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Petting my dog

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#1
coix
Jul 19, 2008 16:08:47 Before i owned a dog i was baffled often by dog owners. I liked dogs before i had one, and i didnt mind a dog coming up to me and liked to pet it. But now that i own two beagles and train them seriously, i have a changed view.

/rant on
When a dog comes up to you, and you pet it, you are rewarding it. Dogs love affection and its a great reward for your dog. The problem is you are rewarding the dog for its actions. If the owned is yelling "heel", "stop", "come", "sit", and you pet the dog after it ignores its "master's" command word you are giving it rewards for failure.

So when a dog jumps on you, and you pet him, you are rewarding him to jump on you. This might not be a problem if it wasnt for children and people that legitamately dont like dogs.

The last point is that when strangers give rewards to random dogs that come up to them, it teaches dogs to approach people strangers, even if they are across the street and a car is comming.

So next time you see a dog thats not yours, please don't pet it w/o permission.

/rant off
#2
jimbo7987
Jul 19, 2008 17:35:56 Never! When I see a cool dog run up to me, I'm petting that dog! Its just natural.
#3
rictras_shard
Jul 19, 2008 17:50:25
Never! When I see a cool dog run up to me, I'm petting that dog! Its just natural.

But how do you know that dog is cool? All the other dogs might think that particular canine is a nerd.
#4
tigervirgo
Jul 19, 2008 18:25:14 Your statements are very true. Especially when its a seeing eye dog. I have seen so many people want to pet a seeing eye dog because they respect its duties. However, it is sending out the wrong message.

Although your speaking in terms of a pet, I see animals like children. They are quite honestly a part of the family. If a young child comes running up to a complete stranger and the parents yell because the child left their side. They are not yelling because they want to control the youngster. They are yelling to teach the child danger & proper behavior.

I am not a big dog lover. I'm more of the independent Felis catus types (cat) LOL. I respect and honor the loyalties of dogs. However, in the minds of many household cats, they view dogs as "too needy". LOL Sorry, been around cats too much here. LOL
#5
farmer42_dup
Jul 19, 2008 18:45:46 If your dog is allowed a run, then you're setting it up for neighbors to react to dogs like that. Calling them over is not the neighbor's fault is is yours as the owner. I like my dogs and trained them as well, but you're bypassing the very real responsability in training the dogs if you are honestly concerned about the dog getting hit as it runs across the street. Fencing, both invisible and visible will solve that particular problem if it's a real risk. Our dogs are allowed to run the the neighborhood, but we also have no major roads near us and the people living in and around us all have dogs as well. We're more likely to know a dog better than it's owner, since the territoy of the neighborhood pack is somewhere around a square mile.

Now, Service dogs are another matter, and should be left alone while working, unless you are told by their patient that you can pet them. That's basic courtest, and their harnesses even say it, so unless you're blind you have no excuse really.
#6
jimbo7987
Jul 19, 2008 20:16:54 To be honest Coix, I can understand your point, but petting a dog that takes a random liking to you is one of the simple pleasures in life. Can't we just relax and enjoy life for all its smooth, mellow flavor?
#7
Nathreet
Jul 19, 2008 21:35:21 My dog gets pet all the time and usually doesn't care much for it anymore. Especially when it's done in consolation for something else. He just ducks his head out of the way, widens his eyes and stares as I leave.
#8
zombie_babies
Jul 21, 2008 9:09:18 Hmm. When I saw "Petting my Dog" by a poster named Coix, I kind of got a different idea of what this thread was gonna' be about. I'm happy I was wrong. ;)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 coix Jul 19, 2008 16:08:47	Before i owned a dog i was baffled often by dog owners. I liked dogs before i had one, and i didnt mind a dog coming up to me and liked to pet it. But now that i own two beagles and train them seriously, i have a changed view. /rant on When a dog comes up to you, and you pet it, you are rewarding it. Dogs love affection and its a great reward for your dog. The problem is you are rewarding the dog for its actions. If the owned is yelling "heel", "stop", "come", "sit", and you pet the dog after it ignores its "master's" command word you are giving it rewards for failure. So when a dog jumps on you, and you pet him, you are rewarding him to jump on you. This might not be a problem if it wasnt for children and people that legitamately dont like dogs. The last point is that when strangers give rewards to random dogs that come up to them, it teaches dogs to approach people strangers, even if they are across the street and a car is comming. So next time you see a dog thats not yours, please don't pet it w/o permission. /rant off
#2 jimbo7987 Jul 19, 2008 17:35:56	Never! When I see a cool dog run up to me, I'm petting that dog! Its just natural.
#3 rictras_shard Jul 19, 2008 17:50:25	Never! When I see a cool dog run up to me, I'm petting that dog! Its just natural. But how do you know that dog is cool? All the other dogs might think that particular canine is a nerd.
#4 tigervirgo Jul 19, 2008 18:25:14	Your statements are very true. Especially when its a seeing eye dog. I have seen so many people want to pet a seeing eye dog because they respect its duties. However, it is sending out the wrong message. Although your speaking in terms of a pet, I see animals like children. They are quite honestly a part of the family. If a young child comes running up to a complete stranger and the parents yell because the child left their side. They are not yelling because they want to control the youngster. They are yelling to teach the child danger & proper behavior. I am not a big dog lover. I'm more of the independent Felis catus types (cat) LOL. I respect and honor the loyalties of dogs. However, in the minds of many household cats, they view dogs as "too needy". LOL Sorry, been around cats too much here. LOL
#5 farmer42_dup Jul 19, 2008 18:45:46	If your dog is allowed a run, then you're setting it up for neighbors to react to dogs like that. Calling them over is not the neighbor's fault is is yours as the owner. I like my dogs and trained them as well, but you're bypassing the very real responsability in training the dogs if you are honestly concerned about the dog getting hit as it runs across the street. Fencing, both invisible and visible will solve that particular problem if it's a real risk. Our dogs are allowed to run the the neighborhood, but we also have no major roads near us and the people living in and around us all have dogs as well. We're more likely to know a dog better than it's owner, since the territoy of the neighborhood pack is somewhere around a square mile. Now, Service dogs are another matter, and should be left alone while working, unless you are told by their patient that you can pet them. That's basic courtest, and their harnesses even say it, so unless you're blind you have no excuse really.
#6 jimbo7987 Jul 19, 2008 20:16:54	To be honest Coix, I can understand your point, but petting a dog that takes a random liking to you is one of the simple pleasures in life. Can't we just relax and enjoy life for all its smooth, mellow flavor?
#7 Nathreet Jul 19, 2008 21:35:21	My dog gets pet all the time and usually doesn't care much for it anymore. Especially when it's done in consolation for something else. He just ducks his head out of the way, widens his eyes and stares as I leave.
#8 zombie_babies Jul 21, 2008 9:09:18	Hmm. When I saw "Petting my Dog" by a poster named Coix, I kind of got a different idea of what this thread was gonna' be about. I'm happy I was wrong. ;)