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Not how you propose...

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#1
homicidal_squirrel
Jul 07, 2011 16:00:30 sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corne...

#2
Crimson_Concerto
Jul 07, 2011 16:03:21 Wow, lame...
#3
jetshield
Jul 07, 2011 16:06:31
#4
EscherEnigma
Jul 07, 2011 17:39:13 I'm confused. Just what basis is there to demand the ring returned? I mean, I was under the impression that such things were gifts. Should a person return an engagement ring if they turn down the proposal? Probably. But should they be required to?
#5
mudbunny
Jul 07, 2011 17:41:08 There is legal precedent that an engagement ring is accepted upon the promise that you will marry the person giving the ring. Should you decide to not marry the person, you are to return the ring.
#6
homicidal_squirrel
Jul 07, 2011 17:42:23 She should have said it was lost in the mail along with the proposal message.
#7
EscherEnigma
Jul 07, 2011 17:47:16
There is legal precedent that an engagement ring is accepted upon the promise that you will marry the person giving the ring. Should you decide to not marry the person, you are to return the ring.

... there's legal precedent that accepting a ring is the same as signing a (very basic) pre-nup?

Oh, the luxury of having such problems.
#8
bone_naga
Jul 07, 2011 18:54:29
There is legal precedent that an engagement ring is accepted upon the promise that you will marry the person giving the ring. Should you decide to not marry the person, you are to return the ring.

Indeed. The courts view an engagement ring as a contract of sorts. The ring for your marriage. If you refuse the proposal or back out on it before the wedding, you must return the ring. If you get married and later get divorced, you are generally considered to have fulfilled your end of the bargain and you keep it.
#9
Jharii
Jul 07, 2011 19:05:16 ... and people say romance is dead ...
#10
zombie_babies
Jul 08, 2011 13:08:59 Umm ... if ya spend $76k on a ring, why not spend a few hundred more to fly to the girl you're givin' it to. That's actually probably why she said no. He didn't spend enough. Athletes have been givin' out million dollah rocks lately and she probaably wanted to get into that club. I don't mean to assume she's a gold digger but feel ok with doing it cuz of the fact that she tried to steal it.
#11
draco1119
Jul 08, 2011 13:34:52
Umm ... if ya spend $76k on a ring, why not spend a few hundred more to fly to the girl you're givin' it to. That's actually probably why she said no. He didn't spend enough. Athletes have been givin' out million dollah rocks lately and she probaably wanted to get into that club. I don't mean to assume she's a gold digger but feel ok with doing it cuz of the fact that she tried to steal it.

Well, he couldn't do that. I mean, the lockout is gonna end ANY DAY NOW!!! so he needs to be ready to start training camp at a moment's notice. Ask Jharii, he'll tell you how pro sports clubs are...

#12
Jharii
Jul 08, 2011 13:37:12
Umm ... if ya spend $76k on a ring, why not spend a few hundred more to fly to the girl you're givin' it to. That's actually probably why she said no. He didn't spend enough. Athletes have been givin' out million dollah rocks lately and she probaably wanted to get into that club. I don't mean to assume she's a gold digger but feel ok with doing it cuz of the fact that she tried to steal it.

Well, he couldn't do that. I mean, the lockout is gonna end ANY DAY NOW!!! so he needs to be ready to start training camp at a moment's notice. Ask Jharii, he'll tell you how pro sports clubs are...

This is the new millenia Draco... and that's the NFL. "Back in the day" if you didn't show up, your ass was all but gone. Now, the athletes have all the power. Minor leagues were WAY different than the show, too.

Roy Williams is a scrub, though. He just got released. He's got nowhere else to be. :D

#13
draco1119
Jul 08, 2011 13:48:20
This is the new millenia Draco... and that's the NFL. "Back in the day" if you didn't show up, your ass was all but gone. Now, the athletes have all the power. Minor leagues were WAY different than the show, too.

You mean like Brett "I don't have to show up to training camp" Favre or Roger "I just wanna play the second half of the season but still be on the All-Star ballot" Clemens?
#14
Jharii
Jul 08, 2011 14:54:21
This is the new millenia Draco... and that's the NFL. "Back in the day" if you didn't show up, your ass was all but gone. Now, the athletes have all the power. Minor leagues were WAY different than the show, too.

You mean like Brett "I don't have to show up to training camp" Favre or Roger "I just wanna play the second half of the season but still be on the All-Star ballot" Clemens?

Yep, you know what I'm talking about.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 homicidal_squirrel Jul 07, 2011 16:00:30	sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corne...
#2 Crimson_Concerto Jul 07, 2011 16:03:21	Wow, lame...
#3 jetshield Jul 07, 2011 16:06:31
#4 EscherEnigma Jul 07, 2011 17:39:13	I'm confused. Just what basis is there to demand the ring returned? I mean, I was under the impression that such things were gifts. Should a person return an engagement ring if they turn down the proposal? Probably. But should they be required to?
#5 mudbunny Jul 07, 2011 17:41:08	There is legal precedent that an engagement ring is accepted upon the promise that you will marry the person giving the ring. Should you decide to not marry the person, you are to return the ring.
#6 homicidal_squirrel Jul 07, 2011 17:42:23	She should have said it was lost in the mail along with the proposal message.
#7 EscherEnigma Jul 07, 2011 17:47:16	There is legal precedent that an engagement ring is accepted upon the promise that you will marry the person giving the ring. Should you decide to not marry the person, you are to return the ring. ... there's legal precedent that accepting a ring is the same as signing a (very basic) pre-nup? Oh, the luxury of having such problems.
#8 bone_naga Jul 07, 2011 18:54:29	There is legal precedent that an engagement ring is accepted upon the promise that you will marry the person giving the ring. Should you decide to not marry the person, you are to return the ring. Indeed. The courts view an engagement ring as a contract of sorts. The ring for your marriage. If you refuse the proposal or back out on it before the wedding, you must return the ring. If you get married and later get divorced, you are generally considered to have fulfilled your end of the bargain and you keep it.
#9 Jharii Jul 07, 2011 19:05:16	... and people say romance is dead ...
#10 zombie_babies Jul 08, 2011 13:08:59	Umm ... if ya spend $76k on a ring, why not spend a few hundred more to fly to the girl you're givin' it to. That's actually probably why she said no. He didn't spend enough. Athletes have been givin' out million dollah rocks lately and she probaably wanted to get into that club. I don't mean to assume she's a gold digger but feel ok with doing it cuz of the fact that she tried to steal it.
#11 draco1119 Jul 08, 2011 13:34:52	Umm ... if ya spend $76k on a ring, why not spend a few hundred more to fly to the girl you're givin' it to. That's actually probably why she said no. He didn't spend enough. Athletes have been givin' out million dollah rocks lately and she probaably wanted to get into that club. I don't mean to assume she's a gold digger but feel ok with doing it cuz of the fact that she tried to steal it. Well, he couldn't do that. I mean, the lockout is gonna end ANY DAY NOW!!! so he needs to be ready to start training camp at a moment's notice. Ask Jharii, he'll tell you how pro sports clubs are...
#12 Jharii Jul 08, 2011 13:37:12	Umm ... if ya spend $76k on a ring, why not spend a few hundred more to fly to the girl you're givin' it to. That's actually probably why she said no. He didn't spend enough. Athletes have been givin' out million dollah rocks lately and she probaably wanted to get into that club. I don't mean to assume she's a gold digger but feel ok with doing it cuz of the fact that she tried to steal it. Well, he couldn't do that. I mean, the lockout is gonna end ANY DAY NOW!!! so he needs to be ready to start training camp at a moment's notice. Ask Jharii, he'll tell you how pro sports clubs are... This is the new millenia Draco... and that's the NFL. "Back in the day" if you didn't show up, your ass was all but gone. Now, the athletes have all the power. Minor leagues were WAY different than the show, too. Roy Williams is a scrub, though. He just got released. He's got nowhere else to be. :D
#13 draco1119 Jul 08, 2011 13:48:20	This is the new millenia Draco... and that's the NFL. "Back in the day" if you didn't show up, your ass was all but gone. Now, the athletes have all the power. Minor leagues were WAY different than the show, too. You mean like Brett "I don't have to show up to training camp" Favre or Roger "I just wanna play the second half of the season but still be on the All-Star ballot" Clemens?
#14 Jharii Jul 08, 2011 14:54:21	This is the new millenia Draco... and that's the NFL. "Back in the day" if you didn't show up, your ass was all but gone. Now, the athletes have all the power. Minor leagues were WAY different than the show, too. You mean like Brett "I don't have to show up to training camp" Favre or Roger "I just wanna play the second half of the season but still be on the All-Star ballot" Clemens? Yep, you know what I'm talking about.