Preseason blues...

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#1

Robin_Hoodlum

Jul 30, 2010 18:35:45
Leftwich starting for the Steelers...
Pac-Man Jones and TO going to Cincy...
Baltimore is.... well, Baltimore...


*sigh*
I think I'm in for a long, disappointing season...
#2

cheeze21084

Jul 30, 2010 23:31:00
Foxworth is out for the year before TC starts and we MIGHT have Webb back before week 6. Us Ravens fans are skeptical of our defense this year. I couldn't quite tell if you are a Browns or Steelers fan from your post.
#3

Robin_Hoodlum

Jul 31, 2010 7:41:40
Browns fan?!?
Don't you ever, EVER call me that again... EVER!!!!



I am a Steelers fan... always have been... even when they suck.
#4

zombie_babies

Aug 02, 2010 9:39:55
I haven't been reading much about the footballs lately.  Bein' from Cleveland kinda makes ya less interested in it.  Once stuff starts up, I'll be into it, though.  Hell, we may win 3 games this year. 
#5

scypio

Aug 02, 2010 9:51:44
Yeah, that AFC North looks like a monster division, lots of good teams well except for the Browns =P

I'm starting to get excited. I'm expecting the Falcons to have a good year and hopefully make the playoffs. I think Turner will have a better year and hopefully Matty Ice can stay healthy. And they made additions to their defense, so hopefully it'll at least be non-terrible. Although they have to play the before mention killer AFC North. But luckily they play Pittsburg week 1 or something, so no Ben.

My fantasy league also just started talks and getting ready, so I'm going to have to research and pay attention again. This will be our first year with keepers so that's exciting.
#6

zombie_babies

Aug 02, 2010 10:29:06
I think Atlanta's gonna be my team.  Always liked 'em.  And Green Bay.  I'll still root for the Browns, of course, but it'd be nice to also root for a team that can win.  ;)  As long as the Falcons stay healthy, they should be ok.  Steelers?  Yeah, on a downswing, IMO.
#7

scypio

Aug 02, 2010 12:08:31
Excellent.

And Green Bay is a very likable team. A-Rod is pretty elite and their defense (even though it got torched by Arizona) was excellent. I don't really know if they addressed their O-line issues. And their division looks like it might be decent. But I do have a positive opinion of them.

My primary "other" team is the Chargers and I don't know what I think. V-Jax is holding out and suspended plus they have no RB (and possibly a bad line). But Phillip Rivers is kind of awesome so hopefully they'll do well. And yeah, their division is one of the worst in the NFL so there's always that.
#8

zombie_babies

Aug 02, 2010 12:10:33
Yeah, the Chargers always have the rest of thei division to help 'em out.  Heh.  Rivers is good, too.  Really good, actually.  I'm not sure about GB's O-line, either.  All I know is that it needed some pretty serious help.  Hope they got some. 
#9

Cpt_Micha

Aug 02, 2010 16:41:05
I don't have the blues. We got rid of The Shake (sorry Zb!)
#10

zombie_babies

Aug 03, 2010 9:26:05
Heh.  As long as he and Wallace can stay alive long enough for Colt to egt ready to play, we'll be ok with the Shake.  He ain't here to win, he's here to help Colt figure out how and to keep him undamaged while the team rebuilds.  I think he can possibly manage that. 
#11

scypio

Aug 03, 2010 10:31:23
Supposed Brett Favre said he wasn't going back to the Vikings. Its not like he hasn't "retired" and come back, but this late into the summer is new. But who knows with him.
#12

zombie_babies

Aug 03, 2010 11:53:36
He did?  Last I heard he just hadn't reported yet.  Still testin' the ankle.  I haven't been keepin' up with football much lately, though.
#13

scypio

Aug 03, 2010 12:02:00
Apparently knee bad, cannot football. But it'd be no surprise if he returns during the season or next year. Its Brett Favre, you can never trust what he says.
#14

zombie_babies

Aug 03, 2010 12:30:56
So he went from bad arm to bad ankle to bad knee?  Man, time to hang it up.  If you detonate one part of your body rehabbing another, your body is done done.  ;)  I was kinda hopin' he'd get that 20th season, though.
#15

scypio

Aug 03, 2010 12:44:02
I'm just so done with Favre. He should have either retired with the Packers or tell them that he was going to play. He definately shouldn't have pretended to retire from the Jets. And I just don't like the Vikings.

But back in the day, I did like him.
#16

zombie_babies

Aug 03, 2010 15:37:45
Yeah, it's easy to respect his career.  Not so easy to respect the man.  Sad cuz it used to be easy to do both.
#17

Cpt_Micha

Aug 03, 2010 15:41:09
Favre is still awesome.

Though, I take when he says "I'm done" with a grain of salt.

That man doesn't know when to stop.

I figure he'll probably die on the field at 74.
#18

scypio

Aug 03, 2010 15:48:16
Yeah, it's easy to respect his career.  Not so easy to respect the man.  Sad cuz it used to be easy to do both.

The part that's hard is I consider some of the stuff part of the career. Dealing with the football team is part of the career. I'd have less of an issue if he beat up whores or something. Then I can separate the person from the career (like most football players).

Favre is still awesome.

Though, I take when he says "I'm done" with a grain of salt.

That man doesn't know when to stop.

I figure he'll probably die on the field at 74.

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he comes back in Week 4 or even next year if his knee feels better.
#19

Cpt_Micha

Aug 03, 2010 15:52:01
Yeah taking a year off would be very bad though.

Look at Lance Armstrong. Despite all that training he did (and he trained alot harder than all of his team mates) it's still not being on the Toure every year.

#20

zombie_babies

Aug 03, 2010 16:09:36
The part that's hard is I consider some of the stuff part of the career. Dealing with the football team is part of the career. I'd have less of an issue if he beat up whores or something. Then I can separate the person from the career (like most football players).



Good point, good point. 
#21

zombie_babies

Aug 04, 2010 13:38:30
Not so fast with the retirement stuff.  Favre says he's still undecided.  The reports he retired were inaccurate.  Let the drama begin (again)!

Man, this guy makes LeBron James' ego look normal.
#22

scypio

Aug 04, 2010 13:44:43
He should have a one hour special on ESPN to announce if he's coming back or not. But the sad part is that even after the special, people would speculate if he'll change his mind.
#23

Idolis

Aug 04, 2010 13:46:44
Not so fast with the retirement stuff.  Favre says he's still undecided.  The reports he retired were inaccurate.  Let the drama begin (again)!

Man, this guy makes LeBron James' ego look normal.



I knew it was all hype. He says he never sent the message and I believe him. He'll be back and my Vikes are gonna win it all. Whoo Hoo!!!

Seriously though, if he did send the text message I don't understand it unless he was trying for extra money but then why would he send the message to teammates instead of management? The Vikings have proven that they're willing to pay him whatever he wants. It just doesn't make sense and seems to me that some reporter got their wires crossed and now Brett is catching the flak for something that he probably never said.
#24

zombie_babies

Aug 04, 2010 14:14:11
I dunno.  The reports I saw said that the retirement stuff came from texts he sent to teammates saying he was retiring.  Unless someone took his phone and sent the stuff pretending to be him, he sent it and is now backtracking.  Maybe his wife finally got tired of the crap and sent 'em.  Heh.

All I knows is that ol' Brett is makin' me more and more inclined to become a Heat fan.  LeBron ain't so bad after all. 

More seriously, it kinda sucks to have 3 of my favorite athletes ever turn into ragin' d-bags.  Brett, Vick and LBJ.  What a bunch of idiots. 
#25

Idolis

Aug 04, 2010 14:19:41
I dunno.  The reports I saw said that the retirement stuff came from texts he sent to teammates saying he was retiring.  Unless someone took his phone and sent the stuff pretending to be him, he sent it and is now backtracking.  Maybe his wife finally got tired of the crap and sent 'em.  Heh.

All I knows is that ol' Brett is makin' me more and more inclined to become a Heat fan.  LeBron ain't so bad after all. 

More seriously, it kinda sucks to have 3 of my favorite athletes ever turn into ragin' d-bags.  Brett, Vick and LBJ.  What a bunch of idiots. 



Here's how I think it went down.

Teammate Texts: Hey Brett how's the ankle?

Brett: It still hurts.

Reporter asks teammate: Have you heard from Brett?

Teammate: Yeah, he says his ankle still hurts.

Reporter tells everyone: Brett's ankle still hurts therefore he won't play because he isn't healthy.
#26

zombie_babies

Aug 04, 2010 14:38:45
What I've seen about it so far is this:

Favre has started to contact teammates and Vikings officials to say he will not return for a 20th NFL season, tight end Visanthe Shiancoe said on Tuesday evening.

"He told a couple guys on our team he's going to retire," Shiancoe said after practice. "He hasn't told me yet. I'm going to check my phone right now, but it hasn't been said publicly yet so I don't know what to believe."



So it seems like it's all hearsay anyway.  Likely some idiot's idea of a joke or, as you suggest, a misinterpretation.  Unless the 'couple of guys' step forward and say what exactly it was they were texted, I doubt we'll ever know.  In any event, I'd never put it past ol' Brett to do something that was exactly this.

EDIT: And none of that matters.  The fact is, we're still in the 'will he or won't he' situation Favre loves to keep everyone in.  Lrn2deeseyedn00bin5. 
#27

Cpt_Micha

Aug 04, 2010 16:00:55
hm.

If it still hurts after all this time?

Ouch.

We'll see guys.  If the text was indeed real. I dunno.

The thing with Favre vs LBJ, is I think Favre was legitamately through with football when he announces retirement. Or thinks he is. He stops and thinks about how old he is. How long he's done it. And he thinks "I should hang it up"

And then he thinks "but what else am I going to do?"

Favre has spent a long long time in football.  What else -could- he do?

I think he wants to retire but he's frankly not sure what else he could do to  busy himself, and ironically keep himself in good shape with. That's my Favre theory anyway.
#28

zombie_babies

Aug 05, 2010 11:58:33
More Favre fun.  That's all I'm gonna say for now. 
#29

Idolis

Aug 05, 2010 12:00:20
I was close when I speculated how it went down.

Visanthe Shianco own words at :40.

Edit:
Damn it. The link isn't working. Anyway, on that page I think the third one down on the left is the interview with Shiancoe and others.

Basically, Visanthe said Brett told him his ankle still hurts so Visanthe assumed that meant Brett was retiring and we all know what assuming does.

Pretty cool article ZB. I didn't read the whole thing yet but still good find.
#30

scypio

Aug 05, 2010 12:01:45
Only read the beginning, but she's kind of hot.

In other news, I'll probably miss the first week of the season again.
#31

Robin_Hoodlum

Aug 05, 2010 12:07:37
Ahhh...
Seems Ben has been being good... so good that the NFL Commisioner lowered his suspension from 6 games to 4 games.
And it seems that Leftwich is starting... as is Mendenhall.

I dunno... it seems to at least be an interesting season.

I can hardly wait!
#32

scypio

Aug 05, 2010 12:10:00
What do you think of Mendenhall? Do you think he'll be able to reestablish the Steelers running attack?

I primarily ask because I have him on my fantasy team (from last year) and I'm not sure if I want to use a 1 year or 2 year option to keep him. I'm going to keep him for this year, but I could try to keep him for another year (at the cost of Vincent Jackson).
#33

zombie_babies

Aug 05, 2010 12:17:36

The Favre article has some issues.  Namely, the chick the guy says told him about it has not come forward herself to confirm it nor has she given permission to even release the story - let alone the pics and messages.  So it could be a ton of crap.  In any event, I posted it cuz it's funny whether or not it's true.  And that chick is pretty hawt. 

It was on Deadspin originally, too, so that may mean it's ok, right?  Don't know all that much about Deadspin but I thought it was pretty reliable.  The dood claims that the chick is supposed to meet with him about releasing all of it.  If this is true, it'll be an issue for Favre - and the Vikings.  Remember, they're trying to clean up their image from the Love Boat thing still.  Heh.  But yeah, funny no matter what.
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I like Mendenhall.  He looked good until his shoulder got exploderated.  Nice to see a Big 10 back doin' well.  Thing is, we didn't see a lot of him so who knows what he's really like.  And the Steelers O line has been something less than stellar over the past few years so that won't be any help.

#34

Idolis

Aug 05, 2010 12:18:12
More Favre fun.  That's all I'm gonna say for now. 



Like I said, it was a good find and all but it seems all made up to me. "Don't tell anyone!" but I'll tell you. Anyway, she's a ****, he's a football hero. I think I'll side with him.

#35

zombie_babies

Aug 05, 2010 12:20:41
Like I said, it was a good find and all but it seems all made up to me. "Don't tell anyone!" but I'll tell you. Anyway, she's a ****, he's a football hero. I think I'll side with him.



Oh yeah, it's got issues.  It may be true but you certainly can't take it as so now.  I mean, she isn't even the one that came out with it.  Some guy said she said he ... you get it.  I don't know if she's a **** or not, but I do know that Favre is a binge drinkin', pill poppin' **** of a man himself.  At least he used to be. 
#36

Idolis

Aug 05, 2010 12:23:01
Like I said, it was a good find and all but it seems all made up to me. "Don't tell anyone!" but I'll tell you. Anyway, she's a ****, he's a football hero. I think I'll side with him.



Oh yeah, it's got issues.  It may be true but you certainly can't take it as so now.  I mean, she isn't even the one that came out with it.  Some guy said she said he ... you get it.  I don't know if she's a **** or not, but I do know that Favre is a binge drinkin', pill poppin' **** of a man himself.  At least he used to be. 



True dat. LOL
#37

scypio

Aug 05, 2010 12:24:29
I like Mendenhall.  He looked good until his shoulder got exploderated.  Nice to see a Big 10 back doin' well.  Thing is, we didn't see a lot of him so who knows what he's really like.  And the Steelers O line has been something less than stellar over the past few years so that won't be any help.

Yeah, the Steeler's O-line plus his injury concerns is what I'm iffy about. But it does seem like he has the potential to become a top notch rusher.

But I'll probably be safe and franchise Vincent Jackson even though he's holding out...and suspended.
#38

zombie_babies

Aug 05, 2010 12:25:01
Heh.  Don't get me wrong, I ain't hatin'.  If I was a friggin' walkin' legend, I'd be drinkin', poppin' and bangin', too.  Like Tiger.  How can you be mad at a young billionaire wantin' some side ****y?  I mean, his only mistake was gettin' married in the first place! 
#39

Idolis

Aug 05, 2010 12:35:06
I'm not a rabid Favre fan but at least this go 'round I think the retirement thing was someone jumping the gun. My question now is how Brett and Visanthe are going to mesh on the field. Last year, Visanthe was Brett's secret weapon. When the opposition decided to double team Harvin the other guy (can't think of his name but I want to say Rice but that doesn't sound right) Brett would dump it off to Shiancoe for a needed first down. I just don't know if Brett is going to blame him for the media fiasco.
#40

scypio

Aug 05, 2010 12:40:08

Percy Harvin and Sydney Rice are their wide recievers. They both basically exploded on the scene from nowhere (or they had great rookie years).

And yeah, I never thought sex scandals are a big deal. They're young, rich, famous, and travel the country. Its not a good recipe for loyality. Tiger Woods was just done to a comical extent.

#41

Idolis

Aug 05, 2010 12:46:17
Thanks Scyp, I don't know why my brain froze up on the name like that but whenever I think Rice I think Jerry and so it didn't sound right.
#42

zombie_babies

Aug 05, 2010 12:48:10
With Favre now it's more of just appreciating his talent for the game.  Everything else I just let go.  I mean, the drama does annoy me - and he is still all sorts of for drama even though this retirement thing wasn't on him.  If he wasn't, he'd make a damned decision.  But yeah, annoying drama aside, he hasn't shot anyone, hasn't stolen anything, didn't **** anybody, etc, etc so I just don't care about the stuff.  Even if the new thing is true, the chick seems more than cool with it so I just don't care.  Watch the man play and be wow-ed and inspired.  He's old and is still better than any QB most teams have ever seen.

As far as Favre and Shiancoe goes, if Brett is pissed I don't see them hookin' up much.  He's a spiteful bastard (which is why he's wearing purple).  I don't think that'll be the case, though.  This whole thing was mostly media created anyway so why be mad about it?
#43

Robin_Hoodlum

Aug 05, 2010 14:21:42
Mendenhall could be great...
If he stays healthy and has a good O-line...

Both of which seem in doubt this season...
#44

scypio

Aug 19, 2010 8:12:29
As an update to the Favre situation. He's coming back, but say this will be his last season... Seriously, why even say that?
#45

idhriniel

Aug 19, 2010 8:17:04
haha we all know favres gonna keep coming back. lets just ignore him. better keep an eye on brees. considering he may fall vic to the madden curse...
#46

scypio

Aug 19, 2010 8:22:02
better keep an eye on brees. considering he may fall vic to the madden curse...

Hopefully. He should break his arm, leg, neck, or some important body part required to play football. (Man, and I used to like Drew Brees when he was on the Chargers.)

You got a team?
#47

zombie_babies

Aug 19, 2010 8:25:59

Yep, Favrinator is back for his 20th season.  He'll turn 41 part way though it and, if he starts the first 15 games, he'll hit 300 consecutive (reg season).  I think after hitting those two (really, three) notable numbers, he'll be done.  Then again, if he plays like he did last year and they come up short again (or if they win it all ), he'll at least do some waffling.  All that said, they play the Saints early in the season and there's a chance he'll get his ass whooped badly again - this time right out of the gate.  So all could be for nothing.


Side note: The Browns beat the Packers in a preseason game!  I guess that means we're gonna go at least 9-7!    Preseason is soooooo lamesers.

#48

idhriniel

Aug 19, 2010 8:28:09
Of course I'm pullin' for the Saints. I got roots down there! Of course, I used to say that about the Patriots... At least my grandma got to live to see her team finally win a Super Bowl.
#49

scypio

Aug 19, 2010 8:28:35
Word, I'm itching for some football and I can't even try to care about preseason.

How do you think the Browns will be? No Rothlesburger will help for a little (if you play them early), but that's a pretty tough division.
#50

scypio

Aug 19, 2010 8:30:09
Of course I'm pullin' for the Saints. I got roots down there! Of course, I used to say that about the Patriots... At least my grandma got to live to see her team finally win a Super Bowl.

The Saints are probably one of my most hated teams in all of sports. Teams from Boston also fall into that mix. Don't you love sports and the hatred it builds? =P
#51

idhriniel

Aug 19, 2010 8:32:18
Why do you hate the Saints? Seriously. They ain't done nothin' to you. Except beat you in football.
#52

zombie_babies

Aug 19, 2010 8:39:10
Word, I'm itching for some football and I can't even try to care about preseason.

How do you think the Browns will be? No Rothlesburger will help for a little (if you play them early), but that's a pretty tough division.



Terrible.  They're still rebuilding, though, so it's ok.  I do think they'll be a little better, but they've got a lot of new pieces to try and mesh together.  The best I think Browns fans can hope for is that they'll be ok enough to play spoiler late in the season.  A .500 team at the very, very, impossible to imagine best, I think.  So yeah, less than 8 wins.

I honestly haven't read very much about football - aside from college - at all this year.  It's hard to get motivated for a terrible team.  I also have wached zero games this year.  Once the season starts, though, I'll be into it again.  Too bad I won't get to see Ohio State play much (Saturdays in the fall are busy).  They've got a shot at the whole deal this year.  'Course that's easy to say before they've even played a game.  After the Miami game, though, it should be fairly obvious how the season should go.  But yeah, I don't know a whole lot about the NFL this year.  Aside from Favre and TO, I really haven't read any news.

Oh, Michigan sucks, Boston sucks, LA sucks and New York sucks. 
#53

scypio

Aug 19, 2010 8:43:55
Well, being the same division as the Falcons probably goes into the "beat you in football" category.

But additionally, I hate how they're such a feel good story, how they're "everyone's second favorite team", how stupid their fans are, the "Who dat" nation, the previous hatred of Reggie Bush, and I'm sure there's more stuff. Which is kind of a shame since I like both Drew Brees and Shaun Peyton.

But yeah, the Saints are really annoying. I'm starting to dislike Reggie Wayne because he was a key reason of why the Saints won their stupid Superbowl. Who else... Hank Basket... what a d-bag loser...
#54

zombie_babies

Aug 19, 2010 8:46:06
Re: Who dat?

I think the Bengals fans have created a more douche chill inspiring copy: Who dey? or whatever it is.  People in Cincinnatti don't talk like that.  They never talked like that.  What the ****.
#55

idhriniel

Aug 19, 2010 8:50:14
Who dat say dey gunna beat dem Saints?
#56

zombie_babies

Aug 19, 2010 8:53:13
Who dat say dey gunna beat dem Saints?



Yep, still annoyingly stupid.  Don't get me wrong, I rooted for those idiots simply because of my totally inexplicable hatred for Payton Manning, but I never once have and never will say that idiotic slogan.
#57

idhriniel

Aug 19, 2010 8:54:30
......

By the way, the faint of heart shouldn't look up "zombie babies" on google images. Although that is completely irrelevant to the current topic.
#58

scypio

Aug 19, 2010 9:02:20
Yep, still annoyingly stupid.  Don't get me wrong, I rooted for those idiots simply because of my totally inexplicable hatred for Payton Manning, but I never once have and never will say that idiotic slogan.

That is pretty inexplicable.

By the way, the faint of heart shouldn't look up "zombie babies" on google images. Although that is completely irrelevant to the current topic.

Are you trying to stalk him or something?
#59

zombie_babies

Aug 19, 2010 9:05:44
Yeah, he just rubs me the wrong way.  Manning seems like a real dick or something.  I dunno, I just wanna see him lose.  I think if Gonzales wasn't hurt, I'd have possibly rooted for the Colts.  But he was out and I just can't get fired up about a guy named Garcon.  Sorry. 

I haven't been stalked in a long, long time.  Too long, really. 
#60

idhriniel

Aug 19, 2010 9:06:48
@ Scyp: I was not stalking the Prophet. I was just bored and started googling the first things that came to mind.

EDIT: By the way, if you do an image search under scypio (don't let it do the auto search of scipio)...there's some funky stuff.
#61

zombie_babies

Aug 19, 2010 9:09:24
Sounds like a classic case of stalking to me.  I'm gonna go ahead and reset my Stalk Counter.

Should we start a new football thread once the season starts?  This'n is good, but it's got Preseason in the title.  The old one was fine until Idolis and Micha went and had that silly fight so I think it should be left dead.  Decisions decisions ...
#62

idhriniel

Aug 19, 2010 9:11:30
What happened between Idolis and Cap'n? Hehe...
#63

zombie_babies

Aug 19, 2010 9:12:21
Read the thread.  Something about what is and isn't a sport with a whole lotta name callin' an' baseball bashin'.
#64

idhriniel

Aug 19, 2010 9:14:23
Ohh. Yeah, um...I think I'll leave it be. :hide:
#65

scypio

Aug 19, 2010 9:28:38
But he was out and I just can't get fired up about a guy named Garcon.  Sorry. 

Not a fan of Pierre? Its like every time I say his name I have to give a dirty French "huh huh" or something.

But for the stalking, I guess its a good change to have little girls stalk us or something.

And I'd vote for a new thread since I'm not normally a fan of extremely long threads except the "What do you want to talk about" one.
#66

zombie_babies

Aug 19, 2010 9:40:55
He's good an' all, but his name sucks.  I'm not a fan of Gonzales as a name really either, but he played for the Buckeyes so it's fun to root for him. 

These days the only broads checkin' me out ever are too young to be broads.  Kinda sad, really.  And uncomfortable.

Ok we'll start a new thread for the actual season.  I think that's best.  It's a pretty popular discussion thingy when football's happenin', too.
#67

zombie_babies

Aug 19, 2010 10:27:48
Nope.  I'm not havin' this.  Unless you're a Browns fan, you are not allowed to complain about your QB situation.  We brought in Shakey Jake (thanks, Cap) to fix our issues.  So chew on that a while and come talk. 
#68

idhriniel

Aug 19, 2010 10:28:52
Wait, were we talking about Eli getting pegged in the face? Ouch...
#69

scypio

Aug 19, 2010 11:48:59

While I don't think Alex Smith is THAT bad, the sheer thought that you could've selected Aaron Rodgers is probably enough to make 49ers fans cry themselves to sleep.

I used to be pretty down on Eli, but I'm starting to come around. He's pretty okay.

#70

zombie_babies

Aug 19, 2010 11:51:50
Yeah, Eli seems more like an unintentional tool than a dick so I suppose that's better.  But he does play in New York so there's that huge minus.    Skill wise?  He's improved.  That's about all ya can say I think.
#71

zombie_babies

Aug 19, 2010 14:42:04
Interesting Vikes news.  If it's all true, they may be in for a long season.  Aside from all the coach hate, Harvin was hospitalized today with migraine issues severe enough to cause him to collapse on field.
#72

scypio

Aug 20, 2010 9:42:59
Man, what's up with all the Peyton Manning hate? I thought most people liked him. How can you not? He makes fun of retarded children.

And I shouldn't be happy when someone collapses on the field, but whatever it takes to make a team which is better than mine worse...
#73

zombie_babies

Aug 20, 2010 10:22:58
He just seems like a dick.  And I hate the way he runs around at the line screaming like an idiot.  'Look at me!  Look at me!  I'm an NFL QB!  I'm better than my brother!  I'm better than my dad!'  Get over yourself, dood.  Oh, and he plays for a cheater.  Dirty Colts amping crowd noise.  Wouldn't have to if you didn't have a dick for QB cuz then your fans may actually cheer. 

Being happy about an injury to an opposing team's player is sick, but natural.  I still remember sittign in a bar watching the '02 Nat Championship.  When McGahee got his knee obliterated, we all cheered.  Sad.  I'm glad he's doing ok in the NFL now.  Too bad he plays for the Ravens ... heh.
#74

Idolis

Aug 22, 2010 14:57:29
Harvin's migraines are a problem but he's being checked out by doctors really thoroughly. The concern is he's been seeing doctors for a really long time and they can't figure out why he is having them.

Favre coming back is great for the team. He and Childress don't get along (that was evident last year when Favre threw a couple of touchdowns in two seperate games that were supposed to be running plays). Someone said the real problem is that Favre has been playing in that system for so long that he knows it better than Childress and its a case of too many chefs in the kitchen.



On a side note, I have apologized to Cap for my part in the argument in the last thread but I never apologized to those who read it. So I'm doing it now...

I'm very sorry ya'll. It was mainly my fault and I accept responsibility for the loss of that thread. A new thread is definately okay in my book.
#75

scypio

Aug 23, 2010 7:06:04
There a play clock that you can see if he delays the game or not. And as long as they "set" before the snap, you can move around foolishly before a snap. Lots of offenses do formation changes and motion before a snap.

But after reading what people said about Peyton I ask the wife what she thought of him (since most people I know like him). She said she has a negative opinion based solely on his commercials with Justin Timberlake. So I guess it must be common to dislike him.

For Favre, I heard that he said he wouldn't have come back if those three players did come down and personally ask him to return. Does anyone actually believe that?
#76

Cpt_Micha

Aug 23, 2010 8:25:25
He might not have. I don't think I'd ever seen him quite so heartbroken at the end of a game.

He was also pretty damn hurt at the end of that game. Hurt enough that you wouldn't forget that level of pain quickly. (let alone stop feeling it)

Peyton: I dunno he just seems kinda slow. Like an idiot savant. He can still throw though. I don't really have an opinion of him otherwise though.
#77

scypio

Aug 23, 2010 8:35:02
He had surgery and he was practicing with the local high school team. I guess I just can't give him the benefit of the doubt after 3 (?) retirements.

And yeah, Peyton does sound quite slow but that's probably 'cuz he's from the South. And he does look kind of like he's retarded since his forehead is kind of massive. And I think I probably developed such a positive opinion of Peyton since the Colts and the Patriots were rivals.
#78

Cpt_Micha

Aug 23, 2010 8:41:03
Even with surgery though there's the memory of the pain. and surgery doesn't 100 percent fix you.

I do think that he deliberately did not say one way or another this time around, to avoid the circus (and then that alleged "text message" popped up.. proving that the media will make controversy when there isn't any). That way when he did make his decision people would back off of it.

Practicing with a local highschool, I don't think that really counts as a "yeah I'm coming back". That would be like him flying to Cleveland or Detroit and practicing with them for a weekend. :-p

Though to be fair to Highschools everywhere they aren't going to be as bad as Cleveland is going to be this year, now that they have The Shake, with what is more or less a High School level team. (and The Shake imo isn't even HS QB material at this point)
#79

zombie_babies

Aug 23, 2010 8:56:21
Favre was back as long as he could jog.  He knew it, the team knew it, everyone knew it.  He came so close last year and he's damned close to a couple of milestones, too.  Plus the Vikes got totally jobbed in the Championship game.  I don't think he was so bad this time to be honest.  Unless he leaked the 'text' crap himself, that is.  Everyone also knew he was gonna bail on the workouts so he wasn't comin' back 'til about now anyway.  Oh well.  Still respect his game.  He's a friggin' legend.
#80

zombie_babies

Aug 26, 2010 14:36:46
Cool story.

Whatever the kid chooses, I wish him the best.  It's pretty unique to get the chance to choose between two dreams.  Then again, when you devote your life to achieving them, I suppose it all makes sense.
#82

zombie_babies

Aug 05, 2010 12:48:10
With Favre now it's more of just appreciating his talent for the game.  Everything else I just let go.  I mean, the drama does annoy me - and he is still all sorts of for drama even though this retirement thing wasn't on him.  If he wasn't, he'd make a damned decision.  But yeah, annoying drama aside, he hasn't shot anyone, hasn't stolen anything, didn't **** anybody, etc, etc so I just don't care about the stuff.  Even if the new thing is true, the chick seems more than cool with it so I just don't care.  Watch the man play and be wow-ed and inspired.  He's old and is still better than any QB most teams have ever seen.

As far as Favre and Shiancoe goes, if Brett is pissed I don't see them hookin' up much.  He's a spiteful bastard (which is why he's wearing purple).  I don't think that'll be the case, though.  This whole thing was mostly media created anyway so why be mad about it?
#83

Robin_Hoodlum

Aug 05, 2010 14:21:42
Mendenhall could be great...
If he stays healthy and has a good O-line...

Both of which seem in doubt this season...
#84

scypio

Aug 19, 2010 8:12:29
As an update to the Favre situation. He's coming back, but say this will be his last season... Seriously, why even say that?
#85

idhriniel

Aug 19, 2010 8:17:04
haha we all know favres gonna keep coming back. lets just ignore him. better keep an eye on brees. considering he may fall vic to the madden curse...
#86

scypio

Aug 19, 2010 8:22:02
better keep an eye on brees. considering he may fall vic to the madden curse...

Hopefully. He should break his arm, leg, neck, or some important body part required to play football. (Man, and I used to like Drew Brees when he was on the Chargers.)

You got a team?
#87

zombie_babies

Aug 19, 2010 8:25:59

Yep, Favrinator is back for his 20th season.  He'll turn 41 part way though it and, if he starts the first 15 games, he'll hit 300 consecutive (reg season).  I think after hitting those two (really, three) notable numbers, he'll be done.  Then again, if he plays like he did last year and they come up short again (or if they win it all ), he'll at least do some waffling.  All that said, they play the Saints early in the season and there's a chance he'll get his ass whooped badly again - this time right out of the gate.  So all could be for nothing.


Side note: The Browns beat the Packers in a preseason game!  I guess that means we're gonna go at least 9-7!    Preseason is soooooo lamesers.

#88

idhriniel

Aug 19, 2010 8:28:09
Of course I'm pullin' for the Saints. I got roots down there! Of course, I used to say that about the Patriots... At least my grandma got to live to see her team finally win a Super Bowl.
#89

scypio

Aug 19, 2010 8:28:35
Word, I'm itching for some football and I can't even try to care about preseason.

How do you think the Browns will be? No Rothlesburger will help for a little (if you play them early), but that's a pretty tough division.
#90

scypio

Aug 19, 2010 8:30:09
Of course I'm pullin' for the Saints. I got roots down there! Of course, I used to say that about the Patriots... At least my grandma got to live to see her team finally win a Super Bowl.

The Saints are probably one of my most hated teams in all of sports. Teams from Boston also fall into that mix. Don't you love sports and the hatred it builds? =P
#91

idhriniel

Aug 19, 2010 8:32:18
Why do you hate the Saints? Seriously. They ain't done nothin' to you. Except beat you in football.
#92

zombie_babies

Aug 19, 2010 8:39:10
Word, I'm itching for some football and I can't even try to care about preseason.

How do you think the Browns will be? No Rothlesburger will help for a little (if you play them early), but that's a pretty tough division.



Terrible.  They're still rebuilding, though, so it's ok.  I do think they'll be a little better, but they've got a lot of new pieces to try and mesh together.  The best I think Browns fans can hope for is that they'll be ok enough to play spoiler late in the season.  A .500 team at the very, very, impossible to imagine best, I think.  So yeah, less than 8 wins.

I honestly haven't read very much about football - aside from college - at all this year.  It's hard to get motivated for a terrible team.  I also have wached zero games this year.  Once the season starts, though, I'll be into it again.  Too bad I won't get to see Ohio State play much (Saturdays in the fall are busy).  They've got a shot at the whole deal this year.  'Course that's easy to say before they've even played a game.  After the Miami game, though, it should be fairly obvious how the season should go.  But yeah, I don't know a whole lot about the NFL this year.  Aside from Favre and TO, I really haven't read any news.

Oh, Michigan sucks, Boston sucks, LA sucks and New York sucks. 
#93

scypio

Aug 19, 2010 8:43:55
Well, being the same division as the Falcons probably goes into the "beat you in football" category.

But additionally, I hate how they're such a feel good story, how they're "everyone's second favorite team", how stupid their fans are, the "Who dat" nation, the previous hatred of Reggie Bush, and I'm sure there's more stuff. Which is kind of a shame since I like both Drew Brees and Shaun Peyton.

But yeah, the Saints are really annoying. I'm starting to dislike Reggie Wayne because he was a key reason of why the Saints won their stupid Superbowl. Who else... Hank Basket... what a d-bag loser...
#94

zombie_babies

Aug 19, 2010 8:46:06
Re: Who dat?

I think the Bengals fans have created a more douche chill inspiring copy: Who dey? or whatever it is.  People in Cincinnatti don't talk like that.  They never talked like that.  What the ****.
#95

idhriniel

Aug 19, 2010 8:50:14
Who dat say dey gunna beat dem Saints?
#96

zombie_babies

Aug 19, 2010 8:53:13
Who dat say dey gunna beat dem Saints?



Yep, still annoyingly stupid.  Don't get me wrong, I rooted for those idiots simply because of my totally inexplicable hatred for Payton Manning, but I never once have and never will say that idiotic slogan.
#97

idhriniel

Aug 19, 2010 8:54:30
......

By the way, the faint of heart shouldn't look up "zombie babies" on google images. Although that is completely irrelevant to the current topic.
#98

scypio

Aug 19, 2010 9:02:20
Yep, still annoyingly stupid.  Don't get me wrong, I rooted for those idiots simply because of my totally inexplicable hatred for Payton Manning, but I never once have and never will say that idiotic slogan.

That is pretty inexplicable.

By the way, the faint of heart shouldn't look up "zombie babies" on google images. Although that is completely irrelevant to the current topic.

Are you trying to stalk him or something?
#99

zombie_babies

Aug 19, 2010 9:05:44
Yeah, he just rubs me the wrong way.  Manning seems like a real dick or something.  I dunno, I just wanna see him lose.  I think if Gonzales wasn't hurt, I'd have possibly rooted for the Colts.  But he was out and I just can't get fired up about a guy named Garcon.  Sorry. 

I haven't been stalked in a long, long time.  Too long, really. 
#100

idhriniel

Aug 19, 2010 9:06:48
@ Scyp: I was not stalking the Prophet. I was just bored and started googling the first things that came to mind.

EDIT: By the way, if you do an image search under scypio (don't let it do the auto search of scipio)...there's some funky stuff.
#101

zombie_babies

Aug 19, 2010 9:09:24
Sounds like a classic case of stalking to me.  I'm gonna go ahead and reset my Stalk Counter.

Should we start a new football thread once the season starts?  This'n is good, but it's got Preseason in the title.  The old one was fine until Idolis and Micha went and had that silly fight so I think it should be left dead.  Decisions decisions ...
#102

idhriniel

Aug 19, 2010 9:11:30
What happened between Idolis and Cap'n? Hehe...
#103

zombie_babies

Aug 19, 2010 9:12:21
Read the thread.  Something about what is and isn't a sport with a whole lotta name callin' an' baseball bashin'.
#104

idhriniel

Aug 19, 2010 9:14:23
Ohh. Yeah, um...I think I'll leave it be. :hide:
#105

scypio

Aug 19, 2010 9:28:38
But he was out and I just can't get fired up about a guy named Garcon.  Sorry. 

Not a fan of Pierre? Its like every time I say his name I have to give a dirty French "huh huh" or something.

But for the stalking, I guess its a good change to have little girls stalk us or something.

And I'd vote for a new thread since I'm not normally a fan of extremely long threads except the "What do you want to talk about" one.
#106

zombie_babies

Aug 19, 2010 9:40:55
He's good an' all, but his name sucks.  I'm not a fan of Gonzales as a name really either, but he played for the Buckeyes so it's fun to root for him. 

These days the only broads checkin' me out ever are too young to be broads.  Kinda sad, really.  And uncomfortable.

Ok we'll start a new thread for the actual season.  I think that's best.  It's a pretty popular discussion thingy when football's happenin', too.
#107

zombie_babies

Aug 19, 2010 10:27:48
Nope.  I'm not havin' this.  Unless you're a Browns fan, you are not allowed to complain about your QB situation.  We brought in Shakey Jake (thanks, Cap) to fix our issues.  So chew on that a while and come talk. 
#108

idhriniel

Aug 19, 2010 10:28:52
Wait, were we talking about Eli getting pegged in the face? Ouch...
#109

scypio

Aug 19, 2010 11:48:59

While I don't think Alex Smith is THAT bad, the sheer thought that you could've selected Aaron Rodgers is probably enough to make 49ers fans cry themselves to sleep.

I used to be pretty down on Eli, but I'm starting to come around. He's pretty okay.

#110

zombie_babies

Aug 19, 2010 11:51:50
Yeah, Eli seems more like an unintentional tool than a dick so I suppose that's better.  But he does play in New York so there's that huge minus.    Skill wise?  He's improved.  That's about all ya can say I think.
#111

zombie_babies

Aug 19, 2010 14:42:04
Interesting Vikes news.  If it's all true, they may be in for a long season.  Aside from all the coach hate, Harvin was hospitalized today with migraine issues severe enough to cause him to collapse on field.
#112

scypio

Aug 20, 2010 9:42:59
Man, what's up with all the Peyton Manning hate? I thought most people liked him. How can you not? He makes fun of retarded children.

And I shouldn't be happy when someone collapses on the field, but whatever it takes to make a team which is better than mine worse...
#113

zombie_babies

Aug 20, 2010 10:22:58
He just seems like a dick.  And I hate the way he runs around at the line screaming like an idiot.  'Look at me!  Look at me!  I'm an NFL QB!  I'm better than my brother!  I'm better than my dad!'  Get over yourself, dood.  Oh, and he plays for a cheater.  Dirty Colts amping crowd noise.  Wouldn't have to if you didn't have a dick for QB cuz then your fans may actually cheer. 

Being happy about an injury to an opposing team's player is sick, but natural.  I still remember sittign in a bar watching the '02 Nat Championship.  When McGahee got his knee obliterated, we all cheered.  Sad.  I'm glad he's doing ok in the NFL now.  Too bad he plays for the Ravens ... heh.
#114

Idolis

Aug 22, 2010 14:57:29
Harvin's migraines are a problem but he's being checked out by doctors really thoroughly. The concern is he's been seeing doctors for a really long time and they can't figure out why he is having them.

Favre coming back is great for the team. He and Childress don't get along (that was evident last year when Favre threw a couple of touchdowns in two seperate games that were supposed to be running plays). Someone said the real problem is that Favre has been playing in that system for so long that he knows it better than Childress and its a case of too many chefs in the kitchen.



On a side note, I have apologized to Cap for my part in the argument in the last thread but I never apologized to those who read it. So I'm doing it now...

I'm very sorry ya'll. It was mainly my fault and I accept responsibility for the loss of that thread. A new thread is definately okay in my book.
#115

scypio

Aug 23, 2010 7:06:04
There a play clock that you can see if he delays the game or not. And as long as they "set" before the snap, you can move around foolishly before a snap. Lots of offenses do formation changes and motion before a snap.

But after reading what people said about Peyton I ask the wife what she thought of him (since most people I know like him). She said she has a negative opinion based solely on his commercials with Justin Timberlake. So I guess it must be common to dislike him.

For Favre, I heard that he said he wouldn't have come back if those three players did come down and personally ask him to return. Does anyone actually believe that?
#116

Cpt_Micha

Aug 23, 2010 8:25:25
He might not have. I don't think I'd ever seen him quite so heartbroken at the end of a game.

He was also pretty damn hurt at the end of that game. Hurt enough that you wouldn't forget that level of pain quickly. (let alone stop feeling it)

Peyton: I dunno he just seems kinda slow. Like an idiot savant. He can still throw though. I don't really have an opinion of him otherwise though.
#117

scypio

Aug 23, 2010 8:35:02
He had surgery and he was practicing with the local high school team. I guess I just can't give him the benefit of the doubt after 3 (?) retirements.

And yeah, Peyton does sound quite slow but that's probably 'cuz he's from the South. And he does look kind of like he's retarded since his forehead is kind of massive. And I think I probably developed such a positive opinion of Peyton since the Colts and the Patriots were rivals.
#118

Cpt_Micha

Aug 23, 2010 8:41:03
Even with surgery though there's the memory of the pain. and surgery doesn't 100 percent fix you.

I do think that he deliberately did not say one way or another this time around, to avoid the circus (and then that alleged "text message" popped up.. proving that the media will make controversy when there isn't any). That way when he did make his decision people would back off of it.

Practicing with a local highschool, I don't think that really counts as a "yeah I'm coming back". That would be like him flying to Cleveland or Detroit and practicing with them for a weekend. :-p

Though to be fair to Highschools everywhere they aren't going to be as bad as Cleveland is going to be this year, now that they have The Shake, with what is more or less a High School level team. (and The Shake imo isn't even HS QB material at this point)
#119

zombie_babies

Aug 23, 2010 8:56:21
Favre was back as long as he could jog.  He knew it, the team knew it, everyone knew it.  He came so close last year and he's damned close to a couple of milestones, too.  Plus the Vikes got totally jobbed in the Championship game.  I don't think he was so bad this time to be honest.  Unless he leaked the 'text' crap himself, that is.  Everyone also knew he was gonna bail on the workouts so he wasn't comin' back 'til about now anyway.  Oh well.  Still respect his game.  He's a friggin' legend.
#120

zombie_babies

Aug 26, 2010 14:36:46
Cool story.

Whatever the kid chooses, I wish him the best.  It's pretty unique to get the chance to choose between two dreams.  Then again, when you devote your life to achieving them, I suppose it all makes sense.