be melting off, hot women will be hanging on your arms, you'll get a better job, and move out of your parents' basement. Don't do it!
I just weighed myself this morning before doing anything else (I always weigh myself that way) and my weight was 254.4, down 1.1 pounds from yesterday, so thats a total 9.1 pounds lost.
Of course I expect after today that will be back up again since today is my free day.
For those of you not familiar with the diet I am on, Body for Life, the diet actually says you HAVE to take a day off every week and not exercise and eat what you want as part of it's regiment.
Reason being 2 fold: 1. It KEEPS you on the diet, When you get one of those cravings you loathe so much and you hate the fact you cant eat it for a long time its discouraging, but if you only have to wait 6 days to get a piece of pie or a pizza you can do that. Its sort of regulated cheating so you dont ACTUALLY cheat.
2. It helps keep your metabolism up. If you reduce your caloric intake, eventually your body compensates and lowers your metabolism, however by increasing your caloric intake every week, you keep your body thinking you aren't starving. (point of note, thats the reason you eat the 3 snacks a day on the regular diet, cutting that much from your 3 meals. It keeps your metabolism up since you are digesting all day instead of 3 times a day.)
So today I get to eat like a pig without falling off the wagon :D
Tomorrow though, back on the low fat low sugar high protien high fiber way of life.
To bad I started playing WoW and gained 75 pounds.
Maybe I should start the program again myself.When she finally got serious about her diet we found out the best thing to do was make her food fun.
Get some of your friends in on your diet. Have them go with you to heath stores to munch your leafy greens and simple proteins with you. That way for you it's more fun and seems like less of a chore. It got to where we stopped going to pizza parlors and burger joints altogether. We made even more friends that we'd never have met as well. So it was a win all in all.
Keep in good spirits and be well!
Still did my exercises today, just made sure to avoid ones that used that muscle.
Sadly this meant no Wii fit boxing, which is probably my favorite exercise. Its probably the one I threw my shoulder out doing. Learned the hard way about proper stretching of your shoulders.
Hopefully by tomorrow I'll be able to use it, if not the next day.
Will be weighing myself when I get up in the morning. If you are confused when looking at the posting time, I work the night shift at my job. I wake up at 2:30 PM and I go to sleep around 6 AM. I get normal amounts of sleep (between 7 and 9 hours depending on the day).
Hit my first snag. Right shoulder is hurting, and not like its worn out, I might have pulled it. Haven't let it stop me, but its been a few days and the pain is still there. Only thing I can do is stay off it.
Still did my exercises today, just made sure to avoid ones that used that muscle.
Sadly this meant no Wii fit boxing, which is probably my favorite exercise. Its probably the one I threw my shoulder out doing. Learned the hard way about proper stretching of your shoulders.
Hopefully by tomorrow I'll be able to use it, if not the next day.
Will be weighing myself when I get up in the morning. If you are confused when looking at the posting time, I work the night shift at my job. I wake up at 2:30 PM and I go to sleep around 6 AM. I get normal amounts of sleep (between 7 and 9 hours depending on the day).
Firstly, hail fellow graveyarder! Nightfolk are de kewlest!
Secondly, it definitely sucks that you hurt yourself, but it's awesome that you don't let it slow you down.
Do you like RPG's? If so, grab Dragon Quest: Swords. That game only requires one arm, your sword arm, and you'll still get some exercise. They will ask you which hand you use, so you can use your left and still have your aim dead on.
Then you can restart your boxing career after a little downtime. Just beware of ring rust! :D
Good night and good luck!
Oh in fact, drink nothing but water.
I really don't have anything to add to the advice you have already recieved. I just wanted you to know that I appreciated your posts on my thread and offer you the same kind of encouragement.
Keep going and may the fat slide of you like water on a duck's back.
Hit my first snag. Right shoulder is hurting, and not like its worn out, I might have pulled it. Haven't let it stop me, but its been a few days and the pain is still there. Only thing I can do is stay off it.
This isn't a snag! This is P-R-O-G-R-E-S-S!! Go Stealmarmot GO!
No pain, no gain! Pain is weakness leaving the body!
Don't overdue it, don't make the injury worse, but rejoice in your progress!
Keep potassium levels up bananas are good for that, but don't eat too many because they are kind of heavy as fruits go. That will help with muscular issues. Limit the movement in your shoulder. This is especially important when you are sleeping, I would suggest a sling if you can manage it to keep the shoulder immobile.
Congratulations StealthMarmot!!!!
GO GO GO!!!!
Boxxing (Boxing?) or Karate.
Boxxing (Boxing?) or Karate.
I don't box but I do work with a trainer on the Muay Thai bags and the speed bag. They are both fantastic workouts. I give them a strong personal recommendation, Stealthmarmot.
Do you like RPG's? If so, grab Dragon Quest: Swords. That game only requires one arm, your sword arm, and you'll still get some exercise. They will ask you which hand you use, so you can use your left and still have your aim dead on.
Well I'm right handed and that's the shoulder I threw out. Anyway I don't have that kind of money to throw around really.
As for learning boxing and that sort of thing, the problem is you have to realize that as a night shift person I cant go places during the weekdays, so any exercise I get would be from my own home. Hence why the Wii Fit was perfect.
As for learning boxing and that sort of thing, the problem is you have to realize that as a night shift person I cant go places during the weekdays, so any exercise I get would be from my own home.
Many gyms open early and trainers will meet at almost anytime, and they have classes at odd times too. My gym opens early and I have been working out on the floor with mine at 5am. I think some in the area have gone to 24 hours a day.
But the Wii fit is certainly a good start!!!
Go Stealthmarmot GO!!!
Slay the Fat!!!
Go Stealth Go!!!
Oh no, I'm turning into a cheerleader. AWW, who cares.
Keep it up Stealth. You go ____(fill in gender here)!!!
Exercise is what really works out everything more than just a diet! If you keep up the exercise ine every way, you boost your metabolism, feel better and burn off what you consume faster.
Diets are nice, but just doing those alone is rough. You get cravings all the time and seldom see results as fast as you actually want.
If you know any trainers or can afford a gym, I suggest that route. even a few minutes on a tread-mill or some easy weights can help with results fast!
that and my trick was switching to diet sodas....then cutting them out all together!
Keep it up Stealth. You go ____(fill in gender here)!!!
Huh you don't know? I'm ALL man!
Well.... at least 90% or so.
At any rate, I missed out on exercise yesterday, but today Ill be sure to try at least to get a half a days worth (going to exercise the areas I'm not aching horribly)
On the plus side I have finished all the exercises in Wii Fit at least once, and I remember from experience in strength exercising that it only aches the first couple of times you do it, then if you do it regularly there is no aching unless you actually overstrain yourself.
Work that WII!!!
...ummmm that didn't sound right....
You should get some disco music. Even if you don't know how to dance to it, you'll get plenty of exercise running out of earshot! :P
Buy DDR and a foot pad. Dance like there's no tommorrow.
How's the shoulder, dude?
Better. Doesn't hurt anymore. Glad I took enough time to let it heal.
I recommend dancing as well.
Buy DDR and a foot pad. Dance like there's no tommorrow.
DDR teaches dancing like Soul Calibur teaches swordplay.
Updated weight: 254.4 as of this day. 1.1 pounds lower than my lowest, total 10.2 pounds lost since January 31.
Keep it up Stealth.
DDR teaches dancing like Soul Calibur teaches swordplay.
Updated weight: 254.4 as of this day. 1.1 pounds lower than my lowest, total 10.2 pounds lost since January 31.
So go do some real dancing, it is FUN! I love it! And there is nothing like a confident guy that goes dancing.
Congrats on the weight loss StealthMarmot!!
Work that Wii!!!
:angelhideWork that Wii!!!
I surely will keep working my Wii! Sure its hard work, but afterwards I sure feel good. Of course I need a shower afterwards cause I smell so bad from.... why is everyone laughing when I talk about how hard and well I handle my Wii?
I surely will keep working my Wii! Sure its hard work, but afterwards I sure feel good. Of course I need a shower afterwards cause I smell so bad from.... why is everyone laughing when I talk about how hard and well I handle my Wii?
Because it's not OK for us guys to talk about our Wii's. Heck, we get looked down upon just taking them out in public. CAN'T A MAN HAVE SOME FUN WITH HIS WII FROM TIME-TO-TIME?!?!?!
Just thought I'd post some smilies of encouragement. It seemed like the cool thing to do. Lets pretend like I don't care about the weight loss. I don't wanna hurt my forum cred because I decided to be kind or be bit of a softy. Lets just keep this moment of encouragement on the down low. ;)
Doesn't snoo snoo burn Calories?
Ya, and it also breaks hips.
Just thought I'd post some smilies of encouragement. It seemed like the cool thing to do. Lets pretend like I don't care about the weight loss. I don't wanna hurt my forum cred because I decided to be kind or be bit of a softy. Lets just keep this moment of encouragement on the down low. ;)
Unfortunately you were 1 post too late and this post ended up at the TOP of a page instead of the bottom of a page before a new one came up.
Sorry, you will now have to kick a puppy or 2 to maintain your reputation.
Update: I have found a new method of choosing which exercises I do in a given night. Simply asking myself "Which parts of my body do not feel like they are about to break off in protest to the exercise that is being forced upon it?"
After today I think all that will be left will be my left ear and a few teeth.
But another night of exercise is done and the bed looks incredibly inviting. (Yes I know that's what she said.)
http://www.obesityzapped.com
Go StealthMarmot Go!
Pound the Ground!
Pump those muscles!
Work that Wii!!!
Unfortunately you were 1 post too late and this post ended up at the TOP of a page instead of the bottom of a page before a new one came up.
Sorry, you will now have to kick a puppy or 2 to maintain your reputation.
I knew that my post would be the first on the second page before I posted. I guess it was a dumb idea. I don't think kicking puppies would be a good way for me to get my forum cred back but killing kittens might be OK. ;)
Update: I have found a new method of choosing which exercises I do in a given night. Simply asking myself "Which parts of my body do not feel like they are about to break off in protest to the exercise that is being forced upon it?"
"Hey, honey! I need to borrow you for a few minutes. Make that a half-hour. Actually, do you have an hour to spare, I'd like to get a full body workout tonight?" :D
Exercise and eating in moderation are the way to go. Cut the sugar, raise the metabolism and more important, have fun while you do it. Meet people, laugh, make friends, you only live once....:D
Go StealthMarmot Go!
Pound the Ground!
Pump those muscles!
Work that Wii!!!
I dub thee "Forum Cheerleader."
I dub thee "Forum Cheerleader."
Awww... thanks! :D
Ugh, I wish that my forum title wouldn't be the target for obvious spammers like "Jennifer" there.
Join date: March 2009. Yeah thats an obvious forum regular.
Doing something too improve health is always a good thing, but when dieting do not fall for the trap that so many people do. A lot of people assume all you have to do is cut down on calories, but that will only make sure that your metabolism will start to function less and less. This will eventually result in the body going into hibernation/survival mode. Storing fat for the time when there will be even less nourishment provided.
Problem with being fat is not eating too many calories for most people. The problem is that they eat a lot of calories which contain little to no real nutrition. Empty calories with sugars, salts, transfats and other junk. To loose weight you actually have to start eating more useful nutriants. Proper amount of protein through lean and red meats. Reducing the amount of carbohydrates and using the complex variants only in whole meat products. And of course get enough unsaturated fats like unsalted nuts, olives, avocado's, omega fats...60grams a day should be enough. You need that kind of fat too lose fat.
Eating more in combination with regular exercise will motivate the metabolism to work harder and start burning. So don't assume that 6 small meals work when several of those meals are crackers or a piece of fruit. You need proper meals.
Exercise, work out, have fun, and laugh.
Eat in moderation!!
Cut the sugar!!
Drink lots of water!!
As a Personal Trainer and Dietitian I have only the following to say...
Doing something too improve health is always a good thing, but when dieting do not fall for the trap that so many people do. A lot of people assume all you have to do is cut down on calories, but that will only make sure that your metabolism will start to function less and less. This will eventually result in the body going into hibernation/survival mode. Storing fat for the time when there will be even less nourishment provided.
Problem with being fat is not eating too many calories for most people. The problem is that they eat a lot of calories which contain little to no real nutrition. Empty calories with sugars, salts, transfats and other junk. To loose weight you actually have to start eating more useful nutriants. Proper amount of protein through lean and red meats. Reducing the amount of carbohydrates and using the complex variants only in whole meat products. And of course get enough unsaturated fats like unsalted nuts, olives, avocado's, omega fats...60grams a day should be enough. You need that kind of fat too lose fat.
Eating more in combination with regular exercise will motivate the metabolism to work harder and start burning. So don't assume that 6 small meals work when several of those meals are crackers or a piece of fruit. You need proper meals.
Actually I just use a piece of fruit or a Clif bar for my snacks (3 a day) and for my 3 actual meals I often use a lean cuisine meal. Works pretty well since it has a meat and a carb and usually a vegetable.
I really have been making a lot of use of chicken lately.... not a lot of red meat, which according to you I should indulge in a bit more.
As far as the fatty acids, I usually make sure I have a handful of unsalted peanuts or a handful of unsalted sunflower seeds.
My real problem is I have no freaking idea how to cook. I can make like 3 things, none of them appropriate for a diet.
Go StealthMarmot Go!
My real problem is I have no freaking idea how to cook. I can make like 3 things, none of them appropriate for a diet.
A man only needs to know how to cook 3 meals cuz if he's cooked for a woman 3 times then he's probably slept with her. ;)
I don't know if anybody else has mentioned this* but it's not weight loss that is important but body size. As in your waist line can be a better indicator of how you're doing than your loss of weight because you can, and probably will, reach a point where it may seem like you ain't losing any weight. At this point you should still be losing inches off the waist.
*This is because I deem most of what people write not worth reading.
251.3 pounds. New low.
big guy.
MEANIE!!!
*runs to his freezer and pulls out a bunch of Ice cream and eats it while crying*
(Not really)
So close to breaking that 250 threshold
We gotta stick together friend.
And look at Midnite's pic from her fanclub thread. That'll make you lose a few Calories. ;)
And oddly enough, remembering how many cute cosplaying girls will be at Otakon DOES in fact help me keep myself on the diet and exercise.
I do have to remember though that a lot of them will also cause me to go to jail. (I will be 26 when I go. Gods I feel old.)
Hoping I will make that 210 goal by July. Progress is happening, I know, but not as fast as I would like...
.....well that and my morning webcomics.
If you know what I mean.
I'm talking about sex.
It's called the eat whatever the hell you want, whenever you want, but watch your calitoric intake.:P
It doesn't work for everyone. There are some foods that are addictive, and trigger binge eating, so if there's foods you feel weak around, it's probably best to avoid them. For example I'd probably do much better on my diet if I stopped eating starches. Like big pots of pasta lol!
Granted I already don't eat fish. Some fish makes me swell/queezy as a reaction, and I really don't like the taste of fish anyway. I also avoid dairy to be sensitive to my girlfriend who's lactose intolerant..
So if I cutout starches man, I'd be eating like a caveman lol!
249.6 pounds.
If I wasn't currently at work, I would be dancing.
On that note, I did a bit of a switch up/upgrade. Instead of 15 minutes of cardio and 15 minutes of Yoga/Strength exercises after work, I went with doing strength/yoga for 15 minutes and cardio for 15 minutes before work, and after work I am doing another 15 minutes of cardio.
Waking up earlier and going to sleep earlier and fitting in 15 more minutes of exercise. Hopefully this will accelerate my weight loss a bit :D
Congrats on breakind down the wall to one of your goals. Keep it up. Go Stealth Go!!!
Awwww...
THE GOGGLES!! THEY DO NOTHING!!!
StealthMarmot, every time you gain a pound a kitten dies. Well, actually I kill the kittens but that's beside the point. You better keep losing weight or else you're going to have a lot of dead kittens on your conscience.
Stop tempting me to gain weight! And don't use killing kittens as a threatening tool! That's my schtick.
Stop tempting me to gain weight! And don't use killing kittens as a threatening tool! That's my schtick.
I was going type about kittens as a motivator before you mentioned it on the other thread but I never got around to it. If need be I can always switch to other animals.
Woah..... Minja stealing cookies from the cookie jar and staying up after bedtime?
That's so naughty...
Wait how did you snag pictures of a Minja? Are you like Peter Parker and Spiderman? :P
*Posts naughty pics of Minja*
That's likely to get StealthMarmot's engine runnin'. ;)
You are doing a great job that is awesome, fantastic.
Here is to breaking the 250 barrier!!!! Woo hoo!!!!
Looking forward to breaking the 200 barrier!!! Woo hoo!!!
I love staying up past my bedtime....
I love stealing cookies....
It's 5 pm here.
She's east coast. Probably not the somewhat cool part of the east coast that C_W lives but east coast non the less.
Should I go with pink or purple with lace?
Thong?
I'm not sure about the thong though. Maybe you should instead go with polka dot.
Sorry, I just won't post pictures, so you will have to use your imagination....
Is that encouraging?
(:P)No, we will just fantasize out C_W because she's cool enough to put pics up.
I can accept that.
Imagination is fun though....
HAIL TO THE BRUTAL ELITE!!!
Then again it can't be worse for you than Atkins.
I can accept that.
Imagination is fun though....
OK, we can play imagination. Here is how it's going to go. You imagine me imagining about you. I'll add more to the game later.
I personally didn't expect to go this long without a semi-off topic self plug.
OK, we can play imagination. Here is how it's going to go. You imagine me imagining about you. I'll add more to the game later.
So I imagine if she imagines you imagining her imagining you, then you imagine her imagining. That, I imagine, is not worth imagining. Imagine that.
About dirty? what a dirty dirty child.*Imagines dirty, dirty things.*
Can dirt get dirty? And if so, how could you tell?
with me when I'm in my birthday suit. ;)You know, there is a reason why Minja likes to
Cause after seeing you in your birthday suit she's got to cheer to stop from laughing?
:P
Cause after seeing you in your birthday suit she's got to cheer to stop from laughing?
:P
Nice attempt at a burn but no. If that were the case then she wouldn't be cheering.....in her birthday suit.
Yoga is beneficial, but it's not cardio and not a substitute for it. It's a great strength, balance, and flexibility trainer, but it won't make you lose weight. Keep the Yoga, but you need more cardio.
Personally, I only do about 20 minutes or so, because my fitness goals aren't weight-based. I want to stay at the weight I'm at now, and just adjust my body fat percentage as I go. The idea is to have 5-10% body fat at 300 pounds.
I used to be pretty obese and started putting on a lot of weight especially on my thighs and bottom in my late thirties. I started exercising as often as possible and also cut down on a lot of high calorie stuff. Unfortunately I hardly managed to lose much weight at all. I then recently read an article by a lady who claimed that she managed to lose nearly half of her weight using a particular weight loss supplement. I tried it out and it actually worked quite well. Within 4 months I managed to lose about 65 pounds. The results were pretty amazing and I feel so much healthier and energetic now. You can read more about the lady's article at
http://www.obesityzapped.com
Not to rain on anyone's parade but I typed that into google and this was like the 4th or 5th link down
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/acia-burn-c145056.html
Also if you are looking for a way to get healthy and note I stress the word healthy and not smaller/thinner/less weight, I recommend you look into a company call Usana Health Sciences. It's truly an amazing company that is dedicated to helping people get the proper nutrition required to maintain a healthy lifestyle.
I recommend taking a serious look at this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDBZTK9grYE&feature=PlayList&p=090C8AE6314072CD&index=1
Whether or not you choose to look into Usana is entirely up, either way I'm proud of you for trying to loose weight and maintain a healthy lifestyle.
I would recommend increasing your cardio to a minimum of 30 minutes. You don't get much benefit for any cardio less than 20 minutes, and you need at least 30 to burn any fat.
More cardio is definitely better, my goals aren't weight based either, they are endurance based, and to me 20 minutes of cardio is just a warm up. My trainer and I work on the mantra "It is not how fast you go, or how far you go, it is how long you go."
Yoga is beneficial, but it's not cardio and not a substitute for it. It's a great strength, balance, and flexibility trainer, but it won't make you lose weight. Keep the Yoga, but you need more cardio.
Yoga is great, adding any muscle to your frame is good for weight loss and increasing your metabolic rate. Not to mention the discipline, the focus and the willpower. Minute for minute it won't burn as many calories as a straight cardio workout does but it will certainly have a positive impact on your long term weight loss and health goals.
Cross train, do lots of things, take an interest in fitness, you body and health. Make friends, smile, do all kinds of sports, be physical, and you will be both happier and healthier. Most importantly don't just take any one person's advice, try all kinds of things and keep what works for you.
Then someday you will proudly be
in your birthday suit! :DMore cardio is definitely better, my goals aren't weight based either, they are endurance based, and to me 20 minutes of cardio is just a warm up. My trainer and I work on the mantra "It is not how fast you go, or how far you go, it is how long you go."
You're trainer has a tiny...
...I'm not going to finish that sentance.
You're trainer has a tiny...
...actually....
...he doesn't....long story........but it would be just like a man to think like that....
...actually....
....but it would be just like a man to think like that....
Ohh, so that's the "workouts" that you do. :D That's a good way of making exercising fun!
I see your trainer uses my idea to burn Calories. ;)
Again... just like a boy to think that way.
Girls do talk you know and word gets around... not that I have any personal knowledge...
Although when your trainer spots you while doing a dumbbell bench press...you kind of notice things....
I can squat....
That won't help me in the gym. That is why I have a trainer to spot, and yell at me to keep going...
...and to swing the punch pads at me....:D
Really Minja? It's like you don't try anymore.
"and yell at me to keep going..."
Really Minja? It's like you don't try anymore.
That is one of the reasons you use a trainer, to motivate you. I need motivation from time to time. :D
;)
That is one of the reasons you use a trainer, to motivate you. I need motivation from time to time. :D
Of course you do because he doesn't want you quitting on him mid exercise. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw_PMlyliek
It looks like you are saying pigknight tries to give people something.... not so benign.
Would I really do such a thing? ;)
*turns to the live studio audience*
Audience?
Audience: YES!
Would I really do such a thing? ;)
Quit stealin' mah bit, man. You know, the one I stole from a radio show. ;)
Anywhoo, who wants a HI-V?
I'll give you HI-V, but you have to lay down on the floor first.
Hey pal, I appreciate the enthusiasm an' all, but I'm the giver. Get it?
secunts.....
Misspelling? :D
We gotta so what's right regardless the cost. HI-V for everyone everywhere!
Misspelling? :D
Mabey. I suppose it does kind of look like a misspelling......
Mabey. I suppose it does kind of look like a misspelling......
That's what I was hoping to hear.
I got my exercise in, but I still feel all so guilty, and it was founded when I weighed myself as being a pound and a half up
I am glad that he chose sushi instead of going to some place like a burger palace or an ice cream parlor.
HI-V everyone! HI-V!
Yeeesh, talk about your wrong ways of losing weight.
I am literally between 17 and 18 str, going by the D&D 3E guidelines and how much I can lift over my head.
Well off to do my exercise. Have to do a half hour before bed. Think Ill do a little extra cardio tonight to make up for the extra bit I ate today...
I need to gain weight.
A rule of thumb is that you should lift weights until you puke or crap yourself. I'm not saying that you're a weakling or anything if you don't, but to get the best results you need to push yourself to the very edge.
Depending on the time of day, and the amount of water I am drinking and how much I exercise, I find my weight fluctuates by about two pounds in a day.
For that matter, my weight fluctuates between 170-180 (obviously not in a day, but over weeks)... so its like whats beings said... its over time that matters.
Depending on the time of day, and the amount of water I am drinking and how much I exercise, I find my weight fluctuates by about two pounds in a day.
I'm on a bit of a heavy swing at the moment. For months, I was around 155. Lately, I've been closer to 162. I worked out Tuesday and dropped 3lbs. Gained it back by Thurs. Worked out Thurs and lost 4. No idea where I am at now. Heh.
A rule of thumb is that you should lift weights until you puke or crap yourself. I'm not saying that you're a weakling or anything if you don't, but to get the best results you need to push yourself to the very edge.
This is terrible advice.
This is terrible advice.
Yeah, it really is. I am thinking it was meant to be sarcastic, but I'm not sure.
Seriously, injuring yourself won't help your physical shape. Quite the opposite, if you are injured you can't exercise, at least the area you injured.
Pushing yourself like that won't get you very far, since afterwords you feel awful and lose the motivation to exercise.
I can tell you you have to eat to gain weight. I suggest if you take up weightlifting and other exercise you carry some sort of food, like a protein bar, and eat it right after a workout. That's when your body craves nutrients the most.
This is terrible advice.
Agreed. Don't do that. Know your limits.
I have pushed myself really hard before while training and running in competition. I have dry heaved, I have accidentally leaked fluids without knowing it.
But I have never set out thinking, I am going to train until THIS happens and then I am done.
Also I made sure to take it easy for a while and back off after any of that stuff.
I would steer clear of any personal trainer that offered this as advice.
Go to a gym, ask around. See who the trainers are, let them know what you want to do and interview them. Also, ask for references and talk to their clients.
Wii fit is good, but in reality, it's sort of become a bit too easy for me to do for the most part. Some exercises still kick my arse though. Mainly, the cardio is way too easy. I'm not breaking a sweat with most of them.
I am pretty sure I am in significantly better shape at this point though. My best guess is I've lost between 20 and 25 pounds total (including the time before I was measuring)
Unfortunately, I don't know if I have the discipline to get myself up early enough for a gym (get off work at midnight and all, so before work is the only real option). It would help if I had a gym partner, but I'm not sure I know anyone who would be interested.
Yeah, it really is. I am thinking it was meant to be sarcastic, but I'm not sure.
I dunno, I used to wrestle in high school, and people would do terrible things to themselves to make weight.
You should try doing pushups. It is an excellent workout, and whenever you start gaining strength, you can begin doing different types of push ups to work different parts of the body. Make sure you do them in proper form though.
Proper form is very important for any workout.
I dunno, I used to wrestle in high school, and people would do terrible things to themselves to make weight.
You should try doing pushups. It is an excellent workout, and whenever you start gaining strength, you can begin doing different types of push ups to work different parts of the body. Make sure you do them in proper form though.
Proper form is very important for any workout.
Wii fit has the Push Up and Side Plank. Its one of the exercises I cringe at, but I do it pretty well at 20 reps and never lose form. I use a slightly altered hand position though because it is more comfortable. It uses different muscles, but I don't lose form so it works.
Wii fit does very well in helping with proper form, as it measures your center of balance and other things to make sure you do the exercises, using the Wiimote or the balance board, and your score often hinges on how well balanced you are.
A few exercises don't use the wiimote or balance board though, and they basically have to trust you to do them. They say words like "Very stable, well done" and I say "HOW WOULD YOU KNOW??"
Wii fit has the Push Up and Side Plank. Its one of the exercises I cringe at, but I do it pretty well at 20 reps and never lose form. I use a slightly altered hand position though because it is more comfortable. It uses different muscles, but I don't lose form so it works.
Wii fit does very well in helping with proper form, as it measures your center of balance and other things to make sure you do the exercises, using the Wiimote or the balance board, and your score often hinges on how well balanced you are.
A few exercises don't use the wiimote or balance board though, and they basically have to trust you to do them. They say words like "Very stable, well done" and I say "HOW WOULD YOU KNOW??"
I know nothing of the Wii Fit, but it sounds like it really helps. You might want to give the balancing excersises a try. About a year ago a trainer had me do some excercises that required a balancing board. I forget why I was suppose to excersise like that, but I do remember it was suppose to be helpful for other things.
I know nothing of the Wii Fit,
Let me break it down for you.
Stand on one leg.
Flail around while trying to keep your balance with a really awkward pose while a trainer wonders why your balance is shaky.
That's like, a third of the exercises.
Those exercises are actually generally healthier overall for a person because the human body was built around the idea of moving ones own weight around. They alsso lead to better body balance as any muscle that is already sufficiently strong won't get any stronger, whereas the ones that are not will catch up.
To increase your overall strength and body mass though, you would have to have weight thats not based on your body mass (dumbells, machines, etc.)
Me personally, I have a surplus bodymass, so I don't feel a need to do free weights at this point. I get the same type of stength build just by using my bodyweight.
This is terrible advice.
Every bodybuilder on the planet works out like that. Well, the steroid-using ones don't, because they don't have to.
Isometric, I believe, are exercises that use your own bodyweight as weight. When you don't weigh as much, they are significantly easier (try it with a 145 pound weight on your back and you will be doing in effect, what I do with a pushup)
Those exercises are actually generally healthier overall for a person because the human body was built around the idea of moving ones own weight around. They alsso lead to better body balance as any muscle that is already sufficiently strong won't get any stronger, whereas the ones that are not will catch up.
To increase your overall strength and body mass though, you would have to have weight thats not based on your body mass (dumbells, machines, etc.)
Me personally, I have a surplus bodymass, so I don't feel a need to do free weights at this point. I get the same type of stength build just by using my bodyweight.
Herschel Walker (college football people will know who I'm talking about, pro football people will more than likely) claimed he never really used weights, due to growing up so ridiculously poor. He just did exercises that involved his own weight over and over and over again. In an interview he said he still did something like 1,500 pushups, 2,500 situps, and ran 10 miles every day. May be why he didn't get fat after retiring unlike a lot of Pro football players.
Sadly my Krispy Kream diet isn't working.
Every bodybuilder on the planet works out like that. Well, the steroid-using ones don't, because they don't have to.
Bodybuilders are not healthy.
My cousin married a bodybuilder and said that if he didn't eat every like 2 hours or so, he would end up feeling faint and getting dizzy.
The bodybuilding body is essentially unnaturally big. It has more muscle than a person needs, and tends to have a lower bodyfat percentage than they should given the mass of muscle that they have. That is why they have to eat so much and so often.
What bodybuilders put themselves through is not in the least healthy, but responsible bodybuilders do their best to carefully watch themselves to make sure they don't overdo it and balance their other physical abilities (like endurance and cardio) because if they don't, they die a very early death, regardless of steroid use.
Just having muscle works your metabolism and your circulatory system, and the more of it you have, the harder they have to work. This is helpful when losing weight, since you have fat to burn, but once you drop below 5% bodyfat, you can really damage yourself by having too much muscle and not taking care of yourself properly.
Every bodybuilder on the planet works out like that. Well, the steroid-using ones don't, because they don't have to.
None of the bodybuilders I know at my gym work out like that. The interesting thing is after participating in this thread yesterday I approached a couple of them this morning in between their reps and asked them about the puking and crapping thing.
They chuckled and said that wasn't the way they trained. They said they had heard of that being a strategy once upon a time but that wasn't considered a viable training technique any longer. One did say that during a meet one time he knew someone that lost control of their bowels but that it wasn't planned and the person was quite embarrassed. I suspect that it wasn't actually a friend, but it was him, he just didn't want to admit that little tidbit to a girl in the gym.
I disagree with bodybuilders not being healthy statement. Some are some aren't, a lot of it depends on how you do it and to what extent you build.
@ Stealthmarmot, I strongly recommend a a gym. Hire a trainer and get some good professional advice catered to your needs. Even if you just buy 8 to 10 sessions or so to get a good feel of the gym, that will be very helpful.
How hot are you?
Minja you made a guy crap his pants retroactively?
How hot are you?
I did? I don't get it.
@ Stealthmarmot, I strongly recommend a a gym. Hire a trainer, if you can afford one, and get some good professional advice catered to your needs. Even if you just buy 8 to 10 sessions or so to get a good feel of the gym, that will be very helpful.
What she said + the fix.
Because of the distance from my home to the closest gym, it adds about 40 minutes to the amount of time I work out in which I'm doing nothing (15 minutes to drive there, 15 minutes back, 10 minutes misc. travel stuff). If I just use the gym, I actually exercise LESS than if I do it on my own, because of the added time and trouble. Add in that I'm having to pay for the added trouble... and yeah, I don't really care much for gyms.
I ride my bike, and do lots of weight free exercises (situps, pushups, squats, etc.) I find that this is much easier for me than paying to have access to a location that will for the most part just add time of trouble that I could just spend doing more exercise.
Gyms aren't for everyone.
That is true. I do a lot of working out in the gym, and I also run on the streets and sidewalks of the city. I also do weight free stuff at home, and I have a trampoline that I run on when I watch TV.
I also really enjoy the social aspect of my gym, it is a great way to meet people. But I agree Touchfuzzy, it isn't right for everyone.
Need to go to the bathroom? Run like hell.
Want a sammich? Run like bloody hell.
That is true. I do a lot of working out in the gym, and I also run on the streets and sidewalks of the city. I also do weight free stuff at home, and I have a trampoline that I run on when I watch TV.
I also really enjoy the social aspect of my gym, it is a great way to meet people. But I agree Touchfuzzy, it isn't right for everyone.
I would actually probably find a gym really useful if it was approximately 30 minutes away by bicycle... then I could bike there, do weight stuff, then bike back.
As it is, its too far away to feasibly go by any way but car :P
Diet: Body for Life (6 meals a day, smaller portions, one day a week I eat what I want)
Exercise program: Wii Fit. (Got fat like a gamer, get thin like a gamer) 30 minutes a day of mixing strength exercises, Yoga, and Aerobics.
First day of dieting: Mid December
First day I started Wii Fit for 30+ minutes a day: Feb 14
First day I had Weight measured: January 31
Starting Weight(1/31): 263.5
Current Weight(3/17): 250.7
I had been doing the diet since mid December and some minor exercising, but now I have decided to go the full deal. I have no idea how much I weighed before starting the diet in Mid December, but since I started the exercising in Wii fit and measuring as of this first post I am down 8 pounds (I should note that's during a dip since weight can go up or down 2 pounds or so)
Since another forum member, Idolis, decided to share his attempt at self improvement (in his case quitting smoking) I decided I would look for encouragement from you guys as well.
Eventually I realize I will have to switch to a more extensive exercise program to get into true GOOD shape, but for now I wish to really get myself out of real bad health into DECENT health.
Goal: 210 or under by July 17th 2009. (When I plan to attend Otakon)
Some helpful advice: don't even look at a scale. Focus on how you look and feel in the mirror. If you pack on some muscle, lose body fat; you may go up in weight; but a scale only says you gained weight. Use the mirror, and your own sense of how your body feels.
Wii fit is great; but the body needs variation. So you might want to try walking some nights. I recommend jump rope to anyone. People avoid it; but its fun, and a fast way to lose weight. Just get a jump rope and go at it for 3 minute rounds with a 30 second or one minute rest in between. Start out at 2 rounds and work your way up to more.
I also really enjoy the social aspect of my gym, it is a great way to meet people. But I agree Touchfuzzy, it isn't right for everyone.
Me personally, I find meeting new people to be overrated. But that is partly because I find most people to be jerks. I like to do a lot of my working out be myself. The less contact with others the better. But again, that is just me.
I also really enjoy the social aspect of my gym, it is a great way to meet people.
I do tech support. Know who I talk to all day? People. And they suck.
They really really suck.
I pretty much hate people at this point.
By the way, new low: 249.1 pounds.
Still losing weight, however slowly. As for the whole "Don't bother with the scale" idea, I don't just keep track of the scale, I also measure my waist. So far I am between 3 and 3.5 inches off my waist so far. The scale usually isn't a great source for healthiness, but in my case because I weigh so much at this point that weight loss is actually important. My body mass index is actually over 35, which is quite unhealthy. Once I am under 200 or so, then I will have to focus on more than just my weight, but if I don't get rid of this excess bodyweight, I actually put myself at risk for serious health problems like diabetes.
At any rate, until the fat is gone, you won't be able to see the muscle anyway. For the most part, I actually have pretty decent strength. Oddly enough, I also have very good flexibility, which is very surprising. I can keep my legs straight and touch my knuckles to the floor.
The real areas I need help in is cardiovascular endurance (especially with my lungs) and weight management.
I pretty much hate people at this point.
I hate people too. HI-V! ;)
But that shouldn't stop you! Harness that hatred, use it and come to the dark side *cough* I mean, channel it into a work out! :D
But that shouldn't stop you! Harness that hatred, use it and come to the dark side *cough* I mean, channel it into a work out! :D
I figured they were the same thing. I mean, didn't most Sith start as gym bullies?
Well, to be fair, people hate tech support too. :P
But that shouldn't stop you! Harness that hatred, use it and come to the dark side *cough* I mean, channel it into a work out! :D
I've only done tech support for friends and family... and seriously, even that makes me aggressive.
I could seriously see how that would make for a good workout (especially something like a punching bag). You should see how much damage I could do to a punching bag after talking to my wife's (then girlfriend) overly religious zealot father... (we get along more now... mostly because we learned that fighting was unproductive, and he wasn't going to get anywhere with it anyway.)
And yeah, I hate meeting new people too, dirtyfrank... I like individuals... but humans as a species are somewhat disappointing.
I'm a
ray of sunshine. AWESOME!!I assume a person sucks until they prove otherwise.
I assume a person sucks until they prove they suck.
I don't suck. I'm
I feel sorry for your husband then. :P
I feel sorry for your husband then. :P
I don't make it a habit to discuss my sexual activities with people on internet message boards, so you can safely assume I was not referring to any kind of sexual act.
Though I do feel sorry for him, too, but only because he's so far away.
I don't make it a habit to discuss my sexual activities with people on internet message boards, so you can safely assume I was not referring to any kind of sexual act.
Didn't think you did. I just like to actively misinterpret things for comedic effect. I guess it's called taking things out of context.
Go with what you know, right? :P
So... many "That's what she said" moments.... brain can't take it....
Glad to cause brain damage. :D
Women, they're like drugs. At first they're good as hell but they screw you over in the end. :P
Sometimes being screwed over isn't so bad.
Women, they're like drugs. At first they're good as hell but they screw you over in the end. :P
If you're lucky!!
Yeah. Yeah, that's it exactly.
Sometimes being screwed over isn't so bad.
I hope to one day get screwed over in a good way.
(Still reeling because the girl I've been dating for months has just told me that she had a boyfriend, and has had on for about two years. Very upset.)
I do tech support. Know who I talk to all day? People. And they suck.
They really really suck.
I pretty much hate people at this point.
By the way, new low: 249.1 pounds.
Still losing weight, however slowly. As for the whole "Don't bother with the scale" idea, I don't just keep track of the scale, I also measure my waist. So far I am between 3 and 3.5 inches off my waist so far. The scale usually isn't a great source for healthiness, but in my case because I weigh so much at this point that weight loss is actually important. My body mass index is actually over 35, which is quite unhealthy. Once I am under 200 or so, then I will have to focus on more than just my weight, but if I don't get rid of this excess bodyweight, I actually put myself at risk for serious health problems like diabetes.
At any rate, until the fat is gone, you won't be able to see the muscle anyway. For the most part, I actually have pretty decent strength. Oddly enough, I also have very good flexibility, which is very surprising. I can keep my legs straight and touch my knuckles to the floor.
The real areas I need help in is cardiovascular endurance (especially with my lungs) and weight management.
I don't know if anyone mentioned this yet, but you might want to talk to a doctor or dietrician about the healthiest methods, just to be on the safe side.
Also, continue the good work and drink lots of water
I do tech support. Know who I talk to all day? People. And they suck.
They really really suck.
I pretty much hate people at this point.
You just haven't met the right people! :D
We are out there you just have to come find us!
Wait. I am people, does that mean I suck too?
aww.... anyway....
Go Stealthmarmot Go!!!
You just haven't met the right people! :D
He must have some pretty bad luck to have only met bad people so far. Stealth is batting 000.
We are out there you just have to come find us!
It ain't that hard to find me. All ya have to do is sniff. Follow your nose as some would say. ;)
Wait. I am people, does that mean I suck too?
No, you are person.
Of course that doesn't mean that you don't suck. :P Does somebody need a friendly hug. I think somebody needs some cheering up. Yes, they do. Here have a
and a . aww.... anyway....
Go Stealthmarmot Go!!!
I endorse this message.
Wait. I am people, does that mean I suck too?
Only if we are lucky.
Erm...
:D
Here's a low-calorie wii breakfast.
Enjoy!
ummm... walked into that one didn't I? :embarrass
It's OK cuz StealthMarmot enjoyed it. :P
You do wii exercises, right?
Here's a low-calorie wii breakfast.
Enjoy!
Ceral pro 5000?
http://www.achewood.com/index.php?date=03202009
It's OK cuz StealthMarmot enjoyed it. :P
:angelhide
*Gets Minja to cheer naked*
He was helping me exercise by suggesting different forms of exercise. I mean I'm sure working somebody elses thighs has to be some form of exercise right?
When done right it is, I know it exhausts me....
Try push ups.
When done right it is, I know it exhausts me....
As any good exercise should.
Minja we don't care about your sex life, we need to help StealthMarmot.
Try push ups.
These two statement seem oddly contradictory don't you think?
These two statement seem oddly contradictory don't you think?
Then just do what ever helps you work
Try push ups.
Why does he need a bra (bro?)? Or did you mean those ice cream things. You know, those orange sherbet things. In either case, this advice won't help anyone lose weight.
Also, instead of eating at Mcdonalds eat at Subway, Wendy's or Hardees instead. They are all much healthier than Bugerking and Miccy Ds. (and taste better) Taco Bell is also healthier than Miccy Ds.
Grill your food instead of frying it. Not only in my opinion does grilling usually taste better but it's incredibly better for you.
Also instead of grabbing a second burger or something, get a salad instead. (be light on the dressing!)
I recommend a six inch sub sandwhich for lunch. One slice of turkey one of ham, some lettuce, tomato. You can put miracle whip on it, a slice of swiss, onions and just a dash of balsamic vinaigrette dressing on a deli hoagie roll. It's healthy and filling.
Also, instead of eating at Mcdonalds eat at Subway, Wendy's or Hardees instead. They are all much healthier than Bugerking and Miccy Ds. (and taste better) Taco Bell is also healthier than Miccy Ds.
Grill your food instead of frying it. Not only in my opinion does grilling usually taste better but it's incredibly better for you.
Also instead of grabbing a second burger or something, get a salad instead. (be light on the dressing!)
It's healthier and cheaper to make your own food.
And yes, sex can give a good workout (not saying you should do it casually though).
And yes, sex can give a good workout (not saying you should do it casually though).
If you can eat casually, you can bang casually. There's nothing wrong with casual sex as long as you're using protection. So sayeth ... somebody. ;)
And yes, sex can give a good workout (not saying you should do it casually though).
Just as one should watch what they eat, one should also watch what they bang. Other than that there is nothing wrong with casual eating or sex.
Just as one should watch what they eat, one should also watch what they bang. Other than that there is nothing wrong with casual eating or sex.
Yes, that's what I meant. Thank you for the clarification.
It lived but for a brief time before it was stomped into the ground by rampant abuse, and despite bing a dead horse, was beaten over and over.
Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
*puts a sign up that says "New joke wanted, apply within"*
*puts a sign up that says "New joke wanted, apply within"*
How far inside do you want us to apply the joke?
How far inside do you want us to apply the joke?
I'd say elbow deep at the least.
New joke, apply directly to the forehead.
New joke, apply directly to the forehead.
New joke, apply directly to the forehead.
New joke, apply directly to the forehead.
New joke, apply directly to the forehead.
New joke, apply directly to the forehead.
New joke, apply directly to the forehead.
New joke, apply directly to the forehead.
New joke, apply directly to the forehead.
New joke, apply directly to the forehead.
New joke, apply directly to the forehead.
New joke, apply directly to the forehead.
New joke, apply directly to the forehead.
New joke, apply directly to the forehead.
New joke, apply directly to the forehead.
New joke, apply directly to the forehead.
New joke, apply directly to the forehead.
New joke, apply directly to the forehead.
New joke, apply directly to the forehead.
New joke, apply directly to the forehead.
New joke, apply directly to the forehead.
New joke, apply directly to the forehead.
*Smacks Zombie_Babies on the forehead with a stamp, leaving a mark that says "New Joke"*
BAD TOUCH! I NEED AN ADULT!
I am an adult you dolt.
*snaps on rubber gloves*
Know what? I think I'll let her handle it. I hear she's got cold hands, too.
I am an adult you dolt.
No you are not you are a baby! Babies even! And a zombie! I'm not afraid of you! I ain't afraid of nuthin! There is no force in this world which could possibly scare m....
*snaps on rubber gloves*
I'll be good.
Have you never seen a woman with rubber gloves before?
You're safe 'till they reach for some sort of lube.
It's for when I dye my hair.
... what?
Have you never seen a woman with rubber gloves before?
Oh sure, but I have never seen KillerGM with gloves before. THAT scares me.
It's the blue hair.
Oh sure, but I have never seen KillerGM with gloves before. THAT scares me.
It's the blue hair.
Don't worry... being a gnome... she probably has small fingers.
You know what's funny? I actually have petroleum jelly and rubber gloves under my bathroom sink.
It's for when I dye my hair.
That's what she told her husband. Ohhh he got a big surprise. :P
:P
Maybe I'll take pics with some gloves on to really freak you out. :P
That's what she told her husband. Ohhh he got a big surprise. :P
Blue hair?
Maybe I'll take pics with some gloves on to really freak you out. :P
That mean you're actually going to take a pic that has a hand in it because all we've had so far is your face?
You're one to talk. All I've seen from you is your face. :P
You're one to talk. All I've seen from you is your face. :P
The sentence above has been proven false in another thread. I just wanted everyone to know.
Also, the cake is a lie.
The moist....delicious....cake....with......frosting......soooooo gooood.....
Please assume the partygoing submission position.
It wasn't false when I wrote it. At that point, all I had seen from him was his face. Then I saw the other pics, and I apologized. :P
Well maybe you'd see something other than my face if you would ogle me a bit. :P
Please assume the partygoing submission position.
*lies down half on the couch, half not, unconscious with a beer in hand and silly facepaint and a hat placed on me by someone else at the party with a bad sense of humor*
Well maybe you'd see something other than my face if you would ogle me a bit. :P
Well, apparently you get creeped out when I look at you, so how am I going to ogle you? :P
*lies down half on the couch, half not, unconscious with a beer in hand and silly facepaint and a hat placed on me by someone else at the party with a bad sense of humor*
Someone will be by shortly to collect you and take you to the party, where you will enjoy the cake.
Well, apparently you get creeped out when I look at you, so how am I going to ogle you? :P
I get creeped out when you stare into my eyes. Ya know you can look at any of my other features. I have other featured don't I? Don't I?
Someone will be by shortly to collect you and take you to the party, where you will enjoy the cake.
NO CAKE! On diet! Cannot digest high calorie sweet lies....
Someone will be by shortly to collect you and take you to the party, where you will enjoy the cake.
Is there anybody that is going to pick me up?
Is there anybody that is going to pick me up?
No, but if you want we will have someone perform a drive by ogling.
No, but if you want we will have someone perform a drive by ogling.
That would work. Who is going to do it? One person or a gaggle of people?
That would work. Who is going to do it? One person or a gaggle of people?
20 cute Japanese schoolgirls who will drive by and laugh adorably yet condescendingly.
I can wear gloves too? Can I join in?
Do you have your own gloves?
And did you finish your homework?
Do you have your own gloves?
yes!
And did you finish your homework?
ummm....
.... yes? :DParty wha? Where?
In your mouth? :D
Kind of like certs, altoids, and Vault all at the same time..... mmmmmm.... ;)
@Z_B: Are we talking about at home or at the Doctor's office? Is KGM a nurse or Dr. or something?
Well, the only time I've had it happen was at the doctor's office. I think that was the only time ...
In your mouth? :D
Kind of like certs, altoids, and Vault all at the same time..... mmmmmm.... ;)
I never get any fun. It always happens around me damnit!
Wow... does this mean I have tasted Minja? :D *sorry Minja not even I could resist making that joke*
Well, the only time I've had it happen was at the doctor's office. I think that was the only time ...
So KGM works at a Dr.'s office? That seems cool. Now we know of someone on these forums that can fix our oweezz.
And what is going in Micha's mouth?
Shhhh! Micha.....
Don't tell them, let them keep guessing.... ;)
Shhhh! Micha.....
Don't tell them, let them keep guessing.... ;)
Ya givin' him a Micha surprise or something? Is the Marmot going to do something Stealthy or something?
I won't tell them if you won't
Girls never tell.....
(except of course our friends, usually via text message only to have it shown by our friends to the people that weren't supposed to know in the first place, but I am not bitter or anything....
)Yeah... marmot doesn't act very stealthy does he?
Does his charismatic personality bring too much attention to him?
So KGM works at a Dr.'s office? That seems cool. Now we know of someone on these forums that can fix our oweezz.
It may have been her. I know for a fact it was a she nurse practitioner. It wasn't nearly as fun as you'd think, though. For reals.
It may have been her. I know for a fact it was a she nurse practitioner. It wasn't nearly as fun as you'd think, though. For reals.
Why would a woman become a Dr. or nurse to help guys when they can instead put them through torture? I think these gals like the control.
Why would a woman become a Dr. or nurse to help guys when they can instead put them through torture? I think these gals like the control.
Well, to be honest, that was one of the more humiliating moments of my life. It shouldn't have been, but it was. So I guess it was torture-esque in it's helpiness.
Well, to be honest, that was one of the more humiliating moments of my life. It shouldn't have been, but it was. So I guess it was torture-esque in it's helpiness.
Why do women always have to stick it to the man? *sigh*Does his charismatic personality bring too much attention to him?
Yes.
Well, to be honest, that was one of the more humiliating moments of my life. It shouldn't have been, but it was. So I guess it was torture-esque in it's helpiness.
Have you ever dove into a swimming pool in front of members of the opposite sex and lost your bikini top?
Have you ever dove into a swimming pool in front of members of the opposite sex and lost your bikini top?
Have you ever had someone put their hand up your rear in a doctor's office?
Have you ever dove into a swimming pool in front of members of the opposite sex and lost your bikini top?
Had that happen with my swimming trunks, dived in and off they came. At least the water wasn't cold. ;)
It would have only been embarrassing had the water been cold. :D
Girls never tell.....
(except of course our friends, usually via text message only to have it shown by our friends to the people that weren't supposed to know in the first place, but I am not bitter or anything....
It's okay.. see this is why I don't tell people anything! :D
***** envy.
Have you ever dove into a swimming pool in front of members of the opposite sex and lost your bikini top?
No. I have, however, jumped into a swimming pool while nude. With a couple other people. Guys and gals. And then we played nekkid swimmin' games (guys vs girls, of course) like shark where you swim with your eyes closed and try to avoid the "sharks". It was good to be a shark. ;) Oh! It was also at about 3am and we broke into the pool (it was outdoor, but fenced). And some old people watched from a safe distance. We had to keep real quiet a couple times when the cops drove by, too. Cuz we broke in. And we were nekkid. And drunk.
I've also had sex in front of people. So, I'm not usually bothered by that stuff. Just fingers where they don't belong. :P
Have you ever dove into a swimming pool in front of members of the opposite sex and lost your bikini top?
When I was a kid I'd probably freak out if my swimming trunks came off after diving into the water but now a days it wouldn't really bother me. Remember, what is embarrassing to one person isn't necessarily embarrassing to another.
Had that happen with my swimming trunks, dived in and off they came. At least the water wasn't cold. ;)
It would have only been embarrassing had the water been cold. :D
A lot of guys use the cold water excuse. ;)
Have you ever had someone put their hand up your rear in a doctor's office?
Rear. No. But can you say gynecological exam?
A lot of guys use the cold water excuse. ;)
It is a true one though. It's called shrinkage.
Fortunately I didn't have to worry about that during that instance. 90 degree water for the win. :D
Rear. No. But can you say gynecological exam?
I guess because it's similar though not the same. Remember, most guys never want anything near their rear especially not fingers, hands, other men, or doctors doing examinations. Even gay men will feel a bit embarrassed by said examination.
naked me, half nekkid Minjas,
and shrinkage. wow. I'm not sure if we should be proud or ashamed of this derailment.
I guess because it's similar though not the same. Remember, most guys never want anything near their rear especially not fingers, hands, other men, or doctors doing examinations. Even gay men will feel a bit embarrassed by said examination.
Is this to imply the opposite is true for girls and gynecological exams?
Wow we really derailed this thread... prostate exams,
naked me, half nekkid Minjas,
and shrinkage. wow. I'm not sure if we should be proud or ashamed of this derailment.
Proud
Wow we really derailed this thread... prostate exams,
naked me, half nekkid Minjas,
and shrinkage. wow. I'm not sure if we should be proud or ashamed of this derailment.
Actually, during this conversation I have returned from my morning run, showered, changed, brushed my teeth, done my hair and am getting ready to leave.
So at some point I was actually typing while dripping wet wrapped in a towel.
Just for clarification sake.... :D
And I am sure Stealthmarmot is still losing weight! Cause he is the bestest Stealthmarmot E-V-A-R!
Go Stealthmarmot GO!!!!
Is this to imply the opposite is true for girls and gynecological exams?
Nope, I understand being uncomfortable with having a stranger rooting around with such an area, but with guys they are uncomfortable with girlfriends even going to such a place. Are you always embarrassed or grossed out when you have sex with a boyfriend? Do you feel violated when doing such with said person? Most guys are not only uncomfortable with a stranger doing such but also with those they are closes to (including physical closeness) doing such.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that exercises while on this forum. Presently I'm waiting the 20 minutes or whatever before I eat, and figuring out what I'm going to wear. I'm thinkin one of my bad Hawaiian shirts and the obligatory blue jeans.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that excercizes while on this forum.
It can be challenging, but I am pretty good at multi-tasking.
It can be challenging, but I am pretty good at multi-tasking.
You must be
Or at least better at it than I am. *is doing curls at the moment*
So, what should be for lunch... beeftips in gravy, mac&cheese, one of my delicious sub sandwhiches, or something else?
Yeah... marmot doesn't act very stealthy does he?
I should explain. I found a Genie who allowed me one wish. Well being the Family Guy fan that I am, I wished for my own theme music. What I didn't clarify was that I wanted to be the only one who could hear it.
Do you have any idea how hard it is to sneak up on people when you have the James Bond theme blaring everywhere you walk?
Have you ever dove into a swimming pool in front of members of the opposite sex and lost your bikini top?
Yes.
Of course the real embarassment was why I was wearing a 2 piece in the first place.
*looks at thread title* Since when was this thread about.....OH YEAH! That!
So I havent lost any weight this week, in fact I appear to be up a pound or so as of this morning from my bottom weight, but down a pound from 2 days ago.
Still, I feel better since I know I am exercising. Overall I feel healthier and the exercise no longer wears me out with a few exceptions.
It's utterly hilarious to me that I'm a 250 pound guy who has a lot better flexibility than my brother who is some 40 pounds lighter than me. Yoga and stretching FTW.
So does anyone here own a Bowflex or one of those types of machines? Do they actually work?
Also has anyone used those weight loss supplements like Stacker 2? Do those work?
Edit: Oh and nearly forgot, I might not be actually losing weight per so, but I think I'm losing some fat cause I checked my waist and I'm down 4 inches from my beginning as opposed to 3 which I had earlier.
Also, I wouldn't get upset about not losing any wieght this week if I were you. That fact that you say you are feeling better and not as worn out from the exercise is a sign of your health improving. If your workout is becoming easy, you could try pushing yourself a little harder. Like try doing 25 pushups instead of 20, and other little improvements.
Then you will lose more fat and you weight will drop some more and then level again as the process continuously repeats itself.
Losing weight takes time if you are doing it properly. Losing a lot of weight quickly is seriously worse for your health than keeping the weight on. Your internal organs don't like the stress it causes.
I would advise buying a pair of dumbells. You can do almost any exercise you see in a gym with dumbells.
Also, I wouldn't get upset about not losing any wieght this week if I were you. That fact that you say you are feeling better and not as worn out from the exercise is a sign of your health improving. If your workout is becoming easy, you could try pushing yourself a little harder. Like try doing 25 pushups instead of 20, and other little improvements.
Actually Wii Fit does that for me. All the strength workouts add reps over time, and most of the time I put myself at maximum reps. The exceptions being the few that do wear me out when I do them (Push up and side plank at 20 reps is plenty when you are towing my kind of weight.)
The Yoga does not add anything, but those are more of a stretch than anything else, so there isn't much of a point to added time. Instead you end up pushing your flexibility more and more.
Actually Wii Fit does that for me. All the strength workouts add reps over time, and most of the time I put myself at maximum reps. The exceptions being the few that do wear me out when I do them (Push up and side plank at 20 reps is plenty when you are towing my kind of weight.)
The Yoga does not add anything, but those are more of a stretch than anything else, so there isn't much of a point to added time. Instead you end up pushing your flexibility more and more.
Wii Fit has beaten me again!!
Wii Fit has beaten me again!!
Only barely. It takes a while for Wii Fit to add reps.
The thing is, as you add more reps, the time spent on each exercise is increased, so in reality I wouldn't be doing much more exercise overall as I do about 15 minutes of combined strength and yoga exercises daily. More reps just means I do each exercise less often. Of course, it is better to actually wear yourself out once every week doing a strength exercise then it is to every day do an exercise that doesn't tire you the least bit.
Right now I am aiming for 45 minutes total exercise a day, 15 mixed strength and yoga, 30 of cardio. Some days I do less but I always do more than 30 total (when I exercise, sadly I have been missing a few days here and there)
I'm glad I'm not the only one that exercises while on this forum.
Posting on this thread REMINDS me to exercise. Half the time my last post of the day is from right after I finish exercising and am about to go to sleep.
(I consider the day to end around 7 AM, cause I sleep generally from 6 or 7 AM until 2 PM)
Edit: Oh and nearly forgot, I might not be actually losing weight per so, but I think I'm losing some fat cause I checked my waist and I'm down 4 inches from my beginning as opposed to 3 which I had earlier.
This is the important thing. If your waist is going down but weight is the same then it means you are putting on muscle while losing fat. It is a good sign. Keep it up.
Keep it up.
That's what she said.
That's what she said.
I'm sorry is she said that to you. It sucks how women have to emasculate us all the time. So how did you respond?
I'm sorry is she said that to you. It sucks how women have to emasculate us all the time. So how did you respond?
By doing exactly what she had just asked for.
For the next couple of hours.
Bow chikka wow wow.
I'm going to sleep right now, visions of cookies and all the nice things Im allowed to eat on free days.
)I don't think I ever had such a complete workout than when I used a bowflex a few years back.
One machine to look into -maybe- is the Abcoaster. It's not a bad device, providing you do it -in addition- to your normal routine and follow the meal plan. I've slimmed down abit since I got one.
If I am to keep my metabolism up I will have to spend a day eatsing more than normal.
Weighed myself this morning though. NEW LOW! 248.9!!
Of course my free day was me and an extra large hawaiian pizza. Good stuff.
Thank goodness for free days. Otherwise I would have fallen off the wagon weeks ago.
And whats with all the "That's what she said" setups?
Keep It Going!!You might want to avoid eating cheese.
I do generally, unless is my free day.
Do you keep a food log of what you eat? If not, you should. Combine a food log with some simple nutritional information you would be surprised at how much of an impact it can have on your weight-loss program.
Last year I hit upon a recipe that became a staple in my summer diet and I think that it helped me take off a fair amount of weight (I was rollerblading the whole summer so the exercise had a lot to do with it, but the recipe was quite healthy, too).
And, finally, while I do not use the site one of my friends swears by the site Spark People.
You might want to avoid eating cheese.
Is that what she said?
Simply put this is NOT the place to discuss assault, even in a joking matter.
Please keep your posts polite, respectful, and on-topic, and refrain from making personal attacks.
GO!! :D
Last couple of days I have missed exercise but kept on diet.
I am not too worried as I said I kept on my diet so I probably didnt gain any weight.
Simply put this is NOT the place to discuss assault, even in a joking matter.
I will stop discussing assault here, but that really cuts down on the conversations we can have involving D&D since that's pretty much the core of the game.
I will stop discussing assault here, but that really cuts down on the conversations we can have involving D&D since that's pretty much the core of the game.
/facepalm
I never heard anything more stupid ever before.
Eat 5-6 meals a day. Each meal should include some protein, in other words white meat, chicken meat, turkey meat, fish. Fresh fruit and veggies are a must.
Do not, ever, eat sweet stuff. It gets burned for energy first before fat, so you'll have a harder time losing weight.
Do cardio at least 3-4 times a week,I'm talking fast pace running here, high intensity. 45 mins min. The human body only starts burning fat after 20-30 mins of cardio, so if you're doing only 30 mins, they might be doing little to nothing for you.
Well, those are some pointers
You can do it man, no giving up!You haven't been exercising?
You mean you aren't working your Wii?
Why did you stop working your Wii? Did you say you didn't have time to work your Wii? I have never known that to stop boys before...
... :PWhy did you stop working your Wii? Did you say you didn't have time to work your Wii? I have never known that to stop boys before...
Everyone look! Minja's trying to be dirty. Look she's being dirty. See, Minja's a dirty girl. :P
Go Stealthmarmot GO!!
You haven't been exercising?
You mean you aren't working your Wii?
Why did you stop working your Wii? Did you say you didn't have time to work your Wii? I have never known that to stop boys before...
I was tired!
Anyway, yesterday I missed exercising again cause I was busy all night doing my taxes.
45+ minutes of Cardio? Way to encourage!
"HEY if you don't do 45+ minutes of INTENSE cardio, you may as well be doing nothing at all! Cause, you know, EVERYONE has that kind of time and energy!"
Thanks.
I was tired!
Anyway, yesterday I missed exercising again cause I was busy all night doing my taxes.
45+ minutes of Cardio? Way to encourage!
"HEY if you don't do 45+ minutes of INTENSE cardio, you may as well be doing nothing at all! Cause, you know, EVERYONE has that kind of time and energy!"
Thanks.
It's the truth friend, there's no use whining about it
Make it 30 minutes then...but don't blame me if it doesn't work But ok, here's one more advice. Eat a smaller meal before you go to bed, and eat some celery as part of that dinner. Celery is a "negative calorie" food. Your body burns fat during the night, and it burns more calories than celery itself contains. Thus, if you eat some for dinner, you'll still be burning more calories than you consume.
It's the truth friend, there's no use whining about it
If losing 20+ pounds over 4 months is not working, I guess I will just have to live with it.
Thanks for the advice on the celery, I'll remember that.
If losing 20+ pounds over 4 months is not working, I guess I will just have to live with it.
Thanks for the advice on the celery, I'll remember that.
I have heard the same thing about cabbage, I don't know that to be true, but it is what I have heard.
Once you start to feel better and you get healthier you will need to sleep less. Just use that time to exercise. :D
I guess I will be looking for the first chance I get to change shifts.
If losing 20+ pounds over 4 months is not working, I guess I will just have to live with it.
Thanks for the advice on the celery, I'll remember that.
Make no mistake. The human body is 70% water. The rest are bones and muscles. It's not the same losing 20 pounds of water weight or 20 pounds of fat.
Can you tell me what your nutrition is composed of? What foods do you eat?
The 20 pounds you lost over 4 months would imply to me it's your nutrition that's doing the most work and not your cardio. But then again I don't know all the details so this is speculation
Btw, don't feel like I'm criticizing you, I'm trying to help.
/facepalm
I never heard anything more stupid ever before.
It's something that's been said repeatedly. D&D is about stabbing people. In the face. Then you take their stuff. these aren't new and original ideas.
This night shift life is really sapping my motivation. It isn't easy doing, well, anything when most everyone and everything you know is awake and running when you are not.
I guess I will be looking for the first chance I get to change shifts.
Just stay away from the Pepsi/Coke/Mountain Dew. Use coffee or tea to stay awake. Also, try going 1 month without any soda. You would be surpised at how much of a difference it can make on losing weight if you cut out the soda. And if you can go 1 month you can go 2 months, and if you can go 2 months you can go 4. It is hard at first, but it gets easier.
Make no mistake. The human body is 70% water. The rest are bones and muscles. It's not the same losing 20 pounds of water weight or 20 pounds of fat.
Can you tell me what your nutrition is composed of? What foods do you eat?
The 20 pounds you lost over 4 months would imply to me it's your nutrition that's doing the most work and not your cardio. But then again I don't know all the details so this is speculation
Btw, don't feel like I'm criticizing you, I'm trying to help.
The weight loss is probably largely due to dietary difference, and the exercise is probably not burning fat directly.
I am eating well, at least relatively. I try to eat a protein, a healthy carb, and a vegetable 3 times a day, with an energy bar as a snack 3 times a day.
My lunches consist of those lean cuisine platter type things. Taste like you sprinkled food flavoring over styrofoam, but they are filling enough and have the essentials (protein, carb, vegetable).
The exercise is not REALLY meant to burn fat directly. It is supposed to keep my body's metabolism up, which is why the snacks and which is why I eat what I want every Sunday.
The diet plan I am on specifically recommends 20 minutes of exercise a day, 3 days of cardio a week and 3 days of weight lifting a week. I deviate from this by doing 15 minutes of strength and yoga stretching exercises a day, and then around 30 minutes of cardio a day. I do extra cardio because the cardio is not intense.
The weight loss is probably largely due to dietary difference, and the exercise is probably not burning fat directly.
I am eating well, at least relatively. I try to eat a protein, a healthy carb, and a vegetable 3 times a day, with an energy bar as a snack 3 times a day.
My lunches consist of those lean cuisine platter type things. Taste like you sprinkled food flavoring over styrofoam, but they are filling enough and have the essentials (protein, carb, vegetable).
The exercise is not REALLY meant to burn fat directly. It is supposed to keep my body's metabolism up, which is why the snacks and which is why I eat what I want every Sunday.
The diet plan I am on specifically recommends 20 minutes of exercise a day, 3 days of cardio a week and 3 days of weight lifting a week. I deviate from this by doing 15 minutes of strength and yoga stretching exercises a day, and then around 30 minutes of cardio a day. I do extra cardio because the cardio is not intense.
Food isn't meant to taste good it's meant to provide your body with what it needs in order to be strong and healthy
Just another question, is your diet based on a large calorie deficit?
I don't count calories, I just eat what seems to be reasonable and remember to eat 6 times a day.
I avoid the obvious things like sugary or fatty foods, don't put salt on my food anymore, don't drink soda much (maybe a glass a day, but I try to avoid it altogether. I don't drink regular at all, but I try to avoid diet sodas too because in reality they are still bad. In fact some think they might be worse than regular soda.)
I'm not perfect, but those are the rules I try to follow.
The problem is, if your diet is based on a large calorie deficit, your body will be losing weight rapidly, but most of that will be water, and your muscle mass will degenerate as well.
So far, that's not such a huge problem. The problem will occur when you reach a plateau, and stop losing weight. No one can be on a low calorie diet forever, and eventually you'll stop your dieting, and thus will stop losing weight.
You will then start gaining weight rapidly and won't be able to stop it. Only this time, when all is said and done, you'll weigh more than you did before.
So I'm just saying, you need a rough number, and you NEED to know how many calories you consume. Otherwise you may be setting yourself up for disaster. I don't know how much you know about weight loss, but I do know a lot of things, so I'm just trying to help you not walk into a trap, so to speak. I'm just pointing out problems, not trying to criticize you or anything
But really, knowing your calories is important. Try google in order to find a list of foods and the number of calories they contain. It's not 100% (and it can't be either), but it will help you
Go on friend, do it right and you'll kick major butt!
ing in my birthday suit. I eat most what ever I want. That might be why I'm in the mid 180 lb range while in my early 20's. Na, that can't be it.Well tonight I have done a solid 30 minutes of working my Wii. Boy, am I all sticky and tired.
I plan on doing another 15 minutes but during my little break I came here.
Easter.... well it wasn't good for my weight loss goals. I made my free day saturday thinking that Easter dinner wouldn't be so bad. The dinner certainly wasn't horrible, it had good food and I did not eat too much.... but there was lots and lots of dessert.
When my dad invited us over for "Easter dinner" he should have been more specific saying "Easter dinner with enough chocolate and candy and cake to give the whole state diabetes"
A cake that was like 2/3 whipped frosting. Not the heavy stuff that you can't eat much of... the good sweet kind that was just slightly heavier than cool whip. Just barely frosting, just a smidge too heavy for whipped cream. And it was shaped like a lamb. (I actually thought it looked like my mom's lhasa apso)
Needless to say, I fell off the wagon. Best cake I have had in like, years.
I'M SORRY!!!
But I'm back on the wagon.
Now if somebody in this house would eat the leftover chocolate BESIDES ME I would be a lot better off.
Gah my brother had to pick this point to go on a diet as well. Jerk. What am I supposed to do about disposing of the chocolate? The only other person in this house is my mom and she eats like a damn BIRD, and I don't like wasting food so I can't throw it away.
It'll preserve it longer.
I feel pretty bad after Easter too... Breakfeast was Quiche, and muffins. this alone is usually worth like two meals....
my mom went overkill with Easterdinner... Shrimp and Crab Cakes (I'm such a sucker for them too...
) then there was the two kinds of cheesecake.... and the orange fudge....Fortunately the biggest thing I splurged on was the dinner. But still so much food... *L*
Will power! do you do any weight training? (I can't remember) It's proven though that weight training is one of the best ways to lose weight.
But it's size doesn't make it exactly friendly for storing.
If you do not want to throw it away then give it away. Take it to work, or school, or a neighbor, or a friend, and let them eat it. Work is a surprisingly great and effective way to get rid of food.
Today I came home from the store and I had to carry a 24 pack of those things inside and I realized something, the weight I lost (Including the weight from before I was measuring) is pretty close to weighing the same amount (probably about 19-20 bottles worth) and probably takes up nearly as much space as the water in them total.
The idea that so far I have dumped off what amounts to carrying an extra 20 bottles of water around, is really helpful. It really isn't until you see it and feel it that you realize how much 20 pounds is.
Well tonight I have done a solid 30 minutes of working my Wii. Boy, am I all sticky and tired.
;) Way to GO STEALTHMARMOT! WORK THAT WII!!
We have a new cheer boys and girls!!
GET STICKY!!!!!
Just keep working on that endurance... remember for some of us 30 minutes is just a warm up ;)
GO!!
KEEP IT UP!! Minja has been on the forums less lately but it seems like her posts have much more innuendo now than they had before. Is this a good sign?
Other commitments you know. What is this innuendo you speak of? :whatsthis
I don't understand.
Oh... yeah, and I agree with KillerGM..... KEEP IT UP!!!!
:P
Innuendos are suppose to be Z_B's and my turf. If you want to encroach on it then I think we got a rumble on our hands.
I am your huckleberry. /reference
Are you telling me you don't want to let the girls play too?
I don't like it when people hit girls.
Go Stealth go! Burn that fat.
DAMN YOU MINJA you just quoted the most awesome movie of all time!
Poor fella, was just too high strung.
I am your huckleberry. /reference
Are you telling me you don't want to let the girls play too?
I'm letting you play by letting you rumble for a position in the innuendo ranks. Now, put 'em up.
Stealth, beat that fat. Maybe if you get sticky playing with my Wii, Stealth will play his more. :D
GET STICKY!!!!!
Yeah! Get sticky! But not with girls, that's just gross. I mean... ew! ;)
Yeah! Get sticky! But not with girls, that's just gross. I mean... ew! ;)
Ahhh, c'mon EE, you are old enough to realize girls don't have cooties! ;)
I just can't imagine an activity that involves getting sticky with a girl that I would find enjoyable.
Hmm....
Jogging?
Wrestling in Tapioca?
....how about....
Watching and ogling Zach Effron as Light in the new Death Note movie in the summer time in a theater with no air conditioning?!?!
I am your huckleberry. /reference
Thank you Doc.
Ah it's fun to find someone willing to get sticky with me.
Tonight. Exercise. Tomorrow morning, the weigh in.
After that, the celebratory trip to an ice cream parlor. God I love free days.
Perhaps you should skip the Ice Cream parlor. I mean if you work hard to lose weight, why go eat ice cream? There is plenty of good healthy food.
Because if you restrict your free day, then it's not really a free day. It's the release that keeps you on track for the rest of the week.
Enjoy your free day, man. I know how much those things can mean during the week when you're stuffing down stuff that isn't as delicious as ice cream, or forcing yourself to work out. ;)
Hey stealth, you want to try my method of losing weight? Get a stereo, play some loud music (preferably Slayer, Pantera, or Knuckledraggers), turn it up full blast, and go beat up punks that like to bully others. You get to be batman, listen to good music, and lose weight! :D
I'm thin as a rail already, if I exercised I would have negative weight, wrestling is uninteresting, and why would I watch the film adaption of a manga/anime I haven't seen?
Hello, cause Zach is HOT! Duh!
:P I love getting sticky, went for a five mile run this afternoon. I was REAL sticky by the end. That is until I showered... then I wasn't so sticky.... because sweat is sticky.
Because if you restrict your free day, then it's not really a free day. It's the release that keeps you on track for the rest of the week.
Enjoy your free day, man. I know how much those things can mean during the week when you're stuffing down stuff that isn't as delicious as ice cream, or forcing yourself to work out. ;)
It just seems very counter productive to the goal.
This is a diet that specifically allows you one free day per week where you are not only allowed to eat a whole bunch of whatever you like, you are encouraged to.
The diet does this because of the human body's tendency to adapt to a diet. When you slow your caloric intake, your body slows its metabolism o compensate. But if you occasionally, every week or so, have a huge caloric intake, your body stays in high gear.
In short, I'm tricking my body into thinking I'm eating tons of food constantly, yet in reality I'm actually only doing it every week.
It just seems very counter productive to the goal.
It's a relatively small negative step (that the mind views as positive) to mentally balance out all the positive steps (that the mind views as negative).
It's worth it to keep you going, is what I'm saying. Sometimes, the only thing that got me through workouts was looking forward to a reward. It's a look at the total calories for the week, not each day, you know?
But whatever. It appears to be working for him, so I say keep it up! :D
Hello, cause Zach is HOT! Duh!
I love getting sticky, went for a five mile run this afternoon. I was REAL sticky by the end. That is until I showered... then I wasn't so sticky.... because sweat is sticky.
Yeah, getting sticky is fun, but it tends to be more fun when you have someone to be sticky with.
Cause when you get sticky by yourself..... Aw to hell with it, how about I just put a wall of (Euphemism) up? It will have the same effect.
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I'm no expert on the human body, but that sounds similiar to binge eating, which is an eating disorder. Did you ever talk to a doctor or some other professional about the diet?
Actually it is a pretty common feature in many diet programs. If you ever watch the Biggest Loser on NBC they sometimes reference the free days. There is one day where you are free to eat whatever you want. It is believed that the built in free day keeps people motivated over the long haul of their weight loss.
Does it work for everyone? No, but then again, no diet does.
Yeah, getting sticky is fun, but it tends to be more fun when you have someone to be sticky with.
Cause when you get sticky by yourself..... Aw to hell with it, how about I just put a wall of (Euphemism) up? It will have the same effect.
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That actually made me laugh at loud.
Actually it is a pretty common feature in many diet programs. If you ever watch the Biggest Loser on NBC they sometimes reference the free days. There is one day where you are free to eat whatever you want. It is believed that the built in free day keeps people motivated over the long haul of their weight loss.
Does it work for everyone? No, but then again, no diet does.
Well if it's working for Stealthmarmot, then good job!
Gettin sticky by yourself is still good and fun. Not as much, but still. It's better than not getting sticky. Hell, I get sticky by myself all the time, cuz I don't have anyone to get sticky with!
That's horrifying. 'Specially cuz you have all of those shaved, Crisco'd gerbils.
I'm no expert on the human body, but that sounds similiar to binge eating, which is an eating disorder. Did you ever talk to a doctor or some other professional about the diet?
Binge eating is overeating uncontrollably. It is done compulsively and often, and done during depression, and eats until they experience physical discomfort.
Actually a lot of eating disorders is not just what a person does, but why they do it.
The free days are planned, regular, and are done as a reward of sorts, so I do not feel depressed during it. I also don't eat so much I get physically ill.
Also a good sign of binge eating is doing it alone due to feelings of shame, when I have a free day I do it in front of people at a D&D session.
That's horrifying. 'Specially cuz you have all of those shaved, Crisco'd gerbils.
No, I don't. You're just making that up.
Is baneofelves Richard Gere?
No, I don't. You're just making that up.
Nuh uh. It's written on the net someplace.
Nuh uh. It's written on the net someplace.
Oh yeah, well I read somewhere that you made love to a snail! And then you killed it, made love to it again, then ATE IT!
a song
You can bugger a whale if you're willing to swim
or an ORanguTANG if you hang from a limb;
or make time with a snail if you slow... to... a... crawl...,
... but the hedgehog can never be buggered at all!
or an ORanguTANG if you hang from a limb;
or make time with a snail if you slow... to... a... crawl...,
... but the hedgehog can never be buggered at all!
No. YOU are.
Beats being accused of being Ben Affleck. Gere has SOME talent at least.
It just seems very counter productive to the goal.
Not picking on you, but to expand on what others have been saying, having a free day also is a way to make your body think it's not starving.
That's a problem with most diets, if you start having to tap into fat stores for energy, your body reacts as if it was starving and does everything in its power to stop losing more fat stores. Which is also why most people gain a lot of weight when they go off a diet, your body wants to go crazy and store every last bit of glucose that's in your body.
Not picking on you, but to expand on what others have been saying, having a free day also is a way to make your body think it's not starving.
That's a problem with most diets, if you start having to tap into fat stores for energy, your body reacts as if it was starving and does everything in its power to stop losing more fat stores. Which is also why most people gain a lot of weight when they go off a diet, your body wants to go crazy and store every last bit of glucose that's in your body.
If it's working and not hurting stealthmarmot, I can't complain. I've been weighing the same weight for at least seven years, so I have no personal knowledge on diets.
Oh yeah, well I read somewhere that you made love to a snail! And then you killed it, made love to it again, then ATE IT!
And? I'd have eatin' the sucker 'live, but it needed some sort of ... sauce ...
Tired.
Edit: So I tried one of these "Myoplex" shakes that is recommended on the Body for Life diet. My bro picked up a few and I decided to try one out, since the energy bars they make are certainly edible, and it had 42 grams of protein in that one shake.
It was.... how do I describe this...?
You know that microphone feedback sound, the one you hear if you put a mic too close to a speaker? Well imagine if that was a flavor, then mix it with a packet of unsweetened Nestle Quik and water from a slightly rusty hose.
It was not pleasant. The top of the thing said "made in Canada". I now have a grudge against Canada.
Going to low will cause rapid weight loss, not fat loss and it will ruin your metabolism meaning that when you stop dieting and start eating again you will gain fat really fast. You'll be fatter then you were before this diet. These are called crash diets and sadly are very popular with people. You need to change body composition when dieting down properly. Your body has water/muscle/fat mass. Saying you want to lose 20pounds of mass means you want to lose weight on a scale which makes no difference which type of mass you lose. People who lose a lot the first 2 weeks are "happy" because the scale went down. But they only lost fluids in that time and not fat or muscle. So when looking in the mirror they still look like ****. Throw out the weighing scale and use a measuring tape to see if you loose inches here and there. Also take pictures at the same time under the same circumstances and compare them every other week to see progress. Screw the scale...its useless.
Calories are by themselves not really interesting. It is how you fill them with nutrients that matters. Eating 6 times a day is nice, but not necessary unless you're a dedicated athlete. For most people it is important to have your macro nutrients in your body and that can be done with 3 meals if you want. Still 6 proper meals, no apples or such but a real meal, will make sure your body is full all the time reducing the chance to grab for snacks or something else.
My experience with various clients and myself has taught to see calories as a budget you can spend. This budget needs to be spread among proteins, complex carbohydrates and certain fats. Proteins and fats are the most important to eat when wanting to lose fat. Carbs are needed to get through the day without getting headaches and getting dizzy. And of course on days you exercise intensely you need more carbs then on non work-out days.
You start by using the calory budget as follows. 2.5grams (4kcal per 1gram) of protein per 1kg of body mass. It doesn't matter if its lean or not. Just take your overall body mass. Then make sure you have 60grams of fats (in english its called saturated?) which are 9kcal per 1gr. The rest of calory budget available you divide by 4 to see how much grams of complex carbs to eat. Make sure to get enough vegetables of the green kind. Spinach, celery, cabbage.
Don't use tomatoes/lettuce and junk. It's fluids with some minerals and anti-oxidants. They are important, but when dieting down don't start setting up your meals with it. Add it later if there is still room. Otherwise use Multivitamin&mineral tablets for the time you diet down.
Don't diet for more then 12 weeks. Then eat normal amounts. Seeing you only went 500cal under your maintenance you won't have a jojo effect. In fact you'd probably keep losing a bit more.
Also insulin plays a factor. The higher your body fat the worse it works. Very global description...It means that your food won't be digested and processed properly by the body. This is why fat people get fatter. So cut down your carbs and only take the complex variety when you do. You've got to earn your carbs or you'll end up being a diabetics patient in due time. When your fat percentage is lower your insulin will work better and food will processed faster and you can eat more.
Having one day in the week for "cheat" meals is cool, but keep it moderate. Don't fill yourself up on lots of snacks. You'll just undo all your hard work by 1-2 days if you don't watch it. Cheat meals are meant to keep your metabolism rate working. It means you eat your caloric maintenance amount instead of the -500 version you do during the other 6 days. You're supposed to fill those 500calories by something tasty yet healthy. Like a huge grilled chicken for example. Not too stuck up on loads of empty calories in the form of snacks and sugars which will set you back. Sure a mars or a twinky is fine, but not an entire bag.
As for exercise. You need to get your muscles actively working. This doesn't work when sitting in a machine and reading a magazine. That is not exercising. Stay at home if that is the intensity your use at the gym. Don't fool yourself by pretending your making a difference and are being healthy...you're fooling yourself and wasting time. Only good thing is that such clients give me easy money.
Use exercises that active as much muscles as possible. The more active your muscles are the more calories you'll burn. Your resting metabolism will increase as well so that you'll burn more even when not working-out. Cardio is something I would not do for the first few weeks. You need a sledgehammer for when you reach a plateau and the fat loss starts to slow down. So after 3 weeks add High Intensity Interval Cardio after each work-out. This will take 15-20mins at most. You can do it outside or on a treadmill. 30sec walk, 30sec jog, 30sec sprint and repeat till your time is up. you'll burn more then with steady state cardio which basically wastes time at this stage. 3-4 weeks after that you'll add steady state 60min cardio on non-work-out days.
Rest is important. But this applies to strenght training. Have 1-2 days rest before you train the same muscle groups again. Have the weekends restful if possible. Go out and do fun stuff. 3-4 days strenght trainings with HIIT and 2 days steady state cardio should be the max.
Don't waste time with doing abdominal exercises if you want to show your 6pack. It won't show until your bodyfat percentage is low enough. If you do the proper exercises you'll do the abs already anyhow. Also don't waste time with ab- and adductor machine like a lot of women do to target their "problem" areas and weak excuses. Those muscles are too small, they won't burn a lot of calories and thus the "problematic areas" will not be dealt with. 15mins of sternght work isn't enough. Make it 60mins. Keep the weights challenging and the rest intervals around 30-45secs.
As for women...same rules apply. No you won't get big and hulky and muscular because you lack testosterone production. You will however get firmer. So train hard and heavy just like men. Don't be afraid of de Squat and Deadlift because those truly work your problematic areas.
Calories are important. You have to eat less then you need, but stay within boundaries. If you go too low your metabolism will crash and the body will start to store fat, because it fears a long cold winter approaching and needs to store up on fat. That way it'll have a source of nutrients when the food supply stops entirely. So make sure you eat sufficient amounts of calories. My suggestion is never to go less then 500 then what your maintenance calories are.
Going to low will cause rapid weight loss, not fat loss and it will ruin your metabolism meaning that when you stop dieting and start eating again you will gain fat really fast. You'll be fatter then you were before this diet. These are called crash diets and sadly are very popular with people. You need to change body composition when dieting down properly. Your body has water/muscle/fat mass. Saying you want to lose 20pounds of mass means you want to lose weight on a scale which makes no difference which type of mass you lose. People who lose a lot the first 2 weeks are "happy" because the scale went down. But they only lost fluids in that time and not fat or muscle. So when looking in the mirror they still look like ****. Throw out the weighing scale and use a measuring tape to see if you loose inches here and there. Also take pictures at the same time under the same circumstances and compare them every other week to see progress. Screw the scale...its useless.
Calories are by themselves not really interesting. It is how you fill them with nutrients that matters. Eating 6 times a day is nice, but not necessary unless you're a dedicated athlete. For most people it is important to have your macro nutrients in your body and that can be done with 3 meals if you want. Still 6 proper meals, no apples or such but a real meal, will make sure your body is full all the time reducing the chance to grab for snacks or something else.
My experience with various clients and myself has taught to see calories as a budget you can spend. This budget needs to be spread among proteins, complex carbohydrates and certain fats. Proteins and fats are the most important to eat when wanting to lose fat. Carbs are needed to get through the day without getting headaches and getting dizzy. And of course on days you exercise intensely you need more carbs then on non work-out days.
You start by using the calory budget as follows. 2.5grams (4kcal per 1gram) of protein per 1kg of body mass. It doesn't matter if its lean or not. Just take your overall body mass. Then make sure you have 60grams of fats (in english its called saturated?) which are 9kcal per 1gr. The rest of calory budget available you divide by 4 to see how much grams of complex carbs to eat. Make sure to get enough vegetables of the green kind. Spinach, celery, cabbage.
Don't use tomatoes/lettuce and junk. It's fluids with some minerals and anti-oxidants. They are important, but when dieting down don't start setting up your meals with it. Add it later if there is still room. Otherwise use Multivitamin&mineral tablets for the time you diet down.
Don't diet for more then 12 weeks. Then eat normal amounts. Seeing you only went 500cal under your maintenance you won't have a jojo effect. In fact you'd probably keep losing a bit more.
Also insulin plays a factor. The higher your body fat the worse it works. Very global description...It means that your food won't be digested and processed properly by the body. This is why fat people get fatter. So cut down your carbs and only take the complex variety when you do. You've got to earn your carbs or you'll end up being a diabetics patient in due time. When your fat percentage is lower your insulin will work better and food will processed faster and you can eat more.
Having one day in the week for "cheat" meals is cool, but keep it moderate. Don't fill yourself up on lots of snacks. You'll just undo all your hard work by 1-2 days if you don't watch it. Cheat meals are meant to keep your metabolism rate working. It means you eat your caloric maintenance amount instead of the -500 version you do during the other 6 days. You're supposed to fill those 500calories by something tasty yet healthy. Like a huge grilled chicken for example. Not too stuck up on loads of empty calories in the form of snacks and sugars which will set you back. Sure a mars or a twinky is fine, but not an entire bag.
As for exercise. You need to get your muscles actively working. This doesn't work when sitting in a machine and reading a magazine. That is not exercising. Stay at home if that is the intensity your use at the gym. Don't fool yourself by pretending your making a difference and are being healthy...you're fooling yourself and wasting time. Only good thing is that such clients give me easy money.
Use exercises that active as much muscles as possible. The more active your muscles are the more calories you'll burn. Your resting metabolism will increase as well so that you'll burn more even when not working-out. Cardio is something I would not do for the first few weeks. You need a sledgehammer for when you reach a plateau and the fat loss starts to slow down. So after 3 weeks add High Intensity Interval Cardio after each work-out. This will take 15-20mins at most. You can do it outside or on a treadmill. 30sec walk, 30sec jog, 30sec sprint and repeat till your time is up. you'll burn more then with steady state cardio which basically wastes time at this stage. 3-4 weeks after that you'll add steady state 60min cardio on non-work-out days.
Rest is important. But this applies to strenght training. Have 1-2 days rest before you train the same muscle groups again. Have the weekends restful if possible. Go out and do fun stuff. 3-4 days strenght trainings with HIIT and 2 days steady state cardio should be the max.
Don't waste time with doing abdominal exercises if you want to show your 6pack. It won't show until your bodyfat percentage is low enough. If you do the proper exercises you'll do the abs already anyhow. Also don't waste time with ab- and adductor machine like a lot of women do to target their "problem" areas and weak excuses. Those muscles are too small, they won't burn a lot of calories and thus the "problematic areas" will not be dealt with. 15mins of sternght work isn't enough. Make it 60mins. Keep the weights challenging and the rest intervals around 30-45secs.
As for women...same rules apply. No you won't get big and hulky and muscular because you lack testosterone production. You will however get firmer. So train hard and heavy just like men. Don't be afraid of de Squat and Deadlift because those truly work your problematic areas.
Exactly. I told him the same thing more or less (although in a MUCH shorter version, I didn't bother to write up as much as you did), but I got accused of discouraging him lol.
Apparently he's afraid of cardio, so don't scare him with 60 mins of SSC. I told him 45 mins and he got scared. I also told him the weight will come back if his diet is based on low calorie intake and such.
I hope he listened to both of us though.
And yeah, I second the thing about reading magazines while exercising in a gym. That's just...bah I can't be bothered. If your exercises require so little concentration that you can read while doing them, then you're not training properly.
I have yet to see any serious lifter do this during his exercise. You're probably gonna say you're no serious lifter, but if you really wanna get in shape and lose the fat, you'll have to become one.
It's not easy, if easy is what you're looking for, try rearranging your socks. Losing weight requires hard work, if you wanna do it right.
The least you can do is be honest with yourself and accept you don't really want to change and lose the fat and stay unhealthy. Those who truly want to change make the needed changes and will succeed in relatively little time. Sure they work-out 4-6 times very intensely per week. But they're done in 3 months. Other people still linger around the fitness clubs several years later with 0 progress.
It is a lot of work to get there, but maintaining it is very easy.
And yes working out hard and heavy is required. You won't turn into the next mr. Olympia bodybuilder overnight. It takes 10 years if not more to reach such a physique (not mentioning the load of anabolics). So someone who does it to lose weight and such will not get overly muscular. They'll have more the athletic figure.
Just a global "rant" not directed at anyone personally here.
You know what peeves me off. Not everyone has to have the perfect body. As long as people stay within 10-20% bodyfat they're healthy enough and that is fine. With 15-20% you have a pretty big gut already as is. But I get really ****** off that fat/obese people are being glamorized more and more. As if it is good to be fat and unhealthy and get a lot of diseases because of it. And if you don't accept fat people you're being racist. Well boohoo let me be a racist then. The only reason obese people should be accepted and tolerated is when that high level of fat is a result of prescribed medications. Anything else should be kicked in the butt and give people a reality check. People who deliberately are overweight should be harshly dealt with. Higher medical insurance for starters. I also like the fat taxes and such :D
And yes I know how hard it is to be fat. I have an endomorphic bodytype. I get fat really fast and I can't eat as much as I would like. I was very obese with 28% bodyfat twice in my life. And it took me a whole lot of hard work to get it down to 8%, but since I don't like that I just stick around 12-16%. Easier to maintain and still look good
How are fate people being glamorized? If I recall correctly, being fat isn't exactly cool.
Well it is true that in a lot of magazines and movies etc you don't see fat people. You see quite the opposite. Too often you still see anorexic dolls everywhere. Chicks on catwalks who are supposed to be gorgeous but they're nothing but skin and bones. Skinny women who say they have great legs when they're nothing but skin and bones. That is not healthy either.
But... Lately there is an uprising of the other extreme. Fat glamorizing.
http://www.naafaonline.com/dev2/
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/diet_blog_hammer_velocity_shugart/confession_i_am_antifatat
Heck there are even "researchers" from "national health institutes" (who talk a lot of crap most of the time) that say fat isn't unhealthy. Well not if you stay between 10-20% of bodyfat, but it sure as hell is if you're outside of those parameters. Pro bodybuilders can't maintain their extreme low bodyfat for too long or they'll collapse and thus have to peak at the time of their show. 25+ obese people have diabetics, heart disease, joint problems and what not.
Edit - LOL antifat...
GO STEALTH GO!! And yes I know how hard it is to be fat. I have an endomorphic bodytype. I get fat really fast and I can't eat as much as I would like. I was very obese with 28% bodyfat twice in my life. And it took me a whole lot of hard work to get it down to 8%, but since I don't like that I just stick around 12-16%. Easier to maintain and still look good
You're my f****** hero man. I really have to say that. With your endomorphic body type it must have been really hard to get where you are now.
I was lucky enough to be gifted with an almost full mesomorphic body type. So I have an easy time losing fat if I need to. Although I never needed to, to be honest. It's just lately that I've been trying to get into single digits of body fat.
Just a global "rant" not directed at anyone personally here.
You know what peeves me off. Not everyone has to have the perfect body. As long as people stay within 10-20% bodyfat they're healthy enough and that is fine. With 15-20% you have a pretty big gut already as is. But I get really ****** off that fat/obese people are being glamorized more and more. As if it is good to be fat and unhealthy and get a lot of diseases because of it. And if you don't accept fat people you're being racist. Well boohoo let me be a racist then. The only reason obese people should be accepted and tolerated is when that high level of fat is a result of prescribed medications. Anything else should be kicked in the butt and give people a reality check. People who deliberately are overweight should be harshly dealt with. Higher medical insurance for starters. I also like the fat taxes and such
Why do you try? I work with people every day, and I see and meet hundreds of people every day. I work on a gas station, btw. I don't wanna turn this into a long talk, so I'll make it short. Most people don't care. Most people just act as if they wanted to change something, but never have the will power to do so. I'd rather train 1 person who has the will to change, rather than 1000 who don't and who think they can get lean and good looking in a couple of months.
As far as obesity and anorexia is concerned, here's the truth. Both are extremes, and neither is good. both lead to illnesses and diseases. Those who are obese need to lose fat, and those who are anorexic need to gain some, to put it in a simple, yet true, way.
But... Lately there is an uprising of the other extreme. Fat glamorizing.
http://www.naafaonline.com/dev2/
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_...i_am_antifatat
Heck there are even "researchers" from "national health institutes" (who talk a lot of crap most of the time) that say fat isn't unhealthy. Well not if you stay between 10-20% of bodyfat, but it sure as hell is if you're outside of those parameters. Pro bodybuilders can't maintain their extreme low bodyfat for too long or they'll collapse and thus have to peak at the time of their show. 25+ obese people have diabetics, heart disease, joint problems and what not.
It's ironic. Trying to help obese/anorexic people by giving them good advice is suddenly wrong. Let's all be lazy. Let's all be fat. Let's all die of heart attacks at the age of 35. Yeah that's the way to go. Why train? It's too hard. If its easy, bring it, if it's hard run from it. That's the general attitude of people.
The fact is, training and losing fat is hard. That's why there are more and more obese people. This is the naked truth.
I saw nothing about fat being 'good', just that being treated poorly solely on the basis of weight is discriminatory.
And that other link, the one about the healthy living guy that apparently got called 'antifat'... eh. Whoever called him that was probably out-of-line, but to be honest, trying to tell someone else how to eat without being asked is just rude behavior. Looking down on people for not eating right is just... what's the word... arrogant?
... yeah, I'm not seeing how that site 'glamorizes' fat. I read some of the articles and they were talking about discrimination against fat people, things like discrimination at the job, being treated badly by other people, and things like that.
I saw nothing about fat being 'good', just that being treated poorly solely on the basis of weight is discriminatory.
And that other link, the one about the healthy living guy that apparently got called 'antifat'... eh. Whoever called him that was probably out-of-line, but to be honest, trying to tell someone else how to eat without being asked is just rude behavior. Looking down on people for not eating right is just... what's the word... arrogant?
I agree.
... yeah, I'm not seeing how that site 'glamorizes' fat. I read some of the articles and they were talking about discrimination against fat people, things like discrimination at the job, being treated badly by other people, and things like that.
I saw nothing about fat being 'good', just that being treated poorly solely on the basis of weight is discriminatory.
And that other link, the one about the healthy living guy that apparently got called 'antifat'... eh. Whoever called him that was probably out-of-line, but to be honest, trying to tell someone else how to eat without being asked is just rude behavior. Looking down on people for not eating right is just... what's the word... arrogant?
In my life, I have learned to listen to good advice, even if it is arrogant, and even if the person IS looking down on you. Whenever I did that, 2 months later, those same people who looked down on me, were looking up to me. They had nothing to look down on.
Because I listen to good advice, no matter how arrogant.
And how, exactly, does the fact that something is good advice make someone any less of an ass for being rude and arrogant? Unsolicitied advice is still unsolicited, no matter how 'good' it may have been.
Arrogance is his problem, not yours. Take his advice to heart, live by it, and in 2 months he'll be looking up to you.
Seriously, what part of this is hard to understand? Giving people unsolicited advice on how to live their life is rude, arrogant, and all around not something that should be done. I won't do it to others, and I won't accept it either.
How about not? If I wanted advice, I would ask for it. And if I'm going to ask for it, I'll consult a professional, not some arrogant jerk.
Seriously, what part of this is hard to understand? Giving people unsolicited advice on how to live their life is rude, arrogant, and all around not something that should be done. I won't do it to others, and I won't accept it either.
It's sad to see someone throw away good advice just because of someone's tone of voice, or rude behavior, which is mainly the problem of said person, and not yours.
If you found gold in mud, would you take it?
Is this is in any way unclear, vague, or hard to understand? Shall I draw a diagram? It will have three circles. One will be labeled 'advice that I trust', the other will be 'advice that I don't trust, and the third will be labeled 'unsolicited advice given by armchair experts who think they know better then me'. There will be zero intersection between the first and third circles. In fact, the third circle will completely be within the second, which itself with have no intersection with the first. Are we all clear on this now?
And to be perfectly honest, I will never find gold in mud because I have better things to do with my time then look in mud.
I trust your advice is accurate, but keep in mind I wake up at 2:45 PM and go to work until midnight.
Little piece of advice, people tend to think of getting into shape as a side venture, not a singular cause. I have a 40 hour a week job, I don't need another one.
I will look at some of your advice though, for example I'll probably start doing a lot more strength exercises per workout, and instead skip a day and do only cardio instead. You are probably right that I don't devote enough time to the strength exercises, and should work on them a bit more.
I am not sure I'll be able to get to a real gym, so if you have some advice on some strength exercises I can do at home without a machine or an exercise machine that could work (like a bowflex) then I am all ears.
As for cardio, jogging is probably the best bet as you described it, but I will have to either get up early or do it just before I go to bed (5AM-6AM)
Oh and TheMonk, you really need to work on not sounding condescending.
Falstyr gave similar advice, and it was a bit hard hitting, but he actually explained it thoroughly and I really think I am getting something out of it. That's the difference.
Granted I don't think I will get to the point where I will actually be doing an hour of cardio a day, but I think I will get myself to at least a half hour.
It's not all about how to get into perfect shape, it's how healthy I can be and live with it. I think I could stand 5 hours a week total of exercise.
As for the free day, the entire point of it is not just to keep my metabolism up, that's more of an excuse than anything else, the point is that I don't deny myself the occasional relaxation day. Realize I don't want to make the decision between ever having pizza again and being healthy. Plus I don't want to have to think about being on a diet during D&D.
Edit: I take back everything I said about Falstyr not being condescending.
And yes, I understand what you're trying to say, no need to be rude. I'm just trying to tell you that ANY advice can be good or bad, but it's up to you to find out into which category each advice falls, and use the advice that's good. The person next to you may not have a badge on his shirt that says "fitness expert", but that does not mean they don't know what they are talking about.
Also, I am not keen on trusting in anyone's advice, but I always remember it and do my homework on a specific piece of advice, and I also consult people I trust.
What I am trying to say is that even advice from a random person can be good, as long as you inform yourself about it and consult people you trust.
I never said you should listen to just about anyone. When you find that gold in the mud, maybe it's not real gold, but you'll never know until you ask someone who knows his stuff.
Oh and TheMonk, you really need to work on not sounding condescending.
I apologize if I sounded that way. It was not my intention. I am merely trying to help. Please do note that I am in a hurry at the moment, so I'm typing hastily here. Perhaps that is why my posts are not thought out as well as they usually are.
Hopefully you won't think badly of me because of one slip-up. Then again, I should probably take my time to write a better post and not post while in a hurry.
Edit: I take back everything I said about Falstyr not being condescending.
Um, I'm confused lol. Did you man me by this (did you accidentally spell Falstyr's name instead of mine?), or did you mean Falstyr.
Because you never said that Falstyr sounded condescending, you only mentioned me.
Sorry, just kinda confused
I do not equate not doing everything with doing nothing. Yes, maybe I don't do as much cardio as needed for the most effective weight loss, and don't eat the perfect diet for it either, but I also don't think that my cutting meals down and exercising are the same as doing nothing and eating what I want.
I appreciate your attempts to be helpful, but instead of going all or nothing and explaining how to turn my life around, instead tell me what I am actually looking for from you guys.
What exercises work most efficiently? What sorts of exercise can I do without a gym membership or equipment? What sorts of home equipment can I get that works?
What sorts of food help the weight stay off? What sorts of food really pack it on?
What sorts of food can I get from a restaurant if I am with friends on a non free day? If I am in a hurry and need some food fast, or on the road, what sorts will do the least damage?
These are the sorts of things that will actually help me. I don't currently live a life that allows me the convenience of being able to eat and exercise the way you guys are suggesting, but that doesn't mean I am a lost cause.
Just because you can't afford a Corvette doesn't excuse you from making the Honda work well.
Um, I'm confused lol. Did you man me by this (did you accidentally spell Falstyr's name instead of mine?), or did you mean Falstyr.
Because you never said that Falstyr sounded condescending, you only mentioned me.
Sorry, just kinda confused
Falstyr's first post was not very condescending, but his later posts were, hence the edit.
I did not mean to insult you or anything.But it's like you said falstyr's post came as a shock to you. However, allow me to explain something about falstyr. There are 3 body types a human can have - endomorph, ectomorph, and mesomorph. Mesomorphs have an easy losing fat, ectomorphs are naturally skinnier and can eat a lot, and still gain little weight. Endomorphs are the ones who have the most problems losing weight, because they are genetically like that (much like the ectomorph, who is kind of the counterpart to the endomorph). All the food they eat catches on very quickly as fat, they get obese easily, and have the hardest time losing the fat.
I is EXTREMELY hard for an endomorph to lose fat, basically. Falstyr is an endomorph. Falstyr HAS to go for everything or nothing, or else he would fail, because his body type does not support the "halfway" strategy that, for example, a mesomorph could easily lose fat with.
So basically, Falstyr is not actually condescending, he is simply sharing his reality with you, and is trying to help by telling you that you probably have an easier time losing fat then he does, because being an endomorph sucks hard when it comes to losing fat.
I am lucky enough to be a mesomorph - however, even though I COULD do things halfway and succeed, I still don't do them halfway. Being a mesomorph does not mean I should do it the easy way just because I can. Because everything that's worth doing is worth doing right.
Neither me nor Falstyr are trying to be condescending my friend. Take me for example. I work at a gas station. I work night shifts, sometimes I have to work all day. I work 6 days a week, 2 night shifts. I still find the time to do at least 2 training sessions a day. Being a professional athlete is my No. 1 priority in life, despite a job. Despite my job, I still do not give up on being a professional athlete and fighter.
I have the same problems as you. Nutrition isn't easy, food isn't always there for the picking, and sometimes I even forget. It's ok! Even and endomorph can allow himself a cheat meal every now and then
So can you my friend.I already explained why Falstyr is kinda hard on you - because he has a hard time keeping the weight off, as opposed to you. He's trying to tell you take it a bit more seriously, especially because you probably have an easier time losing the fat. But just because you can afford slip ups, does not mean you should. If at the moment, you afford yourself slip ups, and still manage to do good with losing weight, imagine what would happen if you took it even more seriously! It would work wonders
That's why falstyr is being a bit hard on you. He's really on your side, and he only wants the best for you. Why? Read his post. HE WAS THERE. He was where you are right now, and he knows it's hard, and it's exactly why he's being hard on you. Every trainer is hard on his trainee, but only because they want him to succeed. And the very reason he has written so much to help you is because he respects the road that you taken - while most people talk about losing fat, you're actually doing it. And that is what he respects.
Now, take me as an example. I'm a fighter. I do the olympic lifts, deadlifts, bench presses, squats, rows, pull ups, the works. I train martial arts, which is my focus. At the age of 11, I had epilepsy. I almost died. My doctor told me to stay away from the ring, and stay away from fighting. She told me that 1 hit in the head could eventually kill me and that I should leave martial arts be.
As I grew older my health got better and better. My health today is in perfect condition. My doctor still advises me not to fight, but I do it anyway. Even at the risk of death.
I'm still there, all the way. When I spar, it could mean death for me. No one in my club knows about this. If they knew, they'd be going easy on me. How could I ever become a good fighter if they know that a single blow in the head could eventually kill me? If everyone spared me, I'd never be a good fighter.
Despite my job, I have 2 training sessions a day, twice a week. The other days of the week I have 3 training sessions a day. All or nothing...why? I train 10 times harder than everyone else, so I don't get hit. In my previous dojo, I was notorious for my blocking. I could easily block almost 90% of all attacks directed at me. How? I trained hard to be able to defend myself that good. Because if I can't defend myself, I could end up dead where I stand...
So I need to train harder than everyone else.
Hopefully now you see why me and falstyr endorse the "all or nothing" approach. We don't have a choice. Being the best at what we do is the only option we have.
Neither I nor falstyr are being condescending
Perhaps this post will serve as motivation for you. We're merely trying to help you out, either by motivation, or by advice.In the days that follow, I'll give you some good advice on nutrition and exercises. I'll be working a lot the next few days, so I may not get to post that soon, but advice is coming, so no worries. I too respect your decision to get in shape. I see you are committed to your goal and I admire that. And I'll help you out.
Trust me, whatever me or falstyr say to you, we mean only to help because we respect your commitment.
I'm with you all the way friend, and I am sure that falstyr is too, so keep losing that fat. I can see your commitment, so rock on
Instead I just decided to make a couple of positive changes in my life.
Thanks for the posting, I appreciate it, sincerely.
Falstyr gave similar advice, and it was a bit hard hitting, but he actually explained it thoroughly and I really think I am getting something out of it. That's the difference.
Granted I don't think I will get to the point where I will actually be doing an hour of cardio a day, but I think I will get myself to at least a half hour.
It's not all about how to get into perfect shape, it's how healthy I can be and live with it. I think I could stand 5 hours a week total of exercise.
As for the free day, the entire point of it is not just to keep my metabolism up, that's more of an excuse than anything else, the point is that I don't deny myself the occasional relaxation day. Realize I don't want to make the decision between ever having pizza again and being healthy. Plus I don't want to have to think about being on a diet during D&D.
Edit: I take back everything I said about Falstyr not being condescending.
I might sound condescending due to text and lack of emotion and body language. But I am a trained professional both in excercise and dietician. On a daily base I work with people with various goals and I treat everyone toughly. If you want some weak instructor that is accepting the excuses people give and say "yah you don't really need to put effort into it to get where you want to be" then i'm not the one for you. I educate my clients at the same time so that they can do the thing on their own after they're done. I might be condescending, but at least my clients and the people I give advice will actually get somewhere. All the other people are easy cash cows to fill my pockets. You put them in a corner and don't pay attention to them and just spend your time and energy on those that do want to actually get somewhere. And no I don't give advice unasked...otherwise I'd be sending everyone on this board private messages :P
Of course making life changes is never easy. Heck I had trouble with it in the beginning. I personally learned a lot of things. It meant taking a few steps backward from the point of view that my life was just fine as it was at that time. So people stopped being friends, I didn't drink alcohol at parties any more and thus I couldn't see the "fun" in the stupid actions you do when being drunk so I stopped going to such parties. I no longer ate the same as the other people at the dinner table, but I still ate at the same time as them. That all looked negative at first, but eventually it worked out great. I met new people, I go to other types of parties to enjoy. Met a girl who is into another field of sports and understands the need to eat different and accepts it. You basically attract people and situations that fit you at that time in your life. People come and go and so do jobs and other stuff.
Trained Professional. It gives me a sour taste in my mouth. Has anyone looked at the quality of education given concerning exercise and nutrients? It's crap and hardly covers the basics. Then when those people go out with their meaningless papers they'll start selling crap to people. It is amazing how often fitness instructors are completely wrong about what they tell people. It is sad and the only way a "professional" on paper can become a true pro is spending loads of time on a daily basis keeping up with the latest research and educating himself. The paper is meaningless it is only to put on the wall so the clients have the illusion of a true capable someone helping them. To bad the true quality of a true pro can't be put on a paper with the current type of education material. The material is based on a lot of commonly accepted myths concerning health and exercise. Outdated crap which doesn't work in practice.
1) If there are specific questions I'll do my best to answer them.
2) You don't have to do 60mins of steady state cardio from the start. You "diet" for a maximum time of 12 weeks. You do it in stages.
week 1-3: 3-4 days a week 60mins weight training. In this period you spend time getting your eating habits right. You should be able to lose 1-1.5pounds a week without cardio at this stage. And when you do you nutricien and work out intensity are up to par.
Week 5-7: add 15-20mins High intensity interval cardio after each work-out. You'll do cardio, but HIIT will be more efficient then 60mins at a steady pace.
Week 8-12: add 45-60mins of steady state cardio on non work-out days. It is a final step for a short while to get that last bit done.
After that. You can drop cardio and stick with the 60mins working out 3-4 times a week and keep what you have. Like I said. It is hard work to get somewhere, but when you're there it is really easy to maintain it. So...you'll make that investment for a short period of time or not and keep wasting more time then is needed? Time that you could spend on other things to enhance the quality of your life?
3) Doing something is always better then nothing, but when someone has set a goal well...You can't get there with half measures. So a short time explosive burst of all or nothing is needed. It is a relatively short time period to get into shape and it is easy to maintain it after that without have to put as much time and effort into it as you did during that burst.
4)What exercises work most efficiently? What sorts of exercise can I do without a gym membership or equipment? What sorts of home equipment can I get that works?
You need exercises that utilize as much muscle fibers per movement as possible. The more muscle is used the more energy from the body is required. The stronger your muscles the more they'll burn even when not working out. For each pound of muscle you gain you'll burn 20-30more calories without having to do a thing. So in due time you'll have made a way to eat more food without having to worry to get fat straight away.
There are bodyweight exercises. I'm not a fan of them, because you quickly outgrow them and have to find new ways to increase weight resistance and intensity. Eventually you will need a gym membership or buy weights yourself. It can be quite an investment so make sure you have the needed discipline to work out at home instead of being distracted by other things.
Look on youtube to get descriptions for the names listed. You can improvise weights held in your hand by using a crate with full bottles of water or something. Be inventive and creative if you need too ;)
Squat - This is bending your knees. It is a leg and lower back exercise. Your legs make up almost half your body weight so those are large muscles to get to work. You can do this with holding weights in each hand or a barbel with weights placed in your neck. More explosive/cardio oriented versions are to squat down and jump up.
Lunges - you really have to see it since I can't explain it with text only.
1 legged deadlift - This is for the hamstrings
Pull-ups/Chin-ups - I'm sure you're familiar with this. I suggest doing small grip, palms facing you and pulling up. That way you also use your biceps and don't have to train that with an isolation. Even for people who train with lots of weights this is still a basic exercise to do for upper back development. You'll also use shoulders and arms. Increase weights by using a backpack with rocks or something in it.
Push Ups - You can do this with arms wide next to the body. Increase difficulty by pushing yourself from the ground and clapping hands. Or using different heights such as one hand on the floor with another on a 4inch high plank. Use different surfaces such as a soft bedspring with is totally different form a hard solid floor.
Hand Stand Push Ups - More for the shoulders. Since you can't do militairy press this is a good alternative to use your own weight. If you can't do the handstand version yet just place your feet against the wall until you're strong enough.
Plank Holds - Just stick with the push up position but stay still in mid air for as long as possible. This trains your core.
Other things you can do is use a medicine ball or another heavy ball. Lay on the floor and throw it up, catch and repeat. Make a sled and place weights on it. Pull it towards you as fast as possible, run away from it and then pull it towards you again. Great overall body exercise.
As for home equipment if you ever decide to make such a large one time investment (which will pay out if you diligently use it for longer then a year otherwise a gym card is cheaper) would be... A powerrack, a bench, a barbel and lots of weight plates. That is the basics you need to be able to do almost any exercise. You can always expand the collection if that need arises.
5) What sorts of food help the weight stay off? What sorts of food really pack it on?
Stay away from carbohydrates as much as possible, this includes fruits as well. Only eat those with breakfast or after a work-out. Fruits are the fast type of carb's and give big insulin peaks which cause it to be stored as fat faster then being used as an energy source. When you wake up and after a work-out you can safely eat it and the body will use it as energy and turn the body from a catabolic into an anabolic state.
You do need complex carb's during the day, but keep it low. Just have enough so that you don't feel dizzy and don't have headaches. Try to have 100grams a day max if possible. Food sources are wholewheat breads, pasta and starches like oatmeals. Brown Rice of course. Lesser degree potatoes, but those little sweet ones would be the best kind. Another form of carbs you truly need are green vegetables such as spinach, celery, cabbage, broccoli. Try to have 150-200grams a day of it. It'll give you fibers and vitamins and satiate the feeling of hunger easier. They are few calories so easy source to eat loads off.
Proteins are your main source. You can't over do it unlike popular belief. Only problem that could arise is if you never ate a lot of eat and suddenly start doing 300grams a day. The body needs time to adjust so work it up if need be. Good protein sources are fat fish (their fats are also needed), eggwhites, red meats so lots of steaks etc, lean meats such as chicken. Stay away from sausages or anything made from pigs since those also contain the wrong types of fats. Soja is a decent source to have as a change in pace. Cotton Cheese if I translated that correctly.
You also need fats. A lot of people assume that eating fats makes you fat. Well not quite. There are different kinds of fats like saturated, unsaturated, transfats and its sub types. Transfats is everything that is being fried...its pure evil so avoid it this will make you fat. The healthy fats are unsalted nuts such as peanuts and walnuts. Avocado's and olives are good. The fats of a fish are omega fats. Bake with Oliveoil or coconut oil. 60grams are the minimum you need when losing fat. These fats assist in keeping up your hormonal levels. That in turn keeps your body in overall health, no muscle deterioration so that you have less chance on things like arthritis when you're older. And it has a lot more benefits that can be described here. Don't worry about raising it to 110grams a day after you're done losing weight.
When going out for dinner or needing a quick snack. Try to make it a protein/fat meal and avoid carb's if possible. Meats, fish and nuts should provide enough options when going out. Just steer clear from mcdonals, KFC and stuff like that. For simple snacks try to prepare food at home and take it with you in plastic boxes. When you get a craving just eat from that. You at least know that it is good what you eat.
If you eat at an Argentinian restaurant there are meat only dishes...2 weeks ago was funny. The waitress asked what I wanted to order and looked funny when I ordered 3 main courses of meat. The entire order for our table went wrong because it is apparently to complex for them to have 8 main dishes for 5 people.
When you're done losing fat and got where you want to be. Then you can start eating more of every nutrition, but make sure you don't exceed the calories that you also burn that same day otherwise you'll gain fat again.
I don't see myself as doing anything really epic like it sounds like you guys are.
It's nothing epic my friend. I just decided I didn't wanna let life screw with me in any way, and take my life into my own hands, and control it.
Also, some people may perhaps think I posted the above post so I could boast about myself or something. This isn't true. There is a saying, "the good teacher explains, the superior teacher demonstrates, but the great teacher inspires".
And that's what I wanted to achieve with my post, I wanted to inspire you by showing you how someone with an endomorph body type succeeded at losing fat despite how hard it was (and trust me, it's hard, I've seen it) or how a sickly 11 year old who almost died took complete control over his life, and became a semi-professional/professional athlete. I didn't strive to be one, but that's where the road led me. The only thing I really care about is being a good fighter, and being able to defend myself.
So I hope my post was inspiring for you
Edit: Here's s list of foods that are good for you. You can eat these foods in any combination, but make sure your every meal (or at least most meals) contains protein and healthy fats, as well as complex carbs.
chicken breast
chicken meat in general
turkey breast
turkey meat in general (breasts are the good stuff)
potatoes, boiled
brocoli
fruits, but as falstyr said not too much of it, insulin spikes are bad
leafy greens, I hate them but I eat them
whole grain bread
brown rice
These are some of the foods that are healthy and good for you.
You need to count your calories. You don't need an exact number but knowing approximately how much you ate is important. Try google, and you can easily find a list of foods, and the number of calories it contains. It's very easy to find and trust me, keeping track of your calories isn't that hard. Simply write up the foods on a piece of paper, next to them the number of calories they contain, and when you wanna make a meal, simply take a quick look at that little piece of paper and "wing it". That is to say, estimate the number of calories you are about to eat. Around 400 calories or so per meal should be good for you, I reckon.
Don't expect the fat to come off easily, it takes some time.
I meant to write more, but falstyr really gave you good advice, there are not many things I could write.
A lot of your advice I actually was following already, but a good portion will be most useful, so again I thank you.
2) You don't have to do 60mins of steady state cardio from the start. You "diet" for a maximum time of 12 weeks. You do it in stages.
week 1-3: 3-4 days a week 60mins weight training. In this period you spend time getting your eating habits right. You should be able to lose 1-1.5pounds a week without cardio at this stage. And when you do you nutricien and work out intensity are up to par.
Week 5-7: add 15-20mins High intensity interval cardio after each work-out. You'll do cardio, but HIIT will be more efficient then 60mins at a steady pace.
Week 8-12: add 45-60mins of steady state cardio on non work-out days. It is a final step for a short while to get that last bit done.
The diet I was on was really lacking an exercise plan, and this looks like a good one to follow so I'll definitely make an attempt to follow it as well as I can.
I should ask, is it important that the HIIT be immediately after the 60 minutes of weight training?
After that. You can drop cardio and stick with the 60mins working out 3-4 times a week and keep what you have. Like I said. It is hard work to get somewhere, but when you're there it is really easy to maintain it. So...you'll make that investment for a short period of time or not and keep wasting more time then is needed? Time that you could spend on other things to enhance the quality of your life?
In other words, when I'm not fat anymore I don't have to jog to keep it off, just keep going to the gym to keep my muscle tone up. Makes sense. I do know having muscle burns calories so I won't need cardio beyond keeping my heart in good condition.
3) Doing something is always better then nothing, but when someone has set a goal well...You can't get there with half measures. So a short time explosive burst of all or nothing is needed. It is a relatively short time period to get into shape and it is easy to maintain it after that without have to put as much time and effort into it as you did during that burst.
Fair enough. Get it over with so it's easier later.
There are bodyweight exercises. I'm not a fan of them, because you quickly outgrow them and have to find new ways to increase weight resistance and intensity. Eventually you will need a gym membership or buy weights yourself. It can be quite an investment so make sure you have the needed discipline to work out at home instead of being distracted by other things.
I actually fear I am hitting this level on certain exercises.
Look on youtube to get descriptions for the names listed. You can improvise weights held in your hand by using a crate with full bottles of water or something. Be inventive and creative if you need too ;)
I think I'll just have to get a gym membership. I think there might be a gym which is open 24/7 near here according to my brother.
Squat - This is bending your knees. It is a leg and lower back exercise. Your legs make up almost half your body weight so those are large muscles to get to work. You can do this with holding weights in each hand or a barbel with weights placed in your neck. More explosive/cardio oriented versions are to squat down and jump up.
Been doing these. They are part of the Wii fit regiment actually. They have become a bit too easy I think so I'll have to get some weights for when I am doing them.
The bonus of Wii fit though is that it measures center of balance, so I think Ill have good form if I start doing them with weights.
Lunges - you really have to see it since I can't explain it with text only.
Ah yes....lunges. We've met. They are also on the Wii fit list of exercises.
First time doing them they ached a bit after the workout. Then I went to bed. Then when I woke up in the morning and tried to move my legs I could very well have screamed if I was a lesser man.
I called in sick to work and stayed off my legs all day.
From my weightlifting experience years ago I learned the first couple of workouts will leave you aching and pleading with some higher power to make the pain stop the day after you do them. After that your body adjusts and it stops happening.
So yeah Ive been doing lunges. When I do them I do 20 lunges on each leg. For the record, no I don't end up skipping work afterwords that was a one time deal.
1 legged deadlift - This is for the hamstrings
Looked this one up. That is definitely a new one to me. Ill need some weights for it though.
Pull-ups/Chin-ups - I'm sure you're familiar with this. I suggest doing small grip, palms facing you and pulling up. That way you also use your biceps and don't have to train that with an isolation. Even for people who train with lots of weights this is still a basic exercise to do for upper back development. You'll also use shoulders and arms. Increase weights by using a backpack with rocks or something in it.
Little problem, I'm relatively certain I can't do even 1 chin up. At least not in my current condition.
Push Ups - You can do this with arms wide next to the body. Increase difficulty by pushing yourself from the ground and clapping hands. Or using different heights such as one hand on the floor with another on a 4inch high plank. Use different surfaces such as a soft bedspring with is totally different form a hard solid floor.
Ah, the traditional push up.
These are also on the Wii fit regiment, but under "Push up and side plank"
Seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGqZONsnZa8
I slightly modify it as the balance board that is used is
A. slightly raised, and
B. Wasn't quite wide enough for me to rest my hands comfortably, so I turned my hands 90 degrees out and instead gripped the side of the board. I realize this probably works different muscle groups, but I really could care less as it made the exercise more comfortable and regardless I ended with my arms tired enough.
Hand Stand Push Ups - More for the shoulders. Since you can't do militairy press this is a good alternative to use your own weight. If you can't do the handstand version yet just place your feet against the wall until you're strong enough.
These definitely sound more extreme. If I find I can do these I'll know I've come a long way.
I will have to make sure I use a wall no one cares about though.
Plank Holds - Just stick with the push up position but stay still in mid air for as long as possible. This trains your core.
Also on the Wii fit regiment. I currently am at 60 seconds when I do that exercise.
Other things you can do is use a medicine ball or another heavy ball. Lay on the floor and throw it up, catch and repeat. Make a sled and place weights on it. Pull it towards you as fast as possible, run away from it and then pull it towards you again. Great overall body exercise.
I suddenly have images of Rocky in Rocky 4 when training.
As for home equipment if you ever decide to make such a large one time investment (which will pay out if you diligently use it for longer then a year otherwise a gym card is cheaper) would be... A powerrack, a bench, a barbel and lots of weight plates. That is the basics you need to be able to do almost any exercise. You can always expand the collection if that need arises.
Right now my problem with getting anything is space. I am not even kidding. I wish I was. I literally have a problem with space since there is too much crap that certain members of my family refuse to get rid of. The Wii fit board only works because it can be moved out of the way easily.
When I move out this will probably be made easier.
Hell when I move out I might get some people willing to spot me in roommates.
Stay away from carbohydrates as much as possible, this includes fruits as well. Only eat those with breakfast or after a work-out. Fruits are the fast type of carb's and give big insulin peaks which cause it to be stored as fat faster then being used as an energy source. When you wake up and after a work-out you can safely eat it and the body will use it as energy and turn the body from a catabolic into an anabolic state.
I'll remember that. Normally I try to eat an apple with lunch, but if you are correct I should stop that. Instead I guess I will add some nuts.
You do need complex carb's during the day, but keep it low. Just have enough so that you don't feel dizzy and don't have headaches. Try to have 100grams a day max if possible. Food sources are wholewheat breads, pasta and starches like oatmeals. Brown Rice of course. Lesser degree potatoes, but those little sweet ones would be the best kind. Another form of carbs you truly need are green vegetables such as spinach, celery, cabbage, broccoli. Try to have 150-200grams a day of it. It'll give you fibers and vitamins and satiate the feeling of hunger easier. They are few calories so easy source to eat loads off.
Ugh, that will suck. Not a fan of celery, but oddly enough I love broccoli.
I can do with the whole wheat thing. Not as tasty as white bread, but feels more filling, which I think is important for a meal.
Proteins are your main source. You can't over do it unlike popular belief. Only problem that could arise is if you never ate a lot of eat and suddenly start doing 300grams a day. The body needs time to adjust so work it up if need be. Good protein sources are fat fish (their fats are also needed), eggwhites, red meats so lots of steaks etc, lean meats such as chicken. Stay away from sausages or anything made from pigs since those also contain the wrong types of fats. Soja is a decent source to have as a change in pace. Cotton Cheese if I translated that correctly.
Well if I gotta eat meat, I'll do it. For my own good!
:D
For breakfast I often do a trick of making eggs which are 4 egg whites and 1 yolk. Retains the flavor mostly with only 1/4 the fat and bad stuff.
That and an apple sound like a good start.
Cottage Cheese is what you were looking for.
You also need fats. A lot of people assume that eating fats makes you fat. Well not quite. There are different kinds of fats like saturated, unsaturated, transfats and its sub types. Transfats is everything that is being fried...its pure evil so avoid it this will make you fat. The healthy fats are unsalted nuts such as peanuts and walnuts. Avocado's and olives are good. The fats of a fish are omega fats. Bake with Oliveoil or coconut oil. 60grams are the minimum you need when losing fat. These fats assist in keeping up your hormonal levels. That in turn keeps your body in overall health, no muscle deterioration so that you have less chance on things like arthritis when you're older. And it has a lot more benefits that can be described here. Don't worry about raising it to 110grams a day after you're done losing weight.
I have been eating a lot of tuna fish. I do mix it with mayo, which is bad, but it is a low fat mayo and actually is mixed with olive oil, which I just got for the flavor. I didn't realize it would actually be helpful for the diet.
I guess I will have to buy some more nuts. I'm guessing I should avoid cashews, I heard those are bad somewhere. I love walnuts though.
When going out for dinner or needing a quick snack. Try to make it a protein/fat meal and avoid carb's if possible. Meats, fish and nuts should provide enough options when going out. Just steer clear from mcdonals, KFC and stuff like that. For simple snacks try to prepare food at home and take it with you in plastic boxes. When you get a craving just eat from that. You at least know that it is good what you eat.
I have avoided anything fried (sans free days) completely since December.
I'm going to guess you are going to say beans are bad. Darn, there went any hopes of going for a burrito during a normal (non-free) day. (Burritos aren't actually that bad for you if you don't get them at a grease pit like taco bell and don't put cheese on them)
When you're done losing fat and got where you want to be. Then you can start eating more of every nutrition, but make sure you don't exceed the calories that you also burn that same day otherwise you'll gain fat again.
Thanks for the advice. Total I have taken from it is that I will be changing the composition of my meals to favor protein over carbs, add more good fats to my diet through nuts and other good sources, and get myself started with a gym membership or some form of weight training.
I will be keeping the 6 meals a day plan. The energy bars I eat actually have a lot of protein in them. I think I will switch to the Myoplex bars instead of the Clif bars, as they have 26g of carbs in them instead of 44.
I will still keep my free days. I know you might not like the concept, but to me I feel that they give me a chance to really relax. I don''t really have very many activities that give me real pleasure, just a couple of D&D sessions every weekend. I don't have a girlfriend, or a social life, or even a video game that keeps me really looking forward to anything. Those weekend days where I can just do what I want are really the best things for my mind. The free day allows me to enjoy it more thoroughly. If it means I have to do the diet somewhat longer, so be it. At least it means I won't quit the diet.
What are your feelings on cheeses and dairy? I have been avoiding cheese pretty much all the time.
(breasts are the good stuff)
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It's what I use because I do not have the space for anything else really, you don't need a ton of weights either (just enough to feel the burn and do reps with.).
My present workout consists of 15-20 minutes of cardio, and 20-30 minutes of weight training. I work out every day which is probably on the "don't do it list" but my job isn't exactly physically demanding presently. I do change the amount of weight that I work with though from day to day (I only put on all of the weight once a week and about 50lbs every 3 days. the other three days I generally only have 30) I also do a little bit of work out throughout the day. It seems to work for me in maintaining my fitness level.
Hang Cleans are one of my favorites, followed by overhead press, benchpress, good mornings, and bent over rows, I also do Leg press, Squats and weighted sit ups. Legs, and the Core are the most important for muscle growth, and stability.
If you're up for it you could even do 4min tabata's instead, but those will kill you hehe. You take an exercise like squat or thrusters and load it with a weight that you can do 30ish proper repetitions with. Then the fun begins. For 20seconds you have to go as many reps and as fast as you can, 10sec rest and repeat till 4 mins are filled. If you do more or less repetitions in that short burst then 8-14 then change the weight appropriately. Like I said...it'll kill you, but the results are great and it sure saves time :P
When you reached your goal you don't really have to jog nor do any cardio. If you work-out explosively with the weights you will have enough conditioning. But you can throw in some short HIIT sessions if you want more stamina.
Muscle ache rarely is a measurement of muscle growth unlike many believe. Muscle ache is that you have the muscles perform in a way it isn't used to. You put unknown stress on them which means that they have to adjust. If you switch training regimes regularly you will have muscle ache regularly even if you're an experienced lifter you will have it to some degree. It hurts. I never have had upper back muscle aches. Then I started performing Clean & Jerks from weightlifters. I couldn't move for a week lol.
Space sucks when living with others. Thankfully I live on my own. Turned my study into a home gym. I can't stand working out at a gym. There are so many flawed executions that I'd rather walk around all the time correcting it. Not to mention the load of comments you get when actually squating in the powerrack instead of barbel curling for biceps.
4 eggs and an apple that's about 500calories. Decent breakfast. Personally I'd recommend complex carbs and the fruit with a bit of protein. Like oatmeal with blueberries and a protein shake kind of idea. Then again if you make the oatmeal with milk instead of water you'll have some protein. Then the next meal protein/fat distribution with no carbs. Try to time the carbohydrates with breakfast and the meal before you start exercising. This way your body will actually use what you give instead of store it.
Mayo comes in a lot of shapes. The more natural variants aren't bad. In fact...if you don't eat any other fat source you can eat 1 spoon of mayo or peanut butter per day to fill that need. Salmon is a great fish to eat as well by the way.
Losing weight doesn't mean you have to eat crappy tasteless junk. It will however make you more aware of what you eat and what nutrients can be found in what food source. Don't use salts for that will retain too much water and you get enough daily salt from whole wheat breads and such products. After a while your taste buds will re-adjust and re-learn what true flavor is. Using loads of spices and getting creative in the kitchen. I feel a new hobby coming up for you ;)
Free weekends without cardio/workouts. Sure no problem your muscles need the rest to recuperate. Only thing you have to do is make sure you don't overdo the snacking and such.
Dairy products. Well during the '70s there was an overload on dairy, well at least over here there was. So commerce made propaganda with lies about dairy being good for calcium and bone strenght just to sell the abundance which was there. Same like popeye with spinach..except that it is good for you but not so dramatically hehe. Dairy products, believe it or not, are relatively poor choices of protein. Relatively it has very little protein and a fair amount of carbs/fats. It also makes it so that your body retains dairy fluids under your skin which keeps the skin "greasy". This is not bad because it'll reduce risk of stretchmarks keeping the skin fibers more flexible/elastic. Dairy products in moderation is good. I use about 300mililiters every other day of milk, but eat about 2x 500grams of cotton cheese a day.
Another dairy product...chocolate milk. When bulking (gaining size and muscle) it is quite a good product to have before and after a work-out.
Cheeses can be good. They are a fat source with some protein. And it isn't the great kind of fat, but not the worst either. It's ok to have from time to time. For students...well just use it. Otherwise keep it to a minimum. When putting stuff on bread you need to look out for the sweet stuff like syrups/yams since they are full of sugars.
When exercising. Keep it challenging. You often see/hear guys saying they can do 200-500push ups/pull ups or whatever, but their physique often sucks. There is a limit when it no longer pays off to increase repetitions and you have to add weights.
I also belief that buying a kitchen weight scale and following a nutritional plan for a while help. Most people think they're eating 200grams of meat per meal and gauge it by sight. When they put it on the scale it is suddenly 450-500grams. Using a scale and nutritional plan will help you learn to gauge the amounts properly. After that winging it becomes easier and easier. These days I just have a global plan in my head for the day and wing it, except the times when strictly dieting down. I weigh it to the grams.
@Cpt Micha
You make valid points. With db's that allow you to switch plates on them will also allow you to do a lot of exercises. But some like DB Deadlifts are annoying to do and good mornings can't be done with them at all.
As for needed weights that depends on the trainee. If I'd use 85pounds total I wouldn't even be warmed up no matter how many reps I'd do. But you don't have to start with buying thousands of pounds of weights. That collection will grow at the same rate you do. Starting off with an olympic set works great for most people. You get a barbel and 300pounds in various plates. These you can use for any exercise you want. If you get another barbel or db's then you have enough weights to do super sets. 2 exercises after one another without any rest in between.
You do the entire body with compound exercises. If you do it with sufficient weight and keep rest intervals short you'll do just fine. Clean & Press are great burners. They also make sure that you stay explosive.
Agreed on the Dbs you can add or take away weight from. Those things are god sends, and compliment my tricep bar perfectly (they also gave me more weights to put on my tricep bar).
I also do it in a small room, when the AC is not on. (so that I burn more fat and calories) I think that helps tremendously too.
I heard that you shouldn't eat for 30 minutes after your training is done because you'll burn more fat that way. Is that true?
I do however belief in 45mins before working out a sturdy meal consisting of complex carbs and proteins. Right after Protein/dextro shake so that I got protein and carbs that my body can quickly absorb. 45-60mins after work out another sturdy meal without fats. Fats 2hours time frame after workout will slow down protein synthesis in the body. Dextro are fast carbs so that the body goes from catabolic into anabolic state.
If I work out late at night I skip carbs in the meal after the workout. Only some protein then and off to bed.
A lot of people eat carbohydrates late at night. Try not to eat that after dinner.
Working out in a warm room is not smart. Makes the air heavier and can cause trouble breathing. If you loose something it'll be fluids not fat. And fluids get replenished anyhow. Same reason sauna's don't make you lose fat. They do open pores so that you can lose junk in the skin. Same reason why putting a plastic sack around your body will make you lose useless fluids and not fat. Only people who find it interesting too lose 8-10pounds of weight before a match are boxers and the like. But all they lose are fluids which they gain back easily between the moment of weighing and the actual fight. A nice trick to use if you're just over a weight limit to participate in a certain weight class ;)
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Lol indeed
It seems that falstyr has more will than me to write up good advice for you. He's given it all to you on a silver plate, basically, I can add nothing. I'd imagine not even his clients get this much advice this fast (actually, I know they don't).
Go for it stealth, you have your knowledge, now just apply it!
I know you can do it friend.Until then, just the diet mainly.
Oh and I weighed myself this morning. 246.5 pounds. New low.
GO STEALTH GO Fix'd. ;) :P
Well I have more or less decided to do the gym thing, this weekend I will be heading with my brother to the gym so we can sign me up for a membership. He was glad for that since he has been going a few times and was unable to do weights because of a lack of a spotter.
Until then, just the diet mainly.
Oh and I weighed myself this morning. 246.5 pounds. New low.
Grats friend
Btw, lack of a spotter? Is he alone in the gym or something? I realize that a lot of people can't spot properly (I had this one guy who was holding the barbell the entire time while I was benching, it was terrible...) but that there isn't even one who can do it...doesn't sound like there are many real lifters there.
But I hope you'll be a good spotter for him. Just don't hold the barbell unless he, for some reason, asks you to.
Grats on deciding to join a gym, trust me it'll help.
Btw, lack of a spotter? Is he alone in the gym or something?
It is entirely possible, he goes at like 3AM. (both of us are night shift people.)
As for motivation. Use short term and long term goals you set for yourself. Short term as in losing x inches/pounds this week. Keeps you more focused on something tangible which you don't have to wait too long to reach.
What I also wanted to say is...try to avoid pre-made sauces from cans/jars. Try to make them yourselves. It tastes better and its healthier most of of the time.
It is entirely possible, he goes at like 3AM. (both of us are night shift people.)
I see, I didn't know you had gyms open that late. In croatia, no gym is ever opened at night. Man it must be awesome to have gym that's open in that hour. I could train for like hours
I hate spotters. Most "help" when they're not supposed to or touch the bar so that it gets unbalanced. Just having someone nearby also makes me lose my focus. No matter how high the weight...I don't want a spotter. Especially when squatting.
Um, but what if you don't manage to lift the weight when benching? Squatting doesn't require a spotter anyway, if the weight is too heavy, just throw the bar down...
But if you're benching a really heavy weight, or attempting a personal record or something, it's good to have a spotter. If you're always lifting the same weight, that's another thing (because you're sure you can lift it).
But yeah I agree a lot of them don't know how to spot. I know a lot of guys in my gym who know how to spot properly so thankfully, I don't have to be afraid that something will go wrong.
Wait till you hit 200 and less. You might get depressed and feeling so small and ickle that you cry. At least I do and so do many others. It makes me feel pathetically weak and small and girly man like. And worse of all...it makes me look like those pathetic beach boy's.
Any man who has 15% or more bodyfat and has less then a 1200pound total powerlift weight is a girl. or so the saying goes hehe
@Monkey
I prefer no spotters, even when benching. Up to 300pounds can be rolled off. And there are safety bars that can catch the weight if need be.
Squat - 485lbs
Deadlift - 620lbs
Bench Press - 375lbs
Total = 1420lbs Total
@Monkey
I prefer no spotters, even when benching. Up to 300pounds can be rolled off. And there are safety bars that can catch the weight if need be.
Monkey? What the hell lol
In that case, I guess you're right, no need for a spotter. My gym has good equipment, but it's not really state of the art or anything, we don't have those at our gym
We don't have such good stuff at my gym either, but I train at home. Only for cardio and work I go to the gym.
And just to show the marmot isn't alone on this. I just measured up today. Lost 6-7pounds in 2 weeks time without loss of muscle mass. 7 more weeks to go :D
Sorry was going by memory Monkey ;)
We don't have such good stuff at my gym either, but I train at home. Only for cardio and work I go to the gym.
And just to show the marmot isn't alone on this. I just measured up today. Lost 6-7pounds in 2 weeks time without loss of muscle mass. 7 more weeks to go :D
Ooh I see, it's quite alright, I was just never got called that so it was kinda odd
I do my cardio on a running track, thankfully there's an olympic track near where I live. Thank god I don't have to run on concrete.
That's good weight loss for 2 weeks. Shows you aren't messing around with your training and diet.
243.8 pounds.
Total weight lost since start: 19.7 pounds.
Today is my free day so obviously it will be different tomorrow, but that is one nice weight to be on.
Oh and I first noticed something that made me very proud.
The Wii fit meter when measuring starts from underweight, goes to normal, and then overweight, then obese and based on your BMI it measures you. When I first weighed myself, I weighed so much that it actually hit the top and maxed out. Apparently it stopes somewhere around 35.25 BMI.
I finally bottomed out at under 35 BMI and no longer max out the meter. It might not seem like much, since I am still near the top and clearly in obese territory, but for me it is a victory.
I really want to thank everyone here for their support and advice (Even when you were a bit blunt)
Were it not for your constant cheering, I doubt I would have made it this far. I get bored and frustrated easily, and very easily distracted. Your help was inspiring, but most of all it was supportive. Keeping me on task, by keeping it fun. That's a great help.
Maybe I could have made it this far without you, maybe not, but it would not have been NEARLY as fun as you guys have made it.
First off the BMI. Throw it out the window. It is full of flaws and is very incorrect. Those who use it claim that it doesn't work for sporters, but it does for the average people. But it does not. If it would work...it would work for everyone. My BMI is be around 48 hehe. I should be dead by now :P
This is why measuring bodyfat is far more accurate to asses your current state. Only problem with that are the various devices used to measure. Electric weight scales that also measure bodyfat are incorrect. They're off by a lot and not accurate in the least. Pinching the skinfolds at 7 different points to calculate the bodyfat is far more accurate. Only downside with that is it doesn't measure the fat around your organs. When your bodyfat gets to high the body won't store the fat on the body any more, but around the organs and start to suffocate them. The most accurate measurement is the DEKA system which you can do at local hospitals. It's like an x-ray machine that also tells you the amount of fluid retention, bone density etc.
Second is that when you have a lot of bodyfat too lose you'll lose it fast. The closer you'll get to your ideal weight the slower you'll start losing fat. Thus the more strict you have to become. Until 15-18% you don't have to be very strict. Just eat clean foods as mentioned in previews posts. Also with the amount of overweight you seem to have be careful with cardio. When running you'll put a lot of force on the knees and that could cause trouble and joint pains in the long run. Walking at a steady pace or bike riding or crosstrainer at the gym would be much better for the time being. I wouldn't run until you're near 22-24% bodyfat.
Also try NEPA activities. These are simple. Park your car a bit further then normal and walk the distance. Take the stairs instead of the elevators etc. Those small things will add up to a lot.
You're getting there man!
*Grumbles as I start my morning work out routine*
I see, I didn't know you had gyms open that late. In croatia, no gym is ever opened at night. Man it must be awesome to have gym that's open in that hour. I could train for like hours
Yeah, some places have 24 hour gyms. Wish I lived near one. Although the rec room where I go is open pretty early.
I have a good friend who's been obese since middle school. Never could lose weight, whatever diets and exercises he tried, and most people assumed him another result of too much junk food as a child. Recently he discovered that he has a golfball sized tumor in his brain, squashing his pituitary gland and preventing him from losing weight. Go figure.
Thanks so much. This is very inspiring and completely on topic.
Yeah, some places have 24 hour gyms. Wish I lived near one. Although the rec room where I go is open pretty early.
I should try talking to the gym owner into extending the hours lol. A few new gyms have opened in my city now, so maybe those have better hours, may be worth checking them out.
I have a good friend who's been obese since middle school. Never could lose weight, whatever diets and exercises he tried, and most people assumed him another result of too much junk food as a child. Recently he discovered that he has a golfball sized tumor in his brain, squashing his pituitary gland and preventing him from losing weight. Go figure.
Man, that's just not right. What did the doctors say, will he live? I had a relative with brain tumor, he died in 6 months after they discovered it. Of course, I hope your friend has a chance. Sorry to hear this. I've been there myself.
I went to the store for some new gym clothing because almost all of my pants are jeans or cackies, and I decided to pick up a pair of cacky shorts just to see something.
When I first started I was wearing a 38 waist which was tight or a 40 waist which was loose. These were pretty old jeans that I think were stretched somewhat.
Recently I have been wearing a belt real tight because they started feeling real loose. So I got a pair of new 36 waist cackies. They are almost perfect fitting (just a smidge tight, but that might be the fact that I'm used to such loose fits.)
Having to buy new clothes because you lost weight is a pain, but it's a happy pain. Sort of like setting up a new game system you just bought. It might be a chore, but you are just so happy doing it.
Edit: I also purchased my gym membership. Lucky break, they had a no signup fee deal going on for their more premium version which works at any Planet Fitness, so if/when I move I don't have to buy another membership, just have to find a closer Planet Fitness.
2) Yes theres a genetic disorder about it I Have it.
3) Diets work differntly for people
4) Fat people tend to enjoy life alot more and tend to think about stuff more.
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I didnt mean anything i wasnt hear i dont take advantage of other people at all Not EVER! :D
Thanks for the cheers.
3) Diets work differntly for people
4) Fat people tend to enjoy life alot more and tend to think about stuff more.
Not sure if you're being serious of part of the post, but still those two are ********.
Everyone who uses a diet is eating wrong. 9 out of 10 diets are crash diets for lazy bastards who wear eye pads. Focused on losing weight not understanding the composition of body and the different types of mass it has. People who diet will lose weight fast, but they will look like a smaller flabby version then before. And when they stop such flawed diets they will gain weight fast again and end up being fatter then before.
A proper diet isn't called a diet. It is an eating regime where you eat the amount of calories your body needs minus 500. And that is more then most people eat to begin with. Weird but true...for 95% of the world population they are fat because they under eat, not because they over eat. They under eat because they eat foods which contain calories but have little to no real useful nutrients that the body can use. Proper loss of weight takes time if you want to keep it away.
The only difference with people is Nutrigenomics. The DNA stating the severity in which people react to certain nutrients. So for some a strict proper eating regime works better then others due to this...but it still works.
As for statement 4 that chubby people enjoy life more and such...right... Body composition and social/personality development are entwined with one another. Don't make me laugh. There are more then enough bitter intellectually challenged fat bastards as there are lean morons with an attitude. Actually I dare to make the statement that people who sport/exercise regularly enjoy life more then fat people. Why? Scientifically speaking regular exercise will release more of the happy hormone. Fat bastards can only increase their happy hormone by eating loads of pure chocolate bars. And even that will only give a temporal increase of being happy.
Enjoying life. How is that measured? Amount of friends and social interaction? That depends on personality and the environment an individual is active in. Or is it more business success? Because there healthy and lean people will use their discipline to stick to exercise/nutritional regimes in business to reach new levels of success. Heck the teachings when standing under the iron is applicable in every aspect of life. Standing up to the plate and letting actions speak louder. Having several 100pounds on the bar will make you a humble person. Gravity isn't forgiving if you make 1 mistake.
As for fatso's being better thinkers. Sure... Maybe in the era when there were still class differences suck as Jocks and Pencil Neck Nerds. But these days you have people of every "class" that trains to stay healthy and in shape. Fatso's are more and more turning into outcasts.
I know that exercising releases a happy hormone, so saying that is kinda ironic lol.
People also don't understand other benefits of exercising, such as discipline, like you said. The lessons you learn in the gym or a martial arts class can be applied to every aspect of life, it's just sad that people dismiss these things so easily.
I know you're a personal trainer, but still try to be less harsh. You may be that way with your clients (and you should be), but take it down a notch here
Back on topic. The back injury and stuff. You need to be careful with that. You can't just put such people under a bar and have them squat or deadlift. But people should work up to those basic compound exercises as fast as possible. What I do is assessing the individual. You need to look at their posture and joint mobility and learn about the defects/injuries/medical conditions that the person might have. Then you make a several step program that will fix their shortcomings while learning proper technique with low weights...or no weights at all.
I mean. Most people are very stiff. They sit most of the day so their hip mobility and such is awful. Also when you see how people sit down in a chair or get out of a chair it is more like falling then actually sitting down. They can't do proper parallel leveled squats, nor can they sit back properly to deadlift. The stress on their lower back will cause poor execution of the exercise and increase chance of hernia and slipped discs. Not healthy at all. So don't underestimate Foam Rolling and static stretching as warming up prior to each work-out.
Also your reply made me want to tell the following.
1 client had medical conditions in her back. She was underweight and always had pains here and there, pains in their stomach etc. A friend of hers had the same. Both had different outlook on how to deal with it. The client decided to ignore what the doctors said and is now pain and ailment free. Her friend is in a wheelchair and accepted what the doctor said without fighting for her own well being.
She had to eat 4x as much as she normally did. Her metabolism was fast and she just ate poorly. Her body didn't have enough nutrients and thus started a shut down of organs to maintain itself as good as possible with the little energy sustenance provided. When she started eating at least half of her pains disapeared. But her body had fed itself on her muscle tissue so moving around for a long period was hell. Mild bodyweight exercises 3x a week for 10-15mins is what we began with. Then we added swimming and slowly worked our way up. Now she has a gym pass and works with weights and looks them good and strong again :D
I went alone cause my brother was too lazy to come tonight.
My membership was pending so I had to explain my being there to the person who checked people in. (She was actually quite cool about it).
My membership hadnt come through so only by the grace of the lady at the check in was I let in.
I had no regemine, so I was pretty much wandering around aimlessly.
I had no idea about my upper max load so I was winging it with every exercise.
My form was sloppy.
I was awkward with the people there.
I had forgotten how painful doing weight training exercise and pushing yourself can be and was painfully reminded.
I had no spotter so I was stuck with machines.
I just remembered that I forgot to stretch.
I overdid it and ended up kneeling to the porcelein god.
I had to lie down for 15 minutes just to get myself in a state where I could walk and then drive.
I'm covered in the salty remains of sweat, my body is starting to ache, and I am sure tomorrow is going to be hell on me because my muscles will ache with the pain of a thousand suns (par for the course when it comes to the first time exercising after years of not)
And I only got 40-45 minutes of actual time in, and a lot of that was probably wandering, so it was closer to 30 minutes actual exercising.
So, yeah. I'm definitely going back the day after tomorrow. Hell it can only go uphill from that!
Edit: Yeah, that was more of a learning experience than anything else. Hopefully I did enough so that I fell all the pain now and the next exercise session I actually walk out feeling good instead of the pains of breaking your muscles in.
Back on topic. The back injury and stuff. You need to be careful with that. You can't just put such people under a bar and have them squat or deadlift. But people should work up to those basic compound exercises as fast as possible. What I do is assessing the individual. You need to look at their posture and joint mobility and learn about the defects/injuries/medical conditions that the person might have. Then you make a several step program that will fix their shortcomings while learning proper technique with low weights...or no weights at all.
I mean. Most people are very stiff. They sit most of the day so their hip mobility and such is awful. Also when you see how people sit down in a chair or get out of a chair it is more like falling then actually sitting down. They can't do proper parallel leveled squats, nor can they sit back properly to deadlift. The stress on their lower back will cause poor execution of the exercise and increase chance of hernia and slipped discs. Not healthy at all. So don't underestimate Foam Rolling and static stretching as warming up prior to each work-out.
I know my mom's condition, and I'm pretty sure she could do a lot. She just believes everything the doctor says, sadly. I don't believe all too much in doctors, I believe more in training and keeping myself healthy. When I had my first seizure at the age of 11, we consulted a doctor, who, in all her wisdom, decided that "my mother and me were just halucinating and that the seizure never really happened and that I was ok". Several days and a near death experience later, she believed :P
So yeah...I've read a lot of books on fitness, nutrition, health, martial arts, weightlifting etc, decided to take my health into my own hands. The last time I really needed a doctor was when I had epilepsy, but otherwise I've never really been sick, thanks to my training. May have had a cold or two, and high temperature but that was rare. It's been over 6 years now since the last time I was sick. I always consult a doctor, because more opinions are always welcome, but I take my health into my hands, because no one really cares about my health as much as I do, so IMO, I'm the right person to take care of any problem I might have.
Also your reply made me want to tell the following.
1 client had medical conditions in her back. She was underweight and always had pains here and there, pains in their stomach etc. A friend of hers had the same. Both had different outlook on how to deal with it. The client decided to ignore what the doctors said and is now pain and ailment free. Her friend is in a wheelchair and accepted what the doctor said without fighting for her own well being.
She had to eat 4x as much as she normally did. Her metabolism was fast and she just ate poorly. Her body didn't have enough nutrients and thus started a shut down of organs to maintain itself as good as possible with the little energy sustenance provided. When she started eating at least half of her pains disapeared. But her body had fed itself on her muscle tissue so moving around for a long period was hell. Mild bodyweight exercises 3x a week for 10-15mins is what we began with. Then we added swimming and slowly worked our way up. Now she has a gym pass and works with weights and looks them good and strong again
That's what I'm talking about. How many doctors do you know that know about, and can appreciate, the benefits of compound exercises, or other lifts? And how many do you know that have done these exercises themselves, for long periods of time (I'm talking years here). Very, very few, sadly.
And then when they say you can't exercise, the patients believe. MY mom's doctor got my mom totally convinced that she should, under no circumstance, lift weights...I'm not saying pack on a hundred lbs...for chirst's sake. we have STICKS at our gym that weigh less than lifting belt. She could use that for deadlifts and squats, eventually move on to the woman's olympic bar, and the progress gradually from there.
I'm glad to hear that out of the 2 people you had, at least one is in good shape
It probably took hard work but she got there. When the body starts feeding itself with muscle tissue, that's a seriously bad sign. People start to look terrible, and they don't even realize it. There was this one girl in high school, wasn't overweight, just had some extra pounds but wanted to get rid of them. Went on a typical low calorie diet. Consumed very little calories. then the typical story ensued. Body feeds itself on muscle. She loses weight, looks terrible (no one wanted to say it to her face, sadly...), then regains weight, and she weighed more than before.I have a moto of my own - Training heals.
I'm covered in the salty remains of sweat, my body is starting to ache, and I am sure tomorrow is going to be hell on me because my muscles will ache with the pain of a thousand suns (par for the course when it comes to the first time exercising after years of not)
It's called muscle fever, it's a sign your body is adapting and developing. I personally love it, though for a beginner it may not be a pleasant experience.
You should looks up some training programs based on compound exercises. Deadlifts, bench presses, squats. Pull ups, rows etc.
Tech support. We laze around a lot. Why? Because with the type of people we put up with, we deserve it.
Just so you know, we don't get mad if you don't know much aabout computers. That isn't your job. We don't get mad if you didn't reboot. That comes up so little it's actually a novelty if it does and entertains us. Stupidity alone will not gain our ire.
Arrogance will. I don't care if you are a fortune 500 business person, a Cisco certified professional, a computer programmer or Bill frelling GATES. You get the same treatment and suggestions. Why? Cause even the smart people can miss the obvious.
Oh and 3 things:
1. Until you specifically told us you did something, we will assume you did not. So tell us everything you tried already, and don't get mad at us if we suggested something you already tried but failed to mention to us.
2. If we ask you to do something, don't just say "I did that." Thats tells us nothing. Tell us what HAPPENED when you did it. If there was no change, tell us. We can't assume.
3. Be in front of the computer/game/item having the issue when contacting technical support. Don't laugh, this is more common than you think. "My game gets an error when I try to play it." "What does the error say?" "I dont know." "Well run the game and tell me." "Oh I don't have it in front of me. I'm at work right now." I get one of these calls at least once a week.
Well if you don't want to do any work at your job, neither do we.
Sorry I got off on a rant.
Other reason to start simple is to prepare your muscles and...uhm what is it called in english...the stuff that connects the muscle tissue to the bones. Those need to be prepared for the work to come. If you over do it there will be tears and increase risk of injury down the road.
A basic sample routine for the first few weeks could be:
Squats
Romanian deadlift
Chin ups
Bent over barbell row
Bench press
Standing military press
Shrugs
Side raise
Sitting calf raise
Triceps extensions
Dumbell curl
Hanging leg raise
2 or 3 sets with 12-15repetitions. Focus on technique instead of the weights used. Low weights can be remedied with 30sec. rest intervals between sets en 45-60secs between exercise change. Just start and see how far you can get
No need to worry about max loads for the first few weeks. When your body is awake...then some progressive loading will be a good way to work up to max weights in a controlled manner. 30mins of actual exercise is good. More is not always better. Quality over quantity etc etc
Being awkward with people at a gym isn't bad per se. You're not there to socialize after all. You're there to work in order to achieve your personal goals. You're not one of those people who make it a family outing sitting at the bar, eating a load of free cookies and then do 20mins of lousy intensity cardio. Screw the rest. Be focused and self centered from the moment you enter until you're done. You'll rock in no time when the results become apparent.
Currently thinking about using Wendlers 5/3/1 for myself. But instead of his deadlift day I'll use Coan Philips's set-up. After cutting down and the summer its time for proper powerlifting again ;)
I'm looking to take up another program and basically change my routine, and the 5-3-1 sounds like the best thing I could do for strength at the moment so I'll change my routine sometime soon.
Right now, I'm in the gym 6 times a week, doing compound exercises on mon-wed-fri, and olympic lifts on tue-thu-sat. It may look like too much (everyone tells me it's too much lol), but I'm loving it.
Last powerlift regime I did was based on West Side Barble principles and worked great. Now I got my own set-up. Monday-Wednesday-Friday I work out. First exercise is 10 sets 3 repetitions. Bench-Clean&Press-Squats. After that I do 5x5 bill star style. And to top it off 4 assist exercises with a 10rm weight and a goal to do 40reps total in as few sets as possible. I'm not going to waste time building up in weight when the muscle is already warmed up hehe.
When I do 5/3/1 - coan deadlift it'll be like...
Monday deadlift day with assists
Wednesday Bench/Push Press + assists
Friday Squat + assists
You're in it to maintain your strength and your weight, and keep the fat off. Those are your goals, as far as I have gathered.Since I'm in it to be as strong as possible, I go to the gym every day. Compound exercises are very important to me, but olympic lifting is as well, so I've decided to do both. My olympic lifting regime will look something like the 5-3-1 program, although I haven't gone through the exact details yet. At the moment, I'm practicing proper technique (it's good, but I like to prepare properly).
I'm not a powerlifter though, when I squat I go as deep as possible, whereas I've seen powelifters perform a only a 1/4 squat just so they could lift more. I basically use a full range of motion all the time while doing any lift, whereas powerlifters prefer a (much) shorter range of movement in order to lift more.
My main focus is fighting, so I don't like to be called a powerlifter (but also mainly because I never lift weights in a powerlifting style) :P
When it comes to bench press there are partial ROM's (Range of Motions). That is because in each part of the movement certain muscles are used in different ways. So focusing on a certain part will increase your strenght allowing you to overcome the weakness in the needed part of the movement.
Training more is not always better. Not even for olympic lifters, nor for people who go for strenght. It'll overload the nervous system allowing it to send less motor units to the muscle. Less fibers will be activated and less weight will be moved. You can train 6days a week for a short period of time, but not constantly without sufficient rest weeks.
Huh. Okay. I don't feel much aching. Maybe I didnt hurt myself, or maybe the Wii fit loosened me up enough.
*moves arms*
OH GODS MY ARM! I THINK MY LEFT ARM IS BROKEN! *feels arm* No, it just FEELS like its broken....yeouch.
So yeah, aside from the screaming pain from my left bicep near the elbow, I am doing pretty good. Tomorrow, actual form.
Squats/Leg Press
Bench Press
Lat Pull Downs
Overhead Press (Machine at first, later I will do free weights when I am more comfortable with placing an unrestrained 100+ pound bar of metal above my head and trust myself to not sneeze and kill myself)
Bicep Curls
Leg Curls
Tricep Extensions
As I get more experience in lifting I will see about incorporating other exercises into the mix.
As for reps, I will aim for 12, as in when I do reps I do enough weight so that I can lift it 10-12 times and no more (more means I need to up the weight, less than 10 means I need less weight). At first I might do only 1 set of each, but it shouldn't be long at all before I do 2-3 sets of each. I give it 2 weeks of 1 set (Including this week).
Charts for this sort of thing would annoy the crap out of me, especially since I'm unfamiliar with the exercises and physically exhausted easy by them at this point. Plus I want a plan I will be able to keep on without having to put too much thought into it (my goal is that I reach a point where I spend 3 days a week 1 hour at the gym and maintain a good shape without having to think about it when I'm not at the gym)
I doubt I will actually want to get myself as invested in the bodybuilding as you guys are, so I am going for generic instead of in depth. I will try to do the full hour of course (If I can physically manage it, last time did not end well). I expect that the exercises listed will not fill the full hour, but will fill out most of it. The rest of the time I think I will wander around and experiment with different exercises.
2)Bench Press
3)Overhead Press/DB Shoulder Press
4)Lat Pull Downs/Chin Ups/DB Rows
5)add a lower back exercise
If you still have time
6)Bicep exercise Barbel Curl, Preacher Curl, Hammer Curl
7)Tricep exercise Rope Pull Down, Cable Push Down, DB Extention.
I took your own suggestion with a mild change. Listed some alternative exercises so that you can change it up and get something different each time you go.
Sticking with a weight you can do 12 repetitions with is a good idea. You don't have to stick with 1 set. You can also say to yourself... I take a weight which I can do 12repetitions with. My goal is to do 36 repetitions in total with that weight. First time you'll manage 12 then 10, 8, 6 or whatever until you finally reach the target total amount of repetitions. It'll somewhat balance out the fact you're not doing a lot of exercises.
Another idea for a training program which will take you 30-40mins to complete each time can be found here. Just have a look at the beginner set up
Uhm...what you describe are idiots who are led by ego trying to lift more weight then they can. They are not powerlifters like myself nor like any other. Nor do I train to maintain strenght and keep the fat off. Sure I do that when preparing for the summer, but normally my goal is to increase strenght. With 5/3/1 I hope to finally lift 660pounds (300kg) with deadlift.
I see. Strength it is then. 300 kg is a huge weight, hope you manage to lift it. As far as powerlifting goes, I've never done it, just seen it a few times, so yes, my impressions could indeed be wrong. I'm no expert on powerlifting
When it comes to bench press there are partial ROM's (Range of Motions). That is because in each part of the movement certain muscles are used in different ways. So focusing on a certain part will increase your strenght allowing you to overcome the weakness in the needed part of the movement.
This, I know
I use those techniques too. But some guys I see at the gym train at the same time I do, and they never do anything else than partial RoM. I've even asked them if they do full RoM, they said no...Training more is not always better. Not even for olympic lifters, nor for people who go for strenght. It'll overload the nervous system allowing it to send less motor units to the muscle. Less fibers will be activated and less weight will be moved. You can train 6days a week for a short period of time, but not constantly without sufficient rest weeks.
No worries, I know I have to take rest weeks.
The workout you described is actually sounding like a reversal of one the Body for Life book describes, in which you start with a lower load and do several reps, and increase the load a step and do fewer reps, building up until you are only doing a few reps, all with the same exercise.
Either way, I think the idea is working the muscle fully, not just a single set.
I'll try yours and see how it pans out.
Increasing weights every set is...well it means you are wasting a lot of energy that doesn't stimulate growth or anything. Doing reps with weights building up is ok for the first exercise you use the muscle with. But with every follow up exercise that uses the muscle just stick with 1 high weight until the muscle is completely fatigued. The muscle is warmed up with the first exercise so no need to keep building up/warming up with other exercises.
I'll definitely go to the gym, if nothing else to work my legs somewhat more, since I currently have zero soreness in my legs. My legs are definitely in better shape than my arms. I'll also work my back.
I'll try doing some exercises with my arms, but I will be a little light. I might only do 30 mins of workout total.
We now return you to your regularly-scheduled cheering:
GO STEALTH GO!! BURN THOSE CALORIES!! 's for StealthMarmot while in birthday suit}More muscle means a higher metabolism cause muscle burns calories by existing.
I'm not looking to lose weight, I'm looking to lose fat. I wouldn't mind being 210 pounds if I was solid muscle :D
More muscle means a higher metabolism cause muscle burns calories by existing.
Yes, but you want to burn the fat before you start building the muscle too much, you dig? It makes your body more efficient, and has the bonus of toning you while helping you shed weight, which helps you stay motivated by seeing immediate results.
Which sucks because I was planning to turn in pretty early tonight, and am going to.
Good news though, I got my workout. Odd way it happened too.
I was deciding whether I should stay uup that late for a workout or go to sleep and I decided to try a few pushups. I was so sore still I collapsed. I was about to give up but thought I should try something lesser. So I tried a pushup from the knees I got it fine. Then I did 11 more and actually, instead of harder, they got easier.
So I did a set of 12, then 10, then 8 then 6 and realized the exercise actually helped my muscles feel LESS sore than more.
I was actually able to do a couple push ups!
So I decided to do the same for my arms. Lacking barbells I just threw some D&D books into a bag (which you guys KNOW can weight quite a bit) and did sets of 12 then 10 then 8 then 6 in bicep curls, tricep extensions, and single arm overhead presses. I was actually feeling quite good and sweating.
So, deciding on not going to the gym I went back to my Wii fit board. Did 3 sets of lunges, squats, and push up and side planks (the push up and side planks I only did 6 of each set because my arms were still sore and couldn't do much more). I also did some jacknife situps, but only 1 set.
That was the best workout since I started this diet.
So now Im motivqated to get back to the gym over the next few days because it feels great, bot during really, but after. If I do sessions like that every time I workout, where the whole thing ept me sweating, I think I will make my goal of 210 by Otakon.
And as you can see, i won't let little things like lacking a gym get in my way. If I cant make it out there I'll just pull out the Wii fit machine and do squat, lunges, and pushups again. If I had done exercise like this from the get go I would probably be down twice the weight I am now.
Muscle Soreness is that you put stress on your muscles that it isn’t used to. It is adapting to change. If you alter your training schedule 180 degrees in 4-6 weeks you’ll have adaptive muscle soreness again. Heck even after years I still get sore simply by changing my regime forcing the muscle to adjust to the stress.
If you’re sore you can train the muscle. But it might not feel comfortable. If you want you can either do a less intensive routine for that muscle group or skip it all together.
The reason you felt less sore doing push ups is the stretch it gave. Stretching is good and improves blood flow. Getting rid of junk and increasing repair. This is why I really like certain yoga styles as well as deep tissue massages.
Seems you learned how to do improv home work-outs ;) Also sweating isn't really a good sign to go by when it comes to losing fat. Your pores open and you lose junk in the skin cleaning you up. And you lose stored fluids so that the body can cool itself. Only sign it gives is that you're making the body work hard enough so that it gets warm and that you need to drink sufficiently while training and prior to it.
And now to get a few myths out of the world here.
People still believe that certain rep ranges are for certain things. Like the 1-3rep range is exclusively for strength, 8-12 for muscle mass and 15-20 for weight loss. This is NOT true. Doing more reps with lighter weights is NOT the best of ways to lose fat. You will NOT suddenly build a significant amount of muscle mass by doing lesser reps with slightly more weight or vice versa.
Sure with 1-3rep and high weights will utilize more motor units and a lesser degree of Muscle Fibers. 8-12reps will use more muscle fibers and less motor units. 15+ will only use muscle fibers. But there is a whole lot more that needs to be taken into account.
Building muscle takes a lot of time with sufficient nutrition and regularly changing your training regime. You can not gain significant muscle mass AND lose fat at the same time. Sure as a beginning sporter you will increase your muscle mass, but far from optimal. This is due to lack of nutrition. You're eating less then you'd use just so that you'll lose fat. There isn't enough sustenance to gain enough muscle mass. Guys like me will have to do their best to maintain muscle/strenght instead of losing it which is the way it usually goes when trying to shed fat and lack of nutrition.
It is ok if you train in the low rep range. The thing you have to keep in mind is that you rest enough in between work outs and that the remainder of your work-out is altered to fit your lower rep range with higher weights. Low Rep Range means a lot of stress on the neurological system and central nervous system. If you train with higher reps and lower weights you put the stress on muscle fibers and central nervous system. In both cases the same principles of rest and sustenance apply.
If you want to lose fat it is important to train explosively with every repetition and use exercises that utilize as much muscle as possible so stick with compounds. Do NOT train to failure meaning that you go all out until you can't do a single repetition any more. Stop half or 1 full rep before you're done. This will lower the stress on the nervous system. Also keep the rest intervals between sets and changing exercises as low as possible. That way your heart rate stays up and you're basically doing cardiovascular exercise. Once more...higher reps will not make much of a difference. It'll produce more lactic acids and there is no sign what so ever that you'll benefit from that when trying to lose fat.
Example of my fat loss program at this time is fairly simple. There is a strength phase and a mass phase each work-out. The first exercise tops at 10sets with 3repetitions in which a 6rm weight is used throughout all those sets. Before that a simple build up is being done. 8reps at 40% of the top weight, 6reps at 55%, 3reps at 70% and 85%. Trust me. You’ll sweat your ass off as well as having a high heart rate if you do each rep as explosively as possible. The second exercise is a 5 sets and 5reps strength exercise for another muscle group. And then the mass phase begins. A 8-10rm weight is used and no build up in weights throughout the sets. You’ll do as many sets as you need in order to reach 40reps total. If you keep the rest in between sets at 45-60secons and 60-90seconds when changing exercises…and have a proper nutritional regime…you’ll be dead after 4-6 exercises. No need for extra cardio or anything.
Today was my first day actually doing the exercises laid out. I followed the 12-10-8-6 set guideline
Leg Press - 230 + Base machine weight. I finished these relatively easily so I need to increase that weight.
Bench Press - 50 + Bar weight (I forget how much a standard bar weighs, but it was the largest size there was), Could finish not any of the sets but I think that was because I wore myself down from starting with too much.
DB Shoulder Press - 25 pounds with each arm. Did not finish 2nd or 3rd set, but finished 1st and 4th.
Lat Pull Downs - 100 pounds even, was pretty tough, will do that same amount maybe once or twice then increase the weight.
Back exercise - I don't know the name but its the one you lean back against resistance. I did a 5 set with this one. 12 at 180, 10 at 195, 8 at 210, 6 at 225 and then finished with 12 at 240.
Bicep exercise/Hammer Curl (It was a machine) - 50 pounds, barely made it but finished the sets.
Tricep exercise (forget what it is called but you sit and press down on your left and right) - 110, full set may need to increase weight.
The weights don't seem like too much, but in reality that's because I could do more but I wouldn't be able to do more than one set.
Barbels are 20kg over here. So about 45pounds on top of the weights you hang on it.
Back exercise sounds like a machine version of the Hyper Extention
Tricep sounds like Dips in a "machine". Depending how far your lean forward you'll address the front shoulder and chest as well.
So I decided to do the same for my arms. Lacking barbells I just threw some D&D books into a bag (which you guys KNOW can weight quite a bit) and did sets of 12 then 10 then 8 then 6 in bicep curls, tricep extensions, and single arm overhead presses. I was actually feeling quite good and sweating.
One of the best things I've heard in awhile.
I ache right now, I'm hoping I wont in the morning.
Saturday night/Sunday morning I go again.
Go me.....as in going to bed....like now...
Total: 21.7 pounds lost.
I am not sure if the last few workouts have resulted in muscle gains so I cant be sure if that is accurate.
GO STEALTH GO!! Don't forget to take a week or two off every 2 months. Eating wise that is. Meaning that you can eat foods that you couldn't for the 2 months and also eat a little bit more. The body will be sensitive by then and will use the "new" foods and increase its anabolic nature. Meaning you'll get a short boost in fat loss and training results.
For me losing weight is going well as well. But I'm walking around with a lot of dead meat inside of me. This makes my gut look fatter then it actually is. So its time for phase 2. On non work-out days I'm going to eat 400grams of vegetables and the rest only fluids like casein shakes for required proteins. Next to that some flax seeds and more fish oil capsules then normal to make sure I get enough fats. Time to get rid of that dead weight inside of me. You could say its a type of "detox". Except that doing something like that to get rid of the things most detox mention is pointless and a gimmick and unhealthy. Also not going to do it longer then 4 days a week for 5 weeks. Still eating normally 3 times a week and 1 cheat meal on the sunday. So it's doable.
I'd like to say that my own plan is working for myself now since I've gotten serious with it.
Slowly but steadily I'm getting more muscle definition on the front of my torso.
238.8 pounds.
Thats a total of 24.7 pounds lost, and that does not take into account muscle gains and the weight lost from mid december until January 31 (which was probably 5-10 pounds)
But today I changed that. Had a good meal, got up early, went to the gym, did my weight training, and even followed that up with the HIIT Falstyr told me about.
Only did 10 minutes, felt like I could do more at the time, but was glad I stopped cause I felt a little dizzy after stopping. If I had done more I bet I would have been falling over.
Still, good day in exercise land.
Oh and interestingly enough I ran into an old high school friend at the gym.
I know I can't do that well :embarrass Don't beat yourself up for falling off the wagon - it will happen. The important thing is you got back on!
ya. that's what I meant to say too :D
Stupid horse. :P
Right it doesnt matter how many times you fall off the horse, what matters is whether you get back up again, break the horses leg, shoot it, and turn it into glue and McDonald's hamburgers, then buy a new one with a better temperment.
lolz
unfortunately I'm out of horses...
I realize I don't know you, but I'm proud of the effort you're putting into this. I hope you make it all the way to your goal weight (and/or size).
yay loveness! You can do it too, mecha!
I wasn't trying to make that about me. Thank you though.
It was my birthday monday.
happy bday, btw :D
happy bday, btw :D
I'll second that.
Well then start wishing. Maybe your wishes will turn into horses and beggars will start entering the Kentucky Derby.
If wishes were fishes we'd all cast nets....
My horse is a t-83 twin tail starfighter
And happy belated birthday
Same could be said about you Sier.
I already dieted like crazy... 3 times. I'm good for now.
I would have gone this morning for exercise but instead I had to get my car taken in for an emissions test. NOW I have to bring it in again since I cant bring in the car until 2 weeks AFTER work had been done toi it, and work had only been done to it so I could pass the emissions test!
Jerks. Im gonna go buy some aeresol cans and take my frustrations out on the environment now.
So yeah, I'm exercising, and I did the HIIT stuff twice so far. Lets hope that work pays off a bit.
Well good news bad news, bad news is I havent been following my diet too well, but the good news is I have been exercising, so that helps.
I would have gone this morning for exercise but instead I had to get my car taken in for an emissions test. NOW I have to bring it in again since I cant bring in the car until 2 weeks AFTER work had been done toi it, and work had only been done to it so I could pass the emissions test!
Jerks. Im gonna go buy some aeresol cans and take my frustrations out on the environment now.
So yeah, I'm exercising, and I did the HIIT stuff twice so far. Lets hope that work pays off a bit.
We all have those days that are so frustrating we fall off the wagon a bit. Since you can't go back and not eat the bad stuff, you're doing the right thing by trying to burn it off. I hope things work out fine with your car; and keep plugging away at the diet. We have faith that you can do it, in spite of a few bad days.
100push ups...nice...useless. Really it is friggin useless and won't do you any good. It won't help you gain muscle mass and it won't do you any good burning fat. The only thing is that your muscles will become more efficient with oxygen and thus fatigue not as fast as usual. And when your muscles will use oxygen more optimally you will not burn.
Same principle applies to cardio. Your body has 1 oxygen system. You can do cardiovasculair work and increase the amount your body can pump through the body slightly. The real trick is with the muscles they use oxygen. The more you use the muscles in a certain movement it'll start using the supplied oxygen more optimally allowing you to go on longer with less oxygen wasted. Thus it seems as if your stamina increases while it doesn't. So to keep your heart rate up and use more calories you will have to switch the way you use your muscles regularly. So instead of cycling start jogging then switch to rowing for a while. As soon as your body is used to one thing then challenge it by changing everything.
@Stealthmarmot
You should've continued with the HIIT. In the worst case you'd be puking your guts out at the end. Just have a proper meal within an hour after your stopped.
Being dizzy also meant your muscle glycogen was running low. Meaning you didn't eat enough carbohydrates. That is good. You should feel that way nearing the end of your workout. If it happens way before increase the amount of carbs you eat. And to protect loss of muscle mass make sure you eat enough proteins each day. An extra protein shake before and after a workout aren't a bad idea either. And the amino's within it also increase fat loss. Just make sure you eat less proteine during the day to compensate for the amount you get from the shakes.
Falling of the wagon. Well...if you were my client I would've beaten you with a stick. Really I'd be all over you for lack of will power and wasting my time. "cheating" and such will set you back a day or two each time you do it. Do you have that time to waste? Remember what I said about going for a hard sprint and get it over with then being one of many that do it slow and use excuses and two years later still haven't achieved a thing? Best thing you can do is get back on your regime asap. Don't do compensation days, don't do additional cardio. That'll just make it worse. Accept that you lost a day or two of work and stick to your original way of doing things.
As for myself. I have reached my goal. I even managed to set a few new Personal Records on the Squat, lost a bit on deadlift and bench...still that'll come back soon enough hehe. It's great to finally be allowed to eat some chocolate again. I've sooooo missed that :D
And if I am irritable and short with people at my job, I'll get fired. Especially if it's a customer.
GO STEALTH GO!! Remember - exercise releases endorphins, so it can actually make you less stressed! And it's a great way to take out your frustrations without actually punching anyone in the face!! :D
It is nice when you can do both at the same time though. That's why martial arts classes are full of win.
I'll go sign up right now :D
I've been so irritated recently with time management. I haven't been able to do the things I love to do anymore. I mean for crying out loud I barely get to play video games anymore.
I've been doing the exercise, at least a couple of times a week. Having trouble getting motivated on Sunday and Monday though....
I've been so irritated recently with time management. I haven't been able to do the things I love to do anymore. I mean for crying out loud I barely get to play video games anymore.
I'm sorry to hear that.
It sucks when real life stuff gets in the way of your health - trust me, I know what it's like to have the life sucked out of you and not have the time/energy to even look at the exercise machine (go two year old!!).
But good job keeping up the exercise! Just keep the thought of the endorphins in your head - people tend to feel much better after they work out (in a mental capacity) than before, especially if they were in a bad mood or stressed. I don't have sources, but I have read that, and I mean it in the best intention!!
And while it sucks that your boss is a jerk about it - but it is a good thing that your company is so busy in these times.
And while it sucks that your boss is a jerk about it - but it is a good thing that your company is so busy in these times.
No No No NO, my boss (bosses) is NOT a jerk. My supervisors are some of the coolest people I have ever met.
It's the client! They dumped a humongous problem on us because their customer base quintupled in like 3 months! And now we are having to deal with the fallout!
Stupid clients!! :P
A friend also works with clients and lots of IT stuff. She gets annoyed and stressed with it as well. Still she sticks to her food regime and tries to find time to exercise 3 times a week. It's easier now that her Floorball season has ended hehe. She doesn't have kids so that helps.
Why anyone wants such monsters is beyond me. Having a girlfriend/wife is enough of a drain on resources and mental capacity as is :P
This morning: .8 pounds or so above my lowest. Not much really, I was afraid I had gained some. I should be at a new low before my free day Saturday.
Last night: Another night of exercise successfull.
This morning: .8 pounds or so above my lowest. Not much really, I was afraid I had gained some. I should be at a new low before my free day Saturday.
Congrats. I know it's hard to stay motivated to exercise when you're feeling low on energy from reducing calories. I could hit you with all the cliches; but the truth is you'll make it to your goal as long as you stay focused and determined. And we have faith that you can do it.
By the way, what weight are you at now? It's been about 18 days since you updated your current weight.
And that is why I hope he doesn't listen to them for advice.
As long as he eats 2,5grams of proteine per 1kg of bodyweight and 50-60grams of unsaturated fats per day. With 100-ish complex carbs on non training days and 200-300 on training days he shouldn't feel (mentally) fatigued or low after the first 2-3 weeks of adjusting to it. His body should be in fat burning mode and not feel hunger at the same time. So no excuses about feeling low on energy, fatigued or all those many cliches people talk about. Those people don't know **** about what they're doing and that is why they fail and come up with poor excuses to justify their failure. Lying to themselves...sad people.
And that is why I hope he doesn't listen to them for advice.
Wait, so not knowing precise numbers for a diet when all your life you've just been eating when you're hungry and not worrying about the details is "lying to yourself"?
That's an... interesting perspective.
Wait, so not knowing precise numbers for a diet when all your life you've just been eating when you're hungry and not worrying about the details is "lying to yourself"?
That's an... interesting perspective.
Yes it is.
Merely "listening" to a feeling of hunger will allow for overeating and binge eating at night. Especially since your stomach will get bigger or smaller and thus adjust the amount of food it can contain. So you will either feel hungry when you're not...or feel hungry when you shouldn't.
Your body needs x amount of nutrients. You don't have to eat at specific times as long as you eat it within 24 hours. Still eating at specific times will give your body a timer so that it knows when to expect the next "income". Thus it'll be more inclined to actually use what you give it instead of it storing excess as fat for later usage. You can't do a simple calculation and know the exacts. You need to play with the carbohydrate in take and see how much you need through experience. But the fats and protein are pretty much set in stone. Unfortunately all junk and snacks are carbs in the form of sugars which give nice insulin spikes and increase fat storage. Its manageable to have some from time to time, but not bags on daily basis.
It's like people saying they eat tons like a mad man. Then when looking at what they eat and what they should eat...it doesn't even come close. In most cases being fat is NOT a result of over eat, but under eating. Most people eat too few nutrients and too many empty calories. Eating foods with proper nutrients people should actually feel full all the time.
An no it isn't elitism when you know what you're talking about while most others obviously do not. I suggest looking up what it means before spouting such nonsense. Every day I have to deal with idiotic assumptions from people who have no clue what they're talking about. Fine if you want to hold onto those myths of health, but don't whine about falling of horses or things that don't go your way or being big boned or crap like that.
When it becomes elitism is when you assume that knowledge and ignorance means you're better and act like people are stupid because they don't know something.
An no it isn't elitism when you know what you're talking about while most others obviously do not. I suggest looking up what it means before spouting such nonsense.
You're right. But it becomes elitism when you act like a douchebag towards the people that do not have the knowledge that you posess.
I suggest looking up what it means before spouting such nonsense.
This line right here shows your elitism. It's also referred to as being an ass. Or, on the forums, trolling and flaming.
Your manners leave something to be desired.
GO STEALTH GO!! Zombification: The Fat just falls off...literally.
Liveeeeeeeeeeer...
KGM has a lot of cheerleader friends. They're really good at cheering in unison. Who leads the squad?
The hive mind.
Anyway, tonight I forgot that the gym isn't open from midnight to 5 on fridays/saturdays AGAIN.
But I made do with the Wii fit exercises. Push up and Side plank, Lunges, some cardio and some Yoga. Haven't done any of those in a while so its nice to mix it up.
Did pigknight and Zombie_Babies have a bastard child?
Your knowledge is impeccable (sic) Falstyr.
Your manners leave something to be desired.
Good manners get you no where. Life is a *****...so you have to be harder and beat her.
@General
If I was elitist, troll or whatever several call me then I wouldn't explain things to Marmot so he can actually reach his goal. And the explanation is up for grabs for anyone else who truly wants to achieve something. Because lets be honest...the nonsense advice I've seen many others post won't do him much good except giving cause for weak willed rationalizations that its good to give up or slack. Which, to be honest, is pathetic and totally counter productive to him.
Just like anything in life. If you want something you have to go for it with full conviction and screw everyone around you. Most people just get in your way no matter what it is you want to achieve. Personal development, career development, physical development...its all the same. If you want to succeed surround yourself with people who are not leeches for they keep you down.
The hive mind.
Anyway, tonight I forgot that the gym isn't open from midnight to 5 on fridays/saturdays AGAIN.
But I made do with the Wii fit exercises. Push up and Side plank, Lunges, some cardio and some Yoga. Haven't done any of those in a while so its nice to mix it up.
Did pigknight and Zombie_Babies have a bastard child?
Yes, yes they did.
You could always try a martial art. Besides getting a workout, you can tell your friends you are multiclassing into monk/unarmed fighter (depending on the martial art and which dnd edition you use).
Did pigknight and Zombie_Babies have a bastard child?
Are you tryin' to get me sent to prison? Piggy's underage, man! Since you asked, though, the answer is an emphatic "yes" - so long as this can't be used against me in a court of law.
I recently had to buy a new pair of work pants, and I was able to buy the new pair with a 2-inch smaller waist size than my last pair. Also, I was able to lower my steering wheel without discomfort when entering/exiting the vehicle.
Stealth, hope you're keeping at it as well.
I think I just need a rest period until my workplace gets sorted out and the project I'm working on at home is done. I havent gotten much sleep this week so I don't have the energy for the gym. But, I have been very good at my diet, making sure I don't cheat.
My workplace is just KILLING me mentally. Just KILLING me.
As for me...my strength seems to by sky rocketing last few weeks. Added 55pounds on my squat out of no where and still going strong. Also bought a nice low box to practice box squating and a sled to put weights on and play with it outside as cardio :D
Keeping the diet is main thing. I'd still try to get some movement done. Even if it is just a walk through a park. It'll do you some good even if its just to clear your head from the all the work and get a fresh start.
As for me...my strength seems to by sky rocketing last few weeks. Added 55pounds on my squat out of no where and still going strong. Also bought a nice low box to practice box squating and a sled to put weights on and play with it outside as cardio :D
How much can you lift? I find the existence of muscles mysterious and fascinating.
How much can you lift? I find the existence of muscles mysterious and fascinating.
There is nothing mysterious about it. You cause stress on the body and demolish the muscles. Then you make sure you eat enough nutrients and take enough rest so that the body can repair itself. Doing so it'll make some extra musclemass in order to withstand the amount of stress you provided. So to cause new growth you have to increase the stress you put on it. That is in a nutshell how every sport works.
My lifting stats...
Bench Press - 310 pounds. But I truly suck at this, and truly loathe/hate this exercise, so that's why it is so low compared to most others who compete.
Squat - 570-580pounds. I truly love this
Deadlift - 650-ish pounds.
I hope to get the Bench up to 400, squat to 650 en deadlift to 700 before I turn 30 years. Then I want to start competing in local Strongman competitions.
How the hell do you squat that much? Geeze. You must be the size of a tree.
my squat was like 185 yet I can do Goodmornings at 220. (I just don't have the hip structure I guess for squats?)
I can't remember my dead lift. But I do good with hang cleans, and shrugs. I'm decent at overhead press. (don't know my max on those though)
Good news for everyone and I hope this encourages you Marmot! I weigh in at 171.1 lbs.
When I started my heightened work out (I've ramped it up since then. now I'm doing stuff outside and in the hot sun to get ready for Basic) I weighed in at 205 or did at least when I had been weighed 2 years ago. (Though I was freaking huge but I also had a gut to go with the muscles) I now weigh 171 and am much healthier. Through a combination of not eating fast food all the time, and adding some cardio to my weight routine (I'm probably not as strong as I used to be, but I know I've got more endurance, flexibility and speed now so there :P) I lost the lbs.
About the time the Marmot started his diet I'd say I had come down to around 185-190.
I think I'm where I want to be weight wise, though I could stand some tone and definition (just a lil more than what I've got now). Today I get to go swimming. I've not swam in a looong time so I'm going to pace myself.
Reaching 400-450 is quite easy. After that it becomes a slow grind and hard work for small increments. If your lucky you have small boosts coming out of nowhere, but they are a rarity.
Hamstring/Groin/Hip tightness is very common among every day folk. I've also noticed more and more people complain about uncomfortable stings in their lower back up to daily back pains. Silly pharmaceutical companies try selling pills to deal with it. Easy money, deals with the pain, but not with the problem. And that is the tightness in the hip/groin area which pulls the entire spine in a wrong shape and thus puts pressure on the back muscles to deal with it. Twice a week I spend 10-15mins doing mobility and pre-habilitation work just to prevent getting lumbar issues and back pains.
If people are interested I can share the exercises for that. Results can be noticed shortly within a week or two. Some are damn painful and uncomfortable, but that is what it takes to loosen things up inside the body :P
But I wanted to share something related that I thought was a good thing. I decided on a whim late last night that I would clean out my closet (in the literal sense) and throw out all the crap that had been piling up that was basically useless and needed to be sorted out. I also had a ton of crap that was not mine in there, but that is another story.
Among the things in there were clothes, and one that I noticed were pants. Some shorts, some long cackies. At my highest weight I was wearing 40 waist. That was miserable. They were never tight, but they actually fit. Now they hang off me and are not wearable.
I dumped them out and have given instructions to my mother that when she sorts through all of her stuff she take what she wants to keep, give the rest to goodwill, along with all those pants with a 40 waist (38 is quite loose on me now, barely wearable, but I will keep them for just a bit).
I decided to give the 40s away because I decided I NEVER want to be that size again. EVER. As soon as the 38s become unwearable I will do the same with them.
It will be a proud, and expensive, day that I give up all the 38 waist clothing and never wear them again and have to buy new ones.
I am keeping the XXL shirts, just because I like loose shirts, even though XL is probably going to be closer to what I need.
GO STEALTH GO!! I am myself holding onto pants I don't fit into. I'm a cheap bastard.
I'm looking forward to being able to fit into those 56 waist jeans again (I'm currently a 60).