| Post/Author/DateTime | Post |
|---|---|
| #1jesse.two.coinsNov 03, 2010 6:53:24 | I'll be resident 1337 speaker as suggested by Pig Knight ![]() |-|0\/\/3\/3R, \d035 7|-|@ /\/\34|\| 7|-|@ 1 |\|0\/\/ |-|4\/3 70 74L|< L1|<3 7|-|15 4LL 7|-|3 71/\/\3? |
| #2Robin_HoodlumNov 03, 2010 7:29:07 | I'll be resident 1337 speaker as suggested by Pig Knight Please... Stop. Just.... stop. |
| #3jesse.two.coinsNov 03, 2010 7:30:17 | don't like it? don't read it, smh |
| #4Robin_HoodlumNov 03, 2010 7:36:04 | don't like it? don't read it, smh I can't read it! It looks like some kinda math problem. At this time, I think it is ridiculous and pointless... whatever it is. If you want to try and explain to me what it is all about, I might change my opinion. |
| #5jesse.two.coinsNov 03, 2010 7:41:41 | don't like it? don't read it, smh ohhh sorry, 1337= leet= elite. its a kind of language that gamers and douchebags use. it includes the use of acronyms (lol, lmao, rofl etc.) as well as the use of replacing letters with numbers (i.e. h0w 4r3 y0u t0d4y?) lol what I wrote was however, do I have to talk like this all of the time now? or something similar... I know its dumb but its my title ![]() |
| #6jesse.two.coinsNov 03, 2010 7:44:34 | I'll be resident 1337 speaker as suggested by Pig Knight |-|0\/\/3\/3R, = however d035 7|-|@= does that /\/|\| 7|-|@= mean that 1 |\|0\/\/ |-|4\/3 70= I now have to 74L|< L1|<3 7|-|15 4LL 7|-|3 71/\/?=talk like this all the time? |
| #7boraxeNov 03, 2010 8:07:57 | Bear in mind that "leet speek" is technically a CoC violation. |
| #8jesse.two.coinsNov 03, 2010 8:17:16 | how so? |
| #9scypioNov 03, 2010 8:31:03 | It could be considered masking? (I'm not sure.) |
| #10jesse.two.coinsNov 03, 2010 8:36:00 | I guess i won't talk in leet then |
| #11EscherEnigmaNov 03, 2010 10:16:39 | |-|0\/\/3\/3R, You do and I will GLEEMAX! GLEEMAX! your GLEEMAX! then GLEEMAX! until GLEEMAX! GLEEMAX! with a camel. |
| #12z_bNov 03, 2010 10:20:55 | Ahh ... the good ol' days ... |
| #13jesse.two.coinsNov 03, 2010 11:34:24 | Am I missing something? |
| #14jesse.two.coinsNov 03, 2010 11:50:01 | Bear in mind that "leet speek" is technically a CoC violation. 50 7|-|47 m34|\|5 7|-|i5 i5 0k4y? y4yyyyy!!! |
| #15z_bNov 03, 2010 11:53:10 | Am I missing something? You GLEEMAX! sure GLEEMAX! are. It is not masking. If it were saying WTF or QFT would be masking and a lot of people would be in trouble. There is a massive difference between an obvious acronym and purposefully obfuscating 1337 speak, I'm afraid. That and they consider posting in a language other than English disruptive, too. Anyhoo, it's in the intent. With 'WTF' and the like, it's to shorten the commnication process. With 1337 speak, it's to make what you're actually saying difficult for those not in the know to decipher. One is disruptive intentionally and one is not. |
| #16z_bNov 03, 2010 11:57:03 | Well, it's not your (nor mine) decision to make. Dems da breaks, I'm afraid. |
| #17modern_iconoclastNov 03, 2010 13:48:21 | Ha ha ha! Enfin! Je vais pouvoir répendre le mal sur cet ignoble forum. Ensuite, le monde! Ha ha ha... Think big esti! |
| #18boraxeNov 03, 2010 14:04:44 | It could be considered masking? (I'm not sure.) Yup, that'd be it. |
| #19EscherEnigmaNov 03, 2010 14:05:22 | That and they consider posting in a language other than English disruptive, too. Not exactly. I think they said that it has greater potential to be disruptive, but it's not necessarily disruptive. |
| #20ADHadhNov 03, 2010 14:10:55 | l337 is so 2000. |
| #21z_bNov 03, 2010 14:12:18 | Not exactly. I think they said that it has greater potential to be disruptive, but it's not necessarily disruptive. Ah. Thanks for the clarification. Upon reflection, I do believe you are correct. |
| #22modern_iconoclastNov 03, 2010 14:12:23 | Yeah, 2010 is all about the cloud. |
| #23Robin_HoodlumNov 03, 2010 17:00:08 |
Good. Cause it's stupid. |
| #24EscherEnigmaNov 03, 2010 19:19:52 | The only good use for leet is increasing the difficulty in guessing passwords. I mean, it's still just as susceptible to brute-force attacks, but if you use leet substitutions then it's less likely that someone is going to be able to just guess your password, as even if they guess the right word or name (say, EscherEnigma) it can be written a multitude of ways (35(h3r3|\|1gm4, for example) |
| #25Mad_JackNov 04, 2010 0:08:44 | The only good use for leet is increasing the difficulty in guessing passwords. I mean, it's still just as susceptible to brute-force attacks, but if you use leet substitutions then it's less likely that someone is going to be able to just guess your password, as even if they guess the right word or name (say, EscherEnigma) it can be written a multitude of ways (35(h3r3|\|1gm4, for example) My password is an Irish Gaelic proper noun written in alphanumeric notation - or, to say it another way, it's the original spelling of my family name written in "l337"... (On an unrelated note, is it odd that I seem to have the ability to read languages that I don't speak and have never studied?) |
| #26pluisjenNov 04, 2010 2:51:20 |
No, it's an interesting property of the evolution of language. I doubt you'd be able to grasp a word of Arabic of Chinese (unless you happen to speak those languages) but Gaelic still has some words and grammar bits that are also used in English, which makes them decipherable. I can also kinda decipher Middle Dutch, even though it looks and speaks nothing like modern Dutch, just because you can see the languages are related. |
| #27toastedamphibianNov 04, 2010 4:10:06 | My passwords tend to be a color followed by a number that is important to me. |
| #28jesse.two.coinsNov 04, 2010 6:31:07 | my password is **2*** |
| #29boraxeNov 04, 2010 14:19:15 | My password follows the format AAAAAA########AAAAAAAAA####. A=letter #=numeral That's 27 Characters, mix of 15 letters and 12 numbers and using "words" that are not in the dicitonary. According to password testing sites it is considered exceptionally strong. People think I'm nuts and wonder how I can remember it, but in truth the word and number combinations are meaningful to me, and thus easily memorable, and were I to ever forget any part a quick Google search would turn up the answer, but only if one knew the very precise and highly obscure thing to ask. |
| #30EscefNov 04, 2010 14:37:43 | I doubt you'd be able to grasp a word of Arabic of Chinese (unless you happen to speak those languages)... Arabic script is phonetic, so once you learn what sounds the symbols stand for it would be no different from me reading French. Yeah, I can more or less read it and speak the words, but I have little to no comprehension of what they mean. Written Chinese, as I understand it, is picto-symbolic; which makes it practically another language altogether. That is to say, written Chinese and spoken Chinese have little in common other than their cultural and geographical origins. For example, the spoken words for "mountain" and "high mountain" in Chinese are two distinctly different words. The symbol for "high mountain", however is a kind of picto-symbolic compound word, with the symbol for "hill" perched atop the symbol for "mountain". |
| #31boraxeNov 04, 2010 15:00:17 | Written Chinese, as I understand it, is picto-symbolic; which makes it practically another language altogether. That is to say, written Chinese and spoken Chinese have little in common other than their cultural and geographical origins. Well, it is a different language. That's kinda the point. ;) There is actually no Chinese language, there is Mandarin and there is Cantonese. They share the same written Chinese script, however, which means that they might not be able to speak to one another but can write to one another with ease. |
| #32scypioNov 04, 2010 15:17:29 | If Mandarin is the official language of China, doesn't that mean it is the official Chinese language (hence there is a Chinese language)? And there are more dialects than Mandarin and Cantonese. |
| #33boraxeNov 04, 2010 15:30:42 | If Mandarin is the official language of China, doesn't that mean it is the official Chinese language (hence there is a Chinese language)? I'll be sure to tell my Cantonese-speaking friends that they are not officially Chinese enough. And there are more dialects than Mandarin and Cantonese. But they are the two biggest ones and traditionally seen as the "two Chinese languages". |
| #34scypioNov 04, 2010 15:36:30 | I'll be sure to tell my Cantonese-speaking friends that they are not officially Chinese enough. Dude, I'm Cantonese, but I know the official language is Mandarin. I'll even say Mandarin over Chinese often, but that doesn't take away from the fact that Mandarin is the official language of China (and possibly Taiwan, I'm not sure). But they are the two biggest ones and traditionally seen as the "two Chinese languages". True, true. But just adding that there are others if people reading did not know. |
| #35pluisjenNov 04, 2010 16:26:35 | I doubt you'd be able to grasp a word of Arabic of Chinese (unless you happen to speak those languages)... Well duh, once you learn the language you can surely read and speak it :P The point was you can read very old versions of your native tongues to an extent because they are related, even if you've never had a single class or earlier contact with it. |
| #36ADHadhNov 04, 2010 16:35:19 |
Przeczytaj to, cwaniaku ![]() My passwords are mostly rather simple. It's not like anyone's going to break into my accounts anyway, and if they want to, they will. |
| #37EscefNov 04, 2010 16:46:29 |
Well, no. You can learn how to speak a language and still be quite illiterate in it. The various dialects (happy, Dave?) of Chinese have no real relation to their written language. Learning to write Chinese script might as well be learning Russian for how much a knowledge of spoken Chinese will help you (I wager I'm exaggerating a bit, but hopefully the point is illustrated). As of 2000, 1 in 5 adults in the world were illiterate, but I'm wagering most of those people are not without a spoken language. |
| #38Mad_JackNov 05, 2010 3:44:52 |
Well, see, for me it's not just the diference between Old English and modern English or even Gaelic... As long as the written language is written in the Roman alphabet and I have something that I can use to put the writing into a vague context, if I stare at it long enough I can usually decipher the general gist of it. Sure, I speak English and took Spanish in school, but I can read German pretty well, as well as most of the Latin-derivatives like French, a fair bit more Dutch than just the few words I know, and even a bit of Russian. Eh, my brain's just wired funny in general... ![]() |
| #39pluisjenNov 05, 2010 3:55:13 | Het klinkt onwaarschijnlijk dat je in staat bent Nederlands te lezen op basis van je kennis van Engels maar ik geef je het voordeel van de twijfel, de twee talen hebben wel een aantal overeenkomsten die je kunnen helpen om het idee van een tekst te ontcijferen misschien. And don't use google translate :P I'm curious if you can get the gist of it... |
| #40Mad_JackNov 05, 2010 3:57:03 |
Actually, it's pretty easy - If I'm right, from the structure of the sentence, I think the second part is a noun or adjective (a slang term or colloquialism, maybe?), and given the context, the first part is probably some variation on "Read this", which makes the second part some sort of mild insult... ![]() |
| #41ADHadhNov 05, 2010 7:24:35 |
It's "smart guy" actually... you're good. |
| #42Robin_HoodlumNov 03, 2010 7:29:07 | I'll be resident 1337 speaker as suggested by Pig Knight Please... Stop. Just.... stop. |
| #43jesse.two.coinsNov 03, 2010 7:30:17 | don't like it? don't read it, smh |
| #44Robin_HoodlumNov 03, 2010 7:36:04 | don't like it? don't read it, smh I can't read it! It looks like some kinda math problem. At this time, I think it is ridiculous and pointless... whatever it is. If you want to try and explain to me what it is all about, I might change my opinion. |
| #45jesse.two.coinsNov 03, 2010 7:41:41 | don't like it? don't read it, smh ohhh sorry, 1337= leet= elite. its a kind of language that gamers and douchebags use. it includes the use of acronyms (lol, lmao, rofl etc.) as well as the use of replacing letters with numbers (i.e. h0w 4r3 y0u t0d4y?) lol what I wrote was however, do I have to talk like this all of the time now? or something similar... I know its dumb but its my title ![]() |
| #46jesse.two.coinsNov 03, 2010 7:44:34 | I'll be resident 1337 speaker as suggested by Pig Knight |-|0\/\/3\/3R, = however d035 7|-|@= does that /\/|\| 7|-|@= mean that 1 |\|0\/\/ |-|4\/3 70= I now have to 74L|< L1|<3 7|-|15 4LL 7|-|3 71/\/?=talk like this all the time? |
| #47boraxeNov 03, 2010 8:07:57 | Bear in mind that "leet speek" is technically a CoC violation. |
| #48jesse.two.coinsNov 03, 2010 8:17:16 | how so? |
| #49scypioNov 03, 2010 8:31:03 | It could be considered masking? (I'm not sure.) |
| #50jesse.two.coinsNov 03, 2010 8:36:00 | I guess i won't talk in leet then |
| #51EscherEnigmaNov 03, 2010 10:16:39 | |-|0\/\/3\/3R, You do and I will GLEEMAX! GLEEMAX! your GLEEMAX! then GLEEMAX! until GLEEMAX! GLEEMAX! with a camel. |
| #52z_bNov 03, 2010 10:20:55 | Ahh ... the good ol' days ... |
| #53jesse.two.coinsNov 03, 2010 11:34:24 | Am I missing something? |
| #54jesse.two.coinsNov 03, 2010 11:50:01 | Bear in mind that "leet speek" is technically a CoC violation. 50 7|-|47 m34|\|5 7|-|i5 i5 0k4y? y4yyyyy!!! |
| #55z_bNov 03, 2010 11:53:10 | Am I missing something? You GLEEMAX! sure GLEEMAX! are. It is not masking. If it were saying WTF or QFT would be masking and a lot of people would be in trouble. There is a massive difference between an obvious acronym and purposefully obfuscating 1337 speak, I'm afraid. That and they consider posting in a language other than English disruptive, too. Anyhoo, it's in the intent. With 'WTF' and the like, it's to shorten the commnication process. With 1337 speak, it's to make what you're actually saying difficult for those not in the know to decipher. One is disruptive intentionally and one is not. |
| #56z_bNov 03, 2010 11:57:03 | Well, it's not your (nor mine) decision to make. Dems da breaks, I'm afraid. |
| #57modern_iconoclastNov 03, 2010 13:48:21 | Ha ha ha! Enfin! Je vais pouvoir répendre le mal sur cet ignoble forum. Ensuite, le monde! Ha ha ha... Think big esti! |
| #58boraxeNov 03, 2010 14:04:44 | It could be considered masking? (I'm not sure.) Yup, that'd be it. |
| #59EscherEnigmaNov 03, 2010 14:05:22 | That and they consider posting in a language other than English disruptive, too. Not exactly. I think they said that it has greater potential to be disruptive, but it's not necessarily disruptive. |
| #60ADHadhNov 03, 2010 14:10:55 | l337 is so 2000. |
| #61z_bNov 03, 2010 14:12:18 | Not exactly. I think they said that it has greater potential to be disruptive, but it's not necessarily disruptive. Ah. Thanks for the clarification. Upon reflection, I do believe you are correct. |
| #62modern_iconoclastNov 03, 2010 14:12:23 | Yeah, 2010 is all about the cloud. |
| #63Robin_HoodlumNov 03, 2010 17:00:08 |
Good. Cause it's stupid. |
| #64EscherEnigmaNov 03, 2010 19:19:52 | The only good use for leet is increasing the difficulty in guessing passwords. I mean, it's still just as susceptible to brute-force attacks, but if you use leet substitutions then it's less likely that someone is going to be able to just guess your password, as even if they guess the right word or name (say, EscherEnigma) it can be written a multitude of ways (35(h3r3|\|1gm4, for example) |
| #65Mad_JackNov 04, 2010 0:08:44 | The only good use for leet is increasing the difficulty in guessing passwords. I mean, it's still just as susceptible to brute-force attacks, but if you use leet substitutions then it's less likely that someone is going to be able to just guess your password, as even if they guess the right word or name (say, EscherEnigma) it can be written a multitude of ways (35(h3r3|\|1gm4, for example) My password is an Irish Gaelic proper noun written in alphanumeric notation - or, to say it another way, it's the original spelling of my family name written in "l337"... (On an unrelated note, is it odd that I seem to have the ability to read languages that I don't speak and have never studied?) |
| #66pluisjenNov 04, 2010 2:51:20 |
No, it's an interesting property of the evolution of language. I doubt you'd be able to grasp a word of Arabic of Chinese (unless you happen to speak those languages) but Gaelic still has some words and grammar bits that are also used in English, which makes them decipherable. I can also kinda decipher Middle Dutch, even though it looks and speaks nothing like modern Dutch, just because you can see the languages are related. |
| #67toastedamphibianNov 04, 2010 4:10:06 | My passwords tend to be a color followed by a number that is important to me. |
| #68jesse.two.coinsNov 04, 2010 6:31:07 | my password is **2*** |
| #69boraxeNov 04, 2010 14:19:15 | My password follows the format AAAAAA########AAAAAAAAA####. A=letter #=numeral That's 27 Characters, mix of 15 letters and 12 numbers and using "words" that are not in the dicitonary. According to password testing sites it is considered exceptionally strong. People think I'm nuts and wonder how I can remember it, but in truth the word and number combinations are meaningful to me, and thus easily memorable, and were I to ever forget any part a quick Google search would turn up the answer, but only if one knew the very precise and highly obscure thing to ask. |
| #70EscefNov 04, 2010 14:37:43 | I doubt you'd be able to grasp a word of Arabic of Chinese (unless you happen to speak those languages)... Arabic script is phonetic, so once you learn what sounds the symbols stand for it would be no different from me reading French. Yeah, I can more or less read it and speak the words, but I have little to no comprehension of what they mean. Written Chinese, as I understand it, is picto-symbolic; which makes it practically another language altogether. That is to say, written Chinese and spoken Chinese have little in common other than their cultural and geographical origins. For example, the spoken words for "mountain" and "high mountain" in Chinese are two distinctly different words. The symbol for "high mountain", however is a kind of picto-symbolic compound word, with the symbol for "hill" perched atop the symbol for "mountain". |
| #71boraxeNov 04, 2010 15:00:17 | Written Chinese, as I understand it, is picto-symbolic; which makes it practically another language altogether. That is to say, written Chinese and spoken Chinese have little in common other than their cultural and geographical origins. Well, it is a different language. That's kinda the point. ;) There is actually no Chinese language, there is Mandarin and there is Cantonese. They share the same written Chinese script, however, which means that they might not be able to speak to one another but can write to one another with ease. |
| #72scypioNov 04, 2010 15:17:29 | If Mandarin is the official language of China, doesn't that mean it is the official Chinese language (hence there is a Chinese language)? And there are more dialects than Mandarin and Cantonese. |
| #73boraxeNov 04, 2010 15:30:42 | If Mandarin is the official language of China, doesn't that mean it is the official Chinese language (hence there is a Chinese language)? I'll be sure to tell my Cantonese-speaking friends that they are not officially Chinese enough. And there are more dialects than Mandarin and Cantonese. But they are the two biggest ones and traditionally seen as the "two Chinese languages". |
| #74scypioNov 04, 2010 15:36:30 | I'll be sure to tell my Cantonese-speaking friends that they are not officially Chinese enough. Dude, I'm Cantonese, but I know the official language is Mandarin. I'll even say Mandarin over Chinese often, but that doesn't take away from the fact that Mandarin is the official language of China (and possibly Taiwan, I'm not sure). But they are the two biggest ones and traditionally seen as the "two Chinese languages". True, true. But just adding that there are others if people reading did not know. |
| #75pluisjenNov 04, 2010 16:26:35 | I doubt you'd be able to grasp a word of Arabic of Chinese (unless you happen to speak those languages)... Well duh, once you learn the language you can surely read and speak it :P The point was you can read very old versions of your native tongues to an extent because they are related, even if you've never had a single class or earlier contact with it. |
| #76ADHadhNov 04, 2010 16:35:19 |
Przeczytaj to, cwaniaku ![]() My passwords are mostly rather simple. It's not like anyone's going to break into my accounts anyway, and if they want to, they will. |
| #77EscefNov 04, 2010 16:46:29 |
Well, no. You can learn how to speak a language and still be quite illiterate in it. The various dialects (happy, Dave?) of Chinese have no real relation to their written language. Learning to write Chinese script might as well be learning Russian for how much a knowledge of spoken Chinese will help you (I wager I'm exaggerating a bit, but hopefully the point is illustrated). As of 2000, 1 in 5 adults in the world were illiterate, but I'm wagering most of those people are not without a spoken language. |
| #78Mad_JackNov 05, 2010 3:44:52 |
Well, see, for me it's not just the diference between Old English and modern English or even Gaelic... As long as the written language is written in the Roman alphabet and I have something that I can use to put the writing into a vague context, if I stare at it long enough I can usually decipher the general gist of it. Sure, I speak English and took Spanish in school, but I can read German pretty well, as well as most of the Latin-derivatives like French, a fair bit more Dutch than just the few words I know, and even a bit of Russian. Eh, my brain's just wired funny in general... ![]() |
| #79pluisjenNov 05, 2010 3:55:13 | Het klinkt onwaarschijnlijk dat je in staat bent Nederlands te lezen op basis van je kennis van Engels maar ik geef je het voordeel van de twijfel, de twee talen hebben wel een aantal overeenkomsten die je kunnen helpen om het idee van een tekst te ontcijferen misschien. And don't use google translate :P I'm curious if you can get the gist of it... |
| #80Mad_JackNov 05, 2010 3:57:03 |
Actually, it's pretty easy - If I'm right, from the structure of the sentence, I think the second part is a noun or adjective (a slang term or colloquialism, maybe?), and given the context, the first part is probably some variation on "Read this", which makes the second part some sort of mild insult... ![]() |
| #81ADHadhNov 05, 2010 7:24:35 |
It's "smart guy" actually... you're good. |