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#1 jamfalcon_the_gnome Feb 23, 2009 0:23:17	It had to be done, with all the ninjas on this board (Glares at dirtyfrank). So, which side are you on? Fun, super-great pirates (Who are the best) Or stinking, fiendish ninjas?
#2 dirtyfrank Feb 23, 2009 0:25:23	I'm a ninja. I think Minja is a ninja too. Minja is so cool that if she's on your team you auto win. I think that this means the ninjas win. ;)
#3 Lord_Ventnor Feb 23, 2009 1:31:18	NO I refuse. No, shut up, just shut up. No.
#4 boj0 Feb 23, 2009 8:45:25	I decide to pick ninj...SNEAK ATTACK!
#5 The-Mage-King Feb 23, 2009 8:55:36	I know what trumps both: Undead mages. I be kidding, matey. Pirates be the way te go.
#6 ranadiel Feb 23, 2009 9:09:06	Pirates have the advantage in combat on ships, on land they are hosed. However ninjas are just cooler, so meh.....although I will give pirates credit for having a much more awesome popular manga(One Piece) based on them then ninjas get(Naruto).
#7 cherubaddon Feb 23, 2009 9:39:22	Ninjas. Don't know why, but definitely ninjas.
#8 Aerodyth Feb 23, 2009 9:50:40	I think this explains the whole situation clearly, of who is better.
#9 stompie5 Feb 23, 2009 10:55:50	I do not see how Pirates could win in a fight. Maybe if Pirates could see the Ninjas coming they could shoot the Ninjas, but that is the only way. But what are the chances you would see a Ninja coming for you (especially if you're drunk on rum and booty). However, it would be more fun to be a Pirate. In the end, I conclude that Ninjas would win in a fight, but Pirates win at life.
#10 jasonorlandohawk Feb 23, 2009 11:01:40	Ninja.
#11 The-Mage-King Feb 23, 2009 11:02:00	Aye, we be already winnin' at life. We be not needin' grammar, spellin', or years of difficult training. We get a ship, we get some rum, and we pillage. Ninja have te obey their lords an' all that. Teh loosers. Arr!
#12 oxybe Feb 23, 2009 11:20:37	money under the table, and rum on top of it, 'tis the greatest of lives. sex, rum & sea shanties, while being gently cradled by the ocean like a babe in it's mother's arms. listen to yer captain and he'll treat you right, disobey him and he'll make ye a example outta ye fer the others. and how does a pirate win in a fight? a cutlass to yer navel going strait to yer throat. we dinnay play by the rules me boyo... we play ta win. those ninjas might 'ave years 'o "training" but so do we: it be called life, and she's the nastiest of teachers i be telling ye.
#13 stompie5 Feb 23, 2009 11:28:31	You never see a Ninja with scars or wounds. They would just kill themselves if damaged. Pirates adapt to the changes by creating wooden legs and hands that can double as a weapon. Pirates also have gold teeth and cool hats. How can you argue with that?
#14 The-Mage-King Feb 23, 2009 11:32:12	Indeed, our side be winnin'. What be ye gonna do about it?
#15 minja_dup Feb 23, 2009 12:06:37	Ahh, the age old debate rears its ugly head again. Ninjas win. Pirates? Seriously, pirates? PAH-LEESE!
#16 powercat Feb 23, 2009 12:13:14	Pirates? Ninjas? VIKINGS! Not the NFL kind, either.
#17 jamfalcon_the_gnome Feb 23, 2009 12:15:44	Vikings are a similar idea to pirates, so they fall into the same group ;)
#18 stompie5 Feb 23, 2009 12:22:06	Ninjas are nothing but tools. The only things they ever do is whatever the master tells them to do, even if the Ninja doesn't want to do it (but the Ninja will since it is a tool). BORING. If a Pirate doesn't like what he hears, he can mutiny. EXCITING!
#19 zombie_babies Feb 23, 2009 12:27:38	Do we have to do this again? How many times is it now, anyway? *sigh* Fine then ... Ninjas. Pirates. And, lastly, you, dear reader, for playin' along.
#20 The-Mage-King Feb 23, 2009 13:18:19	Arrr, mate, that statement be this close te mutiny. Be ye a true dork? Take arr side.
#21 rictras_shard Feb 23, 2009 14:22:27	Ninjas, of course. As for ninja needing to heed masters, perhaps you have never heard of nukenin.
#22 rake Feb 23, 2009 14:59:22	Honestly... pirates? Pirates?? We're talking about drunken, ignorant cripples. Half of them have one leg, the other half have one eye. Some of them don't even have two hands. And they're slow. And drunk. To quote Dr. McNinja's dad, here, regarding the ancient pirate/ninja rivalry: "It's like an empty soda can fancying itself the ancient enemy of rifles."
#23 stompie5 Feb 23, 2009 16:07:31	As for ninja needing to heed masters, perhaps you have never heard of nukenin. Nope, please enlighten me.
#24 Lord_Ventnor Feb 23, 2009 16:25:39	Okay, fine, whatever. Pirates win. You know how? They have money. Lots and lots of money. So they just hire ninjas to take care of their ninja problem. $$$$$$$$$
#25 dirtyfrank Feb 23, 2009 16:45:08	I do not see how Pirates could win in a fight. Maybe if Pirates could see the Ninjas coming they could shoot the Ninjas, but that is the only way. But what are the chances you would see a Ninja coming for you (especially if you're drunk on rum and booty). However, it would be more fun to be a Pirate. In the end, I conclude that Ninjas would win in a fight, but Pirates win at life. But doesn't one win at life by living and wouldn't it be hard for a Pirate to live after a fight with a Ninja? Wouldn't this mean that Ninjas are better at living life seeing as they would actually be......you know....living instead of dead like the pirates?
#26 soulphantum Feb 23, 2009 17:45:23	A pirate orphan raised and trained as a ninja Yarbanzai!!!!
#27 annoyinglizardvoice Feb 23, 2009 17:54:22	Ninja here, but most of the folks I know are pirates.
#28 crimson_lancer Feb 23, 2009 21:44:54	Ninja. Pirates fail to plan for Conservation of Ninjitsu.
#29 sigil_beguiler Feb 23, 2009 22:16:46	It isn't about Ninjas vs. Pirates. No the true war is: Alien Pirates piloting Gundams vs. Predator Ninjas piloting Evas vs. Borg Vikings piloting Veritech. Of those one war though between Ninjas vs. Pirates, I am all for Pirates!
#30 dirtyfrank Feb 23, 2009 22:53:14	Since Ninjas do it form behind, does that make them butt Pirates?
#31 pigknight Feb 23, 2009 22:59:51	DirtyFrank do you play WoW? Anyway.... Arrrrg, Pirates be thoughfar than your lilly livered Ninjars.... ....arrrrr!
#32 dirtyfrank Feb 23, 2009 23:09:11	No, I don't play WoW. Why do you ask?
#33 pigknight Feb 23, 2009 23:18:31	"Rogues do it from behind" is a WoW thing. And Rogues = Ninjas.
#34 dirtyfrank Feb 23, 2009 23:21:47	Rogues have been doing it from behind since the 70's.
#35 rake Feb 24, 2009 8:46:19	"Rogues do it from behind" is a WoW thing. lololol n00b lrn2meme
#36 stompie5 Feb 24, 2009 9:48:51	But doesn't one win at life by living and wouldn't it be hard for a Pirate to live after a fight with a Ninja? Wouldn't this mean that Ninjas are better at living life seeing as they would actually be......you know....living instead of dead like the pirates? A Ninja's life is a dead one. Sure, they might be physicaly alive, but their soul is dead. They have no freedom. Their only reason to exist is to follow their master, and if they fail, they die. No one is perfect, and eventually the Ninja will fail and die. No room for free will in a Ninja's life style. They might be sneaky and know martial arts (which are cool), but they don't decide what to do with it. Sure, a Ninja could probably beat a Pirate in a fight, but at least the Pirate had freedom. The Pirate had it's own purpose. The Pirate had a soul.
#37 roac Feb 24, 2009 10:32:33	For looking at who wins we can look at that same McNinja comic. It is proven that a ninja's honor bound ways make him mentally weak. Take for example how he plays right into the pirates hands by betraying his family and getting knocked out. This also shows how pirates win in life by becoming MORE deadly under the effects of alcohol as opposed to McNinja's light weight self. Further proof of this can be seen in the tale of Blackbeard's death.
#38 crimson_lancer Feb 24, 2009 11:06:30	@Stompie5: Yeah, I don't think everyone serving in the Armed Forces is "dead inside," so I'm pretty sure you're just full of it. :P
#39 stompie5 Feb 24, 2009 11:28:16	@Stompie5: Yeah, I don't think everyone serving in the Armed Forces is "dead inside," so I'm pretty sure you're just full of it. :P I'm just kidding. Since this is a thread about Pirates and Ninjas, I figured we were all, "full of it." But seriously though, you can't compare Ninjas to the US Armed Forces. People don't even really know a lot about them, since they were so secretive. But people DO know a lot about Pirates. And knowledge is power, so more power for Pirates.
#40 dirtyfrank Feb 24, 2009 12:50:00	A Ninja's life is a dead one. Sure, they might be physicaly alive, but their soul is dead. They have no freedom. Their only reason to exist is to follow their master, and if they fail, they die. No one is perfect, and eventually the Ninja will fail and die. No room for free will in a Ninja's life style. They might be sneaky and know martial arts (which are cool), but they don't decide what to do with it. Sure, a Ninja could probably beat a Pirate in a fight, but at least the Pirate had freedom. The Pirate had it's own purpose. The Pirate had a soul. Pirates had an extremely strict social structure. A pirate had to keep his weapons extremely clean and taken care of unless they wanted to be flogged. A pirate crew had very little free will. The crew was really just the captain's little . Ninjas on the other hand were normal average people when they were not ninja'ing around. When they weren't on a mission they would be normal people having normal people fun.
#41 cherubaddon Feb 24, 2009 15:23:19	But people DO know a lot about Pirates. And knowledge is power, so more power for Pirates. There, you just stop making sense. More knowledge about pirates means more power over pirates. Ninjas win :D .
#42 rizen_isstaria_dup Feb 24, 2009 23:33:35	Thats easy considering that I AM a ninja. When I'm in uniform I'm always kicking ass. Heres a picture of me kicking someone ass, unfortunately it's not a pirate. Head butting pirates is a pass time of mine. Thats why you see so many pirates with gold teeth. Ninjas are the reason why pirates have peg legs and eye patches. Me and a few of my ninja associates have made a new techno ninja dance called the Mosquito. This is what it looks like
#43 dirtyfrank Feb 25, 2009 0:01:08	Rizen_Isstaria, do you have any embarrassing pirate photos of yourself? If a person looks cooler as a ninja than as a pirate then ninjas are better.
#44 baneofelves Feb 25, 2009 0:19:04	I do remember seeing a pic of her cosplaying as a pirate on her myspace. I think. Pull it up!
#45 stompie5 Feb 25, 2009 13:23:14	There, you just stop making sense. More knowledge about pirates means more power over pirates. Ninjas win :D . That's what the Pirates want Ninjas to think.
#46 kyros_tachyus Feb 25, 2009 13:31:13	Pinjas rule all. Bow down before them!
#47 Reg06 Feb 25, 2009 13:33:51	Crippled, half blind, disease ridden, uneducated, alcoholics with scurvy vs. highly trained, elite killing machines? It's not even a question. I'm surprised DrMcNinja only linked twice.
#48 rizen_isstaria_dup Feb 25, 2009 23:17:00	Oh snap! baneofelves got me ! I do have a pirate pic. I had to wear something and my ninja uniforms were at the dry cleaner. The picture it self is not embarrassing but what happened afterward was. I was mildly intoxicated and came across a mirror and do to the fact I normally head-butt pirates, ended up head-butting myself..it hurt.
#49 dirtyfrank Feb 25, 2009 23:20:42	Oh snap! baneofelves got me ! I do have a pirate pic. I had to wear something and my ninja uniforms were at the dry cleaner. The picture it self is not embarrassing but what happened afterward was. I was mildly intoxicated and came across a mirror and do to the fact I normally head-butt pirates, ended up head-butting myself..it hurt. Show
#50 filthyfrank_dup Feb 25, 2009 23:30:10	Ninjas FTW!
#51 rizen_isstaria_dup Feb 26, 2009 0:03:00	dirtyfrank I suppose I could be schizophrenic. Still, my ninja side would certainly win. I do have an embarrassing pirate picture, too embarrassing to post. It's a picute of me with my friend giving the shocker symbol next to my face, I look very unhappy.
#52 m-bark Feb 26, 2009 2:44:27	The ninjas would win, since they would disguise themselves (hey, they were more highly trained in that than in assassination, partly because it's needed for both information gathering and assassination!), and the pirates would then not see them coming. In some scenarios the pirates would have a chance though, especially if the ninjas don't do the thing they do best or they fail at doing the thing they do best (not being detected as being a ninja). Scenario #1: Ninjas disguise themselves as pirates. Pirates see them as friendly and welcome them aboard. Pirates celebrate their increasing numbers and talk about how they'll be sure to beat the Ninjas now. Pirates fall to sleep after drinking a lot of rum. Ninjas kill the Pirates in their sleep. Endscore: Pirates nil; Ninjas all. Scenario #2: Ninjas disguise themselves as pirates. Pirates see them as a threat to their dominance in the area since they would have to compete over resources (ships to enter and port towns to loot). They end up shooting many of the Ninjas, quickly bringing their numbers down. In the end, only one Ninja is left standing. The Rule of Ninjutsu kicks in and the Ninja systematically kicks all the Pirates' asses. When only the Captain is left standing, the Ninja takes him in and sells him to the highest bidding authority that wants to hang him. Right before his execution the Captain tells the crowd about his hidden treasure, thus causing many to go out to see and become Pirates themselves in search of the treasures. Endscore: Ninjas: one; Pirates: a lot. Scenario #3: Ninjas disguise themselves as hot-looking wenches (preferably barmaids). Pirates take them in for a night of fun, possibly killing a few that failed their Disguising 101 classes or the ones that look plain ugly (though for some Pirates that may not matter at all). Ninjas make the Pirates into eunuchs. Jack Sparrow calls out eunuchy snip-snip at Will and the Ninjas disappear again. The Ninjas wait a few decades until all the eunuch Pirates are dead. Since they couldn't create bastards anymore, the number of Pirates has been drastically lowered, possibly down to zero. The new Pirates are nothing like the old Pirates and don't act like men anyway, even though they aren't eunuchs. Endscore: Ninjas win, Pirates lose their balls (in more ways than one). Scenario #4: Rather than the Ninjas doing their thing with stealth, they choose to meet the Pirates out in the open. Because this is an honourable act to do your fighting in that manner, they instantly turn into Samurai. Endscore: Ninjas none; Pirates a lot; Samurai make this a whole new ball game.
#53 zombie_babies Feb 26, 2009 9:09:33	Ninjas and Pirates both lose. Ya' know why? Bears. That's why.
#54 Bluenose Feb 26, 2009 10:21:43	I know which I prefer. Show
#55 dirtyfrank Feb 26, 2009 12:41:29	I know which I prefer. Show
#56 toastedamphibian Feb 26, 2009 16:20:49	The ninjas would win, since they would disguise themselves (hey, they were more highly trained in that than in assassination, partly because it's needed for both information gathering and assassination!), and the pirates would then not see them coming. In some scenarios the pirates would have a chance though, especially if the ninjas don't do the thing they do best or they fail at doing the thing they do best (not being detected as being a ninja). A few things to think about: Scenario #1: Ninjas disguise themselves as pirates. Pirates see them as friendly and welcome them aboard. Pirates celebrate their increasing numbers and talk about how they'll be sure to beat the Ninjas now. Pirates fall to sleep after drinking a lot of rum. Ninjas kill the Pirates in their sleep. Endscore: Pirates nil; Ninjas all. The pirates would notice if the new "Pirates" where not drinking with them. Real pirates have higher alcohol tollerance than ninjas. Scenario #2: Ninjas disguise themselves as pirates. Pirates see them as a threat to their dominance in the area since they would have to compete over resources (ships to enter and port towns to loot). They end up shooting many of the Ninjas, quickly bringing their numbers down. In the end, only one Ninja is left standing. The Rule of Ninjutsu kicks in and the Ninja systematically kicks all the Pirates' asses. When only the Captain is left standing, the Ninja takes him in and sells him to the highest bidding authority that wants to hang him. Right before his execution the Captain tells the crowd about his hidden treasure, thus causing many to go out to see and become Pirates themselves in search of the treasures. Endscore: Ninjas: one; Pirates: a lot. I'm not sure the rule of Ninjutsu works in ship to ship combat. I don't know that Ninjutsu has alot of sea swimming enhancment ability. Sinking an enemy pirate is usually preferable to trying to board them. (too dangerous.) Scenario #3: Ninjas disguise themselves as hot-looking wenches (preferably barmaids). Pirates take them in for a night of fun, possibly killing a few that failed their Disguising 101 classes or the ones that look plain ugly (though for some Pirates that may not matter at all). Ninjas make the Pirates into eunuchs. Jack Sparrow calls out eunuchy snip-snip at Will and the Ninjas disappear again. The Ninjas wait a few decades until all the eunuch Pirates are dead. Since they couldn't create bastards anymore, the number of Pirates has been drastically lowered, possibly down to zero. The new Pirates are nothing like the old Pirates and don't act like men anyway, even though they aren't eunuchs. Endscore: Ninjas win, Pirates lose their balls (in more ways than one). Interesting... One generation would not be enough though. Probably have to neuter 3 generations atleast. Scenario #4: Rather than the Ninjas doing their thing with stealth, they choose to meet the Pirates out in the open. Because this is an honourable act to do your fighting in that manner, they instantly turn into Samurai. Endscore: Ninjas none; Pirates a lot; Samurai make this a whole new ball game. Honorable ninja dont become samurai, they just fail at being ninjas. Ninja Rejects.
#57 jamfalcon_the_gnome Feb 26, 2009 19:32:17	I know which I prefer. Show
#58 m-bark Feb 27, 2009 8:56:59	A few things to think about: The pirates would notice if the new "Pirates" where not drinking with them. Real pirates have higher alcohol tollerance than ninjas. Wouldn't the Pirates be too busy drinking to notice some among them not drinking all that much? I'm not sure the rule of Ninjutsu works in ship to ship combat. I don't know that Ninjutsu has alot of sea swimming enhancment ability. Sinking an enemy pirate is usually preferable to trying to board them. (too dangerous.) The Rule of Ninjutsu always kicks in when there is just one ninja; it's not about ships, it's about Ninjas and the Pirates they kick (and the Pirates that shoot back). Interesting... One generation would not be enough though. Probably have to neuter 3 generations atleast. Eh, I'd put it at two. Honorable ninja dont become samurai, they just fail at being ninjas. Ninja Rejects. You misunderstood the point there though: honorable ninja don't become samurai, yes, because they weren't ninja to begin with. They were just samurai dressed up as ninjas. I know it's supporting the wrong team, but I have to post this: (It's not mine, I've just seen it before) The wenches are totally ninjas. (The ones in Scenario #3. ;))
#59 minja_dup Feb 27, 2009 11:50:10	Ninjas rule. Pirates drool.... over themselves.... its a bad and disgusting habit they should get over. Although... I am biased... of course...
#60 zombie_babies Feb 27, 2009 12:05:13	Hello ... bears? Ever heard of 'em? The bane of all ninja and pirate kind? Yeah, those bears. They win. Again.
#61 minja_dup Feb 27, 2009 12:17:56	Ahh... zombie_babies, I didn't realize you were such a nice guy at heart. My favorite was always Bedtime Bear... yours? ;)
#62 1_ton_ghost Feb 27, 2009 12:23:16	Intensive Care Bears?
#63 zombie_babies Feb 27, 2009 12:29:25	Pullin' a baneofelves, eh Minja? I thought that was beneath you. You should be ashamed. And I'm not a nice guy. Quite the opposite, in fact. Character assasination is against the CoC. And so is editing the text in another member's post. Not cool. Not at all. I'll not be reporting this, though, so that it can stand as an example of what not to do as a member of this community. :P
#64 toastedamphibian Feb 27, 2009 14:51:21	Samurai would not dress up as Ninja! If it is pretending to be a ninja, it is not a samurai. Samurai Fail.
#65 stompie5 Feb 27, 2009 16:00:19	Pirates still exist to this day, unlike the extinct Ninja. Ninjas can't adapt to change.
#66 zombie_babies Feb 27, 2009 16:06:24	Bears exist to this day, too. And they're still bears. So bears win. Again. Even fluffy Care Bears. Cuz bears are better.
#67 stompie5 Feb 27, 2009 16:10:00	A lot of bears are endangered species (at least the big tough ones), slowly going the way of the Ninja, while Pirates are making a big come back.
#68 cherubaddon Feb 27, 2009 16:20:16	The fact that you not only have never seen a ninja, but from this indeed go so far as to infer that ninjas no longer exist just demonstrates how far, how utterly they have won. Pirates live and die by their individual fame. Fame is ephemeral. Ninjas exist on uncertainty and conspiracy theories. And I am always amazed at how long those last.
#69 awestriker Feb 27, 2009 18:10:58	NO I refuse. No, shut up, just shut up. No. While Lord Ventnor does indeed make a forceful argument for "this shouldn't be here", I side with Ninjas. Who doesn't love FULL CONTACT DOWNHILL GYMNASTICS ?
#70 rizen_isstaria_dup Feb 27, 2009 22:45:50	Pirates still exist to this day, unlike the extinct Ninja. Ninjas can't adapt to change. Just because there hasn't been a History channel special about there being current ninja sitings like there was with pirates doesn't mean they don't exist. You don't see ninja. I'm sure there isn't any hidden ninja villages anymore, or people in dark cloths throwing kunai. Although I'm sure there are (or has been) undercover Yakuza, which would make them a ninja.
#71 dirtyfrank Feb 27, 2009 22:59:02	A ninja is an assassin. The last I looked there are still assassins around. This means that there are still ninjas. :D
#72 tiwaztyrsfist Feb 27, 2009 23:07:56	Pirates still exist to this day, unlike the extinct Ninja. Ninjas can't adapt to change. Your naivete is alarming... If ninjas don't exist anymore, who the heck assassinated JFK? Eh? That incompetent Oswald? They how do you explain the seventeen Shuriken wounds in the presidents back, Eh? Did you even Watch the Zapruder film? I thought not... Need more crazy juice. Back in a few.
#73 m-bark Feb 28, 2009 8:20:45	Samurai would not dress up as Ninja! If it is pretending to be a ninja, it is not a samurai. Samurai Fail. Did you know that ninja were also trained in the same stuff as samurai? Including the use of guns?
#74 minja_dup Feb 28, 2009 9:44:21	While Lord Ventnor does indeed make a forceful argument for "this shouldn't be here", I side with Ninjas. Who doesn't love FULL CONTACT DOWNHILL GYMNASTICS ? I LOVE full contact downhill gymnastics. It is sooo fun!!! You never know who you are going to bump into.... :D
#75 dirtyfrank Feb 28, 2009 9:45:50	I LOVE full contact downhill gymnastics. It is sooo fun!!! You never know who you are going to bump into.... :D Girls of course. Everyone knows that.