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#1

homicidal_squirrel

Apr 06, 2011 0:08:46
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#2

EscherEnigma

Apr 06, 2011 0:39:02
... with pay!?
#3

homicidal_squirrel

Apr 06, 2011 0:53:28
... wity pay!?


It's Florida. I'm amazed they didn't give him a raise.
#4

homicidal_squirrel

Apr 06, 2011 6:30:15
Is it true that in Florida is is super easy to get away with murder if it can remotly pass as self-defense?


Probably. 
#5

zombie_babies

Apr 06, 2011 12:43:16
... with pay!?



Likely Union required.  And innocence until guilt is proven, blah blah.  Anyhoo, this is common practice in a lot of cases.  What's really rare is suspension without pay - which is also typically, but not in all cases, a precursor to termination.  For example, in Cleveland a gal was murdered and dumped on the side of a highway.  A passing motorist called it in and a couple of cops were dispatched to check it out.  They were, at the time, sitting idle for a few hours (verified by vehicle monitoring equipment) but responded to the call immediately.  They drove past the corpse once - at 50mph - decided it was a deer, called it in as such and went back to sitting idle for a few more hours.  A road crew found her later and called it in.  Anyhoo, this was all, obviously, found out and the cops were put on administrative leave with pay.  They were sent to a hearing, found guilty of something or other and then placed on 6 months administrative leave without pay.  So that's how it goes a lot of the time. 
#6

boraxe

Apr 06, 2011 13:26:44
Does the $100,000+ per year include the dirty money from kick-backs?
#7

homicidal_squirrel

Apr 06, 2011 17:16:57
... with pay!?



Likely Union required.  And innocence until guilt is proven, blah blah.  Anyhoo, this is common practice in a lot of cases.  What's really rare is suspension without pay - which is also typically, but not in all cases, a precursor to termination.  For example, in Cleveland a gal was murdered and dumped on the side of a highway.  A passing motorist called it in and a couple of cops were dispatched to check it out.  They were, at the time, sitting idle for a few hours (verified by vehicle monitoring equipment) but responded to the call immediately.  They drove past the corpse once - at 50mph - decided it was a deer, called it in as such and went back to sitting idle for a few more hours.  A road crew found her later and called it in.  Anyhoo, this was all, obviously, found out and the cops were put on administrative leave with pay.  They were sent to a hearing, found guilty of something or other and then placed on 6 months administrative leave without pay.  So that's how it goes a lot of the time. 



It also depends on the actual crime. I would assume that he isn't being charged with kidnapping or some other crime on that level. If he had been charged with kidnapping, there is a higher probability that he would have lost pay during the time he is suspended. Also, if he is charged with some type of corruption, he would more than likely lose pay. Sex with minors would also get his pay suspended. 

Does the $100,000+ per year include the dirty money from kick-backs?

No. Cops in South Florida actually make pretty good money. It all depends on the number of years they have been working, how many certifications they have, the type of certifications they have, the shift they work, and their rank. It goes the same for firefighters.

There are certain certifications that can get you a step increase in pay, and there are certifications that can get you a percentage increase in pay. For example, firefighters that have been certified as paramedic get a 5-15% increase in pay (I know it is somewhere in that range, but I don't remember exactly how much).

Also, cops (not firefighters) get higher pay depending on their shift. Most public employees get it. If they work the night shift they get about 5% increase in pay. you might think that it is a lot of money for working at night, but to be honest, you don't want to be the cop working at night. There are some messed up areas here that are bad enough during the day. At night they are even worse.

Firefighters don't get the night differential because they work 24 hours straight. However, they only work every three days. 
#8

Cpt_Micha

Apr 06, 2011 18:59:38
Take that state and burn it.

All of it.
#9

homicidal_squirrel

Apr 06, 2011 19:06:18
Take that state and burn it.

All of it.

You wouldn't be saying that if you saw what Spring Break was like down here.

#10

Jharii

Apr 06, 2011 19:07:25
Take that state and burn it.

All of it.

You wouldn't be saying that if you saw what Spring Break was like down here.


Not to mention it wouldn't take...  it rains like 95% of the time down there.

#11

homicidal_squirrel

Apr 06, 2011 19:20:48
Take that state and burn it.

All of it.

You wouldn't be saying that if you saw what Spring Break was like down here.


Not to mention it wouldn't take...  it rains like 95% of the time down there.



Actually... we have been having some pretty bad droughts.Lately we have gottena few storms, but they are pretty blah...
We have county water restrictions, so people can't water their lawns whenever they want. In fact, when I was working as a dispatcher for the county fire department, I had to send out fire units to put out small grass fires that started on the grassy medians in the middle of streets. There are also parts of undeveloped land that dry out pretty bad and we get large fires that spread all over the place. It happens every summer.

I get the feeling the land is trying to kill off the stupid...  
#12

Cpt_Micha

Apr 06, 2011 19:23:49
No I can live without florida spring breaks.

The "boon" of florida spring break is not worth the sacrifice otherwise.

Burn It.
#13

zombie_babies

Apr 07, 2011 9:09:03
It also depends on the actual crime. I would assume that he isn't being charged with kidnapping or some other crime on that level. If he had been charged with kidnapping, there is a higher probability that he would have lost pay during the time he is suspended. Also, if he is charged with some type of corruption, he would more than likely lose pay. Sex with minors would also get his pay suspended.  



True dat.  Worse crime, worse suspension.  But this was pretty bad, too. 
#14

homicidal_squirrel

Apr 07, 2011 9:18:56
True dat.  Worse crime, worse suspension.  But this was pretty bad, too. 

I've heard of worse cases of abuse. There were several city police officers that were suspended and then arrested because they were accused of forcing women into sex to avoid being arrested. From what I heard, the police cars were finger printed and the back seat had prints on the head rest area as if someone had both hands back there... you know... the canine position


#15

zombie_babies

Apr 07, 2011 10:21:39
Yep, good ol' abuse of powah.  Still, this dood allegedly used his service weapon to threaten this gal.  That's ... not good. 
#16

homicidal_squirrel

Apr 07, 2011 11:22:25
Yep, good ol' abuse of powah.  Still, this dood allegedly used his service weapon to threaten this gal.  That's ... not good. 



Errr... It would be more acceptable with some random firearm?


Probably. His department has to insure him when he uses his service weapon. If he had used a gun tat wasn't his service weapon then it would likely be a different story.
#17

zombie_babies

Apr 07, 2011 11:49:21
Errr... It would be more acceptable with some random firearm?



Overall?  Nope.  But, in a way, yes.  His service weapon is issued him by the department, I believe, and is, therefore, a physical symbol of his authority.  It just makes it feel dirtier and, in cases like this, perception can be a big deal. 
#18

zombie_babies

Apr 07, 2011 12:07:39
Yeah, what he (allegedly) did is awful no matter what.  Using his service weapon would be like adding awful sprinkles to the awful sundae.