Or use protection.
Or at least get 'em through snoo snoo.
I also just saw she just spent $1000 on make-up. Im a professional cosplayer, and even then my make-up (including stage make-up, which is more expensive) doesnt come to that total. WHERE IS THIS MONEY COMING FROM?????
She is a very misguided super villain who is getting money the same way Lex Luther did in SuperMan 4.
I also just saw she just spent $1000 on make-up. Im a professional cosplayer, and even then my make-up (including stage make-up, which is more expensive) doesnt come to that total. WHERE IS THIS MONEY COMING FROM?????
likely from the taxpayer's money, or from donations. She is trying to have all those kids so she can be a celebrity. I say that the children should be taken away. She seems to be unstable. She is trying to be a leech on society, sucking away money that she does not deserve.
What if she "accidently" fell off a bridge?
Some women orgasm during child birth, so she might be doing it for the child birth only, not the child.
All that pain, stress, and thousands of dollars for that? Mine only costs me a sock and 3 minutes.
Also lol 3 mins.
TMI
Also lol 3 mins.
It is a rough estimate. I don't own a stop watch.
problem solved
That left me feeling...unclean.
I really don't see what the fuss is. A woman had eight kids. So what?
Something like 14. As for the fuss...
Every time she talks, she seems so fake. It's like she thinks she's a celebrity, so she's become just as vapid and faux-touchy-feely. She talks like having so many children has given her some great wisdom, but she's really crazy and not very bright.
...funny you should say that. A charitable organization in California offered her a couple hundred thousand dollars in free child care and financial aid. She declined the free professional care and the thousands upon thousands of dollars in clothes, activities, and necessities for her children... because "she's holding out for her own reality tv show".
I really don't see what the fuss is. A woman had eight kids. So what?
Having kids is easy. Raising 14 or whatever on your own is a different animal altogether. The problem appears when we consider where all the money to raise them will come from (hint: it ain't mommy) and exactly what kind of life these kids will have. And, as others have mentioned, her motives are far from noble. She is an attention ***** with major mental problems. Not exactly mommy of the year material. ;)
And that is a form of glorification. Whether you discuss her negatively or positively is besides the point.
No, no. You misunderstand me. Simply by starting a thread about this woman you (or anyone) raise the status of this woman to a level that she does not deserve or require. The more you discuss her, the more ingrained the woman become in your mind, and the more you feel compelled to discuss her. And then so do all those around you. Eventually more and more people discuss her until, well everybody is discussing her.
And that is a form of glorification. Whether you discuss her negatively or positively is besides the point.
He's right. There is no such thing as bad publicity.
There is no such thing as bad publicity.
Exactly.
The word "glorification" implies bestowing praise or honor upon whatever is being glorified. If that's not what you meant, you can hardly blame me for interpreting your post in the manner I did. ;)
*shrug*
It simply seemed the easiest way to be highly sarcastic about the subject, and still make a point. Next time I'll just use simple words.
And yes, I'm just teasing there.Anywhoo, I agree with the idea that these conversations bring unwarranted attention to octomom - and, in the process, realize her wishes and feed the machine. But dem's da breaks. We live in a society that's largely populated by fools. My favorite example is the death of princess Di. So many American women were literally convulsing in anguish when she was turned into pavement paste. Why? Because that's what everybody else was doing. And because they're dumb (not women - the sheep that do not think about why they're doing something incredibly moronic - and that group includes plenty of men, too).
True enough, the world is populated by fools. I happen to be one from time to time. Also, I think it's high time I had a discussion with my Literary Proff., he has some mighty big explaining to do.
We all can be fools from time to time. The people that are the problem, however, make a living at it. ;) And no, I am in no way implying that any part of this discussion indicates either party is a fool. We're fools for plenty of real reasons, I'm sure. :D
Still, the important thing is your point. Which was right on. All of this talk feeds more talk which is exactly what she wants. And we shouldn't be giving her that.
We all can be fools from time to time. The people that are the problem, however, make a living at it.
And so Zombie_Babies did forever besmirch the noble professions of the mime and the clown.
And so Zombie_Babies did forever besmirch the noble professions of the mime and the clown.
Hey man, that wasn't me. You ever seen a mime or a clown? They've done besmirched themselves! Well, maybe not Johnny Gasey. That clown had class. ;)
I was just thinking about how midnitepoison produces threads like octomom produces babies.
Interesting. Care to hazard a guess at what sort of other things she and octomom have in common?
EDIT: Wait. Do you mean that she produces tons of threads or that she uses artificial threadsemination?
EDIT: Wait. Do you mean that she produces tons of threads or that she uses artificial threadsemination?
I think she may use artificial threadsemination to produce tons of threads.
I think she may use artificial threadsemination to produce tons of threads.
Hmm. What's the official stance on artificial threadsemination? Does it involve a turkey baster?
It may involve a thread baster.
Of course! So where is she getting the material to artificially threadseminate with?
One could also assume she goes overseas and adopts threads.
Plausible.
Of course! So where is she getting the material to artificially threadseminate with?
Bane? Pighknight? I really don't know the answer to this one.
Bane? Pighknight? I really don't know the answer to this one.
That's frighteningly disturbing. Even to me. That poor, poor girl ...
Bane? Pighknight? I really don't know the answer to this one.
Use your imagination.
Isn't having eight at one time a record? With all the notoriety garnered by the couple that pumped out 7 kids at once recently, the octomom may have found it a faster way to become famous.
Isn't having eight at one time a record? With all the notoriety garnered by the couple that pumped out 7 kids at once recently, the octomom may have found it a faster way to become famous.
Yep, I believe that having octuplets without any of them dying has never been done before.
So many things are wrong with this woman (and her doctor) I don't even know where to begin.
Use your imagination.
Isn't having eight at one time a record? With all the notoriety garnered by the couple that pumped out 7 kids at once recently, the octomom may have found it a faster way to become famous.
I may be remembering wrong, but I thought there was a woman who had over a dozen at once. I'm not sure if they all survived, though.
Truthfully. I don't care who she is or how many brats she squeezes out. And if she uses artificial means to get pregnant, it's only cuz the crazy is so prominent even guys at last call look at her and say "I'm not touching that one."
Lets get Michael Madsen and Marg Helgenberger to put a team together and put her down like they did the chick from Species.
Marg's Character from Species:
She could have a dozen babies, she could lay a thousand eggs.
So, uh, yeah...
At least Manjula had Apu w/ their 8. What man in his right mind would want this woman? Not that I'm for caring about this woman (cuz' I don't, not in a good light anyway), but I do care about the 8 kids for the next 18 years. They're stuck w/ this bi-ch, in its purest form. She's had a litter...
And they're going to have to suffer a river of indignities and all of her psychotic craziness as they grow up and try and blend into normal life. My God, just wait till menopause...kick start the Apocalypse.
Take that, octomom!
He's right. There is no such thing as bad publicity.
I've never bought that. If that was true then why would we need publicists?
okay. I keep seeing this Nadia Sulaiman chick on the news, and all I can think is about how amazingly mentally unhealthy this woman seems. shes literally addicted to giving birth. and on top of that, she's a single mom with no job. guess what? that means taxpayers are gonna pay to raise all 14 of those rambuctious little scamps. Im not okay with that. also, already it has been said that a few of her kids are autistic or some such. I really think this woman need serious, serious help. shes not healthy!
I'm cool with it. I figure she is going to give us at least a year of entertainment. And when those kids grow up they could start a superband or something. Think of it as an investment. Beats some of the other crap our tax dollars go toward. Besides, its the charitable thing to do.
The world record for having the most number of children officially recorded is 69 by the first of two wives of Feodor Vassilyev (1707-1782), a peasant from Shuya, 150 miles east of Moscow. In 27 confinements, she gave birth to 16 pairs of twins, seven sets of triplets and four sets of quadruplets. The children were born between 1725-1765.
Take that, octomom!
Shh, you'll give her ideas.
I agree 100%
If only all Americans were like us....
im not american.....
Basically, I don't think that we have the right to barge into her life and tell her whether she can reproduce or not, but I think that we have the right to protect children that are already brought into the world if she can't and we have the right to ignore her.
I generally agree with you here, but there are people who should be sterilized or locked away in a dark room for the betterment of mankind (i'm not necessarily saying that she qualifies).
Case in point: Charles Manson.
So what if she had eight kids? We have the means avaliable to provide for way more people then there are in the world! There's only six billion people in the world. That's hardly a dent when you realize just how big the earth is...
All this is, is media *****dom. How can we make a poor woman with the freakish uterus into a sideshow? And ofcourse, let's dwell on the negative that she has eight kids. As if kids are nothing but acid and big metal spikes, destroying all that is fun and good!
We should be happy. Eight little miracles. Maybe one of them will get this world on the right track. Heck, I don't want to steralize anybody. Just castrate them. The difference? One prevents you from getting preggerz, the other prevents you from enjoying sex. We should have the ability to reproduce when and if we need it. But noone has a right to have the enjoyment of sex! Infact, I don't think anyone (save me and Julz) deserves that privlage... because people are *******s!
So I wouldn't steralize anyone. Simply make everyone at a reasonable age when they start thinking about sex. Maybe fifteen, try to get their sex liscence. It can be revoked, denied, etc. And once they cross the line, bam! Castration. No sex for you!
Julz would just say kill them all for the lulz. That's why I love her... <3
So what if she had eight kids? We have the means avaliable to provide for way more people then there are in the world! There's only six billion people in the world. That's hardly a dent when you realize just how big the earth is...
All this is, is media *****dom. How can we make a poor woman with the freakish uterus into a sideshow? And ofcourse, let's dwell on the negative that she has eight kids. As if kids are nothing but acid and big metal spikes, destroying all that is fun and good!
We should be happy. Eight little miracles. Maybe one of them will get this world on the right track. Heck, I don't want to steralize anybody. Just castrate them. The difference? One prevents you from getting preggerz, the other prevents you from enjoying sex. We should have the ability to reproduce when and if we need it. But noone has a right to have the enjoyment of sex! Infact, I don't think anyone (save me and Julz) deserves that privlage... because people are *******s!
So I wouldn't steralize anyone. Simply make everyone at a reasonable age when they start thinking about sex. Maybe fifteen, try to get their sex liscence. It can be revoked, denied, etc. And once they cross the line, bam! Castration. No sex for you!
Julz would just say kill them all for the lulz. That's why I love her... <3
I hope you're kidding. Well, I know you're kidding at the very end, but I hope you're kidding about wanting to castrate people. The only reason why I ask is because there are people who believe that it is wrong for women to take enjoyment from sex and those countries castrate women. From what I understand, castration doesn't prevent a man from enjoying sex, but I also have no way of knowing considering that I'm female and not a male eunuch.
the kids, it's all about keeping her "healthy". the kids. In bags.Just sad.
On a personal/moral one, it's egocentrism. Gluttony in an askewed degree.
Consider:
She hasn't given the future of these kids much consideration of her own in other words. Kids are needy, desperate creatures (defense mechanism) that compete for attention cuz' they need it. Now, w/ 14 of them, how much "mom time" do you think each one will get? Toss in a bunch of news crews, wierdo press releases, talk shows, etc...How adjusted do you think they will be upon maturity? Outlook is grim to say the least.
Time, being the only measure you can count on, will play out, then they go on to have relationships, likely deficient ones, then have kids of their own, passing on a great deal of what they became/who they are as products of their current environment.
Financially, how is it that DINKS (double income no kids) more often than not, have to bust ass in this country to get by, especially in this econ, and this birthing factory is getting a free ride like so many of the popular failed business CEOs? Who is paying for all this? Seems orchestrated from the start. What single parent, baring 6+ figure salary, could afford that? The logistics must be staggering...but, oh wait, govt. handout to the rescue!
What's more, we have WIC, we have Welfare, food stamps, bla bla bla, and far too many cases I hear, see, and worked w/ are blatant exercises in abuse and me-too, me-too! You rarely hear about the, "Thank God for the govt. check, those kids needed milk and bread badly." The above posters' allusion to paychecks, later ones to taxation, and the outright ethical dilemma speaks volumes. Good mention ppl. IDK how this came to be.
In other lands, you have a lot of kids cuz' you hope a few will survive, help work the farm, and care for you when you're old and gray. Now, they're accessories for some to accomodate one's psychosis like a Prada bag.
Legalality, yes, it's your biological right to have kids/sex lawfully, however, it's gotten out of hand. Seems like only the intelligent tax-paying citizens, err, consumers, are having reasonable family sizes cuz', wait for it, they can afford it financially for one. Two, they can allocate the necessary time to the kids and raise them to be good ppl too. This is not to say there aren't, for example, some rather large families w/ lots of love to spare that don't take a dime in handouts...cuz' they planned ahead and have integrity. But that's what's missing. Many have grown accustomed to the privledge (not right).
Decency/integrity are no longer commodities in American life in many ways. Thus, you get entire generations of families on welfare, just gettin' by cuz' they can. Nevermind we have tons of social programs to get one up and running. Throw a dog a bone long enough, it expects it. Deny it after so long, it will turn on you all tooth and claw.
Anyway, if you can't afford them, why does someone else have to take up your slack and pay? Is it facist to require a license then to prove you are capable as a fit parent, but also that you won't be screwing 300 million Americans as well? Perhaps just tax the Hell out of them like they do in China (you can have more than 1 baby in Beijing, but block mothers lean heavilly on you and the govt. taxes you heavilly).
Yes, rights are rights (having kids), but when your rights start trampling another's financial rights (unfair taxation, which we rebelled against in our nation's inception btw), well, what's right then? Chemical sterilization until you can afford a pill to turn you back "on" to have 'x'? Sounds facist which I abhor, but what about the little guy?
The whole Octomommy debacle is turning into Mike Judge's "Idiocracy". Only the stupid are breeding in numbers as the wise know affordability and reason are at stake and don't. However, we rule by majority in a democracy, no? Eventually, like before, time will have it's way, those stupid will keep spawning like so many rats, demand their due representation, and perpetuate the viscious cycle of stupidity and living beyond their means.
Is that not what the current economic crisis was rooted in? Scary parallel.
That's just money and it hurts, but when we're dealing w/ human lives of 75+ yrs., it makes a few years of recession/depression seem like small potatos. And it will keep growing. You can slash a budget, be fiscally conservative, whatever, but when you do that to ppl they call it genocide...
Not to mention our retarded wars of conquest overseas that cost us TEN BILLION DOLLARS a month....thats been going on for SIX YEARS...i think this crazy lady is the least of our worries.
I hope you're kidding. Well, I know you're kidding at the very end, but I hope you're kidding about wanting to castrate people. The only reason why I ask is because there are people who believe that it is wrong for women to take enjoyment from sex and those countries castrate women. From what I understand, castration doesn't prevent a man from enjoying sex, but I also have no way of knowing considering that I'm female and not a male eunuch.
I was serious. But I was under the impression castration can prevent both sexes from feeling good.
I mean really, how is a man suppose to feel good from sex if his ***** is butchered? I'm not an expert. But that just doesn't seem very likely to me...
I speak from exprience. I'm not castrated. But I have nerve problems, so I don't really feel a whole lot down there. Sex for me is like, tylenol I guess. It's great for headaches, and it feels good yeah. But not oh my GOD! So amazing! Maybe other people are just hypocondriacs and I look at things so objectively I'm like "so this is it?"
Frankly I'd rather sleep then have sex. Sleep, or go bowling, or do anything else. All sex is good for is having some sweaty hairless ape ontop of you and then your covered in goo and shame lol! No thanks.
But I digress from my point. Even though I feel people should be wholly castrated, because I just don't like people. In practical terms I think octomom is just a fluke scenario and hey, it's noone's concern. So she has a bunch of kids? Big deal. It use to happen all the time in the old days! Maybe not fourteen, but alot of kids...
Saying "she's leeching off the system" is a copout.
A: Then it's not her fault. It's the system's fault. If there wasn't a system to leech off of then you couldn't get upset.
B: Better the system work for a single mother who has a bunch of kids then some crackhead who "needs help kicking his habit". I don't feel sorry for people's suffering. But atleast this is going to children. Which is what government should be thinking about, if anything at all.
C: I don't believe all the hype that she "did this for the lulz". I don't think anyone's that big of an attention *****. And if they are, hey, let them have the attention. Squeezing out fourteen kids is a feat in and of itself lol!
I don't know, I just really like kids. So I tend to not see the negative. Kids, Julz, and animals. I love them.
It's everyone else I can't stand. XP
Unfortunately the reality is that none of those mentioned have a legal right for doing so. There are no laws throughout all the US that limit or regulate the number of children you can have.
Maybe the fire marshall could remove some of them. What is the maximum occupancy for residential homes anyway?
Maybe the fire marshall could remove some of them. What is the maximum occupancy for residential homes anyway?
However many you can fit before someone calls CPS on you.
It is a fact, though, that the mom was offered over 1 million dollars and dental/health for her children to work for vivid entertainment. She refused, I suppose, because blogging on radar seems to be more profitable.
The turds on Wall Street are sucking more taxpayer money from the government than this lady and her progeny will for many generations...just one of their "bonuses" is more than any of you will probably see in your entire desperate lives...
It's the principle (IMO); a normal isolated incident like this isn't that big a deal, however, you give enough media attention to this "person" that is easilly digested by the mass populace, well, that symbol has much more power. It sets a theme, dare-I-say, a standard in some mindsets that is intolerable, thus perpetuating the problem. A small problem adopted by enough ppl becomes the paradigm.
Not to mention our retarded wars of conquest overseas...
Not that I'm agreeing w/ the impetus or execution of the Afghani or Iraqi theatres of warfare, but this is perhaps an irresponsible statement. If we had "conquered" either of these regions, the stars and stripes would be flying over Baghdad and Kabul, there wouldn't be general elections, and so forth. Had we simply invaded for pure territorial expansion, our current economic situation would seem petty compared to the fallout from the world opinion; massive trade embargos and political censoring beyond the current scope. How popular were the Soviets when they rolled in during '79? After?
that cost us TEN BILLION DOLLARS a month....thats been going on for SIX YEARS...i think this crazy lady is the least of our worries.
7 yrs if I'm not mistaken. Anniversary was a week or so back (Iraq).
And yes, excessive waste, truly. These conflicts could be fought much cheaper and more efficiently. Military-industrial complex anyone? We pay through the nose surely ($), but so many of our troops are getting the real shaft.
The crazy lady in question, in the big picture, is a diversion of more pressing issues. However, as a symbol, she is a blight on American socialiation, and therefor dangerous and misleading to an otherwise good country that is losing its way.
dirtyfrank: Those in government are sucking more money out of the government than those on Wall Street could ever imagine.
QFT
Bigger govt. = bigger waste usually.
ex)FBI, a great idea and terribly necessary one. But, apparently, it wasn't enough, thus spawning the DEA and ATF for one. Previously, both spheres of influence under the FBI's aegis. What happened? Rather than expand it numbers, budgets, and adjust accorindgly, they ramp up 2 new entities w/ much larger larger budgets, personel, and clout.
Too much compartmentalization has caused them to compete, waste more $, and bloat their numbers beyond what was needed. But, it gives more power & money to those at the helm. It would've been cheaper and more effective to have specialized units and logistics w/in 1 body than to make a bunch of seperate ones that do the same thing, but w/ less cohesion and much larger budgets.
Castration removes the berries, not the twig.
The Chinese snipped both on their eunuchs. I think going that route would probably remove any pleasure that could be derived from sex.