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A private hospital would have provided better care.
Perhaps.
It would be interesting to see if privitizing Veterans care would be cheaper than what we have now, with better services provided.
A private hospital would have provided better care.
Perhaps.
It would be interesting to see if privitizing Veterans care would be cheaper than what we have now, with better services provided.
No, I mean get rid of veterans care altogether. Let them get health coverage from their new jobs or some other non-government source or pay for it out of pocket.
A private hospital would have provided better care.
Perhaps.
It would be interesting to see if privitizing Veterans care would be cheaper than what we have now, with better services provided.
No, I mean get rid of veterans care altogether. Let them get health coverage from their new jobs or some other non-government source or pay for it out of pocket.
Sorry no.
I can't get behind that.
I won't throw veterans under the bus.
A private hospital would have provided better care.
Perhaps.
It would be interesting to see if privitizing Veterans care would be cheaper than what we have now, with better services provided.
No, I mean get rid of veterans care altogether. Let them get health coverage from their new jobs or some other non-government source or pay for it out of pocket.
Sorry no.
I can't get behind that.
I won't throw veterans under the bus.
How are you throwing them under the bus? I'm saying we get the verterans to find health insurance and health care that meets their needs in the private market. Seriously, this isn't the first time the VA has messed up some poor guy. You think some government employee knows better than the veteran what his health care needs are?
Are you actually telling me that you want them to stay in a system that is as terrible as the VA?
A private hospital would have provided better care.
Perhaps.
It would be interesting to see if privitizing Veterans care would be cheaper than what we have now, with better services provided.
No, I mean get rid of veterans care altogether. Let them get health coverage from their new jobs or some other non-government source or pay for it out of pocket.
Sorry no.
I can't get behind that.
I won't throw veterans under the bus.
How are you throwing them under the bus? I'm saying we get the verterans to find health insurance and health care that meets their needs in the private market. Seriously, this isn't the first time the VA has messed up some poor guy. You think some government employee knows better than the veteran what his health care needs are?
Are you actually telling me that you want them to stay in a system that is as terrible as the VA?
No, but I am saying the gov't (we taxpayers) should still cover the costs.
No, but I am saying the gov't (we taxpayers) should still cover the costs.
Why? They volunteered. No one forced them to join the military and go fight. They got paid. Once they are out, they need to get themselves jobs and health coverage. You may as well be advocating that we pay the health care costs of McDonald's employees.
That's an interesting reversal from your usual position on government spending.
I find it amusing how ordinary people can't get the same level defense from RH just for being humans.
There is a word for that. It is one of RH's favorite words to use. ;)
They volunteered. No one forced them to join the military and go fight. They got paid. Once they are out, they need to get themselves jobs and health coverage.
Uh, dude, theres still 'Nam vets alive you know, you do know that right?
So yeah, some vets were forced to go, well i mean I guess they could skipped town or whatever, but they were definetly not volunteers.
And Im siding with RH on this one, Vets put their lives on the line for our Country, the least we can do is make sure they get taken care of, they way this country treats its veterans, especially seniors, is shameful, they should be able to go to a real hospital, not the VA one!
But yeah, guy should of known better than to trust his junk with the VA, sad to say, but its true.
That's an interesting reversal from your usual position on government spending.
Well, I think this time he's one of the receiving ;)
In Nam they weren't there to defend US citizens. They were there just to make sure Vietnam stayed in the empire.
No, they were there to defend South Vietnam from the vile infection of Communism, you know, that dasterdly and despicable form of gov't you love so much.
No, but I am saying the gov't (we taxpayers) should still cover the costs.
Why? They volunteered. No one forced them to join the military and go fight. They got paid. Once they are out, they need to get themselves jobs and health coverage. You may as well be advocating that we pay the health care costs of McDonald's employees.
They are defending this country and the people what live in it, even people like you.
Volunteers or not, they deserve our support.
They are defending this country and the people what live in it, even people like you.
No they're not.
Volunteers or not, they deserve our support.
No they don't. They applied for a job, and they got it. They got paid for their job and got health coverage plus other benefits while they were employed to do that job. Once they are out, they need to get their own coverage like the everyone else.
I'm not wasting my time arguing with you.
Uh, dude, theres still 'Nam vets alive you know, you do know that right?
So yeah, some vets were forced to go, well i mean I guess they could skipped town or whatever, but they were definetly not volunteers.
They should die off soon. I guess we can make an ecception for them, bu the rest should get their own coverage.
And Im siding with RH on this one, Vets put their lives on the line for our Country, the least we can do is make sure they get taken care of, they way this country treats its veterans, especially seniors, is shameful, they should be able to go to a real hospital, not the VA one!
So what? There are many people that put their lives on the line while on the job, and we don't pay for their coverage. Look at police officers. They put their lives on the line, and everywhere politicians are trying to make cops pay for their own health coverage. I don't see RH standing up for them. Why are veterans any different? They aren't. Veterans should pay for their own coverage, like everyone else. Senior veterans? Well, they should have planed better for retirement, don't you think? Instead, they want the government to hand-hold and coddle them.
But yeah, guy should of known better than to trust his junk with the VA, sad to say, but its true.
He should have known better than to join the military.
Itd be nice if there was no need for a military, but unfortunatly, not the world we live in.
It would be nice, but what does that have to do with veterans paying for their own health care instead of leeching off the government?
Oh, I'm pretty sure nobody pelican'd what was pelicanin on. Or something. ;)
I pelican'd on you while you were sleeping.
Sweet.
Yes, now tell everyone how you also think veterans need to get their own health care coverage.
Well they should. They weren't leeches on society when they were in the service, why should they be allowed to be once they're out?
But... soldiers deployed in a warzone don't pay income taxes. Wsan't that the definition of a leech on the government dole until sometime yesterday?
Well they should. They weren't leeches on society when they were in the service, why should they be allowed to be once they're out?
But... soldiers deployed in a warzone don't pay income taxes. Wsan't that the definition of a leech on the government dole until sometime yesterday?
Well in that case, they also need to start paying taxes.
Well they should. They weren't leeches on society when they were in the service, why should they be allowed to be once they're out?
But... soldiers deployed in a warzone don't pay income taxes. Wsan't that the definition of a leech on the government dole until sometime yesterday?
Well in that case, they also need to start paying taxes.
Are you kidding?
Do you actually know what these brave young women and men go through? Just so you can belittle them?
Really HS?
Well they should. They weren't leeches on society when they were in the service, why should they be allowed to be once they're out?
But... soldiers deployed in a warzone don't pay income taxes. Wsan't that the definition of a leech on the government dole until sometime yesterday?
Well in that case, they also need to start paying taxes.
Are you kidding?
Do you actually know what these brave young women and men go through? Just so you can belittle them?
Really HS?
Hold on a sec. Paying taxes belittles people? Really? Is that what you are saying?
And by the way, those "brave young men and women" are getting paid for the job they applied to and got hired to do. They are getting plenty of recompense for the job they do. They get a salary, they get room and board, and they get school paid for (if they choose to go).
Soldiers are government employees, where does the government get its money?
Taxes. However, that mone is being used to pay people who are providing a service. Also, government employees still pay taxes. What makes soldier any different? Why should they get special treatment? They shouldn't. Soldiers should pay taxes like everyone else.
It could be said that ALL government emplyees are leeches, but you know what? I dont mind paying taxes so vets can see a decent doctor...
Except soldiers conitue to get benefits after they are no longer employed by the government. Would you expect a private employer to continue to pay health benefits to an employee who quit? Why should soldiers continue to get health benefits after they quit? Why should soldiers be exempt from paying taxes? They volunteered to do the job, and they get paid to do that job as well. They need to pay taxes, and once they are out, they need to find their own health care coverage either through a new employer or pay for it themselves.
its those politicians i cant stand, if anybody should be "cut off" its them!!
They should be cut off as well.
Two words: 'tee' and 'hee'.
Shut it!
A private hospital would have provided better care.
Perhaps.
It would be interesting to see if privitizing Veterans care would be cheaper than what we have now, with better services provided.
A private hospital would have provided better care.
Perhaps.
It would be interesting to see if privitizing Veterans care would be cheaper than what we have now, with better services provided.
No, I mean get rid of veterans care altogether. Let them get health coverage from their new jobs or some other non-government source or pay for it out of pocket.
A private hospital would have provided better care.
Perhaps.
It would be interesting to see if privitizing Veterans care would be cheaper than what we have now, with better services provided.
No, I mean get rid of veterans care altogether. Let them get health coverage from their new jobs or some other non-government source or pay for it out of pocket.
Sorry no.
I can't get behind that.
I won't throw veterans under the bus.
A private hospital would have provided better care.
Perhaps.
It would be interesting to see if privitizing Veterans care would be cheaper than what we have now, with better services provided.
No, I mean get rid of veterans care altogether. Let them get health coverage from their new jobs or some other non-government source or pay for it out of pocket.
Sorry no.
I can't get behind that.
I won't throw veterans under the bus.
How are you throwing them under the bus? I'm saying we get the verterans to find health insurance and health care that meets their needs in the private market. Seriously, this isn't the first time the VA has messed up some poor guy. You think some government employee knows better than the veteran what his health care needs are?
Are you actually telling me that you want them to stay in a system that is as terrible as the VA?
A private hospital would have provided better care.
Perhaps.
It would be interesting to see if privitizing Veterans care would be cheaper than what we have now, with better services provided.
No, I mean get rid of veterans care altogether. Let them get health coverage from their new jobs or some other non-government source or pay for it out of pocket.
Sorry no.
I can't get behind that.
I won't throw veterans under the bus.
How are you throwing them under the bus? I'm saying we get the verterans to find health insurance and health care that meets their needs in the private market. Seriously, this isn't the first time the VA has messed up some poor guy. You think some government employee knows better than the veteran what his health care needs are?
Are you actually telling me that you want them to stay in a system that is as terrible as the VA?
No, but I am saying the gov't (we taxpayers) should still cover the costs.
No, but I am saying the gov't (we taxpayers) should still cover the costs.
Why? They volunteered. No one forced them to join the military and go fight. They got paid. Once they are out, they need to get themselves jobs and health coverage. You may as well be advocating that we pay the health care costs of McDonald's employees.
That's an interesting reversal from your usual position on government spending.
I find it amusing how ordinary people can't get the same level defense from RH just for being humans.
There is a word for that. It is one of RH's favorite words to use. ;)
They volunteered. No one forced them to join the military and go fight. They got paid. Once they are out, they need to get themselves jobs and health coverage.
Uh, dude, theres still 'Nam vets alive you know, you do know that right?
So yeah, some vets were forced to go, well i mean I guess they could skipped town or whatever, but they were definetly not volunteers.
And Im siding with RH on this one, Vets put their lives on the line for our Country, the least we can do is make sure they get taken care of, they way this country treats its veterans, especially seniors, is shameful, they should be able to go to a real hospital, not the VA one!
But yeah, guy should of known better than to trust his junk with the VA, sad to say, but its true.
That's an interesting reversal from your usual position on government spending.
Well, I think this time he's one of the receiving ;)
In Nam they weren't there to defend US citizens. They were there just to make sure Vietnam stayed in the empire.
No, they were there to defend South Vietnam from the vile infection of Communism, you know, that dasterdly and despicable form of gov't you love so much.
No, but I am saying the gov't (we taxpayers) should still cover the costs.
Why? They volunteered. No one forced them to join the military and go fight. They got paid. Once they are out, they need to get themselves jobs and health coverage. You may as well be advocating that we pay the health care costs of McDonald's employees.
They are defending this country and the people what live in it, even people like you.
Volunteers or not, they deserve our support.
They are defending this country and the people what live in it, even people like you.
No they're not.
Volunteers or not, they deserve our support.
No they don't. They applied for a job, and they got it. They got paid for their job and got health coverage plus other benefits while they were employed to do that job. Once they are out, they need to get their own coverage like the everyone else.
I'm not wasting my time arguing with you.
Uh, dude, theres still 'Nam vets alive you know, you do know that right?
So yeah, some vets were forced to go, well i mean I guess they could skipped town or whatever, but they were definetly not volunteers.
They should die off soon. I guess we can make an ecception for them, bu the rest should get their own coverage.
And Im siding with RH on this one, Vets put their lives on the line for our Country, the least we can do is make sure they get taken care of, they way this country treats its veterans, especially seniors, is shameful, they should be able to go to a real hospital, not the VA one!
So what? There are many people that put their lives on the line while on the job, and we don't pay for their coverage. Look at police officers. They put their lives on the line, and everywhere politicians are trying to make cops pay for their own health coverage. I don't see RH standing up for them. Why are veterans any different? They aren't. Veterans should pay for their own coverage, like everyone else. Senior veterans? Well, they should have planed better for retirement, don't you think? Instead, they want the government to hand-hold and coddle them.
But yeah, guy should of known better than to trust his junk with the VA, sad to say, but its true.
He should have known better than to join the military.
Itd be nice if there was no need for a military, but unfortunatly, not the world we live in.
It would be nice, but what does that have to do with veterans paying for their own health care instead of leeching off the government?
Oh, I'm pretty sure nobody pelican'd what was pelicanin on. Or something. ;)
I pelican'd on you while you were sleeping.
Sweet.
Yes, now tell everyone how you also think veterans need to get their own health care coverage.
Well they should. They weren't leeches on society when they were in the service, why should they be allowed to be once they're out?
But... soldiers deployed in a warzone don't pay income taxes. Wsan't that the definition of a leech on the government dole until sometime yesterday?
Well they should. They weren't leeches on society when they were in the service, why should they be allowed to be once they're out?
But... soldiers deployed in a warzone don't pay income taxes. Wsan't that the definition of a leech on the government dole until sometime yesterday?
Well in that case, they also need to start paying taxes.
Well they should. They weren't leeches on society when they were in the service, why should they be allowed to be once they're out?
But... soldiers deployed in a warzone don't pay income taxes. Wsan't that the definition of a leech on the government dole until sometime yesterday?
Well in that case, they also need to start paying taxes.
Are you kidding?
Do you actually know what these brave young women and men go through? Just so you can belittle them?
Really HS?
Well they should. They weren't leeches on society when they were in the service, why should they be allowed to be once they're out?
But... soldiers deployed in a warzone don't pay income taxes. Wsan't that the definition of a leech on the government dole until sometime yesterday?
Well in that case, they also need to start paying taxes.
Are you kidding?
Do you actually know what these brave young women and men go through? Just so you can belittle them?
Really HS?
Hold on a sec. Paying taxes belittles people? Really? Is that what you are saying?
And by the way, those "brave young men and women" are getting paid for the job they applied to and got hired to do. They are getting plenty of recompense for the job they do. They get a salary, they get room and board, and they get school paid for (if they choose to go).
Soldiers are government employees, where does the government get its money?
Taxes. However, that mone is being used to pay people who are providing a service. Also, government employees still pay taxes. What makes soldier any different? Why should they get special treatment? They shouldn't. Soldiers should pay taxes like everyone else.
It could be said that ALL government emplyees are leeches, but you know what? I dont mind paying taxes so vets can see a decent doctor...
Except soldiers conitue to get benefits after they are no longer employed by the government. Would you expect a private employer to continue to pay health benefits to an employee who quit? Why should soldiers continue to get health benefits after they quit? Why should soldiers be exempt from paying taxes? They volunteered to do the job, and they get paid to do that job as well. They need to pay taxes, and once they are out, they need to find their own health care coverage either through a new employer or pay for it themselves.
its those politicians i cant stand, if anybody should be "cut off" its them!!
They should be cut off as well.
Two words: 'tee' and 'hee'.
Shut it!