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#1 mikethemountain Feb 03, 2015 10:54:19	I'll be taking my Human Warlock to at least 3rd level for Pact of the Tome and Book of Ancient Secrets, and then plan on moving to Wild Magic Sorcerer for the rest of his career. I'm trying to decide betwen staying with Warlock for a fourth level to get another feat or ABI (leaving 16 levels in Sorcerer), or moving over to Sorcerer right away, eventually reaching 17 levels in Sorcerer and gaining a 9th level spell slot.   My first instinct was to stick with Warlock and grab either +2 Charisma to max out my primary attack/spell stat, or a feat (probably War Caster or Spell Sniper), that way I get to enjoy the benefit for most of this character's career. Gaining a single level 9 spell slot, at PC level 20 (Sorc 17), it's like building a character around a capstone: sexy on paper, but I'll hardly ever get to use it. Of course, by the time I get to there, who knows what sort of rules for higher-tier play (beyond 20) might be available?   So what do you think? Warlock 4 | Sorcerer 16, or Warlock 3 | Sorcerer 17?
#2 mellored Feb 03, 2015 11:04:27	I guess the question is do you want more burst (more spell points for quickened eldrich blast, higher level sorcerer spells), or do you want more consistant damage (+2 cha).   I'll toss out inspiring leader as another good choice.
#3 Timborama Feb 03, 2015 12:45:18	Also worth mentioning: How likely are you to even get to level 20?   Sure the Druid level 20 capstone is amaze-balls. But if a dip at level 5 helps me now, and I'm only likely to get to level 12...
#4 Bloodscythe Feb 03, 2015 13:55:03	Does the character need 1 more ABI?  You could always stumble upon a magical tome that boosts your stat by 2.  Is there a 9th lvl spell you want your character to be able to cast?   I would say access to Gate, Meteor Swarm, or Wish more than outweighs +2 to cha or a feat.  It's a nonissue though if you don't usually play to lvl 20.
#5 mikethemountain Feb 03, 2015 14:04:08	Yeah, it’s the significantly low odds of ever actually reaching level 20 in a home game, let alone spending much time there, that makes me hesitate optimizing around that point. Not that missing a single feat/ABI totally gimps the character, but if we actually make it to the endgame and don’t have Wish, I know I’ll be kicking myself.
#6 Yunru Feb 03, 2015 16:15:43	The question is: How quickly do you want your wings?
(Reply to #6) QwertyAzerty	Yunru wrote:
#8 Timborama Feb 04, 2015 10:37:16	Good points, Qwerty. And worth mentioning that if that start out at, say, level 3 or 4, that can be taken into account, too! Since Level 2 spells are still "new" at that point, it's not too bad holding onto them for a few extra sessions!