I only know about this because of a comment section in my local paper. Do people really need free cell phones?
If I really need to be gotten ahold of I can either go see someone, or they can call.
Again 5/6ths of the world's population has a cell at this point. the remaining billion and change either live in too remote of areas, are in absolute hell holes that a cell wouldn't work in anyway (due to no towers or infrastructure) or choose not to have a cell (myself).
It is also available to people who are disabled... as in permanently. You aren't getting this because you broke your leg. You're getting this because you are not able to work and are low income. If your family has money (anything that is above the poverty line) you aren't going to qualify.
People aren't going to be getting a Safelink phone and start making drug deals. You would probably run out of minutes in a few days. You also need to reapply for it every couple of months.
It is a good service for those that need it. It's pretty messed up that they are going to charge for this. The people that get this are usually on a very fixed income.
Some people have no car or phone (cell or home) or friends and family.
Well, it sucks for them then, doesn't it?
And how is that my problem and/or responsibility?
Safelink is a service that is provided to a limited number of people. usually, it is given to the elderly who are on medicare and medicaid. They have to be low income... really low income. The phone is given to them for use in case of emergencies. The number of minutes is extremely limited. You are not going to be using this as your everyday phone.
It is also available to people who are disabled... as in permanently. You aren't getting this because you broke your leg. You're getting this because you are not able to work and are low income. If your family has money (anything that is above the poverty line) you aren't going to qualify.
People aren't going to be getting a Safelink phone and start making drug deals. You would probably run out of minutes in a few days. You also need to reapply for it every couple of months.
It is a good service for those that need it. It's pretty messed up that they are going to charge for this. The people that get this are usually on a very fixed income.
You can always call 911 on a cell phone. You do not need free minutes for emergency use.
And how is that my problem and/or responsibility?
You are a human being, right?
Anyway. Whether or not this is a good idea depends on what kind of phones and minutes they're handing out... a cheap phone about to be recycled anyway and an hour of calling time a week are enough to handle all emergencies, job interviews, and other things that need to be done and shouldn't cost more then about 10$ per month per person.
Handing out iPhones and 100 hours per month to call with on the other hand, is obviously BS.
I can understand the idea of "if you don't have a phone, you will never get hired." It's true. If you go to a company stating you cannot be called, or you have to call a friend and I'll call back later, you're most likely going to the bottom of the pile. Especially in a "we have another 50 people who are also qualified for this position and are easily reachable situation", which is what I'm guessing most people who are under the povertyline will be.
SAFELINK WIRELESS® service is U.S. government supported program for Income eligible households provided by TracFone Wireless, Inc. In order to participate in the SAFELINK WIRELESS® service, persons must meet certain eligibility requirements set by each State where the service is to be provided. These requirements are based on a person’s participation in a state or Federal support programs or by meeting the Income Poverty Guidelines as defined by the U.S. Government. SAFELINK WIRELESS® service is limited to one person per household.
www.safelinkwireless.com/Safelink/progra...
I would lvoe to have this service,since as it is with my current income and other issues I have been behind on my bil but sadly it isn't here in my state yet
You can always call 911 on a cell phone. You do not need free minutes for emergency use.
Sure... if you have a cellphone to begin with.
Some people have no car or phone (cell or home) or friends and family.
Well, it sucks for them then, doesn't it?
And how is that my problem and/or responsibility?
It is neither your problem or your responsibility. This is why the government is there. To help these people. And ultimately make it a better place for you, by limiting the number of cadavers you have to avoid while driving to work!
Ain't government great?
And how does gov't "help"?
With my tax money!
So while I have to buy my own cell phone, some other person gets a free one... at my expense.
Damn.... I'm thinking about quitting my job and going on welfare and geting everything for free AND have all the time I want to play games!!
And how is that my problem and/or responsibility?
You are a human being, right?
I believe so.
But how does that make me responsible for some body elses problems?
It is neither your problem or your responsibility.
If you have a cell phone you pay for yourself, there's a good chance it is your problem.
From the article:
Cell phones have become a ubiquitous part of our society and so has the Universal Service Fund charge on your bill. You'll find it under taxes and other charges.
The federal government allows...wireless companies to charge their customers a fee for the fund.
I believe so.
But how does that make me responsible for some body elses problems?
I read this pretty old book that said people should care for other people as it was the humane and right thing to do.
You must've not read it, then
I believe so.
But how does that make me responsible for some body elses problems?
I read this pretty old book that said people should care for other people as it was the humane and right thing to do.
You must've not read it, then
Yeah, I do care for other people... my wife, my kids, my dad, etc.
I am under no obligation to provide things for other people... especially when doing so could prevent me from taking care of my own family.
Why do I get punished for doing things right, while the other gets rewarded for doing things wrong?
Why is it my responsibility to provide for those outside my immediate family?
...
I recall an old saying... "Give a man a fish and feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and feed him the rest of his life."
To be honest, it's not a very well-written fantasy novel.
It isn't a fantasy novel.
And you are baiting.
To be honest, it's not a very well-written fantasy novel.
It isn't a fantasy novel.
And you are baiting.
Ok, a collection of short stories.
And I'm not the one that brought it up.
Not even below the poverty line: while I was job hunting earlier this year my phone service was suspended for three weeks and I'm pretty sure I missed out on at least two interviews as a result. Was my cell my only contact info? Nope. But if HR starts doing call-outs, unless you're the absolute top of the pile we-need-this-person-right-now they're probably just going to skip you if they get a "this customer cannot be reached at this time" message.
I am astounded, and disgusted, by the "entitlement" mentality on these boards.
NOBODY OWES YOU ANYTHING!
@LFK, covertly calling me ignorant because "I don't understand what it is like to live in poverty" is ridiculous and baiting on your part.
You know nothing about me or my life.
Well, except for maybe the 0.1% that owned it.
Fortunately, some people still care about people as a whole and society in general. Otherwise we'd be living in quite a horrible world.
Well, except for maybe the 0.1% that owned it.
Your definition of caring is different than mine.
And the world is still quite horrible.
And the world is still quite horrible.
Well yeah, like I said "some people care", not all of them. Hence the state of the world today.
But if you give people stuff, it tends to make then not want to earn stuff, and expect to be given stuff all the time.
As I have said before, the problem with socialism is that they eventually run out of other peoples money.
And the world is still quite horrible.
Well yeah, like I said "some people care", not all of them. Hence the state of the world today.
Covertly trying to say that I "don't care about people or society" isn't bothering me plu.
Try something different.
But if you give people stuff, it tends to make then not want to earn stuff, and expect to be given stuff all the time.
If people don't want to earn stuff, they should be shot in the face repeatedly.
But if you give people stuff, it tends to make then not want to earn stuff, and expect to be given stuff all the time.
If people don't want to earn stuff, they should be shot in the face repeatedly.
Why repeatedly?
One should do the trick... and you don't waste ammo.
Except the entitled, because they'll be full of holes.
But if you give people stuff, it tends to make then not want to earn stuff, and expect to be given stuff all the time.
Not always true. My family has been on public assistance of various types before. My mom relied on social security as she was physically unable to work. My wife and I used WIC and a couple other programs to help us early on. We hated it, it's not something you want to do if you have any amount of pride in yourself. We used the programs as intended, to simply give us just enough reprieve that we could get on our feet and become contributing members of society.
I realize that not all people are like that (I've actually overheard conversations where women talked about needing to get pregnant again because their WIC or food stamps or whatever was about to be cut off). That doesn't mean the concept of assistance is flawed, merely the particular implementation of it that allows (and sometimes even encourages) people to not work and remain on government assistance for far too long.
I know you're a socilaist plu, so this may be hard for you to understand...
But if you give people stuff, it tends to make then not want to earn stuff, and expect to be given stuff all the time.
As I have said before, the problem with socialism is that they eventually run out of other peoples money.
You seem to have a real problem understanding what it means to help people RH. People should be allowed to fail, but they should also be given the opportunity to succeed. You, in your hate for people who have had to get government help, can't see the difference. You have this ignorant belief that anyone who is poor, is poor because they were lazy and would rather have others give them things.
I don't think it should be mandatory as part of your bill, just an option. I don't really mind it, but for some people every dollar counts (how much is this fee anyway?). I wouldn't care if it was a default option (that's probably the easiest way to get people to contribute) so long as someone could call in and have it turned off.
It's included in your taxes. It is probably a few cents to a dollar or so. I just check my bill and it appears to be $1.71. I don't mind.
That doesn't mean the concept of assistance is flawed, merely the particular implementation of it that allows (and sometimes even encourages) people to not work and remain on government assistance for far too long.
Exactly.
But try explaining that to a socialist.
I'm not against assistance, but I have to look out for my family first. And I have no respect for people who live off the system... and there are far more people abusing the system than actually needs it.
A cell phone is a luxury, not a need, just like cars.
I know you're a socilaist plu, so this may be hard for you to understand...
But if you give people stuff, it tends to make then not want to earn stuff, and expect to be given stuff all the time.
As I have said before, the problem with socialism is that they eventually run out of other peoples money.
You seem to have a real problem understanding what it means to help people RH. People should be allowed to fail, but they should also be given the opportunity to succeed. You, in your hate for people who have had to get government help, can't see the difference. You have this ignorant belief that anyone who is poor, is poor because they were lazy and would rather have others give them things.
First, you assume that "I hate everybody on gov't assisstance", which is wrong on your part.
Second, calling me ignorant because YOU believe that I believe "that anyone who is poor, is poor because they were lazy and would rather have others give them things" is, again, wrong on your part, and baiting.
Third, everybody already has an opportunity "to succeed", but a lot of people squander or ignore such opportunities and still demand to be taken care of.
It is not my responsibility to make sure people have an "opportunity to succeed".
I know you're a socilaist plu, so this may be hard for you to understand...
But if you give people stuff, it tends to make then not want to earn stuff, and expect to be given stuff all the time.
As I have said before, the problem with socialism is that they eventually run out of other peoples money.
You seem to have a real problem understanding what it means to help people RH. People should be allowed to fail, but they should also be given the opportunity to succeed. You, in your hate for people who have had to get government help, can't see the difference. You have this ignorant belief that anyone who is poor, is poor because they were lazy and would rather have others give them things.
First, you assume that "I hate everybody on gov't assisstance", which is wrong on your part.
Second, calling me ignorant because YOU believe that I believe "that anyone who is poor, is poor because they were lazy and would rather have others give them things" is, again, wrong on your part, and baiting.
Third, everybody already has an opportunity "to succeed", but a lot of people squander or ignore such opportunities and still demand to be taken care of.
It is not my responsibility to make sure people have an "opportunity to succeed".
Proving my point buddy.
Third, everybody already has an opportunity "to succeed", but a lot of people squander or ignore such opportunities and still demand to be taken care of.
This is your ignorance. There's a difference between poor, lazy, and poverty.
It is not my responsibility to make sure people have an "opportunity to succeed".
And this is just you being an ****.
Also you keep using the word "socialist" like it's profanity. I don't think it means what you think it means.
Others have had a better chance "to suceed" than me, but do you hear me whining about it?
I did what I had to do to better myself... going in debt to get an education, using public transportation or begging rides until I could get my own vehicle, not having any "spening money" after bills are paid, not having a cell phone until I could afford one, etc.
People have to be responsible enough to make decisions that will better their lot in life. Rewarding bad decisions and laziness isn't the answer, as all too commonly happens with the current system.
I work long and hard to provide for my family, and give them nice things. I guess nowadays one really just needs gov't to do that for them.
Third, everybody already has an opportunity "to succeed", but a lot of people squander or ignore such opportunities and still demand to be taken care of.
This is your ignorance. There's a difference between poor, lazy, and poverty.It is not my responsibility to make sure people have an "opportunity to succeed".
And this is just you being an ****.
Also you keep using the word "socialist" like it's profanity. I don't think it means what you think it means.
Baiting and calling people names is against the CoC.
But you already know that, don't you?
What point?
Others have had a better chance "to suceed" than me, but do you hear me whining about it?
Yes. That is all you do. You complain about anyone using any type of government aid. I have yet to see you say anything positive about anyone using government aid momentarily to improve their situation to the point that they no longer needed it.
Look at Bone_naga's post and your reply. The only thing you could take away from it is that there is abuse in the system. I'm sure you were close to having a stroke reading that his family actually used government assistance.
I did what I had to do to better myself... going in debt to get an education, using public transportation or begging rides until I could get my own vehicle, not having any "spening money" after bills are paid, not having a cell phone until I could afford one, etc.
You mean you took out student loans and used public transportation? Are you saying that my tax dollars went into paying for you you get to school and be able to take classes? Why couldn't you have paid out of pocket for your own education you lazy jerk? I hope you don't plan on having your kids go to a public university. You know their tuition would be subsidize by the government. I expect such an abuse of the system would make you send them to a private university... and don't even think about financial aid buddy...
People have to be responsible enough to make decisions that will better their lot in life. Rewarding bad decisions and laziness isn't the answer, as all too commonly happens with the current system.
I work long and hard to provide for my family, and give them nice things. I guess nowadays one really just needs gov't to do that for them.
Who says others don't do the same? Bone_Naga is a perfect example.
I am complaining about people who abuse the system, not people who actually need the help, use the help, and then provide for themselves.
You guys just like to assume what I mean... and, I believe, some of you just like to try to piss me off.
*shrug*
Look guys, calling me names isn't pissing me off, so cut it out, huh?
I am complaining about people who abuse the system, not people who actually need the help, use the help, and then provide for themselves.
You guys just like to assume what I mean... and, I believe, some of you just like to try to piss me off.
*shrug*
The problem is that it appears as if you think everyone is abusing the system. This article about Safelink is empty of any information. They interview a few people without giving them any real information and you get responses like the one in the article that assumes someone was getting an Iphone. So far you have said nothing to make people think that you see the use in this program. All you have done is complained that some people are given a cellphone and that leads to them being lazy and not wanting wasting to better their situation.
All you have done is complained that some people are given a cellphone and that leads to them being lazy and not wanting wasting to better their situation.
That isn't what I said at all.
At least, it isn't what I meant.
I am complaining about people who abuse the system, not people who actually need the help, use the help, and then provide for themselves.
I only ever hear you complaining about the system existing. I hardly ever (if at all) hear you complain that the system is being abused. You make it sound (all the time) like you want to scrap every kind of government aid in existance.
If you really think that government aid should exist but the abuse should be dealt with, you are literally the worst person I've ever met on a forum when it comes to explaining how you feel about things.
and there are far more people abusing the system than actually needs it.
That is so un true.
Prove it.
and there are far more people abusing the system than actually needs it.
That is so un true.
Prove it.
How about you prove your claim.
Well, I will admit my communication skills, especially on a message board, are inadequate.
You should work on that. People might actually start to like you if you show that you're actually a reasonable and thoughtful person.
Exactly.And I have no respect for people who live off the system... and there are far more people abusing the system than actually needs it.
Yep, like those multimillionare's that pay virtually no taxes, retire, raking in millions per year and -still- accept social security and medicare. Those people clearly don't need it. I find it hilarious that your political idols never talk about that part. You know why they don't? Because they fall right in line with that problem.
If you have the money and don't need more, quit robbing the system. It's that simple really.
Are there people that abuse the system? Yes. But from my experience (and I live in the South, in a Red South too, it doesn't get much more System Dependent than trailer trash) they are a minority within the scope of the system.
Well, I will admit my communication skills, especially on a message board, are inadequate.
You should work on that. People might actually start to like you if you show that you're actually a reasonable and thoughtful person.
Yeah, I should work on that.
But not because I want people to like me.
And I already am a reasonable and thoughtful person.
You need to work a little harder on insulting me, you're not doing a very good job anymore...
If that's not really you, you should work on that. I'm not as annoying to people who don't come across as terrible whiners, ****es or insensitive arses.
That was a genuine bit of advice. All your "I'm reasonable and thoughtful" doesn't help anyone in a discussion if you come off as an insenstive, closed minded arsehole. Which is how you generally come across right now.
If that's not really you, you should work on that. I'm not as annoying to people who don't come across as terrible whiners, ****es or insensitive arses.
Plu, you do realize I feel the same way toward you, right?
Yes, but I'm not actually a reasonable and thoughtful person, I'm a genuine political extremist.
You guys are like twins.
And they call me the troll
Not on purpose anyway...
Hey! I don't troll!
Not on purpose anyway...
How does that work?
Hey! I don't troll!
Not on purpose anyway...
How does that work?
I don't say things with the purpose and intent to piss people off, but I do.
I don't say things with the purpose and intent to piss people off, but I do.
That's what happens when you don't think before you speak. You should try it some time.
So I suffer from a number off issues (Osteonecrosis-Avascular necrosis,very very severe Asthma,very very severe Alligeries) and so i'm on Social Security, and unable to work because if i worked I'd earn jsut enough to lose my beneifits which include my insurence,but I wouldn't earn enough to pay for the meds I need to live (my alligery shots alone cost a total of $15,000). Currently I have a cell phone because It's easier for me to use since I go out during the day to shop for things and go to the mall to hang out with friends. A home phone wouldn't be practicle for me.
This program were avaiible in my state of New Mexico would be wonderfuly since it owuld mean i'd quilify for it, currently I have been behind on my cell phone bil just once due to other things coming up that needed to be paid.
And if anyone had brothered to click to on the links i provided up thread,you'd see jsut what it takes to get into the program.
Third, everybody already has an opportunity "to succeed", but a lot of people squander or ignore such opportunities and still demand to be taken care of.
This is your ignorance. There's a difference between poor, lazy, and poverty.It is not my responsibility to make sure people have an "opportunity to succeed".
And this is just you being an ****.
Also you keep using the word "socialist" like it's profanity. I don't think it means what you think it means.
Baiting and calling people names is against the CoC.
But you already know that, don't you?
and did you report it? if not then hush about CoC violations
I'm not gonna read this whole thread to say that I, a person with two well paying jobs, can easily walk down the street and order 5 of these free phones. its a ****ing joke
Maybe you should have taken the time to at least read what Safelink is. Then you would realize you wouldn't qualify to get 1 of these phones.
I'm not gonna read this whole thread to say that I, a person with two well paying jobs, can easily walk down the street and order 5 of these free phones. its a ****ing joke
Maybe you should have taken the time to at least read what Safelink is. Then you would realize you wouldn't qualify to get 1 of these phones.
I know what safelink is I have a few. because I did what I said two posts ago.
I'm not gonna read this whole thread to say that I, a person with two well paying jobs, can easily walk down the street and order 5 of these free phones. its a ****ing joke
Maybe you should have taken the time to at least read what Safelink is. Then you would realize you wouldn't qualify to get 1 of these phones.
I know what safelink is I have a few. because I did what I said two posts ago.
I think RH wants to punch you.
I doubt it me and him get along pretty well. besides I just wanted to see if I could do it I didn't get them renewed or anything. I pay 3 cell phone bills I deserve some of that free cell phone crap anyway.
I'm not gonna read this whole thread to say that I, a person with two well paying jobs, can easily walk down the street and order 5 of these free phones. its a ****ing joke
Maybe you should have taken the time to at least read what Safelink is. Then you would realize you wouldn't qualify to get 1 of these phones.
I know what safelink is I have a few. because I did what I said two posts ago.
I think RH wants to punch shoot you repeadtedly.
Better...
J2C, are you sure you're not mistaking SafeLink (which you get sent) with a regular TracFone? I have a TracFone cuz I don't use a cell enough to spend a crapton of money with plans. My grandmother (God Rest Her Soul) had a SafeLink phone because she was on Medicare, only recieved a small amount of money from SS and such, and if she needed a phone to contact my grandpa, for example, she wouldn't have been able to afford it after a metric crap-ton of money on old people medicines and everything else.
I used to have Tracphone till Altel got bought up by AT&T,so they had to take it down in my area
J2C, are you sure you're not mistaking SafeLink (which you get sent) with a regular TracFone? I have a TracFone cuz I don't use a cell enough to spend a crapton of money with plans. My grandmother (God Rest Her Soul) had a SafeLink phone because she was on Medicare, only recieved a small amount of money from SS and such, and if she needed a phone to contact my grandpa, for example, she wouldn't have been able to afford it after a metric crap-ton of money on old people medicines and everything else.
I used to have Tracphone till Altel got bought up by AT&T,so they had to take it down in my area
Man that sucks. I'm using an LG TracPhone myself and damn, I can't kill the thing even if I wanted to. I'm a heavy guy and I've fallen onto this phone (damn glare ice...) and it was perfectly fine. Only problem I have is that calls are weird with how they deduct minutes. If the call lasts 1 min 20 sec, it takes two minutes, not 1.2 minutes.
J2C, are you sure you're not mistaking SafeLink (which you get sent) with a regular TracFone? I have a TracFone cuz I don't use a cell enough to spend a crapton of money with plans. My grandmother (God Rest Her Soul) had a SafeLink phone because she was on Medicare, only recieved a small amount of money from SS and such, and if she needed a phone to contact my grandpa, for example, she wouldn't have been able to afford it after a metric crap-ton of money on old people medicines and everything else.
I used to have Tracphone till Altel got bought up by AT&T,so they had to take it down in my area
Man that sucks. I'm using an LG TracPhone myself and damn, I can't kill the thing even if I wanted to. I'm a heavy guy and I've fallen onto this phone (damn glare ice...) and it was perfectly fine. Only problem I have is that calls are weird with how they deduct minutes. If the call lasts 1 min 20 sec, it takes two minutes, not 1.2 minutes.
right now i'm using AT&T,but if safelink was offered here,then i'd go with it
Safelink is a service that is provided to a limited number of people.
Limited in what sense exactly?
The Universal Service Law requires the following: at or below 135% of the Federal Poverty Guidelines, or participation in Medicaid; Food Stamps; Supplemental Security Income; Federal Public Housing Assistance (Section 8); Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program (GAO Greater Fraud Prevention Controls are Needed); National School Lunch Program's free lunch program; or Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (some other things will make you eligible too)
Assets don't seem to matter. (Millionare still eligible for food stamps).
According to a GAO investigation, even USF funds aren't a limiting factor.
The USAC (a private company that is collecting and dispursing the USF tax) reports that 58% of US households are eligible (perhaps that was the limiting factor you were talking about?). But, then again. It isn't as if fraud doesn't exist in those qualifying programs.
Even if you aren't eligible (since you only need to certify that you are eligible to participate), the odds of you getting caught are close to nil, and the punishment is next to nothing.
usually, it is given to the elderly who are on medicare and medicaid. They have to be low income... really low income. The phone is given to them for use in case of emergencies.
The phone is not given to them for this purpose. All cellphones can make emergency calls without any service plan. The common reason given for the program is it is necessary to get a job, or for making doctors appointments.
The number of minutes is extremely limited. You are not going to be using this as your everyday phone.
250 Minutes under Safelinkwireless's plan. I don't know about you, but I don't use anywhere near this amount a month.
It is also available to people who are disabled... as in permanently. You aren't getting this because you broke your leg. You're getting this because you are not able to work and are low income.
Incorrect. SSI is sufficient(bolding mine).
If your family has money (anything that is above the poverty line) you aren't going to qualify.
Incorrect. As I already stated, assets aren't counted, only income (and not all types). You can qualify though other non-income means anyway.
People aren't going to be getting a Safelink phone and start making drug deals. You would probably run out of minutes in a few days. You also need to reapply for it every couple of months.
Incorrect. I believe that states have the final say, but all I have found so far require reapplication only once per year (if at all).
It is a good service for those that need it. It's pretty messed up that they are going to charge for this. The people that get this are usually on a very fixed income.
The USF was originally created to promote "social equity" (for those in rural areas without telephones), to
"an economic efficiency objective" under Reagan, now the FCC wants to bring broadband access to everyone (seems it is nearly impossible to kill a government program, or a government tax, even after its objective has been met). I think FactCheck has it wrong, by not calling it a tax. What should really bother people on the left is that the majority of USF funds go to big telecom companies (61% high cost vs. 12% low income fund dispursements 2006). If you like compaines syphoning from the government, so be it. The E-Rate program (also part of the USF tax) takes another 20% (it too has had a problem (HP) of waste, fraud, and abuse), but that doesn't stop the NEA from wanting to get rid of those pesky archaic accounting practices.. Food Stamps have similar abuse problems, and when some states want to curb abuse they are looked down on.The Lifeline Program has had similar abuse problems. With approximately 6 million free cellphones, free food for you and your kids, free housing, free energy to play your Wii or Xbos, free cash aid to gamble at the casinos, and the FCC soon to give free broadband is it no wonder so many people want to be poor in America?
250 Minutes under Safelinkwireless's plan. I don't know about you, but I don't use anywhere near this amount a month.
Make some friends then you'll have someone to call.
[ ] Do you want to fund EBT / Foodstamps?
[ ] Do you want to fund Cellphones for the needy?
[ ] Do you want to fund Medicare / Medicaid?
[ ] Do you want to fund Obamacare?
[ ] Do you want to fund Corrupt Politicians™?
Then they do what they can with the money they get... It would be democratic because people have a choice... It would also be an informal form of voting. If not enough people support a program it gets dropped.
Heck we need to do this with all the pork barell programs out there:
[ ] Do you want to support Senater X's turtle walks on highways?
[ ] Do you want to support the state of X's no child thrown in front of the bus program?
Might have an actual effect...
Personally I think all of these programs should be check boxes on your tax return.
[ ] Do you want to fund EBT / Foodstamps?
[ ] Do you want to fund Cellphones for the needy?
[ ] Do you want to fund Medicare / Medicaid?
[ ] Do you want to fund Obamacare?
[ ] Do you want to fund Corrupt Politicians™?
Then they do what they can with the money they get... It would be democratic because people have a choice... It would also be an informal form of voting. If not enough people support a program it gets dropped.
Might have an actual effect...
of cutting off funding for everything or cutting it so much that it won't do anything
Personally I think all of these programs should be check boxes on your tax return.
[ ] Do you want to fund EBT / Foodstamps?
[ ] Do you want to fund Cellphones for the needy?
[ ] Do you want to fund Medicare / Medicaid?
[ ] Do you want to fund Obamacare?
[ ] Do you want to fund Corrupt Politicians™?
Then they do what they can with the money they get... It would be democratic because people have a choice... It would also be an informal form of voting. If not enough people support a program it gets dropped.
Heck we need to do this with all the pork barell programs out there:
[ ] Do you want to support Senater X's turtle walks on highways?
[ ] Do you want to support the state of X's no child thrown in front of the bus program?
Might have an actual effect...
Sure... if you include every government funded program. Including roads, education, waterways, the military, the FDA, etc. and so-on.
250 Minutes under Safelinkwireless's plan. I don't know about you, but I don't use anywhere near this amount a month.
Make some friends then you'll have someone to call.
Wow, thats all you have to say? I point out your mistakes, and this is what you take away from my post? Increible!
250 Minutes under Safelinkwireless's plan. I don't know about you, but I don't use anywhere near this amount a month.
Make some friends then you'll have someone to call.
Wow, thats all you have to say? I point out your mistakes, and this is what you take away from my post? Increible!
Seeing as you've been reporting posts for the lulz, I don't feel the need to make any serious attempt at responding to your posts.
I think that would be for the best. You may go back to your regularly scheduled propaganda.
you report?
please don't