So, There's This Volcano ...

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#1

KillerGM

Mar 23, 2009 13:31:29
Mt Redoubt erupted five times last night. It's about 100 miles from me, and we haven't had any repercussions yet, but this is probably the closest I've been to a national disaster in a long time. If the winds change, we may get some ash here.

Just another of the many, many joys of living in Alaska.

Well, to make this a thread, rather than just a post, I should lead into a discussion.

Have you ever been affected by a natural disaster? What's your story?
#2

bardiques

Mar 23, 2009 13:40:13
Not myself, but my cousin did manage to get sucked up by a Tornado in his little POS Dodge Shadow about six years ago. He claims he was just in the wrong time, but knowing him to be the thrill seeking loonie that he is, I think he decided to just see how close he could get to it. Well, he ended up in the hospital with broken ribs, an entire arm, leg and a car that was even more junk then it already was. He was in the hospital for months after that.

Me? Well, closest I've come would be a mini plain tornado. Not one of those little wispy things you might have seen, a real plain-based MT. Dusty, sand, dirty and gravel, carried me about five meters then blew away. Cut open my cheek, about the worst it did. More fun then scary. Though, I would never live next to a volcano. Inactive or not.
#3

KillerGM

Mar 23, 2009 14:30:20
Well, had I a choice, I wouldn't live here either (for a long list of reasons, volcano not even included). Unfortunately, the Army seldomly accounts for personal preference in assigning duty stations. I can't wait to PCS (hopefully, sometime in 2010).

But it is about 100 miles away, so it's not like I can see it from my house. :P
#4

Idolis

Mar 23, 2009 14:43:58
I lived in Freeburg, Illinois and I was around four. The tornado sirens went off and my mom told me to hide in the bathroom. (At the time, we lived in a trailer park.) I disobeyed her and went to the window instead to see what was going on.

I saw one of those small tornadoes come down the middle of street. It didn't do any real damage except snap a telephone pole that landed on a neighbor's trailer and rip the bark off of some trees nearby.

Afterwards, the street was filled with little bits of debris. I wasn't really scared. At the time, it was kinda' cool.
#5

dirtyfrank

Mar 23, 2009 17:05:39
I have not been in any natural disasters, thank god. One of the only good things about Sacramento is that it isn't near any fault lines such as the San Andreas that runs through San Fransisco and LA.

I did once have a teacher that was a little girl when that huge earth quake in Anchorage hit many years ago. Her family then moved out of Alaska and went to the safety of the Hawaiian Islands. After screwing up once more they moved to the safety of San Fransisco....OK so they made another mistake. Her parents didn't seem to be that good at getting away from natural disaster zones.
#6

ciaran

Mar 23, 2009 17:06:50
We had an earthquake several years ago. I had the day off work and slept through most of it. I felt vibrations but thought I was dreaming! It wasn't such a terrible one but it did put some of the oldest buildings downtown to rest.
#7

skyodin

Mar 23, 2009 17:45:58
Thankfully, I haven't had any truly close encounters with natural disasters. The closest I came to anything serious was living in Oklahoma for about a year or so. While I never had to deal with a tornado firsthand, it was the only time in my life when I had to do tornado drills in school. I am actually kind of glad we ended up moving away before too long.

Since I live in Sacramento these days, natural disasters aren't really a big deal. Well, we are in the middle of a two-year drought right now, but that isn't the dramatic kind. However, the only time I ever drove down to L.A. (for a videogame convention late in 2007), a major wildfire broke out just as we were leaving. We had to drive right past the fires and through the smoke as we left town. I actually saw some firefighters on a nearby hilltop. That event capped off a trip that convinced me that L.A. didn't like me. Too bad that I might have to move there sooner or later.
#8

pigknight

Mar 23, 2009 17:47:16
In California we have tons of earthquakes. Who buys an alarm clock in California?
#9

batshido

Mar 23, 2009 17:47:48
I grew up on a flood plain. In 1992, our yard spent 25 days underwater in the month of July specifically, though we were flooded off and on for several months before and after that year and the next as well.

I'm not sure I'm going to be any help as far as "dealing with it." I remember thinking the whole thing was pretty cool.
#10

dirtyfrank

Mar 23, 2009 17:49:54
The only regularly occurring natural disaster in California is Wildfires. Every summer the entire state goes up in flames. The are is full of smoke and the fields get scorched black.
#11

pigknight

Mar 23, 2009 17:50:32
True that.
#12

dirtyfrank

Mar 23, 2009 17:53:28
I don't entirely buy into the whole drought thing, which apparently happens every year, because it seems to be wet and cold for most of the winter. I just think most of the water goes away because of all the wildfires that rage every summer. Or it could be that LA takes it all.
#13

mock26

Mar 23, 2009 17:54:22
See what happens when society decides it is wrong to toss virgins into a volcano? They erupt!

As for natural disasters, I have lived my entire life near Buffalo, NY, in Finland, or in Chicago. To date the only natural disasters I have had to contend with are blizzards. No earthquakes (though the New Madrid Fault Line could level Chicago), to volacanos (though the Yellowstone Caldera could destroy Chicago), to tornados, no major flooding, no hurricanes, no tsunamis. Gotta love the snow!
#14

E._Ravenwood

Mar 23, 2009 18:05:02
I was introduced into the catholic church during horrible thunderstorms and tornado sirens were going off as I was being baptized.

A sign, perhaps..........
#15

Nyronus

Mar 23, 2009 18:45:59
The house I lived in before the current one was destroyed by Hurricane Katrina. I then lived in Ohio for a year and had to put up with my crazy aunt and the apparent myth that Louisiana consists of New Orleans and only New Orleans.

Of course, for the first time in my life I had a student body who wasn't de-facto hateful of my very presence. I opened up and learned how to make friends. When I came back down I was transferred out of that hateful ****hole of a school I had been going to and proceeded to have a pretty decent Junior and Senior year. The Christmas of the later we moved into a nice new house near the person who would come to be one of my closest friends.

In actuality, that damn storm was one of the best things that ever happened to me.
#16

midnitepoison

Mar 23, 2009 19:44:53
the army stationed you in Alaska? thats better than afghanistan, which is were I will likely be stationed
#17

KillerGM

Mar 23, 2009 20:07:22
the army stationed you in Alaska? thats better than afghanistan, which is were I will likely be stationed

My husband is stationed in Alaska, so this is where we live. He and his unit are currently deployed, and will be for the next year.

The way the US Army works is that there are military bases to which soldiers are stationed, in units (battalions, batteries, companies, etc). Those units are then deployed to other areas (combat zones, etc).

So, while my husband is stationed in Alaska, he is not here (he's actually in Afghanistan right now). I hope I'm explaining this right. I don't know how other countries' military work (just not assuming you're familiar with the US military).

EDIT: A quick glance through your profile makes me think you are in the US, so ... you'll be stationed somewhere in the US (or possibly a few areas OCONUS) and then be deployed to somewhere else with your unit.
#18

pigknight

Mar 23, 2009 21:03:23
*Throws a snowball*

*Gets mauled by a bear*

*Gets mauled by a penguin*
#19

KillerGM

Mar 23, 2009 22:17:45
#20

dirtyfrank

Mar 23, 2009 22:41:06
*Throws a snowball*

*Gets mauled by a bear*

Why the hell are you throwing snowballs at a godless killing machine?
#21

ADHadh

Mar 24, 2009 13:57:38
The only natural disasters that happen where I live would be really cold winters. They usually last only a week or two (after that it gets more bearable), except when some guy in Russia decides that the west doesn't need gas after all :/
#22

Shiftkitty

Mar 24, 2009 14:14:51
Worst natural disaster I've been through? Loma Prieta. It was the only quake that actually sent me into a doorway and had me fearing for someone's safety. My brother was somewhere out on 880, and all we heard over the radio (we knew that KARA would be up and running within seconds, so we had the neighborhood lowriders tune in their radios so we could broadcast for the 'hood) was that part of 880 had buckled and collapsed and trapped and destroyed an unknown number of cars. Turns out he was nowhere near the collapse. I was never happier to see that piece of crap he called a car rumbling down the road spewing exhaust!

The neighbor's daughter had a baby who was on a heart monitor. The battery went dead so they jerry-rigged it to a car battery until someone could scout a clear path to the local hospital. I drove her there and rode out aftershocks most of the evening. When I came back through a darkened, spooky neighborhood, my parents had dragged out an old crank-style record player and the older folks brought out their old 78RPM records. It turned into a block party of sorts. I got to meet the guy across the street who is now my husband, and now nothing smaller than a 6.5 gets my attention.

I don't buy the drought thing in this state. For one, we're right next to the Pacific Ocean. If we were as desperate as they say we are, we could desalinate the salt water. It's not like it won't wind up back in the ocean again at some point in the natural cycle. There's also all that snowpack up in the Sierras. How much of it isn't going to be put to use? I'll believe there's a drought when the golf courses go yellow and the fat cats in LA drive around in dusty cars. (My , YMMV.)
#23

dirtyfrank

Mar 24, 2009 14:18:57
I don't buy the drought thing in this state. For one, we're right next to the Pacific Ocean. If we were as desperate as they say we are, we could desalinate the salt water. It's not like it won't wind up back in the ocean again at some point in the natural cycle. There's also all that snowpack up in the Sierras. How much of it isn't going to be put to use? I'll believe there's a drought when the golf courses go yellow and the fat cats in LA drive around in dusty cars. (My , YMMV.)

People always say there is a drought when there isn't enough snow for the snowboarders.
#24

toastedamphibian

Mar 24, 2009 15:53:29
I live in Florida. So yes. Hurricanes are a damned nussiance.
#25

Cpt_Micha

Mar 25, 2009 7:01:09
Mt Redoubt erupted five times last night. It's about 100 miles from me, and we haven't had any repercussions yet, but this is probably the closest I've been to a national disaster in a long time. If the winds change, we may get some ash here.

Just another of the many, many joys of living in Alaska.

Well, to make this a thread, rather than just a post, I should lead into a discussion.

Have you ever been affected by a natural disaster? What's your story?

Hurricane Hugo, I was really little so I don't remember much. I remember so many trees coming down and then my dad having to cut down the survivors because they weren't really survivors.

There was that other Hurricane that came up, flooded the river (think water level rising over 30 feet and that's what I mean by flood) flooded out a very large swath of town. I lived waaay uphill from that so we dodged a bullet there. But I know a few people that had to close up shop because their store was destroyed, and a lot of people's houses were severely damaged.

We don't get many hurricanes up where I live but usually the ones we get are real heavy hitters.
#26

goblin_pride

Mar 29, 2009 11:34:49
I was visiting a cousin in Des Moines, Washington when St Helens popped it's top. I lived in California for awhile, so I've seen earthquakes. I lived in Florida for a bit, just long enough to dodge two hurricanes. I'm from Oklahoma originally, so tornadoes were probably first. And for quite awhile now I've been living in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, so blizzards are pretty common. Until last year, I had never seen a flood, so one decided my living room looked like a good place to be.

With all the natural disasters I've seen, I'm just wondering what new trick nature is going to come up with.
#27

half_dragon_infernal

Mar 29, 2009 11:54:02
@KGM I've got an aunt up there, in anchorage.
@Ciaran I remember that one. That was an interesting earthquake.
#28

KillerGM

Mar 29, 2009 12:48:57
We had an ash advisory last night. It almost canceled my game, but I made my players show up anyway.

We made Werewolves. :D
#29

half_dragon_infernal

Mar 29, 2009 12:50:20
KGM, update your sig. You leveled in the Edition War
#30

dirtyfrank

Mar 29, 2009 12:53:52
We had an ash advisory last night. It almost canceled my game, but I made my players show up anyway.

That's right, show them who's boss.
#31

KillerGM

Mar 29, 2009 12:56:48
KGM, update your sig. You leveled in the Edition War

Dude, I just got here. Give me a damned minute! :P

PS - Awesome, Level 2!! :D
#32

half_dragon_infernal

Mar 29, 2009 12:57:58
Try L3
#33

KillerGM

Mar 29, 2009 13:02:44
How am I level 3?
#34

dirtyfrank

Mar 29, 2009 13:03:29
Cuz you cool.


I jumped from barely lvl 2 to being lvl 4......while dead.
#35

half_dragon_infernal

Mar 29, 2009 13:03:48
L2 from the free level-up for everybody in the ball, L3 from Battle XP
#36

KillerGM

Mar 29, 2009 13:05:23
Well, sweet!! :D

Oh yeah, I forgot about the Test of Fortitude that I got XP for. That would have bumped me up.

I'll edit the post with it in it. :D
#37

RUMPLESTIX

Mar 29, 2009 13:12:53
I don't know that I have been near a disaster on the national scale but I did sit and watch a tornado from my bedroom. It was about three blocks away and it jumped all over the place.

Here is one of many pics:

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What you cannot see is that behind the building, off the picture and to the right, is the remnants of a gravel commuter parking lot with cars piled on top of each other. That is where my car would have been parked when the tornado came through if I did not have a dentist's appointment that day. Rather than driving in to work instead of riding my transit van I took the whole day off. The tornado came through while many of my coworkers were enroute to that very spot to pick up their cars and drive home. All their cars and trucks were totaled. Since, I have an older car and only keep liability insurance I have a good reason to be thankful for having a check-up that day.
anyway, it was odd to be watching live chopper footage from the national news and realize the chopper was directly above me.
#38

KillerGM

Mar 29, 2009 13:18:28
Yay for dentist appointments! :D
#39

eldritch_lord

Mar 29, 2009 13:21:02
Natural disasters, how I love thee. Or at least it seems that way, since I've seen a whole bunch of them up close and personal.

My dad's in the Army, so we move around a lot, and everywhere we go, fun stuff has happened. Move down to Florida? Yay hurricane! Move out to California? Yay fires! Move to Kansas? Yay tornadoes (and about five feet away from the car, too)! Move to Virginia? Yay earthquake! (Yes, an earthquake in Virginia. Granted, it was a pathetic one, but who's ever heard of earthquakes on the East Coast!?)
#40

roxlimn

Mar 29, 2009 22:11:13
Mount Pinatubo eruption. When that volcano blew its top, it rained mud for days. Rivers turned into sloshing, grinding flows of lahar that carved the land under and around them like they were vast high-powered tractors.

A sizable part of an entire province - many villages and towns were simply obliterated. No trace whatsoever.

From where I was when it happened, the sky turned dark and noontime was as dark as night. Cars and houses crumpled under the heavy load of ash that blanketed everything - and THEN it started raining mud.
#41

KillerGM

Mar 29, 2009 22:17:40
Mount Pinatubo eruption. When that volcano blew its top, it rained mud for days. Rivers turned into sloshing, grinding flows of lahar that carved the land under and around them like they were vast high-powered tractors.

A sizable part of an entire province - many villages and towns were simply obliterated. No trace whatsoever.

From where I was when it happened, the sky turned dark and noontime was as dark as night. Cars and houses crumpled under the heavy load of ash that blanketed everything - and THEN it started raining mud.

Wow, that's crazy! What did you do?
#42

dirtyfrank

Mar 29, 2009 22:19:18
Wow, that's crazy! What did you do?

He lived, obviously. :P
#43

KillerGM

Mar 29, 2009 22:20:46
He lived, obviously. :P

That would be one smart-ass way of responding, yes. Jerk. :P
#44

dirtyfrank

Mar 29, 2009 22:24:57
I know I'm a jerk, but at least I'm not an ass. [emoticon]
#45

KillerGM

Mar 29, 2009 22:26:08
Only because I don't use that kind of language. :P
#46

dirtyfrank

Mar 29, 2009 22:35:28
What kind of language?
#47

KillerGM

Mar 29, 2009 22:38:32
I don't use dirty language. Well, on the boards, at least. :P
#48

dirtyfrank

Mar 29, 2009 22:40:21
I use dirty language but that is because everything becomes dirty once I've used it. ;)
#49

KillerGM

Mar 29, 2009 22:41:00
I know. Just look at this thread!
#50

dirtyfrank

Mar 29, 2009 22:43:31
I know, it's all about Volcano's spewing thing out, or at least it was the threads inspiration. ;)
#51

goblin_pride

Mar 30, 2009 15:13:41
I don't use dirty language. Well, on the boards, at least. :P

There is no such thing as an innately dirty word. The words you perceive as dirty are based on your connotation, not the denotation of the word itself. Words are just words, you make them dirty or clean.

Frank my be a jerk or an ass, but he's dead right. Roxlimn lived, end of story.
#52

dirtyfrank

Mar 30, 2009 15:16:44
There is no such thing as an innately dirty word. The words you perceive as dirty are based on your connotation, not the denotation of the word itself. Words are just words, you make them dirty or clean.

Once I've been around a word then it's hard to wash the filth off of it.

Frank my be a jerk or an ass, but he's dead right. Roxlimn lived, end of story.

I'm a jerk, not an ass.
#53

mock26

Mar 30, 2009 15:21:03
There is no such thing as an innately dirty word. The words you perceive as dirty are based on your connotation, not the denotation of the word itself. Words are just words, you make them dirty or clean.

Frank my be a jerk or an ass, but he's dead right. Roxlimn lived, end of story.

What about the word "dirty"? :D
#54

toastedamphibian

Mar 30, 2009 15:54:28
I'm a jerk, not an ass.

Correct. I am an ass, not a jerk. They are diffrent.
#55

goblin_pride

Mar 30, 2009 16:40:50
I'm a jerk, not an ass.

My apologies, sir. I stand corrected. Although I must say I've never shared that opinion of you.
#56

toastedamphibian

Mar 31, 2009 7:15:28
You've never shared the opinion that dirtyfrank is not an ass?
#57

goblin_pride

Mar 31, 2009 8:17:05
You've never shared the opinion that dirtyfrank is not an ass?

I never thought he was a jerk, either. I can see how he'd be tken that way by the average person, but I've always thought there was a bit more to him than just that surface impression. If I'm giving him too much credit, I'm sure he'll let me know.
#58

toastedamphibian

Mar 31, 2009 8:19:10
So you've always thought that he was, or atleast might be, an ass, but that he was, infact, not a jerk, except superficially?
#59

goblin_pride

Mar 31, 2009 8:21:37
So you've always thought that he was, or atleast might be, an ass, but that he was, infact, not a jerk, except superficially?

Why am I having flashbacks of Shakespeare's "Much Ado About Nothing"?
#60

dirtyfrank

Mar 31, 2009 8:24:31
Well, I can only really be a partial jerk on the forums. If I was a full on jerk then I'd likely have been banned by now.

Of course some people on both the forums and IRL think I'm an angel or something. Of course everyone, no matter how much of an ass they are has someone that thinks they are some kind of nice guy. Maybe I just feel I'm a jerk because I see honesty > niceness and I always see the worst in people and in situations.
#61

toastedamphibian

Mar 31, 2009 8:54:36
No, that would make you an ass. Your crude and disrespectfull sense of humor goes a long way towards making you a jerk.
#62

roxlimn

Mar 31, 2009 11:02:34
KillerGM:

I turned on the lights. ;)

But seriously, our place had a sloping roof, so all we needed to do was hose it down every so often so the ash didn't bury us under. And we kept the cars indoors. Ash is bad for the paintjob.

We didn't live anywhere near the volcano so we weren't in danger from the lahar or anything, but we helped ferry people around during the evacuation. Thousands could have died - Punongbayan's timely prediction and gutsy decision saved tens of thousands.

That alone qualifies him as one of the greatest volcanologists of our time. Not many could have claimed to have a similar acheivement.
#63

doomsought

Mar 31, 2009 11:04:01
Every few years we get some flooding and the basement gets water leakage, that's the worst we've got it, but moving all the furniture to take out the carpet is a pain. Its nasty, heavy and wet taking it up to the driveway to dry and still heavy taking it down.
#64

goblin_pride

Apr 01, 2009 22:13:59
Every few years we get some flooding and the basement gets water leakage, that's the worst we've got it, but moving all the furniture to take out the carpet is a pain. Its nasty, heavy and wet taking it up to the driveway to dry and still heavy taking it down.

To dry? Dude, try taking it to the curb for the garbage men to haul away. And then the couch, the TV, the books in your library, your bed...


The river here in Iowa last year went nineteen feet above it's banks. That's seven feet above the levees designed to prevent flooding. I lived ten city blocks away from the river and it went through my living room, bedroom, kitchen, bathroom et cetera. It's getting close to a year later and I'm still trying to recover from what I lost to it. I feel bad for the people of Fargo right now because I've been there, literally. I even have a cousin that teaches at a university there that I haven't been able to get in touch with.