Suffice to say, I'll probably never get a DS, even if they ARE recently making the PSP look like a NeoGeo Arcade Machine.
They'd kill Blizzard in a whim.
Nintendo is constantly making me angry by releasing new Pokemon games that aren't MMOs.
They'd kill Blizzard in a whim.
My personal wish is for a Pokémon RPG for the Wii that takes advantage of an internet connection somehow. Not a full MMORPG, though.
I used a combo of Rare Candy and actually leveling.
Of course then I one upped that, by having monsters above the max level. I stopped at Pokemon Gold. (the one where you had Pikachu in the start)
I sank about 200 hours into Diamond, and was building an IV/EV trained competitive team. I finished my Charizard and I think was working on Garchomp.
I then proceeded to lose my game cartridge, which had all of my awesome pokemon in it.
All of them.
Of course then I one upped that, by having monsters above the max level. I stopped at Pokemon Gold. (the one where you had Pikachu in the start)
Don't you mean Yellow? That's before Gold.
I think a pokemon MMO for the Wii would kill. Especially if they let you start from any part of the world and explore the whole thing.
I bet you'd start from Kanto (the Generation 1 region) and the other ones would be available as add-ons. I think it would be best if it was distributed like Guild Wars (i.e. each part being playable on it's own and featuring a different region, all of them compatible with each other).
my current "team" (for lack of a better word) is:
100 alakazam (my fav old-school one... glass cannon... AWAY!)
100 garchomp
82 metagross
47 gallade (Mean Look + hypnosis + false swipe... gotta catch em all :D)
somewhere-in-his-teens Bibarrel (I named him Useless, but he can learn SO MANY TMS... O_O)
8 starly (fly + defog)
i haven't really messed much with the breeding of IV's... WAY too much work for me. EV's are easy enough to keep track of.
not too sure which i'm going to level after metagross. i don't have full access to all of the 'mons yet though.
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i always liked pokemon. it's a pretty dark world in actuality:
there is nothing like having an entire global society not just condoning the confining of animals to small areas, forcing them into ****-fights and betting on them, while selectively breeding & enhancing growth through steroid use, as well as allowing flash mutations to occur with no real respect to the animal's well being... but allowing this "sport" to thrive and become the most popular sporting event in it's known history, as well as having down to a science.
it's beautiful.
Dragonite
Tentacruel
Sunflora
Girafirig
Magneton
Houndoom
As you can see, I'm kind of fond of odd type combinations (and Dragonite!). In Sapphire, which a friend lent me indefinitely, I have:
Magneton (It's a personal favorite, okay?)
Swampert
Sableye (omgnoweaknessessocool)
Beautifly (I... can't really explain this one)
Machoke (because I have no one to trade with)
Cradily (rock/grass? Sure.)
Never got into the newer games, or any of the console games beyond Stadium.
It was hard raising some Pokemons into the mid-twenties with just that low-level area to work with.
My team in Emerald was
Growvile
Aggron (My fave)
Torkoal
Swellow
Manetric
Hariyama
Also, Infernape's awesome. Flaming monkey. All that needs to be said.
Whilst all of my cheap-ass friends used the Rare Candy trick on Red and Blue, I manually raised my "perfect team" to max level (which actually gives better stats, anyway)
I tested that and found it's a myth. First I used the cloning trick in Pokémon Crystal and then traded them to my Pokémon Red and proceeded to level one manually and the other with rare candies. While the stats did not turn out identical as the two Pokémon (Pidgeys) leveled up, neither ever became clearly superior to the other. The trick is a bit harder to test in later games, so I can't comment on that.
i always liked pokemon. it's a pretty dark world in actuality:
there is nothing like having an entire global society not just condoning the confining of animals to small areas, forcing them into ****-fights and betting on them, while selectively breeding & enhancing growth through steroid use, as well as allowing flash mutations to occur with no real respect to the animal's well being... but allowing this "sport" to thrive and become the most popular sporting event in it's known history, as well as having down to a science.
it's beautiful.
And they put Michael Vick in jail. What a travesty ...
then again, i'm a pretty twisted person heh heh heh.
Thinking back to it, I still have to facepalm when I remember that in Yellow, the first of the games I played, I never got past Viridian Forest, simply because I didn't see a door at the end.
It was hard raising some Pokemons into the mid-twenties with just that low-level area to work with.
Oh man, I feel for you. The first time I played through Red, my team was a travesty. I had something like a level 63 charizard against the elite four, and my next highest was a high 30's Hitmonchan. I evolved a Jigglypuff into Wigglytuff at level 3 (which stops it from ever learning new moves), so it had Pound and Water Gun from a TM. I'm pretty sure I was still using it at the end of the game.
Kept failing on the elite four, so I finally realized I might have to actually strategize a bit. Restarted, levelled my team evenly, and absolutely ruined the elite four.
While Pokemon might not have started my RPG obsession (that prize goes to Mario RPG), it certainly fueled the fire.
darned Brock and his "ooh, look at me, my guys are made of rock. what? i'm made of nerfing you entirely! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. probably wish you had a bulbasaur or squirtle now, huh?"
then i go level up in the forest by incinerating the bug-type population to near extinction and slag Brock's chumps. then comes Misty and her watery "goodness".
sigh.
by that point i learned to super level my dudes to ridiculousness because the game is out to get me and that the kadabra line of pokemons was, and still is, da **** yo (i didn't know about trade evolutions yet so at the time it was Abra > Kadabra. the end).
still had a load of fun though.
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my first real RPG was Dragon Warrior on the NES. stupid swamp.
Groudon
Kyogre (I only got sapphire so I could trade him over to my ruby one)
Rayquaza
Salamence
Blaziken
The final form of the grass thing that you can pick up, too. forget the name, I trade him in from sapphire as well.
my first real RPG was Dragon Warrior on the NES. stupid swamp.
Me too! I remember walking to this city to get this special armor and then finding out when I got there that it was a destroyed city and I'd have to fight my way through. Man, that ****** me off. And every time a metal slime got away. That was annoying, too. But in a good way. :D
I started with the classic MYSTIC QUEST for NES, baby!!! YEAH!
another charizard starter, eh?
darned Brock and his "ooh, look at me, my guys are made of rock. what? i'm made of nerfing you entirely! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. probably wish you had a bulbasaur or squirtle now, huh?"
then i go level up in the forest by incinerating the bug-type population to near extinction and slag Brock's chumps. then comes Misty and her watery "goodness".
sigh.
by that point i learned to super level my dudes to ridiculousness because the game is out to get me and that the kadabra line of pokemons was, and still is, da **** yo (i didn't know about trade evolutions yet so at the time it was Abra > Kadabra. the end).
still had a load of fun though.
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my first real RPG was Dragon Warrior on the NES. stupid swamp.
They specifically put Mankey in the starting zones in Yellow because Brock used Rock types. Thinking back, it was a huge oversight on their part that you could fight a gym leader without access to anything that could even do normal damage to them, let alone be "super effective" or whatever.
Well, I guess there was the possibility of Butterfree (and Confusion), but it was incredibly rare in Red, almost moreso than Pikachu. Really, Charmander starters in Red were just screwed for the first and most likely second gym.
Actually, if you went towards the dead end that eventually was the exit BACK to Pallet Town from the Elite Final Battles, there were Nido-whatever pokemon that could definitely put a dent in Brock's boys. Nidoking was actually one of my favorites.
Oh yeah, Nidoran. It didn't learn Double Kick until it was rather over-levelled anyway, didn't it? I think it learned it sooner in Yellow (once again, to correct the whole Brock issue)...
pokemon!!!Current team:
Ampharos (Thunder, Signal Beam, Rain Dance, Thunderwave)
Banette (Shadow Claw, Sucker Punch, Will-O-Wisp, Confuse Ray)
Lanturn (Thunderbolt, Surf, Aqua Ring, Thunderwave)
Shedinja (Shadow Claw, X-Scissor, Toxic, Swords Dance)
Tropius (Solar Beam, Air Slash, Sunny Day, Synthesis)
Still trying to decide on a 6th. I experimented with both Torkoal and Tentacruel, but meh...
No, I don't play competitively, and yes, I know my team wouldn't survive competitively. I'm okay with that.
@A_D: Yeah, it really isn't a significant difference, especially since you're just one-hitting everybody at that level, so it was mostly just for the bragging rights and that tiny bit of HP that might just save your Blastoise from dying via Thunder.
Oh, that I can relate to.
"Breloom, use Focus Punch! WHERE'S YOUR GOD NOW?!"
"Licky-Licky, use EXPLOSION!"
"Guess what Vespiqueen does this turn? That's right! It uses Defense Order!"
Oh, good times.
Also, I just bought the original Pokemon theme off of iTunes. God, I love iTunes.
- Glass canon opener.
Lvl 100 Slow Bro
- My favorite piggy...bear...thing...
Lvl 100 Swinub
- Piggy! :D Also, I breeded it so it knew Earthquake and Surf or w/e its called.
Lvl 100 Boar-thing that evolves from swinub
- Moar piggy! It knew Horndrill from carefull breeding.
Lvl 100 Miltank
- Cao!
Lvl 100 Caterpie
- 2 years of work. It knew Flamethrower, Thunder, Horndrill and Earthquake. Then I got maxxed stats. Gotta love breeding.
Lvl 100 Alakazam
- Glass canon opener.
Lvl 100 Slow Bro
- My favorite piggy...bear...thing...
Lvl 100 Swinub
- Piggy! :D Also, I breeded it so it knew Earthquake and Surf or w/e its called.
Lvl 100 Boar-thing that evolves from swinub
- Moar piggy! It knew Horndrill from carefull breeding.
Lvl 100 Miltank
- Cao!
Lvl 100 Caterpie
- 2 years of work. It knew Flamethrower, Thunder, Horndrill and Earthquake. Then I got maxxed stats. Gotta love breeding.
That caterpie is an unholy abomination. I'm impressed.
Anyway, nice job on making a team completely for the lulz.
Pokemon also strongly inspired two of my homebrewed races (which I'm still in the fleshing out and updating for 4e). The charadra and the risian were orginally fan-pokemon characters that I almost made into a comic (yes, I'm that geeky). The charadra still resemble raichu in appearance, but the risian are a bit more removed from their original source.
Well, I guess there was the possibility of Butterfree (and Confusion), but it was incredibly rare in Red, almost moreso than Pikachu. Really, Charmander starters in Red were just screwed for the first and most likely second gym.
Charmander was actually not as gimped against Brock as most people thought. Back in the RBY days, Brock's pokemon were not equiped with rock type moves to nail Charmander's weakness, and Charmander could to low, but no insignificant damage, with Ember due to geodude's and onix's low Sp.Def. Switching Charmander in after a pokemon with Growl lowed their attack was a pretty effective strategy. Difficult, but you could get by in a pinch. And there would be plenty of pokemon along the way to the second gym to pick up the slack against Misty.
Lvl 100 Caterpie
- 2 years of work. It knew Flamethrower, Thunder, Horndrill and Earthquake. Then I got maxxed stats. Gotta love breeding.
Shinanigans! Caterpie lacks both egg moves and TM, and even its evolved forms can't learn those moves. Surely you meant some other bug-like pokemon.
Charmander was actually not as gimped against Brock as most people thought. Back in the RBY days, Brock's pokemon were not equiped with rock type moves to nail Charmander's weakness, and Charmander could to low, but no insignificant damage, with Ember due to geodude's and onix's low Sp.Def. Switching Charmander in after a pokemon with Growl lowed their attack was a pretty effective strategy. Difficult, but you could get by in a pinch. And there would be plenty of pokemon along the way to the second gym to pick up the slack against Misty.
Yeah, I won that fight by ember spamming, and switching to growl when Onyx used Bide. It was tough, but doable. Still, the first boss shouldn't be such a headache because you happened to pick a fire type as your starter.
As for Misty... The only pokemon you could pick up on the way that could beat her were Oddish and Pikachu, if I recall correctly. Sure, you had a chance to pick up a few that weren't necessarily weak to her, but your options for pokemon that were strong against her were sharply limited.
They did a much better job in gold/silver, where you could get an Onyx for the first gym, and several flyers for the second. Also, it was possible to get Gastly nearly right off the bat, which was pretty darn cool. Of course, one of the starters was still screwed against the first two gyms.
As for Misty... The only pokemon you could pick up on the way that could beat her were Oddish and Pikachu, if I recall correctly.
Don't forget Bellsprout and Paras. And Butterfree is always a terrific pokemon for early in the game (except for my last one, which enjoyed pummeling the Elite Four :P)
Sure, you had a chance to pick up a few that weren't necessarily weak to her, but your options for pokemon that were strong against her were sharply limited.
True, but you really didn't need a pokemon that were strong against her either. Except her Starmie. Honestly, I found battling Misty and her Starmie far more annoying than Brock, even with pokemon with a type advantage.
They did a much better job in gold/silver, where you could get an Onyx for the first gym, and several flyers for the second. Also, it was possible to get Gastly nearly right off the bat, which was pretty darn cool. Of course, one of the starters was still screwed against the first two gyms.
I agree. G/S did a great job at toning down the Nintendo difficulty. The latter remakes of R/B were better in this regard as well. Most notably, for me at least, was the sharp reduction of rock type pokemon in caves, which had an annoying habit of shrugging off most of your party's moves for a large majority of the game.
(lv.10) to have Fly, Cut, Flash, Dig purely for HM slave
Man the original was fun :D
Don't forget Bellsprout and Paras. And Butterfree is always a terrific pokemon for early in the game (except for my last one, which enjoyed pummeling the Elite Four :P)
Paras was available there in Red? And I thought Bellsprout was Blue exclusive at the time? Forgive me, I haven't played Red in forever.
True, but you really didn't need a pokemon that were strong against her either. Except her Starmie. Honestly, I found battling Misty and her Starmie far more annoying than Brock, even with pokemon with a type advantage.
That Starmie was a beast. Brock's pokemon didn't have particularly high attack scores, which made the fight against them tolerable, at least. That Starmie could shred you, though.
I agree. G/S did a great job at toning down the Nintendo difficulty. The latter remakes of R/B were better in this regard as well. Most notably, for me at least, was the sharp reduction of rock type pokemon in caves, which had an annoying habit of shrugging off most of your party's moves for a large majority of the game.
I think Red/Blue were only Nintendo Hard for the first three gyms (although you could pretty much waltz through the third one with a Diglett), and Sabrina's gym. Outside of Jolteon, there was really nothing that had a bug or ghost attack that wasn't weak to her psychics anyway, on account of being half poison (I'm looking at you, Beedrill and Gengar!).
As for rock types in the caves, yeah, those were extremely annoying. Equally frustrating were the bloody Zubat swarms, though! Heck, Zubat is even the poster child for the ******* Bats page on TV Tropes.
Paras was available there in Red? And I thought Bellsprout was Blue exclusive at the time? Forgive me, I haven't played Red in forever.
You can find them in Mt Moon, but they're pretty rare though. I think you have to be in the lower levels of Mt Moon to find them. As for Bellsprout, I didn't realize you was talking specifically about the red version, so sorry about that. I always think in terms of generation when I talk about pokemon: RBY, GSC, RSRLE, DPPt
I think Red/Blue were only Nintendo Hard for the first three gyms (although you could pretty much waltz through the third one with a Diglett), and Sabrina's gym. Outside of Jolteon, there was really nothing that had a bug or ghost attack that wasn't weak to her psychics anyway, on account of being half poison (I'm looking at you, Beedrill and Gengar!).
I didn't have too much problems with any of the gyms past Misty's. Sabrina was never really all that tough as long as you had at least one bulky pokemon with a decent physical attack, as the Abra family were even more of a glass cannon back then. My favorite anti-kazam weapon back in the day was a Hypno with Hypnosis and Mega Punch. Simple, but it got the job done.
And Pin Missile with Jolteon has always been a trap; a flavor move and nothing more due to Jolteon's poor Atk. Which is sad really, because it would be an awesome for it to use regularly. It might have even been a decent novelty move in the current edition if they had made it a special attack, which I think fits better with the nature of the attack anyway. But I'm digressing now.
As for rock types in the caves, yeah, those were extremely annoying. Equally frustrating were the bloody Zubat swarms, though! Heck, Zubat is even the poster child for the ******* Bats page on TV Tropes.
Honestly, I never had too many problems with zubats. I could deal with Super Sonic and Confuse Ray easily enough, and most pokemon can damage them regularly; and I was pleasantly surprised with how tough, useful, and cute they could be the first time I trained one in G/S. It was always more annoying to me how hard it was to level pokemon that couldn't damage rock-types easily, like Raichu for example. Doubly so when going through Victory Road.
Charmander was actually not as gimped against Brock as most people thought. Back in the RBY days, Brock's pokemon were not equiped with rock type moves to nail Charmander's weakness, and Charmander could to low, but no insignificant damage, with Ember due to geodude's and onix's low Sp.Def. Switching Charmander in after a pokemon with Growl lowed their attack was a pretty effective strategy. Difficult, but you could get by in a pinch. And there would be plenty of pokemon along the way to the second gym to pick up the slack against Misty.
I picked Charmander on my very first go-through of Pokemon Red. I found that it worked rather well against Brock, since Brock's Pokemon are still susceptable to being burned. If Brock's Onyx gets burned, beating it is almost an inevitability, since its attack power drops quite a bit.
The one thing I can't figure out is why Nintendo Power originally suggested that a Charmander-users's best bet of beating Brock was a Pikachu. I am not kidding. It has to be the worst Pokemon-related advice I have ever seen.
The one thing I can't figure out is why Nintendo Power originally suggested that a Charmander-users's best bet of beating Brock was a Pikachu. I am not kidding. It has to be the worst Pokemon-related advice I have ever seen.
Maybe they watched the cartoon? Ash's Pikachu was OP.
@Fireclave: I was pleasantly surprised with Crobat's effectiveness as well. As for Jolteon, while it doesn't have much in the way of an attack score, the Kazam family has even less defense, so Pin Missile will still rip them apart. Failing that, it is possible to muscle through the majority of that game, including Sabrina.
With Zubat/Golbat, it was never a huge problem beating them, but it often turned into an exercise in annoyance. "Oh great, Dragonair is confused again. Switch out, and... get hit with another Confuse Ray. *Sigh*. Switch back..." Which sucked, because golbat was a great source of EXP in GSC, especially on the ice path. Victory Road was a great place to grind, but the pokemon came in two varieties (in silver, anyway): Rock/Ground, and Flying/Poison. Chances are, the pokemon that was good against one sucked against the other. Oh, and the Gravelers enjoyed Self Destruct, though it was always good for a laugh when they did that to a ghost or something.
I was pleasantly surprised with Crobat's effectiveness as well.
I wasn't even talking about Crobat. Considering how often I 1-hit the guys, Zubat can was actually alot more effective in battle than I thought it would be. Not only was it nice to be on the sending end of the iconic bat, Lil' Zuzu could actually deal some decent damage as well once replaced that dinky Leech Life with a decent move like Bite. It's Crobat evolution was just icing; sweet, delicious, vanilla icing.
As an aside, the 'bat family can now get Hypnosis as an egg move, so the cake now has sprinkles as well ;)
As for Jolteon, while it doesn't have much in the way of an attack score, the Kazam family has even less defense, so Pin Missile will still rip them apart.
You do have a point, but that's too much of a nich use for me.
With Zubat/Golbat, it was never a huge problem beating them, but it often turned into an exercise in annoyance. "Oh great, Dragonair is confused again. Switch out, and... get hit with another Confuse Ray. *Sigh*. Switch back..." Which sucked, because golbat was a great source of EXP in GSC, especially on the ice path. Victory Road was a great place to grind, but the pokemon came in two varieties (in silver, anyway): Rock/Ground, and Flying/Poison. Chances are, the pokemon that was good against one sucked against the other. Oh, and the Gravelers enjoyed Self Destruct, though it was always good for a laugh when they did that to a ghost or something.
I am quite aware of the confusion annoyance. I could normally beat them before they could confuse my pokemon, or just ignore the confusion status and end the battle quickly anyway. In the RBY days, wild 'bats didn't have much in the way of really good offensive moves, so you don't really lose much for losing a turn and taking some minor damage when confusion works. I guess I'm also pretty patient as far as these things go, since I rarely let such annoyances get to me.
Also, I normally had my pokemon equipped with a wide range of moves, so it was rare for any of my pokemon to only be able one take down one and not the other (Electric and Grass types being the obvious exceptions, and in later games not even then). The rock types simply were tougher, more durable, had stronger attacks, and were resist to the (then) swiss army knives that were Normal moves, which made them more dangerous prey. Also, they liked to explode to make you waste a pots and revives, which made fighting them more expensive too.
Sunflora (Beats ground, not golbat)
Dragonair (not strong against either)
Magneton (can't hurt ground, beats golbat)
Girafirig (beats everything, since ground types have such low special defense)
Pidgeot (okay against golbat, loses to graveller, loses to donphan if it uses rollout)
Tentacruel (okay against golbat, beats everything else)
Trying to grind the Sunflora and Pidgeot was the worst. I've since decided that pure grass types really aren't worth the trouble, and there's a reason that pidgey is so easy to catch (hint: it sucks). I replaced the pidgeot with a Houndoom, which made the team oh so much better.
I've always preferred Gyarados to Tentacruel (which sucks, 'cause Tentacruel's frickin' awesome).
Never liked Gyrados, personally. It's got a nice meaty attack score, but it never gets any flying attacks, making its second type a complete liability (doubles its electricity weakness, gives it a weakness to rock, a type it would otherwise beat without question, gives it immunity to ground, which it would beat as a water type anyway, strips away its ice resistance... ugh)
Now, tentacruel is a poison type, which gives it weaknesses to psychic and ground (but water is super effective against ground anyway, and tentacruel is pretty much always going to be faster than a ground type, so call this one a wash), but takes away its weakness to grass. Also, it has insane special defense and very good speed. Its attack is high enough to use powerful poison attacks like Sludge Bomb (in gold and silver this was a TM), so teach it that and surf and you're in business.
Checking my old copy of Silver, my Tentacruel is set up with Surf, Sludge Bomb, Barrier, and Screech.
And just look at Tentacruel. The thing is freakin' sweet. Never thought a jellyfish could be so badass. Gyrados also gets style points for looking scary enough to make small children cry, but I'll pick Tentacruel over it every time, if only so I don't have to slog through 5-15 levels of Magicarp.
Well, my last team in silver on victory road was:
Sunflora (Beats ground, not golbat)
Dragonair (not strong against either)
Magneton (can't hurt ground, beats golbat)
Girafirig (beats everything, since ground types have such low special defense)
Pidgeot (okay against golbat, loses to graveller, loses to donphan if it uses rollout)
Tentacruel (okay against golbat, beats everything else)
Trying to grind the Sunflora and Pidgeot was the worst. I've since decided that pure grass types really aren't worth the trouble, and there's a reason that pidgey is so easy to catch (hint: it sucks). I replaced the pidgeot with a Houndoom, which made the team oh so much better.
Pidgeot's actually not that bad pokemon. While it's not spectacular in any area, it has well-rounded stats and a decent selection of moves. It far from sucks (you must be thinking of Farfetch'd...poor Farfetch'd). Steel Wing would have helped it greatly against Gravelers, and Fly would have greatly reduce the effectiveness of Rollout since its attack power resets to 30 on a miss. Even with Stab, your Pidgeot would probably too much to worry about from that attack so long as you kept a few Lemonades handy. Recent versions have given Pidgeot some useful tricks, so its more attractive then what it was in GSC. I don't disagree with your decision to bench Pidgeot though. Your team needed the type diversity that Houndoom brought in.
If it didn't have the move already, a simple Headbutt TM or an Ice/Electric/Rock-type Hidden Power would have gave Sunflora at least a fighting chance against Golbats, since its default movesets are devoid of any non-Grass attacks. But those flying type attacks would still be a pain.
Dragonair has several moves available to it that would have helped it chew up rock and flying types with ease, such as Iron Tail, Icy Wind, and Ice Beam, so they're no reason why it should be having a hard time against those types unless your strategy for its moveset simply didn't have room for alterations.
While it's Sp.Atk is hard to beat, Magneton's always been more of a one-trick pony pokemon and suffered from the same shallow moveset problem as Sunflora, so that's no surprise. It's one of the reason's why I normally electric types with lower electrical power but broader move sets. But even then, it's unlikely for an electric type to solo Graveler unless it's armed with a water/grass/ice HP with a decent attack power, or has access to water attacks, like Chinchou and Raichu.
Admittedly, at that point in the game I was leery about using TMs on any of my pokemon, because I didn't have my final move/team setup completely thought out.
My Pidgeot seemed to have rather mediocre stats, though this wasn't helped by its best move outside of Fly being Wing Attack. I don't think normal/flying has a place on a well rounded team, truthfully. I would have used Skarmory if I weren't using Magneton and Sunflora already (having three pokemon weak to fire would not be the smartest move ever).
Sunflora does suffer from a rather single-track moveset, so it was often a one trick pony (and that trick was usually 'kill things tentacruel could probably kill anyway'). Using it at all was something of an experiment. I wish I had used Meganium or something instead.
As for Magneton... I just like it. I understand it isn't necessarily the best electric type, but I like how it looks and its large number of resistances. It can learn Rollout, but it doesn't have the attack to make use of it, and it doesn't really cover its weaknesses anyway.
Never liked Gyrados, personally. It's got a nice meaty attack score, but it never gets any flying attacks, making its second type a complete liability (doubles its electricity weakness, gives it a weakness to rock, a type it would otherwise beat without question, gives it immunity to ground, which it would beat as a water type anyway, strips away its ice resistance... ugh)
Gyarados doesn't really need flying-type attacks as it has equally good alternatives. Gyarados has a nice, diverse moveset that many water types can't match, including electric (which makes it a good choice against other water types), ice, and dragon attacks in GSC, and fire, and even Earthquake in later editions to handle slower moving electric types. And it's immunity to ground attacks works against more pokemon than ground types, as Earthquake is a popular move in competitive battling.
Even more so in later editions with the addition of 2-on-2 battles, where Earthquake nails all pokemon on the screen besides the user, including your partner pokemon. Gryrados makes a great partner to a Earthquake user; especially Rhydon since it can draw and absorb all eclectic attacks, making its x4 electric weakness a non-issue. But I'm digressing again.
Admittedly, at that point in the game I was leery about using TMs on any of my pokemon, because I didn't have my final move/team setup completely thought out.
Ah. I've been there lots of times. I'm still there. There is where I live, it seems.
I don't think normal/flying has a place on a well rounded team, truthfully.
It can, and I've done it before. The trick is the same with any pokemon; finding a nich on your team that it can fill. It's moveset, however, doesn't lend itself easily to that in earlier editions. Hyperbeam was one of my favorite attacks to give Pidgeot when I couldn't think of anything better. Decent Stats + High Speed + Stab + Weakened Pokemon + Spanish Inquisition == OMGWTFBBQBLARG!!1.
As for Magneton... I just like it. I understand it isn't necessarily the best electric type, but I like how it looks and its large number of resistances.
I understand how you feel. My favorite pokemon is Raichu, but there's one electric pokemon in particular that just outclasses it in well-roundedness (grrrr...Dinklebuzz...)
(for thoses not in the know, Shaymin is an event-only Poke'mon that rivals Mew in rarity)
I never actually use Electric-type Pokemon on my teams. My Alakazam always just has whatever Electric nastiness I can find.
I liked how fire/thunder/ice punch were all TMs in Gold and Silver. No more swapping abra back and forth to level it.
Oh, and I restarted Sapphire just for kicks, mostly because of this thread. I have to say: HOLY CRAP THE FIRST GYM. It's like Brock on acid. At least they're merciful enough to give you some water types in the early game, but most of them are weak to rock (Wingull, Surskit) anyway! Since I started with Torchic, I'm having a really tough time. Currently I've got a Surskit, Dustox, Ralts, and the aforementioned Torchic, so three of my four are weak to rock, and the other has such poor defense it gets one shotted anyway. I think I'm going to need to raise a Lotad to win this one. *sigh*
I liked how fire/thunder/ice punch were all TMs in Gold and Silver. No more swapping abra back and forth to level it.
Oh, and I restarted Sapphire just for kicks, mostly because of this thread. I have to say: HOLY CRAP THE FIRST GYM. It's like Brock on acid. At least they're merciful enough to give you some water types in the early game, but most of them are weak to rock (Wingull, Surskit) anyway! Since I started with Torchic, I'm having a really tough time. Currently I've got a Surskit, Dustox, Ralts, and the aforementioned Torchic, so three of my four are weak to rock, and the other has such poor defense it gets one shotted anyway. I think I'm going to need to raise a Lotad to win this one. *sigh*
There's also both plant-types and a Bullet Seed TM early in the game as well, which should help you make short work of Roxanne's rock-types.
There's also both plant-types and a Bullet Seed TM early in the game as well, which should help you make short work of Roxanne's rock-types.
Yeah, went and beat it right after I posted. I did it by exploiting the hell out of the dumb AI. Just hit Nosepass with Torchic's Growl 6 times while it sat around using Harden for no reason (every single one of my pokemon was using a special attack). So, even though it had a type advantage, it could barely scratch me by the end, so I outlasted her two potions. Simple.
Lvl 100 Alakazam
- Glass canon opener.
Nothing special sadly...
Lvl 100 Slow Bro
- My favorite piggy...bear...thing...
Still nothing special
Lvl 100 Swinub
- Piggy! :D Also, I breeded it so it knew Earthquake and Surf or w/e its called.
Hot swinub/nidoqueen (or king...I forget which...I know there was an order for the gender...) action.
Lvl 100 Boar-thing that evolves from swinub
- Moar piggy! It knew Horndrill from carefull breeding.
Hot piggy/rhino action.
Lvl 100 Miltank
- Cao!
Nothing special...
Lvl 100 Caterpie
- 2 years of work. It knew Flamethrower, Thunder, Horndrill and Earthquake. Then I got maxxed stats. Gotta love breeding.
Ok here's hot I did it:
1. Traded a copy of my Lugia for a Charzard.
2. Breed Charzard with a copy to create a Charmander with Flamethrower.
3. Grabbed my Bufferfle (or w/e it's called) from the bank.
4. Hot Charzard/Butterfle action...and lots of it...
5. Moar hot lizard/butterfly action...
6. Wait for it...
7. Ok I got a Catterpie that new Flamethrower (thank God it was the correct gender I needed).
8. Evolved it to Butterfle.
9. Grabbed my Pikachu.
10. Hot Pikachu/Buffterfle action...
11. This takes several tries...
12. Damn that 5% chance for a baby pokemon to know a random move from it's mom (or dad?)...
13. Ok got a Catterpie with Flamethrower and Thunder...
14.
Realize it's the wrong gender..15. Repeat steps 10-14 as needed.
16. Realise I've spend several weeks on this...
17. Grab my Nidoqueen (or King...).
18. Do the usual lengthy proccess for breeding Pokemon to learn moves they normally don't know...
19. Grind Elite Four for monies...
20. Buy stat boosters 'till they don't work no mo'.
Yeah, went and beat it right after I posted. I did it by exploiting the hell out of the dumb AI. Just hit Nosepass with Torchic's Growl 6 times while it sat around using Harden for no reason (every single one of my pokemon was using a special attack). So, even though it had a type advantage, it could barely scratch me by the end, so I outlasted her two potions. Simple.
Fortunately, when I played Sapphire, I discovered that I liek mudkips.
Lvl 100 Swinub
- Piggy! Also, I breeded it so it knew Earthquake and Surf or w/e its called.
Swinub cannot learn Surf. Perhaps you are thinking of Blizzard?
Lvl 100 Boar-thing that evolves from swinub
- Moar piggy! It knew Horndrill from carefull breeding.
Horndrill is not a swinub egg move or level-up move, and was only a TM in RBY, before breeding was introduced. Perhaps you are thinking of Horn Attack?
4. Hot Charzard/Butterfle action...and lots of it...
Charizard and Butterfree simply cannot breed together. Charizard belongs to the monster and egg groups. Butterfree belongs the Bug egg group. They will never breed together.
9. Grabbed my Pikachu.
10. Hot Pikachu/Buffterfle action...
Same problem here. Neither shares a common egg group.
12. Damn that 5% chance for a baby pokemon to know a random move from it's mom (or dad?)...
Breeding does not work like that. If the father knows an egg move or TM move that the baby could learn, the baby is born knowing those moves. Also, if both the father and mother know a learn up move the the baby could learn as a level up move, the baby is born knowing those moves. There's no %-chance involved. The baby automatically learns all that applies, and the new moves "push out" the baby's default moves if it would otherwise know more than 4.
17. Grab my Nidoqueen (or King...).
18. Do the usual lengthy proccess for breeding Pokemon to learn moves they normally don't know...
Egg group issues again.
And in any of the cases, it would be impossible for Caterpie to learn those moves even if you bred your butterfree with a compatible pokemon with moves in question.
Me thinks either your game cartridge, your pokemon, or the pokemon you were traded were glitched or haxxed.
And I swear I did it.
I guess it gliched...
So it wasn't legal?
So it wasn't legal?
Not by a long shot, unfortunately. Aww, and why the puppy dog eyes. Now I feel bad
I made a "for lulz" team that dominated the neighborhood.
I still have somewhere the remains of my Charmeleon/Wartortle deck.
Oh, and for cards I have a pretty good collection. I have been collecting since they came out, skipping a few years during the E-Reader and EX days.
My team? Legendary. I mean all legendaryexcept for the Infernape and the Milotic. ...What? I got a level 100 Milotic in a trade for a Mew and you don't expect me tto use it? Shame on you. i've got every single Legendary except for Manaphy, Celeby, and Shaymin. But those are the hard ones to get. Any one here who has Diamond/Pearl want a Mew and has one of those three? I'll trade you for it. I'm the guy called "Irksome".
Oh, and for cards I have a pretty good collection. I have been collecting since they came out, skipping a few years during the E-Reader and EX days.
I might want your Jirachi, I'll let you know
How about the TCG? You liked it?
I still have somewhere the remains of my Charmeleon/Wartortle deck.
I played the TCG for a little while. Maybe the first three sets or so? Then I got into Magic, and I found it much more fun.
However, my ability to enjoy the Pokemon anime really dropped off when I read what the main Pokemon manga was like. In comparison, the anime really seems like a lost opportunity. On the other hand, I have always liked the Pokemon movies. While some are better than others, the emphasis of the movies on creating really fantasic and amazing locations is something I never get tired of. Unfortunatly, I missed every showing of the Giratina movie so-far.
I need to be more attentive.Does anybody else think the old cartoons were/are better than the new ones?
No way! The new ones are both prettier and better written.
I don't think this is just nostalgia
Yes, it is. Just like people who think the old power rangers were better than the new ones. :P
It seems to be recycling old episodes or really dumb filler.
Actually, the older episodes have a lot more filler than the newer ones. ;)
Digimon > Poke'mon.
BTW
Digimon > Poke'mon.
TV show? HELL YES!
General concept? Hmm...
BTW
Digimon > Poke'mon.
That show was great but digimon could not compete with pokemon's games.
Nintendo is constantly making me angry by releasing new Pokemon games that aren't MMOs.
They'd kill Blizzard in a whim.
So I'm not the only one who had this amazing idea then. Go figure :P.
Yeah a Pokémon MMO would be fantastic.
They specifically put Mankey in the starting zones in Yellow because Brock used Rock types. Thinking back, it was a huge oversight on their part that you could fight a gym leader without access to anything that could even do normal damage to them, let alone be "super effective" or whatever.
Well, I guess there was the possibility of Butterfree (and Confusion), but it was incredibly rare in Red, almost moreso than Pikachu. Really, Charmander starters in Red were just screwed for the first and most likely second gym.
Heh, I some how wound up with a pigeot fairly early on IIRC. It was the one that was above Charmander that dropped him though. By the time I got to Misty it didn't matter what I had, cause I had quite a few different pokemon and I think I had managed to get some poison pokemon by then. Killed her's with DOTS *L* and by that point, probably Charizard... I should play Red again.. it was so fun.
Heh, I some how wound up with a pigeot fairly early on IIRC. It was the one that was above Charmander that dropped him though. By the time I got to Misty it didn't matter what I had, cause I had quite a few different pokemon and I think I had managed to get some poison pokemon by then. Killed her's with DOTS *L* and by that point, probably Charizard... I should play Red again.. it was so fun.
You get pidgeot at level 32, IIRC, and Charizard at 36. Are you sure you don't mean Pidgeotto (18?) and Charmeleon (16?). If you were that massively overlevelled, of course you smoked the first two gyms. You had 20 levels on Brock and 16 on Misty!
As for poison types... Beedrill and Ekans were pretty easily available at that point. Butterfree got Poison Powder, and I think so did Oddish. I recall poison kind of sucking in red, though. Except for Toxic, it seemed to do very minimal damage, though that could be me remembering poorly.
Speaking of which... WHY DO I REMEMBER THIS STUFF?! I haven't played Red in years!
*Well that and the World Ends with You*
Yes. T.W.E.W.Y. is definitely worth getting. It will make you partially ambidextrous. (When someone gives you a pre-set deck and thrusts you into battle, use the mic.)
Basically, spam Minimize and Hardboiled until it told me that I couldn't get any more evasive, then spam Seismic Toss.
I bought Pearl, and was disappointed when I learned I had to buy G/S to teach Chancey Seismic Toss.
I bought Pearl, and was disappointed when I learned I had to buy Fr/Lg/Em to teach Chancey Seismic Toss.
Fixed that for ya.
Fixed that for ya.
Yeah, thanks. I knew it was a game I didn't own, just didn't know which one.
[b]DAMN YOU!!!!!!![/b]
... Anyway, good games, one and all.
DAMN YOU, PEARL VERSION!THE ONLY CANINE EARLY ON IS A F@#KING SHINX!?!?
Actually, Shinx is almost definitely a feline. Notice the similarity between Shinx's art design and Kimba's. So...yeah.
Actually, Shinx is almost definitely a feline. Notice the similarity between Shinx's art design and Kimba's. So...yeah.
Don't destroy all hope the man has left now.
Ever wonder why they did not just make the newer games massive and let people go to all of the regions from the old games?
Don't destroy all hope the man has left now.
If it helps, dogs and cats shared a common ancestor as recently as about 20 million years ago. And I'm pretty sure all of the feline and canine pokemon belong to a common egg group. So, um...yeah...again.
Ever wonder why they did not just make the newer games massive and let people go to all of the regions from the old games?
Yes I have. I would have loved to be able to go back to Johto; Or even better, the option to choose what region to start in.
Though, if they did it like they did in G/S/C, I think all the regions to date might be a bit much for a single game playthough. I did find it kinda of weird that, after battling the best trainers in the region to just to get to the Elite Four, beating them, and becoming Teh Pokeman Masta, I go on vacation in Kanto to find everyone, from little ol' ladies to kindergartners, has pokemon at the same level as mine or higher (read: lvl 50+ and capable of taking on legendaries with ease). What...?
Now add three more regions.
That's not to say that I wouldn't mind having enough story-mode to entertain me until my pokemon reach lvl 100.
With all the Star Wars stuff on today I had a weird thought:
Darth Pikachewus.
Actually, Shinx is almost definitely a feline. Notice the similarity between Shinx's art design and Kimba's. So...yeah.
CURSE YOU, FIRECLAVE!!!
CURSE YOOOOOUUU!!!!!
Though, if they did it like they did in G/S/C, I think all the regions to date might be a bit much for a single game playthough. I did find it kinda of weird that, after battling the best trainers in the region to just to get to the Elite Four, beating them, and becoming Teh Pokeman Masta, I go on vacation in Kanto to find everyone, from little ol' ladies to kindergartners, has pokemon at the same level as mine or higher (read: lvl 50+ and capable of taking on legendaries with ease). What...?
Now add three more regions.
That's not to say that I wouldn't mind having enough story-mode to entertain me until my pokemon reach lvl 100.
Mm, that's not entirely true. There was a huge drop in the power level of your opponents after the elite four. Most of them were in the 30-40 level range. I don't think any of the Kanto gym leaders could hold a candle to Lance, and their pokemon also topped out at about level 50 (usually lower). Really the only one stronger than the elite four was Red, and maybe Blue, but there's good reason for that (both have been the league champion previously).
The difficulty in G/S/C was kind of all over the place. The first gym could be difficult and often descended into a Luck Based Mission because of that freakin' pidgeotto's Mud Slap, then the second gym was easier, unless the Scyther really got going with Fury Cutter, but it should've been dead long before that really became an issue. The Miltank in gym 3 could be problematic if you didn't trade for a Machop, but even without you could probably just muscle through. From there on the difficulty was basically non-existant until you got to Lance, unless you had a strong, fast Ice type.
Then you got to Kanto, which was a cake walk except for Blue, and finally there was Red, who had about 20 levels on every other trainer in the entire game! I still beat him with a party of mostly level 55 pokemon. I blame the game's crappy AI (and the fact that Snorlax can't do anything against a Misdreavous suicide bombing).
I would enjoy a massive pokemon game. Maybe one where you couldn't get to the league until you had been through every region, and were reasonably close to the level 100 cap anyway. Like:
Kanto (1-50)
Johto (51-70)
Hoenn (71-85)
Sinnoh (86-95)
League (96-100)
I would enjoy a massive pokemon game. Maybe one where you couldn't get to the league until you had been through every region, and were reasonably close to the level 100 cap anyway. Like:
Kanto (1-50)
Johto (51-70)
Hoenn (71-85)
Sinnoh (86-95)
League (96-100)
That would be awesome. I hated how the game ended like half-way though the levels.
That would be awesome. I hated how the game ended like half-way though the levels.
It was especially annoying because of Pokemon Stadium. I wanted to use my teams, but they were always too high level for the 50 bracket and too low for the 100 bracket. There was nothing you could actually grind on to get to level 100, since the highest level enemies in red/blue were in what, the high 60s? Grinding became way too much of a chore.
Mm, that's not entirely true. There was a huge drop in the power level of your opponents after the elite four. Most of them were in the 30-40 level range.
You're probably right. It has been too long since I played G/S/C, and I'm probably misremembering it with Fr/Lg, where the Sevii Islands is pretty much that. Though really, my complaint about verisimilitude rather than difficulty.
The difficulty in G/S/C was kind of all over the place. The first gym could be difficult and often descended into a Luck Based Mission because of that freakin' pidgeotto's Mud Slap, then the second gym was easier, unless the Scyther really got going with Fury Cutter, but it should've been dead long before that really became an issue. The Miltank in gym 3 could be problematic if you didn't trade for a Machop, but even without you could probably just muscle through. From there on the difficulty was basically non-existant until you got to Lance, unless you had a strong, fast Ice type.
I never had any problem with Pidgeotto in the first gym. I don't remember it ever using the move often enough to cause me any major problems, and it's easy to counter if it does become a problem (just switch out your pkmn). Fury Cutter was a joke. But I basically agree with the rest. Fighting Miltank that early in the game was always a challenge, though, IMO, Claire was a pretty noticeable difficulty bump on the way to battle Lance.
I would enjoy a massive pokemon game. Maybe one where you couldn't get to the league until you had been through every region, and were reasonably close to the level 100 cap anyway. Like:
Kanto (1-50)
Johto (51-70)
Hoenn (71-85)
Sinnoh (86-95)
League (96-100)
I don't think I would be completely satisfied with this set up. From a mechanical standpoint, its fine. However, while League trainers are strong, they're pokemon are not that strong. A lv96+ league would put 15 trainers worth of pokemon about 30-50 levels above most legendaries. And legendaries are suppose to be pretty much the cream of the crop as far as power goes, with only a scant few ever being able meet them. Not two mention three regions full of god-level pokemon. That would just feel kinda of odd to me.
CURSE YOU, FIRECLAVE!!!
CURSE YOOOOOUUU!!!!!
What did I do?
stupid hand-eating dog...DAMN YOU, PEARL VERSION!THE ONLY CANINE EARLY ON IS A F@#KING SHINX!?!?
Hey, I like Shinx. It was a nigh-permanent member of my roster in Pokemon Diamond.
Kanto (1-25)
Johto (25-40)
Hoenn (40-55)
Sinnoh (55-70)
League (70+)
One problem I could see with a massive game would be the region specific pokemon. Like how in G/S/C you couldn't get dark types until the middle of Kanto, and they topped out at about level 15. Your team would be in the 40s at least by that point, making the grind rather frustrating. The absolute worst offender would probably be the level 4 pikachu you can find after getting something like the 6th Kanto badge. If you wanted a Raichu on your final team, well, good luck with that.
I'd go more:
Kanto (1-25)
Johto (25-40)
Hoenn (40-55)
Sinnoh (55-70)
League (70+)
While this too is great from a mechanical standpoint, it fails to address region balance: What about trainers who want to start in Johto? They can get a lvl 25 Croconaw off the bat, or do they just not get to start there? Wild
Piplups are legenary tier, or do they start off too low to actually exist there? They can do things similar to WoW, every region has a starting zone (they actually do too), and then build up difficulty by towns and gyms. Then the Pokemon League can be a culmination that all regions come together at. Like the handhelds, once you beat the League, you can go off and explore the other regions or go to the Battle Frontier and finish off the level grind.
While this too is great from a mechanical standpoint, it fails to address region balance: What about trainers who want to start in Johto? They can get a lvl 25 Croconaw off the bat, or do they just not get to start there? Wild
Piplups are legenary tier, or do they start off too low to actually exist there? They can do things similar to WoW, every region has a starting zone (they actually do too), and then build up difficulty by towns and gyms. Then the Pokemon League can be a culmination that all regions come together at. Like the handhelds, once you beat the League, you can go off and explore the other regions or go to the Battle Frontier and finish off the level grind.
Brilliant.
Hey, I like Shinx. It was a nigh-permanent member of my roster in Pokemon Diamond.
Hey, no one's denying the pure win Shinx is made of; I'm just saying I wanted some canine pokemon. Shinx is my lead pokemon, dude! To hell with Turtwig; Shinx all the way! :D
Hey, I like Shinx. It was a nigh-permanent member of my roster in Pokemon Diamond.
Me too. My final lineup ended up being Infernape, Luxray, Empoleon, Torterra, Lucario, and Drifblim. (thx GTS! The Piplup I got was even JAPANESE!!!)
Strange combo, but it worked.
I hated Generation 3: worst pokemon designs and subpar music. Pain.
Gen.4 (D/P) is now infamous for NO FIRE-TYPES. There are two in the whole mainland. (Five if you count evolution.) AAARGGH! Plus they reused the Fire/Fighting starter combo from 3rd Gen.
I loved the idea of the Battle Frontier, even the Battle Tower from Crystal was cool, it just blew that they never gave experience or Pokedex entries for battles there. This could be a way that you would get to battle high level trainers and actually level from it. If they ever made an MMO for Pokemon (I hope they do) it would inevitably end up with powergamers the same way WoW does (look up competitive battling, cereal business) but thankfully, the very lore and set-up of the game basically says "Train your team to be Ubermon, think strategically, and execute decicivly (sp?)" Hmmm... What would everybody want to see in a Pokemon MMORPG?
Thanks for the positive support guys
Hmmm... What would everybody want to see in a Pokemon MMORPG?
Fixed it for ya'.
Anyway, I would just like to see a game with some damn customizability; I'm not much when it comes to fashion, but I'm pretty damn sure THIS:
Isn't exactly "cool".
Is that kid wearing a scarf, sweater vest and a beret?
Yes, yes he is.
Dear God, PLEASE tell me that kind of get-up isn't actually popular over in Japan...
And I used to think they were cool.
It doesn't seem to read the egg group.
I like the concept of the Pokemon games, but I'd prefer if the story were a little deeper.
That's what I like about the Pokemon games. The premise is simple. "Become the best Pokemon Trainer in the region." In part, that's what hooked me on the game. I work in the news business and it's nice to come home from a world where things are chaos and shades of gray and then fire up the Pokemon where the goals are clear and the world is whimsical, cheery and fun.
Fixed it for ya'.
Anyway, I would just like to see a game with some damn customizability; I'm not much when it comes to fashion, but I'm pretty damn sure THIS:
Isn't exactly "cool".
*Actually lies that look* Better than generic tough guy.
*Actually lies that look* Better than generic tough guy.
I don't really know if the main characters of any Pokemon game (besides Coliseum) count as "tough guys".
I don't really know if the main characters of any Pokemon game (besides Coliseum) count as "tough guys".
I was just saying in general.
I was just saying in general.
Fair enough; still, I preferred the GBA-Era look, myself...
Ruby/Sapphire guy: Shorts over pants???, a headband and a shot sleeve jacket. What weather is he dressing for? Is the cold stopping at his waist or something.
Wes looks a super villein. Not sure if that is a bad thing or a hilarious thing
And Wes (from Coliseum) was pure win:
You are now reading this post in my voice!
You are now reading this post in my voice!
It is horrifying that I immediately did hear this in Prof Oak's voice.
You are now reading this post in my voice!
I can't remember what Professor Oak sounds like and just can't imagine Ookido-hakase speaking English.
I still remember getting Delibird (Presents FTW) to 100. absolute favorite pokemon.
I couldn't stand Delibird, but I suppose everyone has some weird favorite. Mine was Beedrill in Red/Blue and Magneton in every other game.
My favorite was ladyba's evolved form. It sucked but I always used it.
Ledian? Ladian? something like that. I know the one you're talking about.
It was bad, yeah... It did learn Baton Pass, though. You could set up some nasty combos that way.
dawwww.
Those baby blues get me every time.
In the TCG I created a Fire/Electric deck (with a Charizard EX as the centerpiece and Pigeot as an energy factory) and I used it so often (over time I adapt tactics to what I'm using) that I was INVINCIBLE :evillaugh ! Unfortunately, by the time I got Charizard, FR/LG cards were illegal in official play
. Although, after a tournament where I was stuck using a deck hastily cobbled from some spare cards I had (incidentally, I was creamed), I battled one of the guys who wiped me, and I got to use my painstakingly crafted Charizard deck. He lost. Badly.
!
I've been a fan of pokemon since I was 11... I still get every generation that comes out... even when I decide earlier I'm not going to...My team:
Weavile (my fave generation IV pokemon. also my strongest and fastest)
Gengar
Electivire
Magmortar (didn't have to train magmortar or electivire... they were free from a friend's Battle Revolution game)
Gyrados (dragon dance rocks with this guy... at least in double battles where he doesnt always take all of the damage...)
and Hippodon (something like that... he is my "i cant figure out what to put here" pokemon)
I like to have legendaries for my collection, but i have a strong dislike for them, since they are so incredibly overpowered.
Besides, Infernape is the fastest, no doubt about it. At least after I pump its speed up...
Wimp. I've played since the first games, and I'm in my late teens.
Besides, Infernape is the fastest, no doubt about it. At least after I pump its speed up...
I played blue first and I'm in my early 20's...
*tries to figure out why I'm trying to win a dispute over who's played the longest*
'Cause I do.
Is it odd that I think it's cool that you can order a Haunted Refrigerator toslayknock out dragons?
'Cause I do.
doesn't get much better than that, my friend :D
Is it odd that I think it's cool that you can order a Haunted Refrigerator toslayknock out dragons?
'Cause I do.
That you consider something so mudane cool? Yeah, that's a bit odd.
:P
Pokemon Heart Gold and Soul Silver have been announced; great remake or greatest remake?
Any ideas for better ones?
Great(est?) remakes with not-so-great names.
Any ideas for better ones?
I think they're pretty good. Awfully ingrishy, but decent.
The names are fine, to bad there remaking the ones with the least interesting Starters *Totodile is the only decent one IMO*.
Typhlosion @ choice scarf with eruption is pretty interesting if you ask me.
Blissey uses Softboiled on the thread!
Pokemon Heart Gold and Soul Silver have been announced; great remake or greatest remake?
Well. it remains to be seen, but if Fire Red and Leaf Green are any indication, I'm leaning toward the latter. Then again, Johto was my favorite region ever, so I'm a bit biased.
The names are fine, to bad there remaking the ones with the least interesting Starters *Totodile is the only decent one IMO*.
Agreed. I usually went with Totodile to start, and then ditched him as soon as I found the water type I actually wanted to use.
Favorite Pokemon Team: Sceptile, Tyranitar, Milotic, Weavile, Honchkrow, Charizard
That's how I roll.
The names are fine, to bad there remaking the ones with the least interesting Starters *Totodile is the only decent one IMO*.
I have to vehemently disagree. I think Gold/Silver had the best starters. Meganium is hands down my favorite fully evolved starter to date, and Typhlosion is the only fully evolved fire starter I can stand. Heck, Gold/Silver was the only game where I didn't just ditch my starter at the first reasonable opportunity.
Nostalgia be damned, I still say pokemon design has gotten better over time.
At least until Diamond/Pearl, when I was pretty unimpressed. Ruby/Sapphire had quite a lot of good stuff in it.
I have to vehemently disagree. I think Gold/Silver had the best starters. Meganium is hands down my favorite fully evolved starter to date, and Typhlosion is the only fully evolved fire starter I can stand. Heck, Gold/Silver was the only game where I didn't just ditch my starter at the first reasonable opportunity.
Nostalgia be damned, I still say pokemon design has gotten better over time.
At least until Diamond/Pearl, when I was pretty unimpressed. Ruby/Sapphire had quite a lot of good stuff in it.
The whole design of the Chikorita line was boring, but at least they had decent stats *Not enought to make up for looking so boring though* and the less I say about Cyndaquil the better.
Personally, I prefer the current and previous Gen of Pokemon designs. The 1st Gen had some of my least favourite *Dragonite being one of the biggest offenders*, meh on second Gen, 3rd Gen introduced some of my favorite designs and mons *Aggron being one of my faves*, and 4th gen is just pretty awesome.
Typhlosion hits really hard in UU with scarfed or specced eruption. Feraligatr is a decent substitute for gyarados if you hate the 4x thunder weak or really need the extra 10 base power behind your ice move for some reason. He's also quite a good sweeper in UU as well. Meganium can't boast filling even a niche role as well as they can.
The whole design of the Chikorita line was adorable...
Fixed. :D
Meganium is really bad though, even compared to the other grass starters. Venusaur was a good wall in RSE and is an ok UU wall in DPP. Sceptile was ou in rse (I think, since he was one of the better subseeders) and does decently in this generation as well. Torterra would be good if not for that 4x ice weak. Meganium was kinda an ok wall in his previous incarnations, but there were always better options and in this generation he's largely overshadowed by most of the cast within his tier.
Typhlosion hits really hard in UU with scarfed or specced eruption. Feraligatr is a decent substitute for gyarados if you hate the 4x thunder weak or really need the extra 10 base power behind your ice move for some reason. He's also quite a good sweeper in UU as well. Meganium can't boast filling even a niche role as well as they can.
I don't' play competitively, so I honestly don't care a single bit. Anything works in-game, so I pick pokemon that I like and are awesome. Take your theorymon to somebody else. :P
I don't' play competitively, so I honestly don't care a single bit. Anything works in-game, so I pick pokemon that I like and are awesome. Take your theorymon to somebody else. :P
Play however you want. Since we were talking about which starters are better (and better is an objective term), I compared them in the only objective manner possible, since preference is subjective. As you said, the actual game is pretty easy, so use whoever you want, but it's pretty hard to defend the claim that Meganium is the best starter of the bunch.
A pokemon Red and Blue MMO would slaughter Wow like a White Goat. Perhaps that's why Nintendo has not done it yet. They feel sorry for Blizzard.
I used a combo of Rare Candy and actually leveling.
Of course then I one upped that, by having monsters above the max level. I stopped at Pokemon Gold. (the one where you had Pikachu in the start)
That'd be yellow ;)
Sadly, about 3 years ago my gameboy SP died after many long years of service. I haven't bothered to buy a DS since I don't have the money for it.
I once thought of converting pokemon to dnd stats....
That'd be yellow ;)
Sadly, about 3 years ago my gameboy SP died after many long years of service. I haven't bothered to buy a DS since I don't have the money for it.
I once thought of converting pokemon to dnd stats....
ok... that would just be AWESOME (says the geekiest part of me)... I once tried to do something similar... but didnt know where to start...
I once thought of converting pokemon to dnd stats....
Some people beat you to the punch. Here is someone's attempt to create both 3E stats for pokemon and a poke-master class. I think I have seen more complete versions of a similar project as well, but Google isn't finding any links for me.
Since we were talking about which starters are better (and better is an objective term), I compared them in the only objective manner possible, since preference is subjective.
Oh please, better is not always an objective term. :P
In context, I was speaking of creature design. I think that Meganium is the best designed fully evolved starter. I think it's cute and awesome-looking to a far greater extend than any of the other fully evolved starters.
As you said, the actual game is pretty easy, so use whoever you want, but it's pretty hard to defend the claim that Meganium is the best starter of the bunch.
No it most certainly isn't. Watch:
Venusaur looks fat and ugly and like it has skin problems, Charizard looks plain and oddly disproportionally skinny in the arms for what he's supposed to be, Feraligator looks monstrous and silly to me, Sceptile looks completely unbalanced like I have no idea how it moves around with that tail, Blaziken is a chicken so I can't take it seriously, Swampert is just too goofy-looking and I don't know what's up with its "tail" or how it supposedly moves around with it, Infernape is a primate and I think primates are creepy and I don't like them, and Empoleon has that weird thing surrounding his head so it looks like he can't turn his neck and his arms looks totally awkward like he tragically has no elbows.
That leaves Blastoise, Meganium, Typhlosion, and Torterra which aren't bad at all. Blastoise is jolly-looking and I think the water cannons are badass but I have trouble picturing him moving very efficiently and I like being able to picture a pokemon move, Typhlosion has a sleek and streamline look that also doesn't look like he's trying too hard to look badass like every other fire starter but he's just a little plain for it, Torterra looks jolly just like Blastoise and I think the tree growing out of his back is just adorable but he doesn't look capable of smiling which is sad. However, I think that Meganium looks cuter than all of these, is well proportioned, I can picture him moving realistically and non-awkwardly, and also looks big enough that nobody would mess with him; he's got that "real men wear pink" thing going on with the being a big dinosaur but wearing a giant pretty flower around his neck, like some massive bodybuilder wearing a tight, hot pink, T-shirt. Dare you to say something to him about it...
Claim defended. :P
I once thought of converting pokemon to dnd stats....
Been way ahead of you. It was 3.5, but take a look. :D
Oh please, better is not always an objective term. :P
In context, I was speaking of creature design. I think that Meganium is the best designed fully evolved starter. I think it's cute and awesome-looking to a far greater extend than any of the other fully evolved starters.
No it most certainly isn't. Watch:
Venusaur looks fat and ugly and like it has skin problems, Charizard looks plain and oddly disproportionally skinny in the arms for what he's supposed to be, Feraligator looks monstrous and silly to me, Sceptile looks completely unbalanced like I have no idea how it moves around with that tail, Blaziken is a chicken so I can't take it seriously, Swampert is just too goofy-looking and I don't know what's up with its "tail" or how it supposedly moves around with it, Infernape is a primate and I think primates are creepy and I don't like them, and Empoleon has that weird thing surrounding his head so it looks like he can't turn his neck and his arms looks totally awkward like he tragically has no elbows.
That leaves Blastoise, Meganium, Typhlosion, and Torterra which aren't bad at all. Blastoise is jolly-looking and I think the water cannons are badass but I have trouble picturing him moving very efficiently and I like being able to picture a pokemon move, Typhlosion has a sleek and streamline look that also doesn't look like he's trying too hard to look badass like every other fire starter but he's just a little plain for it, Torterra looks jolly just like Blastoise and I think the tree growing out of his back is just adorable but he doesn't look capable of smiling which is sad. However, I think that Meganium looks cuter than all of these, is well proportioned, I can picture him moving realistically and non-awkwardly, and also looks big enough that nobody would mess with him; he's got that "real men wear pink" thing going on with the being a big dinosaur but wearing a giant pretty flower around his neck, like some massive bodybuilder wearing a tight, hot pink, T-shirt. Dare you to say something to him about it...
Claim defended. :P
All you are doing is offering your personal preference, which is purely subjective. Calling something 'better' in this case is inconclusive, and thus the term is generally reserved for objective use. For subjective use, people generally say "I like this" rather than "this is better" in order to respect others' opinions and emphasize that their statements merely reflect their own preference.
If you want to argue graphical and conceptual design and the ability to appeal to more people, go ahead. Please note, however, that Meganium is a brontosaurus with stumpy legs and a flower around its neck, while Feraligatr is a rockin crocodile who can do a dragon dance, and typhlosion is a weasel with fire around his neck. They look quite cool, and Meganium looks like a dinosaur that evolved in the wrong direction :P
All you are doing is offering your personal preference, which is purely subjective.
I never suggested otherwise. :P
The post to which I was responding did the same thing.
Calling something 'better' in this case is inconclusive, and thus the term is generally reserved for objective use. For subjective use, people generally say "I like this" rather than "this is better" in order to respect others' opinions and emphasize that their statements merely reflect their own preference.
Well if you'll go back to the original post in which I voice said opinion, you will find that what I said was:
I think Gold/Silver had the best starters. Meganium is hands down my favorite fully evolved starter to date, and Typhlosion is the only fully evolved fire starter I can stand.
All of the underlined are contextual indicators of opinion and personal preference.
If you want to argue graphical and conceptual design and the ability to appeal to more people, go ahead.
But I don't. I was arguing about their graphical and conceptual design and the ability to appeal to me. :D
EDIT: Also, just as a fin fact for the day, did you know the term "brontosaurus" is obsolete? It's a misclassification generally used to reference Apatosaurus or Sauropods in general...
I never suggested otherwise. :P
The post to which I was responding did the same thing.
Well if you'll go back to the original post in which I voice said opinion, you will find that what I said was:
I think Gold/Silver had the best starters. Meganium is hands down my favorite fully evolved starter to date, and Typhlosion is the only fully evolved fire starter I can stand.
All of the underlined are contextual indicators of opinion and personal preference.
But I don't. I was arguing about their graphical and conceptual design and the ability to appeal to me. :D
Fair enough. I still think that Meganium is th eworst because he contributes so little to the metagame, though.
EDIT: Also, just as a fin fact for the day, did you know the term "brontosaurus" is obsolete? It's a misclassification generally used to reference Apatosaurus or Sauropods in general...
lol, really? I haven't payed much attention to dinosaurs since I was five, so I guess I missed that.
Max revive.
So, what do you think about Heartgold and Soulsilver?
I'm totally getting Soul Silver; Silver Version was my first game, and I LOVED it! I can only hope they include the bank thing like last time, because, by the end of the game, I essentially had UNLIMITED COSMIC MONIES!!!!
Also, since your Rival introduces himself as "???" (so you can name him yourself, later), I, being a young, silly child, thought his name actually WAS "???," and, when the police officer asked me, I wasn't going to LIE and call him something else!
So, yeah. For about three years, I played that game. I realized my mistake a couple months after I first started. D'oh!
I got them both pre-ordered in full for my birthday.
What do you think about the new version of the Pikachu pedometers? Where you can level any Pokèmon up in it, as well as getting rare items?
I will pull a few all nighters for Heart Gold
I won't. See, if I arrange my classes and schedule correctly, I can get Wenesday to Saturday off during that week, so I can, how you say, play every day of that week...
My hat off to the world's geatest Poke'mon trainer! ;P
(and they teast really good with the right spices)
I don't think that I'll get the Soul/Heart games, but I'm still trying to find a Pkm Platinum game, It's almost always sold out in stores everywhere I go. I may have too resort too purchasing online from Amazon if this horrible trend keeps up. I want me pokemon's! 
Said pokémon is capable of beng any type? Again, I'll take it.
Said pokémon being one of the last few legendaries I need to complete my 'dex?
GIVE ME IT!
In short, I took my copy of Diamond and my copy of Platinum over and got two.
If anyone has a Manaphy, Celebi, or Darkrai, I'm more than willing to trade...
However being a lv 100, he cannot be EV trained...
Well, you can get yourself a level 1 Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina in HG/SS by trading it, so... Fair trade off, eh?
I'm a necromancer, we don't care.
I just got my Garchomp to lv. 100, hilarity ensues
Sorry...
Anyway...I got my Tyranitar EV trained so now its time to roflstomp Battle Tower with my team
T-Tar @ Expert Belt
Adamant
Sandstream
252 Atk/190 Spd/80 HP
-Crunch
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Thunder Fang
Chomp @ Yache Berry
Adamant
Sand Veil
255 Atk/255 Spd
-Fire Fang
-Earthquake
-Dragon Claw
-Swords Dance
Porygon-Z @ Wise Glasses
Modest
Adaptability
252 SpAtk/ 252 Spd/ 6 HP
-Tri-Attack
-Thunder Bolt
-Ice Beam
-Nasty Plot
Pikachu colored Pichu event. Discuss.
If you trade that one to HG/SS, you can get another shiny Pichu in Ilex Forest in an in game event.
100 Metagross @ Leftovers
Adamant
Clear Body
152 HP / 252 Attk /104 Spd
-Meteor Mash
-Zen Headbutt
-Hammer Arm
-Bullet Punch
100 Alakazam @ Choice Specs
Modest
Synchronize
255 Sp.Attk / 255 Spd
-Psychic
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast
-Recover
78 Dragonite @ Life Orb
Adamant
Inner Focus
255 Attk / 255 Spd
-Fire Punch
-Aqua Tail
-Wing Attack
-Outrage
i've got a salamence i just finished raising to 100 yesterday, a 53 Sharpedo i was testing my breeding with and he came out surprisingly well. the results of my tests are showing in my dragonite
so i'm planning on bringing that sharpedo up to 100 and an underachieving garchomp that needs to be re-bred and retrained for better combat potency. i've been thinking aboiut magnezone though...i would like to see earthquake on my dragonite & metagross, but alas... not enough TMs to go around... so it's off to go grind BP and get me a few TM26... sigh.
The item that comes with SS and HG, the Pokewalker. Discuss.
Tell you what, let's create a group here for Pokemon fans...
Where we can trade friend codes, share stats, compare parties, discuss events (like the recent Jirachi one, which caught me by surprise)... All that.
Well?