That's how we play
It's more about knowing a bad guy will inevitably escape justice (or escape that cardboard prison that holding him). Then it becomes more of a necessity to kill him.
It's not only about destroying evil without mercy, though.
It's more about knowing a bad guy will inevitably escape justice (or escape that cardboard prison that holding him). Then it becomes more of a necessity to kill him.
In D&D terms it's a CG character preventing a LG character from letting the L get in the way of G. ;)
And yes, I did stop for a moment and applaud my computer monitor in a moment of nerdy adoration for Vaarsuvius' badassery.
The real bad-assery, IMO, is that they are racing against the clock to save the entirety of existence from being om-nom-nommed
Err…can you translate the highlighted part into English, please?
Err…can you translate the highlighted part into English, please?
I'll take a shot: eaten? Keep the world from being eaten/devoured?
I am slightly disappointed with myself for making a semi-accurate guess. People actually look at that stuff?
Well, they aren't gonna make memes by themselves, they need those >9000 views to live.
On topic: it seems that V didn't even knew if Kubota was evil. Does that sound like your groups as well? I hope not.
Drackthor, quick question: Why is it so bad to kill a villain who won't stop killing? He surrendered, but just in the hopes we would allow him to live and go to court, where he could contact allies to help him escape if he can't 'prove' himself to be innocent.
Not mine. We make sure we have the right villain before he gets to swallow bombs.
Drackthor, quick question: Why is it so bad to kill a villain who won't stop killing? He surrendered, but just in the hopes we would allow him to live and go to court, where he could contact allies to help him escape if he can't 'prove' himself to be innocent.
Let me answer: PCs get a side-quest about preventing the villain from doing so? ;)
Just for clarification, we only take the law into our hands with the really sick ones. Bandit lords and other small fries like that get to court. The ones with genocidal tendencies and other things along those lines get to go BOOM. So we don't just kill any villain. Just the ones who have no respect for life and enjoy killing. The kind that kills just to kill. Like Nightmare.
OotS rocks!
When do we get Roy back?
Honestly, if someone on a web forum says a phrase and you decide it's stupid, well golly that's just dandy, but how about you keep it to yourself, because it doesn't add anything to the topic at hand, and makes us divert from an interesting thread topic to defend one's self from passive-aggressive nonsense.
And now, back to our previously scheduled post.
Drackthor, quick question: Why is it so bad to kill a villain who won't stop killing? He surrendered, but just in the hopes we would allow him to live and go to court, where he could contact allies to help him escape if he can't 'prove' himself to be innocent.
What exactly is the difference between a villain who kills and will continue killing for no reason, and a Hero that decides to weigh logic against emotion, with the almighty logic winning out. He might escape, and he may kill more people, so why spare him? Because he won't be the only villain the PCs will ever face. There will be more, and more, and more. Eventually the Villain that won't stop killing has only one difference with the hero who won't stop killing: Explanation.
Now I'm not saying every villain needs to go to jail and serve his time when dispatching him would save more lives, but when the default choice goes from capture to kill, it's no longer Hero vs. Villain, it's Murderer With Socially Accepted Reasoning vs. Murderer With Socially Unaccepted Reasoning.
EDIT: And darn it all, I couldn't even be at peace with what I had first typed up. The truth is, I'm not a 4chan-goer, I'm not a /b/tard or whatever you want to call it. I'm a guy who found a few goofy images with a funny phrase attached to it and got a few chuckles from it; and if that's an offense towards the newly-appointed Internet Police, get out the ball & chain.
I have a great respect toward you, Jayne, your posts are very intelligent and agreeable usually, but this crassness you've been showing recently makes me a sad camper. And to the other person that was ashamed to guess properly, I don't know you, but I'm sure you're a fine fellow yourself.
Thanks for hearing me out, and my apologies if any of the above sounds offensive, but if people swing at me, I swing back.
when the default choice goes from capture to kill, it's no longer Hero vs. Villain, it's Murderer With Socially Accepted Reasoning vs. Murderer With Socially Unaccepted Reasoning.
In that case my players aren't heroes (at least not last game before I killed them all at level 1
). Although I tend to disagree they weren't heroes. They would have eventually tried to save the world. If that isn't being a hero I don't know what is.In that case my players aren't heroes (at least not last game before I killed them all at level 1
But how are they saving the world?
By this I mean, at what point would you say that "saving the world" doesn't balance out other actions? If they sacrifice a town full of innocents (not necessarily literally, but essentially trade their lives) to save the world, they're still heroes, right?
Or does that make them anti-heroes?
Or maybe I'm just getting tired of the "darker and edgier" trend out there.
That's not to say that OOTS wasn't neat. And V was totally in character...but V's likely TN. He doesn't care about Good, necessarily. Elan, meanwhile, is Chaotic, and got burned a couple times by "the system" already, so I'd imagine that's why he's not too riled.
They would have eventually tried to save the world. If that isn't being a hero I don't know what is.
The world? That's where I keep all my stuff!
It would depend on the reason wouldn't it. I remember in Slayers Try the demons of the world helped save it so they could try to destroy it themselves later. Also if someone goes and messes up the planet it would be worth conquering.
I love OoTS.