RIP Spidey?

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#1

ADHadh

Jan 28, 2009 12:52:35
After the complaints about One More Day, Quesada showed his disappointment with fans by saying "Next, you'll want him to get old and die."

I've gave it a little more thought: what if Spider-man really died of old age? I think I would like it!

Here are some of my thoughts:

* Spider-man gained this much popularity because, unlike other heroes, he still manages to be Peter Parker. A story like this would fit the "He's a man like you and me" trope much associated with Spidey.
* It would also show how bad-ass he is. Regular heroes get shot, fried, ripped in two or catch deathly illnesses. Managing to see the death of old age would be a truly super heroic feat!
* If it didn't happen earlier, Spidey would be the first at something as important again. Just like he was the first one to lose his girlfriend.

Thoughts?
#2

joni-san

Jan 28, 2009 13:44:35
I like the idea. It would make some epic storytelling.

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-Joni
#3

dirtyfrank

Jan 28, 2009 15:58:25
Getting rid of spiderman would be a good idea. Him going because of old age rather than while being in action would be cool because it's a lame way for a hero to die.
#4

lofgren

Jan 28, 2009 16:21:17
To me, the kernel of Spider-Man was always a regular guy struggling to be the best person he could be in extraordinary circumstances. Sort of the anti-Batman. Peter Parker just wants to be a decent human being, with a decent human life, but if you have super powers then that means you ought to do super things, otherwise you're not being the best person you can be.

I was all for the baby back when MJ was pregnant.

I didn't mind the constant marital difficulties. Felt very real. And Peter and MJ always worked through their problems. Sure, sometimes they would angst, separately or together, but they're married and they didn't do it lightly. It felt to me like the angst was justified.

I was all for Pete revealing his secret identity to the world and becoming a full time superhero. Spider-Man is about being human in a world of superbeings, and being human means things change.

I was not for the whole spider god stuff. Peter Parker is his own person, and the things he does as Spider-Man he does out of a sense of personal responsibility, not because he was mystically chosen by some distant deity.

I was all for Spider-Girl, and the death of Aunt May, and Peter growing old and weary of the world, and then rediscovering his joy again through his grandchildren.

And someday he would die. Whether tragically or quietly, naturally, and contentedly, it would be truly badass, because Peter Parker, unlike so many people, always tried to do the right thing, to be decent person, and to help people, no matter the obstacles that life threw in his way. And if he had problems, he dealt with them. He didn't have Superboy to punch time, and he didn't have a glacier to chill in for fifty years, or a giant, mysteriously funded mansion where he could hang out and make googly eyes at former supervillains and die and be resurrected every odd year. His problems were his own, and he did the hard work to get through them just like everybody else does.

Oh, except for that time he made a deal with Satan to sacrifice his wife in order to unnaturally extend the life of his octogenarian aunt and return his long dead high school buddy to life, incidentally erasing said friend's son's existence. Yeah, that sounds like a great idea.

Words. Cannot. Express. My. Rage.

I didn't even feel this way when DC decided to obliterate all traces of Cassandra Kane and Bart Allen's personalities in the same month. Essentially the character I have read about since I was nine years old has been chucked as if he never existed. No growth. No change. No experience. He's the same guy he was for people who read Spider-Man back in the '70s. Because apparently those of us who have been only reading for about twenty years or so aren't Real True Fans. DAMN YOU MARVEL. I READ THE ENTIRE MAXIMUM CARNAGE. I READ EVERY SYMBIOTE BOOK THERE WAS. I READ ABOUT THE DAMN OSBORN TWINS. I EVEN READ ABOUT 7/10ths OF THE CLONE SAGA, WHICH, OK, WAS NOT EXACTLY LOYAL, BUT C'MON THAT WAS A PIECE OF GARBAGE AND YOU KNOW IT, AND ANYWAY THAT'S MORE THAN JUST ABOUT ANY OF YOUR OTHER READERS.

And I feel really, really sorry for Joe Quesada. I mean, I love my mom, but I didn't fall in love with my wife on a whim. She's like a major organ. I don't think I could sacrifice my life with my wife if my mom were to die tomorrow, let alone when she's eighty. I can only imagine Joe has never known the love of a fantastic woman to believe that anybody would cast it off so casually.

In conclusion, I hope Stan Lee's cameo in whatever upcoming Marvel film is being produced is to casually walk up to Joe Quesada and hit him in the balls with a baseball bat as hard as he possibly can. I'd be happy if he did it in private, but if he does it on film the rest of us get to enjoy it as well.

So, uh, yeah, Spider-Man growing old and dying would have been awesome.
#5

oxybe

Jan 28, 2009 16:22:23
i dunno. i'm not one for superhero comics much, but i would find it interesting at least. spidey in the hospital, quietly chatting with his grandkids telling them not to worry, that when the time comes, he'll let them come swinging with him up in heaven.

a few tearful goodbyes later spidey smiles and the family leaves. hospital lights shuts off. comic ends.
#6

Alter_Boy

Jan 28, 2009 19:28:47
I would be happy with Peter married, having a kid, burying Aunt May, and living a life. I don't see why it's incompatible with who he is. Heck, for the first 200 issues, being a regular guy was Spider-man's schtick. But then, he became the regular young guy. Now, he's stuck in eternal arrested development, like Archie Andrews or Michael Jackson.

lofgren: I think anyone that gave Spiderman four extra arms (Spider-man #100)is in no position to judge the low-points of other people's comics. Stripperella, anyone? :P
#7

pigknight

Jan 28, 2009 19:33:55
If Spidey died playing an epic game of shuffle board with Doc Oc that'd be a good way to end it.
#8

batshido

Jan 28, 2009 19:34:46
In conclusion, I hope Stan Lee's cameo in whatever upcoming Marvel film is being produced is to casually walk up to Joe Quesada and hit him in the balls with a baseball bat as hard as he possibly can. I'd be happy if he did it in private, but if he does it on film the rest of us get to enjoy it as well.

Stan's pushing 80 at this point, isn't he? I doubt he could swing the bat level, much less accurately.
#9

boj0

Jan 28, 2009 22:03:45
If Spider-Man dies, it better be in his house lying in a pool of his own blood after that last big fight with Doc Octopus, telling MJ he loves her and how glad he is that Aunt May isn't around to say "I told you so." in her motherly way. Octopus will break into the house and in one last attempt to save his family, Peter webs Doc out of the building and tackles him to the pavement, killing them both. Peter Parker will die how he lived: a simple family man who fought to protect his loved ones.
#10

lofgren

Jan 29, 2009 11:00:25
Stan's pushing 80 at this point, isn't he? I doubt he could swing the bat level, much less accurately.

I'd be happy to do it for him if he needs the help.
#11

roxlimn

Jan 29, 2009 21:13:17
Rurouni Kenshin dies of a disease while helping out lepers in mainland China - years of good hard work in a godforsaken land to make the world a better place brings home the reality of his vow of nonviolence and peace.

Peter's vow of responsibility ought be brought home in the same way - relatively normal, but profoundly heroic at the same time.