Mouse in my apartment -- risk of infectious disease?

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#1

julescarv

Feb 04, 2009 0:18:03
It seems that my apartment has a mouse, or possibly more than one mouse. At any rate, I'm wondering about the risk of infectious disease here.

Basically, would I carry any contagious pathogens that are likely to be harmful to mice? I wouldn't want the mouse to get sick just because of the misfortune of sharing an apartment with a human disease carrier. I'm trying to avoid exposing the mouse to obvious risks. For instance, I flush my bodily wastes down the toilet so that the mouse won't come into contact with them. Well, actually I'd do that anyway. I wash my tableware with hot water and dishsoap to remove saliva and such from it after I use it.

Are these precautions enough, or is my presence still a potential danger?
#2

Kobajagrande

Feb 04, 2009 4:10:33
Hmmm... Put your hand in front of your mouth when you sneeze. You don't want any microorganisms in the air!

I also think that washing your skin with hot water and soap is good for eliminating the bacteria that might infect the mouse as well.
#3

lofgren

Feb 04, 2009 4:14:19
Mice are damn hardy animals.

And If you have one, you have more than one.
#4

toastedamphibian

Feb 04, 2009 4:32:52
Actually, it is probaby possible. I know humans and ferrets, for instance, can pass viruses back and forth (Most notably common cold viruses.) The odds arn't great though, most diseases dont transfer well between species. If it is any consolation, its young will probably get sick less later in life for growing up around you.
#5

ADHadh

Feb 04, 2009 5:44:17
Get a cat, worry no more!

Hooray for cats!
#6

lofgren

Feb 04, 2009 6:37:33
Actually, it is probaby possible. I know humans and ferrets, for instance, can pass viruses back and forth (Most notably common cold viruses.) The odds arn't great though, most diseases dont transfer well between species. If it is any consolation, its young will probably get sick less later in life for growing up around you.

Mice and human share a lot of diseases. In addition, mouse poop carries pathogens that can be deadly if untreated. If you're careful, though, it shouldn't be too much of a problem.
#7

Crackerjake

Feb 04, 2009 6:40:45
Mice and human share a lot of diseases. In addition, mouse poop carries pathogens that can be deadly if untreated. If you're careful, though, it shouldn't be too much of a problem.

Lol, litter trained mice...
#8

batshido

Feb 04, 2009 6:54:44
It seems that my apartment has a mouse, or possibly more than one mouse.

There's ALWAYS more than one mouse.

At any rate, I'm wondering about the risk of infectious disease here.

Do you live in a third world country? If not, it's practically nil. You're more likely to catch something from your boss or your pets.
#9

knights_disciple

Feb 04, 2009 7:12:40
The solution is simple: traps.
Then the mouse won't have any cares or worries at all! :P
#10

Cpt_Micha

Feb 04, 2009 7:31:06
I second the Cat recommendation.
#11

EscherEnigma

Feb 04, 2009 11:15:05
god damn mice are too smart for their own good. I've tried three different kinds of traps, and each one only works for a few days before the rest of the lot just solemnly walk past their trapped brethren and learn to avoid that style of trap. I swear, it's like I have the NY-City-rat version of mice.
#12

Cpt_Micha

Feb 04, 2009 11:21:27
Have you tried a mouse dog yet?

or a cat?
#13

EscherEnigma

Feb 04, 2009 11:22:48
Our lease has a "no pets" clause.
#14

cottonmather

Feb 04, 2009 11:24:03
There are plenty of non-lethal traps on the market, and they work very well. The problem is, if you have a lot of mice, trapping might not be enough. Those things breed man. Try a few traps around the house. When you catch them, release them in a wooded area as far away from your house as you can find. If you catch 3-5 and still have a problem. Time to call Dr. Death/
#15

Cpt_Micha

Feb 04, 2009 11:26:42
Our lease has a "no pets" clause.

Damn that sucks. The ole arsenic laced peanut butter trick, have you tried that yet?
#16

cottonmather

Feb 04, 2009 11:28:06
Damn that sucks. The ole arsenic laced peanut butter trick, have you tried that yet?

Why not just put it in a sack and beat it with a shoe? Or throw it in the blender? Poisoning mice isn't humane as a first step. There are tons of non lethal options to try first.
#17

Dark_Stryke

Feb 04, 2009 11:31:40
Why not just put it in a sack and beat it with a shoe? Or throw it in the blender? Poisoning mice isn't humane as a first step. There are tons of non lethal options to try first.

Hey, the mouse is breaking and entering. For all I know, it wants to murder me. I'm fully within my rights to kill it.
#18

cottonmather

Feb 04, 2009 11:32:37
Hey, the mouse is breaking and entering. For all I know, it wants to murder me. I'm fully within my rights to kill it.

You watched Bill O'Reilly last night. Didn't you?
#19

Dark_Stryke

Feb 04, 2009 11:35:00
You watched Bill O'Reilly last night. Didn't you?

Who? Does he support killing those evil murderous mice? I'm all for that.
#20

cottonmather

Feb 04, 2009 11:36:30
Who? Does he support killing those evil murderous mice? I'm all for that.

No. He just had a segment last night on being able to kill people who break into your house. One of those deals where there was a scenario in the news, and he brought in two correspondants with legal background to give viewers a run down. Then he warned anyone who broke into his house, that he would kill them.
#21

knights_disciple

Feb 04, 2009 11:53:22
No. He just had a segment last night on being able to kill people who break into your house. One of those deals where there was a scenario in the news, and he brought in two correspondants with legal background to give viewers a run down. Then he warned anyone who broke into his house, that he would kill them.

Of course, it's not like the mouse is there to spread goodwill.
It's going to try to eat your food, your clothes, paper, etc.
It's a filthy animal that spreads disease.
There are millions of them out there.
A couple (or couple dozen) dead mice won't upset an ecosystem
I say kill the filthy rodents ASAP, before they breed.
#22

Cpt_Micha

Feb 04, 2009 11:56:01
Why not just put it in a sack and beat it with a shoe? Or throw it in the blender? Poisoning mice isn't humane as a first step. There are tons of non lethal options to try first.

Because arsenic is a much more passive method. You have to catch the mouse to beat it with a shoe, and the blender not only has this issue but one of cleanliness as well as you are blending up a mouse in a cooking appliance.

Mice don't deserve humane treatment. They're rodents. Plague Carriers. You don't want to try "non lethal means" with that in mind. Let alone them biting.
#23

minja_dup

Feb 04, 2009 12:39:31
Don't forget to always wear the proper protection.
#24

CCS

Feb 04, 2009 12:49:13
If you've got one mouse you've got plenty more....

Get yourself a box of Decon.
#25

toastedamphibian

Feb 04, 2009 18:45:49
Good god people! Did any of you bother to read the OP?

**** man, he's not looking for ways to avoid rodent born disease!
He's asking if he is taking all the precautions necessary to avoid his rodent friend picking up human born disease.
#26

minja_dup

Feb 04, 2009 18:48:53
Good god people! Did any of you bother to read the OP?

**** man, he's not looking for ways to avoid rodent born disease!
He's asking if he is taking all the precautions necessary to avoid his rodent friend picking up human born disease.

That is why I suggested protection, all kinds of nasty diseases.... ;)
#27

EscherEnigma

Feb 04, 2009 19:00:01
hey, the dead mice don't need to worry about disease, now do they?
#28

toastedamphibian

Feb 04, 2009 19:13:39
hey, the dead mice don't need to worry about disease, now do they?

I don't know. Ask pigknight about diseases in the void.
#29

joni-san

Feb 04, 2009 19:20:00
A person who is worried about the mouse. This is both interesting and heartwarming.

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-Joni
#30

EscherEnigma

Feb 04, 2009 19:38:28
Hey, I worry about the health of the mice. I worry that if they keep getting into my baking chocolate they'll get little mousey heart attacks. I'm all about their safety.
#31

doomsought

Feb 04, 2009 20:08:36
Not as much as it does to you. Get an electric mouse trap so you don't have to touch the body.
#32

minja_dup

Feb 04, 2009 20:57:32
Hey, I worry about the health of the mice. I worry that if they keep getting into my baking chocolate they'll get little mousey heart attacks. I'm all about their safety.

You made a character sketch for your edition wars character.

EE you are TOO cool.
#33

toastedamphibian

Feb 04, 2009 21:20:11
You made a character sketch for your edition wars character.

EE you are TOO cool.

Strangely, he also made a sketch of me.
#34

sheihel

Feb 05, 2009 0:15:34
The only way I got rid of mice was to move. Half my kitchen became unusable for food storage. I named them all "albert" because nothing would touch them.
#35

dirtyfrank

Feb 05, 2009 0:20:33
The only way I got rid of mice was to move. Half my kitchen became unusable for food storage. I named them all "albert" because nothing would touch them.

The OP doesn't want to get rid of the mice but instead wishes to protect the mice.
#36

space_dragon

Feb 05, 2009 0:27:27
Nuke yourself from orbit. Its the only way for the mouse to be sure.
#37

dirtyfrank

Feb 05, 2009 0:54:00
Move to a new house and sell your current one to the mice. Then you can still keep in contact with them and you don't have to constantly worry about getting them sick.
#38

ADHadh

Feb 05, 2009 5:12:25
I'd suggest building a trap similar to one made by my grandpa (worked great until my bro lost it), but after reading some of the previous posts I assumed I would look heartless.
#39

minja_dup

Feb 05, 2009 18:26:33
Nuke yourself from orbit. Its the only way for the mouse to be sure.

:heehee

Just be sure to build a fallout shelter for the mouse first.
#40

minja_dup

Feb 06, 2009 9:26:45
POISON!

Does the trick every time!

Kind of drastic don't you think, poisoning yourself to save a mouse. Besides, won't he just get sick off your dead body laying around? Who will clean it up?

No I think poison is a bad decision.
#41

dirtyfrank

Feb 06, 2009 9:43:37
Kind of drastic don't you think, poisoning yourself to save a mouse. Besides, won't he just get sick off your dead body laying around? Who will clean it up?

No I think poison is a bad decision.

This is fine as long as the mice have a gerbil or hamster to taste test your dead body.
#42

aluman

Feb 06, 2009 11:59:39
Do you live in a third world country? If not, it's practically nil. You're more likely to catch something from your boss or your pets.

Just so you know, New Mexico (In the US) actually still has the occasional plague case, and Haunta Virus is a yearly concern both of which are rat/mice vectored. But as the OP was asking about giving dieases to mice the simple answer is: Mice thrive where humans do.
#43

EscherEnigma

Feb 06, 2009 12:30:30
Just so you know, New Mexico (In the US) actually still has the occasional plague case, and Haunta Virus is a yearly concern both of which are rat/mice vectored. But as the OP was asking about giving dieases to mice the simple answer is: Mice thrive where humans do.

So you're saying I should use fire? (Check my location)
#44

aluman

Feb 06, 2009 23:17:15
So you're saying I should use fire? (Check my location)

Wow, I live in grants, you are shockingly not far from me.

and yes. Fire, poison. Kill, and remove the caracasses without touching them. Though honestly, most plague cases happen around the border (The one last year was Lordsburg I believe), and its bit early for hanta virus.

Edited Correction> Inadvernt misleading, its northern new mexico where the kid got it last year.

Hanta Virus <-- this is actually more lethal than the plague, but still.
Plague The map is misleading its two main areas the 'four corners' areas of Utah/New Mexico/Az/Colorado and the extreme northern edges of Washington. the last doesn't produce many cases of plague. The New Mexico area of the first is the largest producers of plague cases (9 of the 11 last year were from New Mexico).

These two dieases alone is why I always advise friends relatives and strangers on the net in New Mexico to kill rodents and dispose them without touching the bodies.