"I'm living in a [expletive] small town full of people that hate me over here and, you know, I'm trying to [expletive]; I'm trying to [expletive] work my way up into a fight and now I'm the most disrespectful piece of [expletive] person that walks the earth and I deserve to have my [expletive] beat, that I deserve to have the [expletive] beat out of me and I'm just this disgusting person."
Speaking directly to St-Pierre, Diaz said, "Check it out [expletive], I pulled up to a stop light the other day and some [expletive] 40-year-old lady, some soccer mom, sticks her head out the window and she's like, 'I hope GSP beats your [expletive].' We're in [expletive] Lodi, [Calif.] [expletive]. I'm like, 'Are you serious?' We are in the bull's-eye right now. You hope to beat my [expletive]? That's [expletive] wonderful.
Then there is Gracies excuse for the ramblings of Diaz who was probably high. Seriously, you want to be respected, you have to earn that respect. Acting like an ass isn't going to help.
I saw this article about Diaz punching a speed bag for 23 minutes. If only GSP moved like a speed bag1, Diaz may have a chance.
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That is, stand in front of Nick and not move at all or fight back
I don't like GSP... because everybody else does.
Yeah, if they have a problem with Nick's image they need to talk to Nick. He did have a point about the flight, though. Diaz is gonna help make them a ton of money. There's no reason for a coach seat.
Well, Dana could just be getting back at him. I mean, he will be making them a lot of money when the fight happens, but how much money did he cost them when he didn't show up to the previous press conferences, and when he got suspended for being a pot-head? Dana probably thought that it wasn't worth the price of the ticket for a guy that may not show up.
Besides, if Nick and Gracie have such a problem with Nick flying in coach, they can pony up the money for a first class ticket. I'm sure Cesar Gracie has made a good amount off of his fighters. He can afford to pay for Nick's ticket.
I hope GSP gets beat to hell.
I don't like GSP... because everybody else does.
Dood, that ain't going to happen.
GSP is the champ for a reason.
And Diaz's fighting style is totally countered by GSP's.
I mean really it's Walk up with your chin stuck out, and arms down, talk trash and get your ass beat.
HS, does he not have a sparing partner? jeeze. Even fighting a bag, like that it looks like the bag stood a fair chance of winning, didn't even hold his off hand ready as a guard during that vid either. He should totally just practice his unique style of walk up chin out arms wide.
I hope GSP gets beat to hell.
I don't like GSP... because everybody else does.
Like everything else about your life, you're going to be dissapointed.
I hope GSP gets beat to hell...
As some humans say, "Hope in one hand...". I estimate you know the rest of the phrase, RH.
I hope GSP gets beat to hell.
I don't like GSP... because everybody else does.
dood, a Diaz can never be champion. It's just not allowed.
Well, Dana could just be getting back at him. I mean, he will be making them a lot of money when the fight happens, but how much money did he cost them when he didn't show up to the previous press conferences, and when he got suspended for being a pot-head? Dana probably though that it wasn't worth the price of the ticket for a guy that may not show up.
Besides, if Nick and Gracie have such a problem with Nick flying in coach, they can pony up the money for a first class ticket. I'm sure Cesar Gracie has made a good amount off of his fighters. He can afford to pay for Nick's ticket.
True on all counts. I'm sure Gracie could afford an upgrade.
I hope GSP gets beat to hell.
I don't like GSP... because everybody else does.
Dood, that ain't going to happen.
GSP is the champ for a reason.
And Diaz's fighting style is totally countered by GSP's.
*shrug*
So?
I didn't say Diaz was going to win.
I would just like to see him beat GSP so all those people on GSPs dick will start crying.
*shrug*
I hope GSP gets beat to hell...
As some humans say, "Hope in one hand...". I estimate you know the rest of the phrase, RH.
Yes, yes... I know the rest of it.
It's one of my ol' mans favorite sayings.
I heard it a million times while growing up.
Did ya ... did ya ever test it?
No.
I'm intelligent and educated.
And you're also no kinda fun.
I'm too aggravated and annoyed to be much fun right now.
Also just found out that my company is going to start doing quarterly urine tests.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I'll be fine by the time next quarter rolls around. However, my co-worker, who has to drop a urine tomorrow, is sweating bullets right now.
Yeah, I am agitated and pissed off right now... I'll be no fun at all...
And I know several ways to beat a urine test, none of which are comfortable.
I may need to stop entirely.
But what really sucks is that my buddy has to drop tomorrow... and I don't think he's going to make the cut unless he takes measures... none of which, as I said before, is comfortable.
Lamez.
Yeah, I'm not sweating it yet as my name can't be called until next quarter, but I'm a heavy smoker.
And I know several ways to beat a urine test, none of which are comfortable.
Just don't try anything that involves a waffle iron.
Or do it, and post pics.
Meh, scheduled is nothin'. We have to submit to randoms (and yes, I have been pulled). I mean, that's no problem for me since I gave all that stuff up a long time ago (aside from the fact that I find the practice invasive, demeaning and insulting) but it's still lame.
Yeah, +1.
Seriously though, sorry to hear thnat RH.
Yeah, sucks to be him.
Yup.
He's been surly all day.
I told him I could help him, he just has to decide how he wants to handle it.
Thing is, he's a good guy what knows what he's doing. He knows how to do his job and does it well.
I just wish the company didn't go looking for trouble.
Well, actually, the company has to do it. New state regulation in WV. Go figure.
Yeah, I personally see no reason to check someone if they don't have/cause any issues.
That's how I see it.
Not my decision to make, however.
Unfortunately, not mine either.
And you're also no kinda fun.
I'm too aggravated and annoyed to be much fun right now.
Also just found out that my company is going to start doing quarterly urine tests.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I'll be fine by the time next quarter rolls around. However, my co-worker, who has to drop a urine tomorrow, is sweating bullets right now.
Yeah, I am agitated and pissed off right now... I'll be no fun at all...
Maybe your new resident title should be "Resident Diaz brother from another mother."
And you're also no kinda fun.
I'm too aggravated and annoyed to be much fun right now.
Also just found out that my company is going to start doing quarterly urine tests.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I'll be fine by the time next quarter rolls around. However, my co-worker, who has to drop a urine tomorrow, is sweating bullets right now.
Yeah, I am agitated and pissed off right now... I'll be no fun at all...
Maybe your new resident title should be "Resident Diaz brother from another mother."
So when he gets in the ring is he going to change his combat style?
From walking up arms wide chin out to running to whatever opposite corner GSP is at?
So when he gets in the ring is he going to change his combat style?
From walking up arms wide chin out to running to whatever opposite corner GSP is at?
Impossible. The Diaz brothers only know how to go forward in a straight line. Nick will walk straight into the take down and spend the entire fight on his back getting punched.
Excuses for loss start early.
Meh, he's probably right.
Impossible. The Diaz brothers only know how to go forward in a straight line. Nick will walk straight into the take down and spend the entire fight on his back getting punched.
And elbowed. Can't forget the elbows.
Meh, he's probably right.
Highly unlikely.
And elbowed. Can't forget the elbows.
GSP will probably hit Diaz with his shoulder, as he has done to everyone else whenever he gets in someone's guard and can't punch or elbow them. GSP is just too much for Diaz. Diaz might have amazing endurance, but he isn't active enough. GSP is constantly moving, constantly striking. It's the reason he doesn't get stood up when he takes people down and holds them there.
Highly unlikely.
With rehabbin' a 'sploded knee in the mix? I think you need to drop that to just unlikely. ;) Lotsa peeps cheat. Remember that one dood what everyone thought was a paragon of sportsmanship? He, like, rode a bike or something? ;)
GSP will probably hit Diaz with his shoulder, as he has done to everyone else whenever he gets in someone's guard and can't punch or elbow them. GSP is just too much for Diaz. Diaz might have amazing endurance, but he isn't active enough. GSP is constantly moving, constantly striking. It's the reason he doesn't get stood up when takes people down and holds them there.
Yeah, Diaz won't be able to get up when GSP plants his ass on the mat - and he will, too. Nick's got some BJJ but so does GSP. This'll probably end up another grind but who cares? Diaz will probably look like hamburger when it's over. Remember Fitch? Hell, GSP liked Fitch.
With rehabbin' a 'sploded knee in the mix? I think you need to drop that to just unlikely. ;)
I'm sure they gave him some type of steroid medication during the time he was recuperating. GSP doesn't seem like the type of guy that would be using to get an edge on his competition. He also hasn't had a roid-rage episode. He seems too calm for that kind of thing.
Lotsa peeps cheat. Remember that one dood what everyone thought was a paragon of sportsmanship? He, like, rode a bike or something? ;)
Yeah, but Lance was a jerk to begin with. He also only had one testicle. And seriously, that guy was always on the verge of roid-rage.
Yeah, Diaz won't be able to get up when GSP plants his ass on the mat - and he will, too. Nick's got some BJJ but so does GSP. This'll probably end up another grind but who cares? Diaz will probably look like hamburger when it's over. Remember Fitch? Hell, GSP liked Fitch.
Yeah, pretty much. It'll be GSP taking Diaz down and turning his face into something resembling JDS after his fight with Cain.
Hopefully after GSP thoroughly trounces Diaz, Dana hands Diaz over to Rory McDonald. That would be awesome to watch.
Diaz is so vastly out classed, this was definitely just a PR fight to give the fans what we want, and that's to see Diaz get all but murdered in the ring.
I'm sure they gave him some type of steroid medication during the time he was recuperating. GSP doesn't seem like the type of guy that would be using to get an edge on his competition. He also hasn't had a roid-rage episode. He seems too calm for that kind of thing.
Bro, he's nearly exploded talking to Nick a couple of times now. There's articles out there that focus on how GSP is a totally different cat right now. You think that's only cuz Nick is so good at pushin' his buttons?
Honestly, I doubt he's a juicer. His physique does give me pause, though. He's either a genetic freak or a roider. Still, I don't think he juices. Didn't think he greased, either. But who knows? I mean, Mark McGuire broke all of our hearts.
Yeah, but Lance was a jerk to begin with. He also only had one testicle. And seriously, that guy was always on the verge of roid-rage.
He probably lost his nut from doping. And he was a jerk but nobody (other than the peeps that knew) suspected him of doping. People wrote tons of articles explaining why he wasn't a doper. Talkin' 'bout all his passed tests and the peeps that had an axe to gind bein' the ones what accused him. Turns out he was a doper even though he fooled most people.
Yeah, pretty much. It'll be GSP taking Diaz down and turning his face into something resembling JDS after his fight with Cain.
Hopefully after GSP thoroughly trounces Diaz, Dana hands Diaz over to Rory McDonald. That would be awesome to watch.
That'd be sweet.
Bro, he's nearly exploded talking to Nick a couple of times now. There's articles out there that focus on how GSP is a totally different cat right now. You think that's only cuz Nick is so good at pushin' his buttons?
Nearly isn't roid-rage.
Honestly, I doubt he's a juicer. His physique does give me pause, though. He's either a genetic freak or a roider. Still, I don't think he juices. Didn't think he greased, either. But who knows? I mean, Mark McGuire broke all of our hearts.
When you have as much money as GSP, you can hire a group of people that know how to get you into the best shape. I read an article where GSP was talking about his weight cuts. The guy cuts about 20 lbs to meet weight. After weigh-ins, he gets some prteing shake and rehydrates. He gets high protein, high calorie stuff and gets back up to his weight by fight night (3 nights after weigh-ins). GSP steps into the ring between 190-200 lbs.
He probably lost his nut from doping. And he was a jerk but nobody (other than the peeps that knew) suspected him of doping. People wrote tons of articles explaining why he wasn't a doper. Talkin' 'bout all his passed tests and the peeps that had an axe to gind bein' the ones what accused him. Turns out he was a doper even though he fooled most people.
There were plenty of people who suspected he was using. Some people didn't want to believe it.
That'd be sweet.
That would be awesome. Too bad McDonald got injured. He won't be fighting Condit tomorrow. Instead Hendricks ill fight Condit. That'll be an interesting fight. Hopefully by the time that McDonald comes back, Diaz will have healed up and be tossed in the ring against McDonald. Some people think that Nate is a better fighter than Nick. Rory destroyed Nate. Imagine what he would do to Nick.
Nearly isn't roid-rage.
dood, this is GSP we're talking about. Nearly is his roud rage!
When you have as much money as GSP, you can hire a group of people that know how to get you into the best shape. I read an article where GSP was talking about his weight cuts. The guy cuts about 20 lbs to meet weight. After weigh-ins, he gets some prteing shake and rehydrates. He gets high protein, high calorie stuff and gets back up to his weight by fight night (3 nights after weigh-ins). GSP steps into the ring between 190-200 lbs.
And that's messed up. Not much you can do, though. Put the weigh in the day of the fight and you'll have morons dying from dehydration during the bout.
There were plenty of people who suspected he was using. Some people didn't want to believe it.
Nick ain't the only one who thinks GSP juices. ;)
That would be awesome. Too bad McDonald got injured. He won't be fighting Condit tomorrow. Instead Hendricks ill fight Condit. That'll be an interesting fight. Hopefully by the time that McDonald comes back, Diaz will have healed up and be tossed in the ring against McDonald. Some people think that Nate is a better fighter than Nick. Rory destroyed Nate. Imagine what he would do to Nick.
Yeah, this fight is tough to call. Condit is really technical but Hendricks has the kind of power to make all that skill meaningless - and quickly. And yeah, it'd be awesome to see Rory toss Nick all over the mat.
dood, this is GSP we're talking about. Nearly is his roud rage!
Those aren't quality roids then. You would think he could afford the kind that would make him roid-raige like a WWE wrestler.
And that's messed up. Not much you can do, though. Put the weigh in the day of the fight and you'll have morons dying from dehydration during the bout.
Some people can't even recoup within those three days. Look at Jake Shields. He couldn't do it, so he had to juice.
Nick ain't the only one who thinks GSP juices. ;)
If Nick didn't sound like that guy who wants to kill people because of the donkey thing, he'd be more credible. The rest of the people that believe GSP uices are Diaz's fanboys who are mmaking excuses why Nick will lose the fight.
Yeah, this fight is tough to call. Condit is really technical but Hendricks has the kind of power to make all that skill meaningless - and quickly. And yeah, it'd be awesome to see Rory toss Nick all over the mat.
Yup, although Condit can take a punch. Don't forget, Condit also has some good power. This could end up fight of the night.
Those aren't quality roids then. You would think he could afford the kind that would make him roid-raige like a WWE wrestler.
dood, you're forgetting he'd have to have cycled off by now. It's just the roid remnants at this point.
Some people can't even recoup within those three days. Look at Jake Shields. He couldn't do it, so he had to juice.
Yeah, and Rumble Johnson. dood was huge for his class and really good. Too bad he couldn't cut properly.
If Nick didn't sound like that guy who wants to kill people because of the donkey thing, he'd be more credible. The rest of the people that believe GSP uices are Diaz's fanboys who are mmaking excuses why Nick will lose the fight.
And BJ Penn fans. Can't forget BJ Penn fans when it comes to GSP hate.
Yup, although Condit can take a punch. Don't forget, Condit also has some good power. This could end up fight of the night.
Oh yeah, I thought Condit had a real chance against GSP. dood is a quality fighter. This may end up the fight of the year. Two smart guys who really want the shot and have the ability to do real damage while also taking a beating. Sounds good to me. It'd be better than the main event if the main event wasn't Nick Diaz taking a beating.
dood, you're forgetting he'd have to have cycled off by now. It's just the roid remnants at this point.
He would have had a roid rage episode before.
Yeah, and Rumble Johnson. dood was huge for his class and really good. Too bad he couldn't cut properly.
Yeah, he went over to another organization and even went up in weight class. He still couldn't meet weight. That guy had some issues with his weight. He was a pretty damn good fighter, but he just couldn't make weight.
And BJ Penn fans. Can't forget BJ Penn fans when it comes to GSP hate.
True, but does BJ have any fans any more?
Oh yeah, I thought Condit had a real chance against GSP. dood is a quality fighter. This may end up the fight of the year. Two smart guys who really want the shot and have the ability to do real damage while also taking a beating. Sounds good to me. It'd be better than the main event if the main event wasn't Nick Diaz taking a beating.
Hendricks won, and both he and Condit got $50,000.00 for fight of the night. I think GSP may finally get someone that can challenge him. Hendricks has some good wrestling. He took Condit down throughout the fight. Unfortunately, Hendricks wasn't able to do much once he got Condit down. Condit kept on striking from the bottom. It was a close fight, but I think Codit did a bit more. Hendricks mainly took him down and tried to hold him.
Hendricks also looked like he gassed out after the second round. He may want to get in better shape for the GSP fight. If three rounds is wearing him out like that, he is going to be dead by round five. Hell, he will probably be dead by the end of round three. That'll give GSP the advantage.
As for the GSP VS Diaz fight, as expected, RH was disapointed.
For his next fight, Nick is going to take on Uncle Sam.
I was glad to see Marquardt lost, heh. And yeah, GSP will have his hands full with Hendricks. dood is tough. But yeah, if he's got cardio issues that will be a problem.
So what's next? Rory and Nick? Rory and Condit (again)? Condit and Nick (again)? I wanna see Rory and Nick. That'd be awesome.
I watched the prelims. Overall pretty ok. That Cote fight was pretty good - though I thought he lost. And that one stoppage was terrible. dood stopped the fight as the guy what got dropped was standing back up - and he was obviously aware since he was protesting the stoppage as it was happening. He was probably done but he should have had a chance.
I didn't get to see the prelims. I was at my university until 10:00 pm... on a Saturday. I missed most of the card. I got to the sports bar I saw the fight at just after the fight before the Marquart fight ended.
I was glad to see Marquardt lost, heh.
Yeah, you could just tell someone was getting knocked out in that fight. Ellenburger looked like he was on the hunt. He was just walking Marqurt down. Ellenburger just looked way too confident. You knew he was going to win it. He didn't seem afraid of anything Marquart had to offer.
And yeah, GSP will have his hands full with Hendricks. dood is tough. But yeah, if he's got cardio issues that will be a problem.
Yup. I think the thing that let Hendricks win the Condit fight was his wrestling. He wasn'tr afraid of getting in close. In fact, he needed to get in there close to have a chance against Condit. Condit had a huge reach advantage. He also got Hendricks with a few good shots. I couldn't have seen that fight go either way. Condit did a lot more when he was taken down. He hit Hendricks, and neutralized Hendricks's ground and pound.Still, I understand why the judges gave it to Hendricks. He took Condit down often.
As for his fight with GSP, yeah, Hendricks needs to work on his Cardio. GSP has some crazy wrestling. He has taken on top level wrestlers and beat them. He has taken top level jitsu BJJ guys and made them look like children. And GSP has underrated striking. He is quick and ellusive when he hits. After the fight was over, while they were still in te ring, Diaz told Rogan that GSP kept hitting him with the superman punch and Diaz's timing kept on getting thrown off. Diaz wasn't able to do much with his striking. He was supposed to have this amazing boxing. I read somewhere Diaz threw around 41 significant strikes while GSP threw around 120 or something like that.
I also read an article where someone (I forget who) said that while Hendricks has a great amateur wrestling background, that doesn't mean its going to translate well in MMA. There are only a few wrestling moves that are actually usable and productive in MMA. So while GSP is going to have a challenge with Hendricks, Hendricks is going to have a hell of a time trying to beat GSP. Hell, GSP ruined Koscheck's eye and completely dominated the wrestling game. Hendricks fought Koscheck to a descision.
So what's next? Rory and Nick? Rory and Condit (again)? Condit and Nick (again)? I wanna see Rory and Nick. That'd be awesome.
I really hope so. Rory would give Nick the beating everyone wants Diaz to get. It would be awesome. Hell, Rory made Nate look like the idiot he is. Nate got slam after slam after slam. zzhe had nothing to offer in that fight.
I didn't get to see the prelims. I was at my university until 10:00 pm... on a Saturday. I missed most of the card. I got to the sports bar I saw the fight at just after the fight before the Marquart fight ended.
You didn't miss much. Just a bad stoppage and a couple of ok fights - with a bad decision. As much as Cote wanted it and as much as I like the dood he shouldn't have got the win. He dominated early and then faded. The other dood wobbled him a few times in the second and third, too. Still, it wasn't a bad fight to watch.
Yeah, you could just tell someone was getting knocked out in that fight. Ellenburger looked like he was on the hunt. He was just walking Marqurt down. Ellenburger just looked way too confident. You knew he was going to win it. He didn't seem afraid of anything Marquart had to offer.
I didn't think Marquardt had much of a chance considering how badly Saffedine beat him down in his last Strikeforce fight. I mean, Saffedine kicked his ass. I bet Nate's leg was still all busted up on Saturday - that's how bad that no-name beat him up.
Yup. I think the thing that let Hendricks win the Condit fight was his wrestling. He wasn'tr afraid of getting in close. In fact, he needed to get in there close to have a chance against Condit. Condit had a huge reach advantage. He also got Hendricks with a few good shots. I couldn't have seen that fight go either way. Condit did a lot more when he was taken down. He hit Hendricks, and neutralized Hendricks's ground and pound.Still, I understand why the judges gave it to Hendricks. He took Condit down often.
As for his fight with GSP, yeah, Hendricks needs to work on his Cardio. GSP has some crazy wrestling. He has taken on top level wrestlers and beat them. He has taken top level jitsu BJJ guys and made them look like children. And GSP has underrated striking. He is quick and ellusive when he hits. After the fight was over, while they were still in te ring, Diaz told Rogan that GSP kept hitting him with the superman punch and Diaz's timing kept on getting thrown off. Diaz wasn't able to do much with his striking. He was supposed to have this amazing boxing. I read somewhere Diaz threw around 41 significant strikes while GSP threw around 120 or something like that.
I also read an article where someone (I forget who) said that while Hendricks has a great amateur wrestling background, that doesn't mean its going to translate well in MMA. There are only a few wrestling moves that are actually usable and productive in MMA. So while GSP is going to have a challenge with Hendricks, Hendricks is going to have a hell of a time trying to beat GSP. Hell, GSP ruined Koscheck's eye and completely dominated the wrestling game. Hendricks fought Koscheck to a descision.
Yeah, GSP is on another level when it comes to MMA wrestling. As he said, he decides where the fight takes place. There's no one else in the UFC that can truly make that call against any style. He takes strikers down and keeps wrestlers on their feet. And yeah, his stand up is pretty good when he wants it to be. He destroyed Fitch's face (among others).
Both Diaz brothers get all sorts of props for their uber awesome boxing. All it ever looked like to me was half power sparring 'punches'. I guess the idea is that they add up or something - probably eventually boring your opponent into a coma. Never thought they were that great. What they've got more than most is talk ... and heart. You can't deny they have real heart. They whine alot but they don't quit. I wish they would, but, you know.
I really hope so. Rory would give Nick the beating everyone wants Diaz to get. It would be awesome. Hell, Rory made Nate look like the idiot he is. Nate got slam after slam after slam. zzhe had nothing to offer in that fight.
Yup, he got rag dolled for the whole thing. I'd like to see the same thing happen to Nick.
You didn't miss much. Just a bad stoppage and a couple of ok fights - with a bad decision. As much as Cote wanted it and as much as I like the dood he shouldn't have got the win. He dominated early and then faded. The other dood wobbled him a few times in the second and third, too. Still, it wasn't a bad fight to watch.
Yeah, that's what I heard. Oh well, no big loss. At least I got there in time to see the fights I really wanted to see. That and have some beers.
I didn't think Marquardt had much of a chance considering how badly Saffedine beat him down in his last Strikeforce fight. I mean, Saffedine kicked his ass. I bet Nate's leg was still all busted up on Saturday - that's how bad that no-name beat him up.
I missed that fight. Strikeforce didn't really have much to interest me. Even that last Cormier fight was lame. Hell, cormier looked fat and out of shape. He had a hard time with a no-name fighter. I honestly don't see him being able to make weight to fight Jones. He is going to have to lose way too much weight and keep it off.
Yeah, GSP is on another level when it comes to MMA wrestling. As he said, he decides where the fight takes place. There's no one else in the UFC that can truly make that call against any style. He takes strikers down and keeps wrestlers on their feet. And yeah, his stand up is pretty good when he wants it to be. He destroyed Fitch's face (among others).
Yeah, it almost seems like we've heard this before. Everyone that has a wrestling background is seen as the the guy to challenge and beat GSP. I just don't think that SP gets the credit that he deserve. That guy seriously controls the fight from start to finish. After the loss to Sera, he came back and was more cautious, but that has worked for him. He hasn't been in a bad position. The only guy who got close was Condit, and just a few seconds after Condit took GSP down with the kick and started to look as if he was going to win, GSP reversed him and ended up on top landing strikes.
I think what Hendricks has is that he can take a hit as he walks in. Still, I think GSP will out work Hendricks and wear him out like he does everyone else. Also, GSP will probably be keep Hendricks at a distance. GSP has a 76 inch reach while Hendricks has a 69 inch reach.
Both Diaz brothers get all sorts of props for their uber awesome boxing. All it ever looked like to me was half power sparring 'punches'. I guess the idea is that they add up or something - probably eventually boring your opponent into a coma. Never thought they were that great. What they've got more than most is talk ... and heart. You can't deny they have real heart. They whine alot but they don't quit. I wish they would, but, you know.
Yeah, they don't really have good boxing. They look more like they are thug-boxing instead of the high level boxing everyone credits them with. They have heart, but that's only because they lack brains. If they would jjust get some other strategy other than walk in a straih line, talk trash, thrown punches, block punches with face, they may do better.
Yup, he got rag dolled for the whole thing. I'd like to see the same thing happen to Nick.
There are soccer moms who totally agree with you.
Yeah, that's what I heard. Oh well, no big loss. At least I got there in time to see the fights I really wanted to see. That and have some beers.
Yeah, they weren't anything special. I had high hopes for the first fight (Cruikshank vs some other karate type dood) but they were too cautious for most of it. No really cool kicks or nothin'. Kinda lame.
I missed that fight. Strikeforce didn't really have much to interest me. Even that last Cormier fight was lame. Hell, cormier looked fat and out of shape. He had a hard time with a no-name fighter. I honestly don't see him being able to make weight to fight Jones. He is going to have to lose way too much weight and keep it off.
That fight was pretty good - if you like watching Marquardt get completely outclassed for 25 mins (I think it was for the title). His leg was deeeeeee-stroyed. Couldn't check a leg kick to save his life. Couldn't take Saffedine down, either. I think he wanted to stand but got too beat up. By the time he realized he needed to take it to the mat he was too gimped up to have a prayer of making it happen.
And yeah, that last Cormier fight was awful. So, so bad. And he thinks he can beat Jones? Hell, he was fat in that fight and it was at HW. A cut to 205 may kill him. It'll certainly put every local fast food joint out of business.
Yeah, it almost seems like we've heard this before. Everyone that has a wrestling background is seen as the the guy to challenge and beat GSP. I just don't think that SP gets the credit that he deserve. That guy seriously controls the fight from start to finish. After the loss to Sera, he came back and was more cautious, but that has worked for him. He hasn't been in a bad position. The only guy who got close was Condit, and just a few seconds after Condit took GSP down with the kick and started to look as if he was going to win, GSP reversed him and ended up on top landing strikes.
I think what Hendricks has is that he can take a hit as he walks in. Still, I think GSP will out work Hendricks and wear him out like he does everyone else. Also, GSP will probably be keep Hendricks at a distance. GSP has a 76 inch reach while Hendricks has a 69 inch reach.
I don't get it. His wrestling MMA is the best. It's obvious but people still don't seem to totally respect it.
I think Hendricks has a shot mostly cuz he's not dumb and he's got huge power. He can end anyone's day with one shot. So yeah, GSP will probably grind his ass out.
Yeah, they don't really have good boxing. They look more like they are thug-boxing instead of the high level boxing everyone credits them with. They have heart, but that's only because they lack brains. If they would jjust get some other strategy other than walk in a straih line, talk trash, thrown punches, block punches with face, they may do better.
Yup. And they're Gracie black belts who wanna knock people out. Why? If your BJJ is so good, use it. They're like Gurgel like that. dood had amazing BJJ but wanted to stand and bang with everyone. Stupid. That's why GSP keeps winning. He doesn't have some set way he wants to win, he fights the way that gives him the best chance to make it happen. I mean, I totally believe he could have beaten Hardy standing. But why tempt it? dood has massive power and no wrestling. Take him down, grind it out. A Diaz bro would try to fight him standing up. It's just retarded.
There are soccer moms who totally agree with you.
Nice.
That fight was pretty good - if you like watching Marquardt get completely outclassed for 25 mins (I think it was for the title). His leg was deeeeeee-stroyed. Couldn't check a leg kick to save his life. Couldn't take Saffedine down, either. I think he wanted to stand but got too beat up. By the time he realized he needed to take it to the mat he was too gimped up to have a prayer of making it happen.
I've alays wondered why so many fighters don't use the leg kick more often. It is such an effective strike. You take out a fighter's leg and he can't shoot for take downs effectively, can't defend them, and can't defend the take down, and they can't throw powerful strikes. And why don't more fighter's check those leg kicks? Look at what Shogun did to Machida. He hit him with leg kicks until Machida lost his ability to jump in and out.
And yeah, that last Cormier fight was awful. So, so bad. And he thinks he can beat Jones? Hell, he was fat in that fight and it was at HW. A cut to 205 may kill him. It'll certainly put every local fast food joint out of business.
Yeah, that guy looked as if he got out of the buffet line to go fight. Forget fighting Jones. Cormier's biggest challenge is fighting the urge to gorge himself on food.
I don't get it. His wrestling MMA is the best. It's obvious but people still don't seem to totally respect it.
I think Hendricks has a shot mostly cuz he's not dumb and he's got huge power. He can end anyone's day with one shot. So yeah, GSP will probably grind his ass out.
Yeah, GSP is going to do whatever GSP wants to do. Pretty much what he does every fight. Hendricks better work on his cardio if he wants to have a chance. GSP will probably ground and pound for the fisrt three rounds. He may wait until round four or five and then start the striking game. By that point Hendriks may be so worn out, he isn't going to put up much of a fight. Hopefully he trains for those championship rounds. If he doesn't, he is in for a rough fight... and a beting like everyone else GSP has fought.
Yup. And they're Gracie black belts who wanna knock people out. Why? If your BJJ is so good, use it. They're like Gurgel like that. dood had amazing BJJ but wanted to stand and bang with everyone. Stupid. That's why GSP keeps winning. He doesn't have some set way he wants to win, he fights the way that gives him the best chance to make it happen. I mean, I totally believe he could have beaten Hardy standing. But why tempt it? dood has massive power and no wrestling. Take him down, grind it out. A Diaz bro would try to fight him standing up. It's just retarded.
Cesar Gracie doesn't much care as long as he gets paid. If you listen to his advice during the fight it's terrible. He just keps telling his fighters they are doing great and they are winning and the other guy is tired, when in actuallity the other guy has won ever single round.
I've alays wondered why so many fighters don't use the leg kick more often. It is such an effective strike. You take out a fighter's leg and he can't shoot for take downs effectively, can't defend them, and can't defend the take down, and they can't throw powerful strikes. And why don't more fighter's check those leg kicks? Look at what Shogun did to Machida. He hit him with leg kicks until Machida lost his ability to jump in and out.
A lot of guys are afraid of getting taken down. Thing is, if you set the kick up you probably won't get taken down.
Yeah, that guy looked as if he got out of the buffet line to go fight. Forget fighting Jones. Cormier's biggest challenge is fighting the urge to gorge himself on food.
That and, you know, he didn't look good at all. Like, he's supposed to be this dominant force or something. I didn't see it.
Yeah, GSP is going to do whatever GSP wants to do. Pretty much what he does every fight. Hendricks better work on his cardio if he wants to have a chance. GSP will probably ground and pound for the fisrt three rounds. He may wait until round four or five and then start the striking game. By that point Hendriks may be so worn out, he isn't going to put up much of a fight. Hopefully he trains for those championship rounds. If he doesn't, he is in for a rough fight... and a beting like everyone else GSP has fought.
Yup. He needs to train cardio and takedown D. Hard. If he can keep on his feet it might not make it to the 4th. GSP is tough but he has been KOd and wobbled. Hendricks has the power to make that a real concern - if he can stay on his feet.
Cesar Gracie doesn't much care as long as he gets paid. If you listen to his advice during the fight it's terrible. He just keps telling his fighters they are doing great and they are winning and the other guy is tired, when in actuallity the other guy has won ever single round.
True. I've heard him telling doods that when it's obvious they were getting destroyed. Thing is, the whole corner seems to always think their dood is winning no matter what. Overconfident.
A lot of guys are afraid of getting taken down. Thing is, if you set the kick up you probably won't get taken down.
Yup, most of them are just afraid to be taken down. That just limits them severely.
That and, you know, he didn't look good at all. Like, he's supposed to be this dominant force or something. I didn't see it.
Didn't see it, like at all. It was sad. I watched that fight, and I was wondering what the hell happened to Josh Barnet? If Cormier beat him so handedly, why couldn't Cormier beat the no name he was fighting? I think he better get himself in shape and train for Frank Mir. If he fights like that with Mir, Mir is taking Cormir's arm home (and career) with him.
Yup. He needs to train cardio and takedown D. Hard. If he can keep on his feet it might not make it to the 4th. GSP is tough but he has been KOd and wobbled. Hendricks has the power to make that a real concern - if he can stay on his feet.
Yeah, much easier said than done. Let's see if Hendricks can stop the take down. I don't know if he is going to have enough time to get his cardio up enough to last 4 or 5 rounds with GSP. He may not need to, but he better train for it in case.
True. I've heard him telling doods that when it's obvious they were getting destroyed. Thing is, the whole corner seems to always think their dood is winning no matter what. Overconfident.
Either overconfident or just really bad at being a coach. Seriously, Cesar Gracie came out saying that Nick was in the best shape of his life, and that he was super motivated and ready to go out there nd put o a fight and win. After the fight Nick admitted he wasn't in the best shape. Why do these guys keep training with the Cesar Gracie camp? It's obvious that he can't get them above mid-tier fighter abilities. Jake shields got beat. Nate got beat. Nick got beat. The only one left is Gilbert Melendez, and Benson Henderson is going to violate him the same way he did Nate.
Didn't see it, like at all. It was sad. I watched that fight, and I was wondering what the hell happened to Josh Barnet? If Cormier beat him so handedly, why couldn't Cormier beat the no name he was fighting? I think he better get himself in shape and train for Frank Mir. If he fights like that with Mir, Mir is taking Cormir's arm home (and career) with him.
Mir is kinda teh suk now, though. If Cormier can punch Mir in his face, oh, twice he should be ok.
Srsly, though, Cormier didn't look anything close to the same level as Mir. Yeah, much easier said than done. Let's see if Hendricks can stop the take down. I don't know if he is going to have enough time to get his cardio up enough to last 4 or 5 rounds with GSP. He may not need to, but he better train for it in case.
Yeah, he's got an uphill battle but he can win it. He's definitely got a better shot than Diaz did. I just read an article that said Condit outclassed him standing, though. If that's true, he's in trouble. He needs to be better than Condit standing to take GSP out ... if he can stay up.
Either overconfident or just really bad at being a coach. Seriously, Cesar Gracie came out saying that Nick was in the best shape of his life, and that he was super motivated and ready to go out there nd put o a fight and win. After the fight Nick admitted he wasn't in the best shape. Why do these guys keep training with the Cesar Gracie camp? It's obvious that he can't get them above mid-tier fighter abilities. Jake shields got beat. Nate got beat. Nick got beat. The only one left is Gilbert Melendez, and Benson Henderson is going to violate him the same way he did Nate.
Yeah, that camp isn't very good. I mean, look at the personalities for a reason. The fighters have no class. They're allowed to behave that way. It's like all they do it pat the fighters on the head and say 'you're awesome, bro' and then everyone believes their own hype. I bet Nate would be good if he was in a different camp. I think he's actually got talent. He just doesn't know how to apply it and, well, he's got the Diaz disadvantage: fighting stupid makes you a real man.
Mir is kinda teh suk now, though. If Cormier can punch Mir in his face, oh, twice he should be ok.
I know Mir hasn't been good in a while. A few punches to the face and he crumbles. However, Cormir didn't look like he could do even that in his last fight. It's going to be the battle of has-been VS never-was.
Yeah, he's got an uphill battle but he can win it. He's definitely got a better shot than Diaz did. I just read an article that said Condit outclassed him standing, though. If that's true, he's in trouble. He needs to be better than Condit standing to take GSP out ... if he can stay up.
To be fair, Hendricks did break his hand early on in the fight. Still, Hendricks didn't do much once he took Condit down. Condit was always active, hitting Hendricks with everything while Condit was on his back. Hendricks held him down for a bit, but Condit popped right back up.Besides, everyone knew that Condit was the more technical striker of the two.
Yeah, that camp isn't very good. I mean, look at the personalities for a reason. The fighters have no class. They're allowed to behave that way. It's like all they do it pat the fighters on the head and say 'you're awesome, bro' and then everyone believes their own hype. I bet Nate would be good if he was in a different camp. I think he's actually got talent. He just doesn't know how to apply it and, well, he's got the Diaz disadvantage: fighting stupid makes you a real man.
Yeah, Nate would probably be the one guy in that camp that could make something of himself if he got with a good team. As it is, Cesar Gracie's camp is only good for Cesar Gracie's bank account. He will keep stringing them along until they are no longer viable cash cows.
I know Mir hasn't been good in a while. A few punches to the face and he crumbles. However, Cormir didn't look like he could do even that in his last fight. It's going to be the battle of has-been VS never-was.
Yup, not good. Cormier didn't impress in any way. I wouldn't be surprised if Mir knocked him out.
To be fair, Hendricks did break his hand early on in the fight. Still, Hendricks didn't do much once he took Condit down. Condit was always active, hitting Hendricks with everything while Condit was on his back. Hendricks held him down for a bit, but Condit popped right back up.Besides, everyone knew that Condit was the more technical striker of the two.
Yeah and that's what makes me think GSP can handle him. If he handled Condit he shouldn't have too much trouble with a less capable striker. Still, one shot ...
Yeah, Nate would probably be the one guy in that camp that could make something of himself if he got with a good team. As it is, Cesar Gracie's camp is only good for Cesar Gracie's bank account. He will keep stringing them along until they are no longer viable cash cows.
And he's really good at creating insane loyalty somehow. It's too bad for Nate but who really cares? I mean, he's a Diaz.
Yeah, I suppose there's that. I haven't actually seen a recent GSP fight, unfortunately, so I have to rely on what I read. That said, they did mention him getting hit more against Condit. Well, Condit is better than anyone GSP has fought so that makes sense.
Yeah, Condit is the best striker GSP has faced. The guy is very technical. He is also a very smart fighter that, unlike most of his other oppenents, has a good game plan going in.
That said, the Condit fight was the very first fight GSP had after his ACL surgery. His movement was much better agaisnt Diaz. I'm sure it'll be much better agaisnt Hendricks. During the Diaz fight, it was obvious Nick wasn't at GSP's level. GSP went in and ot at hit Diaz whenever he wanted.
The thing Hendricks has going for him is he isn't afraid of getting hit when he goes it for takedowns. He showed that against Condit. Hendricks was able to take Condit down at will, but he ate punches all the way in, down, and after they were down. Condit did a lot more once they where on the ground than Hendricks. It's just Hendricks ability to get Condit down that won him the fight.
The question is whether or not Hendricks' wrestling is up to par with GSP's, and if GSP can game plan Hendricks. I'm not sure about the wrestling, but I'm sure GSP and his training camp can come up with a winning game plan against Hendricks.
Interestingly enough, GSP seems to have fought Diaz injured. That may have been the reason he wasn't moving as well as he ususally does.
This also means that if for some insane reason, Diaz is given a rematch against a healed up GSP, he'd have even less of a chance to beat GSP.
What an odd concept.
I'm not sure I read HS's post right.
What an odd concept.
I know, right? You would think that talking trash before, during, and after the fight would automatically win you the fight.
By the way, did you hear about handwrap gate?
Totally. Anyone can take a punch to the face. Only real fighters can take insults and not cry.
So, OTTers are real badasses!
Totally. Anyone can take a punch to the face. Only real fighters can take insults and not cry.
By the way, did you hear about handwrap gate?
Yup. The last I saw, though, was Dana's comments so I thought it was over.
"Jake said he had an issue with his wraps. Maybe something was wrong with his wraps, I don’t know. I ain’t gonna accuse him of anything. I did get hit with one shot that didn’t feel like it was hard, it still opened a cut on my head.”
Except, you know, using shady wraps.
Diaz is such a bag of derp. I love how he said GSP is a wrestler so he shouldn't be able to hurt anyone. Did he miss the carnage GSP brought to Fitch and Kos or something? What an idiot.Yup. The last I saw, though, was Dana's comments so I thought it was over.
Except it's Nick and the Gracie camp we are talking about here. They can't seem to ever stop talking.
"Jake said he had an issue with his wraps. Maybe something was wrong with his wraps, I don’t know. I ain’t gonna accuse him of anything. I did get hit with one shot that didn’t feel like it was hard, it still opened a cut on my head.”
Except, you know, using shady wraps.
Well, Nick is the same guy that said he wasn't going to make any excuses for losing right before he rattled off a laundry list of excuses for losing.
Except it's Nick and the Gracie camp we are talking about here. They can't seem to ever stop talking.
Trying to piss GSP off enough for a rematch? Win or lose that's a crapton of cash.
Well, Nick is the same guy that said he wasn't going to make any excuses for losing right before he rattled off a laundry list of excuses for losing.
It's no wonder soccer moms hate him.
Trying to piss GSP off enough for a rematch? Win or lose that's a crapton of cash.
Yeah, I don't see Dana offering him a rematch with GSP any time soon. He got demolished by an injured GSP. Everyone saw him come up short. Hell, at least the fist Sonnen VS Silva fight showed that Sonnen can fight. He took it to Silva and just got caughht. That deserved a rematch. Nick did nothing the entire fight besides talk trash and take a swing after the bell.
It's no wonder soccer moms hate him.
Along with most people.
Yeah, I don't see Dana offering him a rematch with GSP any time soon. He got demolished by an injured GSP. Everyone saw him come up short. Hell, at least the fist Sonnen VS Silva fight showed that Sonnen can fight. He took it to Silva and just got caughht. That deserved a rematch. Nick did nothing the entire fight besides talk trash and take a swing after the bell.
Yep, that's why I wonder if they're trying to get GSP to demand one. Get him mad enough and he'll maybe skip Hendricks again. I doubt it but they're kinda dumb.
Along with most people.
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TYep, that's why I wonder if they're trying to get GSP to demand one. Get him mad enough and he'll maybe skip Hendricks again. I doubt it but they're kinda dumb.
Yeah, not going to happen. Even if Diaz and his camp did manage to lure GSP into taking a rematch, Dana wouldn't let it. It wouldn't make anywhere near the amount of money the first fight made. The only people who would want to see that fight are the Diaz fanboys, and they're mostly broke pot-heads. Not enough of an audience to be made.
Hendricks, on the other hand, is being tauted as the best challenger to GSP's belt. He has one punch knockout power, and good wrestling. At this point, GSP VS Hendricks will make way more than a Diaz rematch.