Mazes and Monsters

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#1

Novacat

Jan 02, 2010 2:12:49
I just saw Mazes and Monsters during a New Year's Eve get-together. That stuff is so hilariously bad I was yelling at the TV by the end of it because everyone was being so retarded. "Clerics couldn't use bladed weapons in the 80's!" "Clerics can't fly!"

I like the "I jump in the pit." and "You die." exchange. No BS about saves or perception rolls. Just, "you die." That's a hardcore MC.

But the best part is when his "friends" come help him recover from his advanced schizophrenia by indulging in his delusions, probably setting his recovery progress back months at least.
#2

Dougan_Axehammer

Jan 02, 2010 2:32:29
For myself, I found the most interesting part about Mazes and Monsters was the controversy it was trying to portray: That D&D is so evil and so corrupt that it drives people to depression and suicide.  And, IMO, it failed to tell that, but not because it was badly written.  It failed because it didn't show D&D as being the cause of his depression and mental insanity; the trauma of the death of someone he held close caused his insanity.  The game merely became an instrument of expressing himself, and due to his already unstable personality it evolved into an outlet of his manic disorders.

Personally, I liked the movie: it was well written and I like Mr. Hanks as an actor.  But it didn't tell the story some people were hoping.
#3

Mad_Jack

Jan 02, 2010 3:41:15
Honestly, I think somebody should do a remake.... Hell, you could even update it to be about an MMO to make it currently relevant without changing the actual storyline.
#4

Novacat

Jan 02, 2010 3:58:51
it was well written


We're obviously not talking about the same movie.
#5

Klirshon

Jan 02, 2010 4:02:26
@Mad_Jack:
Except with the character would be a MMOG addict (really it doesn't make sense to call something a massively multiplayer online and not include the noun). Once their precious game is cut off they go into a nerd rage.
#6

ian.thomson

Jan 02, 2010 10:01:42

One player with a history of mental illness goes crazy.  The other three (some of whom should have developed less severe issues, but still developed issues) were better off for playing the game.  A lot of people on both sides of the fence when it comes to D&D being good or bad seem to ignore it.  The movie is actually kinda pro-D&D if you look at it that way.

That's why I prefer Jack Chick's Dark Dungeons when I need to laugh at the people that are scared of us.

#7

Webster

Jan 02, 2010 10:35:47
I always wanted to draw a nifty map like the one in the movie.

And searching all my D&D books, I never found the rule that says you have to dress up, either.
#8

Dougan_Axehammer

Jan 03, 2010 0:34:31
it was well written


We're obviously not talking about the same movie.



Well I thought it was decently done at least; maybe it was just the inclusion of Tom Hanks acting that made it work.  But it was still an okay movie at the least, and certainly better than the atrocity that was Dungeons and Dragons: The Movie (a brain cell dies every time I think about it.)
#9

dragom

Jan 05, 2010 12:20:54

Ah Mazes and Monsters the greatest true crime drama of our time...

#10

boraxe

Jan 05, 2010 12:26:15
Mazes & Monsters is to D&D what Reefer Madness is to cannabis: no matter what you think of the topic you'd need to be entirely brainless not to recognize what absurd and ridiculous nonsense it is.
#11

zombie_babies

Jan 05, 2010 12:37:08
That's the third time today I've seen or heard a reference to Reefer Madness (two here, one on the radio).  What the hell is goin' on?  Does everyone listen to O&A?
#12

boraxe

Jan 05, 2010 13:17:27
That's the third time today I've seen or heard a reference to Reefer Madness (two here, one on the radio).  What the hell is goin' on?  Does everyone listen to O&A?


Sorry, no, I don't even know what "O&A" is. Reefer Madness is simply the touchstone for insanely over-the-top hyperbolic paranoid propaganda.
#13

zombie_babies

Jan 05, 2010 13:19:10
Sorry, no, I don't even know what "O&A" is. Reefer Madness is simply the touchstone for insanely over-the-top hyperbolic paranoid propaganda.



Oh, I know what it is.  I just never thought I'd see/hear it thrice in a day is all.  O&A does make it to Canadia, too, so it was possible - if unlikely - you were a fan.  Thought I'd give it a shot.  ;)
#14

dirtyfrank

Jan 05, 2010 13:28:15
That's the third time today I've seen or heard a reference to Reefer Madness (two here, one on the radio).  What the hell is goin' on?  Does everyone listen to O&A?

It might just be you. Nope, i listen to RAD and not O&A.

#15

zombie_babies

Jan 05, 2010 13:31:01
It might just be you. Nope, i listen to RAD and not O&A.



Dood, tons of people listen to O&A.  Don't they? 
#16

dirtyfrank

Jan 05, 2010 13:53:24
I don't know. I've never met Tons of People.
#17

zombie_babies

Jan 05, 2010 13:57:09
I don't know. I've never met Tons of People.



... me either. 
#18

ellorin

Jan 05, 2010 16:06:59
I don't know. I've never met Tons of People.



... me either. 



I have. While my class was visiting the greek parliament and were standing begore the main gate (about 10 minutes before we went to our spectator seats), a certain...not-exactly medium-sized politician came in a hurry and almost ran me over.

I wish I was kidding.
#19

lightgun_suicide

Jan 07, 2010 2:50:54
A guy in Northern Ireland last year was arrested for stealing knickers from a shop while dressed as a blonde female elf (wig included). He believed he was acting out a Shadowrun encounter:
www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/22/magical...

I think there should be a movie.
#20

Novacat

Jan 07, 2010 2:55:24
A guy in Northern Ireland last year was arrested for stealing knickers from a shop while dressed as a blonde female elf (wig included). He believed he was acting out a Shadowrun encounter:
www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/22/magical...

I think there should be a movie.


I love the title of that article: "Magical Elf jailed for lifting women's knickers". They call Shadowrun a fantasy game, but isn't more of a sci-fi, cyberpunk setting? 
#21

darkspartan

Jan 07, 2010 2:58:51
I had to look up O&A. It didn't make it here to WA, so I'll hazard a guess that it's not ubiquitous, even if it has made it to Canuckistan.

-Sarena
#22

lightgun_suicide

Jan 07, 2010 3:23:13
A guy in Northern Ireland last year was arrested for stealing knickers from a shop while dressed as a blonde female elf (wig included). He believed he was acting out a Shadowrun encounter:
www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/22/magical...

I think there should be a movie.


I love the title of that article: "Magical Elf jailed for lifting women's knickers". They call Shadowrun a fantasy game, but isn't more of a sci-fi, cyberpunk setting? 



Its a shoddy graphic-novel fail setting.


#23

zombie_babies

Jan 07, 2010 8:26:11
I had to look up O&A. It didn't make it here to WA, so I'll hazard a guess that it's not ubiquitous, even if it has made it to Canuckistan.

-Sarena



It's on satellite.  It makes it to where the recievers be.  ;)  They were terrestrial for a while, too.  Long story.  Not terribly interesting to those that don't know it, either.  Funny how that crap works.

Its a shoddy graphic-novel fail setting.



Incorrect.  It's an incredibly entertaining setting that combines elements of sci-fi and fantasy in a gritty, violent world.  If ya' can't have fun as a Runner, it ain't the game's fault.  ;)
#24

boraxe

Jan 07, 2010 8:51:59
Its a shoddy graphic-novel fail setting.


That makes no damned sense at all. The graphic novel is a medium, not a property. It's silly as saying "4e is a video game".

Shadowrun is the epitome of an interesting idea poorly executed.
#25

lightgun_suicide

Jan 07, 2010 9:01:02
Graphic novels do have a fairly set stock setting left over from Marvel (Hellboy, Judge Dread et al) and its utter failure. Games Workshop got away with it kinda, but fantasy and cyberpunk is a terrible combination. Unless it involves steam tunnels, then its awesome.

#26

dirtyfrank

Jan 07, 2010 9:10:49
I had to look up O&A. It didn't make it here to WA, so I'll hazard a guess that it's not ubiquitous, even if it has made it to Canuckistan.

With me, even though I've never listened to O&A, knew what it is but only for one reason. See I like this comedian Stephen Lynch and well. Well this guy was on O&A once and played a song and O&A made fun of him and the song. Now he hates playing that song, even though it is totally awesome, and on one of his albums the intro to the song is him talking about his bad experience on O&A. I guess I could assume it's a good show but I'm sure it ain't as good as RAD. RAD was up in Seattle (you kinda live up near there correct? So maybe you did hear them or something) or whatever for 1 year several years back but they left that town. Right now they're only broadcasting in the Sacramento and Reno areas and stuff (and the Internet).

#27

zombie_babies

Jan 07, 2010 9:46:14
With me, even though I've never listened to O&A, knew what it is but only for one reason. See I like this comedian Stephen Lynch and well. Well this guy was on O&A once and played a song and O&A made fun of him and the song. Now he hates playing that song, even though it is totally awesome, and on one of his albums the intro to the song is him talking about his bad experience on O&A. I guess I could assume it's a good show but I'm sure it ain't as good as RAD. RAD was up in Seattle (you kinda live up near there correct? So maybe you did hear them or something) or whatever for 1 year several years back but they left that town. Right now they're only broadcasting in the Sacramento and Reno areas and stuff (and the Internet).




Lynch is actually a friend of the show.  They have him on whenever he's in the area and in the mood.  He just did some big show thing at Carnegie Hall and went on O&A to promote it.  They love the guy cuz he's damned funny - and not just with his songs.  He's a great fit when he's on.  I actually found out about him cuz of that show.  Anyhoo, there's no hate between 'em and they like him a lot.  Who doesn't?  He friggin' pwns. 

EDIT: If anyone watches Leno, one of the O&A regulars is on from time to time.  Jim Norton.  A fantastic comic and everyday (unless he's in LA or on tour) member.  Thing is, if you've seen him on Leno, you haven't seen him.  He's not exactly shy with language and network TV ain't a place he can do his normal act.  ;)
#28

dirtyfrank

Jan 07, 2010 9:50:16
Lynch is actually a friend of the show.  They have him on whenever he's in the area and in the mood.  He just did some big show thing at Carnegie Hall and went on O&A to promote it.  They love the guy cuz he's damned funny - and not just with his songs.  He's a great fit when he's on.  I actually found out about him cuz of that show.  Anyhoo, there's no hate between 'em and they like him a lot.  Who doesn't?  He friggin' pwns. 

Well I ain't saying that he hates the show but rather him playing that song on the show was one of his first gig things and he was all nerves. when he was done they made fun of the song and stuff. And well as I have heard he has performed on the show some more and stuff. The end result is though is he still doesn't like playing that one song.

IIRC it is called All Mighty malachi, professional bowling god.

To tell the truth I think that's probably one of his better songs.

Oh and I found out about lynch form his comedy central special. the first one.

#29

zombie_babies

Jan 07, 2010 9:55:41
Well I ain't saying that he hates the show but rather him playing that song on the show was one of his first gig things and he was all nerves. when he was done they made fun of the song and stuff. And well as I have heard he has performed on the show some more and stuff. The end result is though is he still doesn't like playing that one song.

IIRC it is called All Mighty malachi, professional bowling god.

To tell the truth I think that's probably one of his better songs.

Oh and I found out about lynch form his comedy central special. the first one.




I remember that tune.  I like it.  Whenever I see one of his specials comin' up on Comedy Central, I try to catch it.  That dood is funny.  I like the D&D song, of course, and a few others I can't remember the names of.  I know I kinda like that I think you're a Nazi one.  He's good.  Lynch was in Ohio a few months ago but was playin' a theater really far away from me so I didn't go.  He's one of the few comics I'd actually go out an' see.  Maybe if he comes to Cleveland (instead of friggin' Lorain) next time ...