She said, and I quote, "Anything goes." So if it's from a published book, we can do it, and we're starting at level 9 (Apparently our new guy wants to bring in his old healer from a different game)
My first thought was to make a Half-Air Elemental, Half-Fiend, Ghul Wererat (Ninja 5/ Assassin 4) with Vow of Poverty. He would kill every NPC he came within 30 feet of and constantly hide from the other PCs and plan elaborate schemes to kill them in their sleep. All his stats come out to be at least 22, or something like that.
I'm not totally happy with this idea. Sounds fun, but maybe I'm disrupting game play too much?
So I need ideas for a character that I can screw with Miss DM with, but is fun to play and not disrupt game play too much. Help?
Edit 1: I should specify, we're pulling mostly from 3.5e with a Pathfinder twist.
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You forgot level adjusments.
Ah, another detail I failed to mention. Level Adjustments don't exist. Miss DM doesn't like them.
Other then that; I agree completely with Boraxe.
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dude: be a human. apply the feral template (savage species). LA+1, er 0. loads of goodies, but the important is 2 claws and +4 str (oh, and natural armor, a crapton of abilities and FAST HEALING).
since you really want to be a jerk, apply half-dragon at this point. this LA+3, er 0, template will further boost your str by +8 and give you a bite attack. i say Red dragon for being flame retardant.
then apply the half-farspawn template (lords of madness). more goodies at LA+4, er 0. important: gives you 4 free tentacles and a laundry list of abilities (many spell-likes like greater invis 1/day, natural weapons considered magic VS DR, blindsight 60 ft, immunities, etc...).
since you have a change shape effect via half-farspawn this also allows you go into warshaper and gain morphic weapon, for an extra tentacle or whatnot. level 2 gives you +4 str & +4 con.
so we have 5 tentacles+2 claws+1 bite.
now go into soul eater (book of vile darkness), which allows you to drain levels, no save, on a touch. make a full attack worth of grapple checks, in addition to innate stat enhancement boosts upon draining a level and the ability to fire a frikkin laser once per day. oh, remember that feral template i mentioned? yeah: pounce. also: rake (2 free attacks at full BAB with your back legs [IE:don't wear shoes] if you succeed at grappling)
so assuming you should probably have at least 2 attacks per round at this point with your main claw, and the 6 other natural attacks (all at -5 full BAB) and should you actually succeed at grappling with one of your 9 attacks you get 2 more free ones at full BAB. all naturally unarmed (ie: touching the enemy). all draining one level each.
and once you hit level 7 in soul eater, 2 levels each.
you will effectively murder things by punching their soul out and looking like something from a HP lovecraft novel: a primal, scaled, tentacled amorphous horror made of hate, spite and pure chaos.
the easiest counter to you is stuff immune to level drain, but even then you still punch like a bullet train, you're about as naturally armored as a tank & have a healing factor akin to wolverine.
there. now get ready to run for the hills as you GM throws a library's worth of books rightfully amied your noggin and probably denies you entry at their next game for taking advantage of her niceness.
...
you know what? if you're going for campaign-breaking, go all-out. i say add a few levels of frenzied berserker (comp.warrior) from then on. run the whole gamut of GM AND player hate as once you've swiftly turned the enemies into soulless husks, brutally tenderized by your adamantium fists your rage will still not be satiated and thus turned onto the party.
start off with barb 4/fighter 2/warshaper 2/SE1. at 10, FB1 followed by 6 levels of SE and the rest in FB.
feats:
human - alertness
level 1 - power attack
level 3 - destructive rage
fighter 1 - cleave
level 6 - intimidating rage
fighter 2 - weapon focus (claws)
level 9 - improved bull rush. because....
level 12 - shock trooper (comp.warrior) makes everything hilarious.
level 15 - skill focus (underwater basketweaving)
level 16 - skill focus (improved underwater basketweaving)
end game build:
Barb 4/ftr 2/warshaper 2/SE7/FB5.
there is no kill like overkill.
dude: be a human. apply the feral template (savage species). LA+1, er 0. loads of goodies, but the important is 2 claws and +4 str (oh, and natural armor, a crapton of abilities and FAST HEALING).
since you really want to be a jerk, apply half-dragon at this point. this LA+3, er 0, template will further boost your str by +8 and give you a bite attack. i say Red dragon for being flame retardant.
then apply the half-farspawn template (lords of madness). more goodies at LA+4, er 0. important: gives you 4 free tentacles and a laundry list of abilities (many spell-likes like greater invis 1/day, natural weapons considered magic VS DR, blindsight 60 ft, immunities, etc...).
since you have a change shape effect via half-farspawn this also allows you go into warshaper and gain morphic weapon, for an extra tentacle or whatnot. level 2 gives you +4 str & +4 con.
so we have 5 tentacles+2 claws+1 bite.
now go into soul eater (book of vile darkness), which allows you to drain levels, no save, on a touch. make a full attack worth of grapple checks, in addition to innate stat enhancement boosts upon draining a level and the ability to fire a frikkin laser once per day. oh, remember that feral template i mentioned? yeah: pounce. also: rake (2 free attacks at full BAB with your back legs [IE:don't wear shoes] if you succeed at grappling)
so assuming you should probably have at least 2 attacks per round at this point with your main claw, and the 6 other natural attacks (all at -5 full BAB) and should you actually succeed at grappling with one of your 9 attacks you get 2 more free ones at full BAB. all naturally unarmed (ie: touching the enemy). all draining one level each.
and once you hit level 7 in soul eater, 2 levels each.
you will effectively murder things by punching their soul out and looking like something from a HP lovecraft novel: a primal, scaled, tentacled amorphous horror made of hate, spite and pure chaos.
the easiest counter to you is stuff immune to level drain, but even then you still punch like a bullet train, you're about as naturally armored as a tank & have a healing factor akin to wolverine.
there. now get ready to run for the hills as you GM throws a library's worth of books rightfully amied your noggin and probably denies you entry at their next game for taking advantage of her niceness.
...
you know what? if you're going for campaign-breaking, go all-out. i say add a few levels of frenzied berserker (comp.warrior) from then on. run the whole gamut of GM AND player hate as once you've swiftly turned the enemies into soulless husks, brutally tenderized by your adamantium fists your rage will still not be satiated and thus turned onto the party.
start off with barb 4/fighter 2/warshaper 2/SE1. at 10, FB1 followed by 6 levels of SE and the rest in FB.
feats:
human - alertness
level 1 - power attack
level 3 - destructive rage
fighter 1 - cleave
level 6 - intimidating rage
fighter 2 - weapon focus (claws)
level 9 - improved bull rush. because....
level 12 - shock trooper (comp.warrior) makes everything hilarious.
level 15 - skill focus (underwater basketweaving)
level 16 - skill focus (improved underwater basketweaving)
end game build:
Barb 4/ftr 2/warshaper 2/SE7/FB5.
there is no kill like overkill.
wait what? no LA penalties? someone asking for help being a jerk? oxybe to the rescuuuuuuuue!Show
dude: be a human. apply the feral template (savage species). LA+1, er 0. loads of goodies, but the important is 2 claws and +4 str (oh, and natural armor, a crapton of abilities and FAST HEALING).
since you really want to be a jerk, apply half-dragon at this point. this LA+3, er 0, template will further boost your str by +8 and give you a bite attack. i say Red dragon for being flame retardant.
then apply the half-farspawn template (lords of madness). more goodies at LA+4, er 0. important: gives you 4 free tentacles and a laundry list of abilities (many spell-likes like greater invis 1/day, natural weapons considered magic VS DR, blindsight 60 ft, immunities, etc...).
since you have a change shape effect via half-farspawn this also allows you go into warshaper and gain morphic weapon, for an extra tentacle or whatnot. level 2 gives you +4 str & +4 con.
so we have 5 tentacles+2 claws+1 bite.
now go into soul eater (book of vile darkness), which allows you to drain levels, no save, on a touch. make a full attack worth of grapple checks, in addition to innate stat enhancement boosts upon draining a level and the ability to fire a frikkin laser once per day. oh, remember that feral template i mentioned? yeah: pounce. also: rake (2 free attacks at full BAB with your back legs [IE:don't wear shoes] if you succeed at grappling)
so assuming you should probably have at least 2 attacks per round at this point with your main claw, and the 6 other natural attacks (all at -5 full BAB) and should you actually succeed at grappling with one of your 9 attacks you get 2 more free ones at full BAB. all naturally unarmed (ie: touching the enemy). all draining one level each.
and once you hit level 7 in soul eater, 2 levels each.
you will effectively murder things by punching their soul out and looking like something from a HP lovecraft novel: a primal, scaled, tentacled amorphous horror made of hate, spite and pure chaos.
the easiest counter to you is stuff immune to level drain, but even then you still punch like a bullet train, you're about as naturally armored as a tank & have a healing factor akin to wolverine.
there. now get ready to run for the hills as you GM throws a library's worth of books rightfully amied your noggin and probably denies you entry at their next game for taking advantage of her niceness.
...
you know what? if you're going for campaign-breaking, go all-out. i say add a few levels of frenzied berserker (comp.warrior) from then on. run the whole gamut of GM AND player hate as once you've swiftly turned the enemies into soulless husks, brutally tenderized by your adamantium fists your rage will still not be satiated and thus turned onto the party.
start off with barb 4/fighter 2/warshaper 2/SE1. at 10, FB1 followed by 6 levels of SE and the rest in FB.
feats:
human - alertness
level 1 - power attack
level 3 - destructive rage
fighter 1 - cleave
level 6 - intimidating rage
fighter 2 - weapon focus (claws)
level 9 - improved bull rush. because....
level 12 - shock trooper (comp.warrior) makes everything hilarious.
level 15 - skill focus (underwater basketweaving)
level 16 - skill focus (improved underwater basketweaving)
end game build:
Barb 4/ftr 2/warshaper 2/SE7/FB5.
there is no kill like overkill.
no wonder, we never had that book in the FLGS so i have little to no knowledge of it's content. though from what i hear, i'm not missing too much.
The Binder class and vestige stuffs were awesome-sauce, the Shadowcaster was pretty cool and deosn't afraid of anyting, but the Truenamer was meh-y.
Naturally Invisible, Magic Immune (EX) ball of rock, with dr and a 30+ AC: That can't move (except by burrowing).
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I'm not totally happy with this idea. Sounds fun, but maybe I'm disrupting game play too much?
So I need ideas for a character that I can screw with Miss DM with, but is fun to play and not disrupt game play too much. Help?
*facepalms*
How about just designing a character, using this book i've heard of... What was it called again? Oh thats right Players Handbook.
But seriously you don't mess with the DM, unless you plan on destroying the game & don't plan on being invited back.
-M
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Wow.
Really?
You removed my post, which basically said, "Isn't there another place in the forums that this would better to be in?"
And you deem that to be "disruption"?
Really?
No wonder I, and many, many others, think that moderation is a joke on here.
And I am fully aware that this post will be deleted as well.
I simply do not care...
And I want to let the community know how poor of a job moderation does...
*gasp*
It is the right thing to do.
Imagine that..."
~Robin_Hoodlum Sep 15, 2010 - 3:13PM
"I am polite because...
*gasp*
It is the right thing to do.
Imagine that..."
~Robin_Hoodlum Sep 15, 2010 - 3:13PM
And?
I call BS when I see it and I stand up for myself and what I believe in.
Has nothing to do with being polite.
I am polite until I feel as though I am being impolited to...
You removed my post, which basically said, "Isn't there another place in the forums that this would better to be in?"
And you deem that to be "disruption"?
I imagine, without confirmation, that your first post which said as such was deleted because it led into other posts that were basically you and Goldo sniping back and forth, which was a disruption. Or to put it another way... the first post might not have been a disruption, but as it directly led into the conversation that was a disruption it got caught in the collateral damage.
You removed my post, which basically said, "Isn't there another place in the forums that this would better to be in?"
And you deem that to be "disruption"?
I imagine, without confirmation, that your first post which said as such was deleted because it led into other posts that were basically you and Goldo sniping back and forth, which was a disruption. Or to put it another way... the first post might not have been a disruption, but as it directly led into the conversation that was a disruption it got caught in the collateral damage.
Ahhh...
That may, indeed, be the case...
I just thought we had a disagreement. Nothing disruptive about that considering that it's standard practice on the boards.
Especialy when I do not see eye to eye with my Bizzaro me or, from RH's point of view his Bizzaro.
The squeeky wheel gets the grease...
I just thought we had a disagreement. Nothing disruptive about that considering that it's standard practice on the boards.
Especialy when I do not see eye to eye with my Bizzaro me or, from RH's point of view his Bizzaro.
The squeeky wheel gets the grease...
Not sure I understand.
The person who complains the loudest and most gets what he wants.
I just thought we had a disagreement. Nothing disruptive about that considering that it's standard practice on the boards.
Especialy when I do not see eye to eye with my Bizzaro me or, from RH's point of view his Bizzaro.
The squeeky wheel gets the grease...
Not sure I understand.
The person who complains the loudest and most gets what he wants.
I am not sure how this applies to this situation.
Somebody complained long enough and hard enough so that my (our) posts got deleted.
Believe me, I have said worse things in other threads, and nothing got deleted. It all depends on who is in the thread, and whose feelings I've hurt.
*shrug*
I am no longer disqusted, just amused...
I always wonder who report these things.
Losers.
Prolly the OP came back and was all like "wtf is all this crap, this has nothing to do with my question."
Prolly the OP came back and was all like "wtf is all this crap, this has nothing to do with my question."
But how is this instance different than just about any other thread in the OTT?
I fanyone wants to visite Hell, now is the time. RH and I are agreeing so it must be frozen.
Prolly the OP came back and was all like "wtf is all this crap, this has nothing to do with my question."
But how is this instance different than just about any other thread in the OTT?
Prolly the OP came back and was all like "wtf is all this crap, this has nothing to do with my question."
See the bolded part.
Crap? It was like Einstein meeting Hawking.
You are making me laugh too much today goldo...
Prolly the OP came back and was all like "wtf is all this crap, this has nothing to do with my question."
What is this I don't even...
Crap? It was like Einstein meeting Hawking.
You are making me laugh too much today goldo...
Us getting along, is it a good omen or a bad omen?
Well, to be honest...
It won't last.
We'll piss each other off again sooner or later...
Prolly the OP came back and was all like "wtf is all this crap, this has nothing to do with my question."
What is this I don't even...
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Of which you can apply each and every type.
Alternatively just go half-dragon.
Of which you can apply each and every type.
Incorrect. Ignoring the fact that they are all the same template, the template requiers you to not be a dragon, and then it makes you a dragon, thus you cannot take another template that requiers you to be a non-dragon.
Alternatively just go half-dragon.
Of which you can apply each and every type.
Incorrect. Ignoring the fact that they are all the same template, the template requiers you to not be a dragon, and then it makes you a dragon, thus you cannot take another template that requiers you to be a non-dragon.
nope. half-dragon's only requirement is that : "Half-dragon" is an inherited template that can be added to any living, corporeal creature (referred to hereafter as the base creature).
Huh, strange oversight. Still, it is the same template, not a diffrent template for each.
Still, you would think dragons would just all start breeding cross colors, it would greatly increase the survivability of their offspring. (2 elemental Immunites, ability bonuses, back up breath weapon, improved armor) especially during their younger years. Once they reach young adult, though, you need to figure out what happens when a creature would get 2 fly speeds, normally you keep whichever is better, but one is faster, but the other is more manueverable, so which is 'better' is far from clear. Do they get to pick which one they want to use in any given round, or do they end up with their full speed, and the better manuverability?
Or put those templates on a pixie.
Making a PC with the intent of disrupting the game does not screw with the DM, it screws with every person at the table. Don't be surprised if you are told to GTFO when your childish nonsense starts pissing all over everyone else's good time.
Exactly. Being disruptive at all is being too disruptive. They always say that there's no wrong way to play D&D. Welp, they're wrong about that. This way - playing to disrupt - is the wrong way to play.
Making a PC with the intent of disrupting the game does not screw with the DM, it screws with every person at the table. Don't be surprised if you are told to GTFO when your childish nonsense starts pissing all over everyone else's good time.
Agreed.
That said, she is no longer a pushover, killed my character in the first twenty minutes, and I after much laughing between all six of us at the table, I rolled a new character and we continued.
I went with with the Soul Eater idea, but tweaked it a bit.
Started with human, applied the Paragon template (ELH and best template freaking ever), Half-dragon, and half-fiend.
As for class, well at first she allowed gestalt characters (Unearthed Arcana) so Barbarian 3/Ninja 4/Soul Eater 1 all with 8 gestalt Monk levels and one Cleric, just for the hell of it.
The way we run Flurry of Blows (I'm pretty sure it's not supposed to be like this, but it's been like this for years) a Monk gets a full set of Flurrys for each BAB she has. Plus, I gave her a monk's belt and handwraps of speed (giving her two extra attacks in her flurry). She ended up with like, 20 or so unarmed strikes in a full round, each giving a negative level on top of doing almost 50 points of damage each without raging. Oh, and nothing could touch her. Something about 60+ AC and DR 20
Pissed DM was Pissed. Everyone else thought it was hilarious that I managed to destroy her entire session in ten minutes. My character ended up being swallowed by a worm the size of Kansas and instead of a long death in it's stomach, she punched herself to death.
Best session ever.
Also, no, I would never intentionally screw up a campaign. Maybe it's just because I'm the regular DM and I know what it's like when a player screws things up accidently. Or maybe it's just because I play with my friends and their enjoyment means something to me.
So did I expect so much hate from faceless internet persons when all I wanted was an answer to a very simple question? Honestly, a little. You're telling me none of you have ever wanted to screw with your best friend who happens to be a total pushover? If you answer how I think most of you would, you're liars.
Wow, you're a pretty big dick there. I don't pull stuff like this, and I wouldn't want to be friends with people who did. Much less play a game with them.
So did I expect so much hate from faceless internet persons when all I wanted was an answer to a very simple question? Honestly, a little. You're telling me none of you have ever wanted to screw with your best friend who happens to be a total pushover? If you answer how I think most of you would, you're liars.
Wow, you're a pretty big dick there. I don't pull stuff like this, and I wouldn't want to be friends with people who did. Much less play a game with them.
Agreed.