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#1 Andre82 Sep 13, 2014 1:31:01	I judge a RPG by how well you can build concepts as PC's and how well those PC's perform. 5th looks wonderful but I have concerns. So if it is not to much of a bother, could someone show me how to build someone That is lv10 Has light or med armor. Cast magic with a dark/vampire flavor. Uses a Longsword Is at least as optimaized as a cookie cutter build of any class. Can't have any glering simple to fill improvments like "pick up a shield and be better" but trade offs are ok. I would really hope this can simple be done.
#2 Novacat Sep 13, 2014 1:43:18	The criteria you've listed can be fulfilled by a basic Fighter/Warlock (Dueler-FiendBlade?) character, but that won't get you Sorin Markov. Planeswalkers are being of power beyond the scope of D&D. They would be gods, or perhaps demigods, in a typical D&D setting.
#3 Andre82 Sep 13, 2014 2:13:14	I don't really want the planswalker so much as I want the basic concept and look.
#4 Diffan Sep 13, 2014 4:39:14	I have a homebrewed Blood Knight sub-path for the Fighter that would probably fit his theme very nicely. When he kills targets, he gain Temp HP = to the creature's Hit Die (this a 4 hit die creature gives you 4 temp HP), he gets benefits to grappling foes.(and subsequently "biting them"), get a Champion feature (Survivor, I think) and can turn into a Bat or Wolf as a Druid's wild shape of equal level. EDIT: I posted it over on Candlekeep, found HERE
#5 Yag007 Sep 13, 2014 8:54:50	Andre82 wrote:
#6 Sorxores Sep 13, 2014 10:31:26	Andre82 wrote:
#7 reddaemon Sep 13, 2014 14:00:36	You don't need to multiclass at all.  Your concept works with 10 straight levels of Warlock.   -Warlocks are proficient in light armor (but you could take the invocation that grants you Mage Armor at will and not even have to wear armor) - Pact Blade Warlock will give you proficiency with Longsword. - Great Old One is the best feature across any class that reflects Sorin.  The bonus spells Great Old One grants such as Dissonant Whispers, Detect Thoughts, and Dominate Person all fit Soring Markov perfectly. - Take Thirsting Blade to be on par with martials for attacks per round with your Longsword, and Lifedrinker at level 12 to add your CHA modifier to damage with it - Take Sign of Ill Omen to gain Bestow Curse - For Mystic Arcanum take these spells when you gain the appropriate level: 6th - Mass Suggestion, 7th - Finger of Death, 8th - Dominate Monster, 9th - Whatever you want   Some other builds presented in this thread will not give you the ability to cast Dominate Person.  This is pretty much a required spell to have.  If you cannot dominate people, sorry, you aren't playing Sorin.  For spells make sure to take mostly enchantment and necromancy spells such as Charm Person, Suggestion, Ray of Enfeeblement, Vampiric Touch, etc...   If you are looking for the build that most closely represents Sorin Markov, a level 10 Blade Pact Warlock with Great Old One patron is the best you are going to get.  Look no further than the level 14 Great Old One feature.
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#11 spanglemaker Sep 14, 2014 0:11:10	Level 12 Warlock, Pact of Blade with either Archfey or Great Old One.   Invocations- Thirsting Blade, Life Drinker, Devils Sight, Ascendant Step, plus 2 invocations of your choice   GOO's Create Thrall requires the victim to be incapacitated ( drained?) and is probably the best fit.   Whereas the Archfey has: Misty Teleport, AoE Charm/Fear, Dark Delerium ( a potent Charm/Fear ) plus Greater Invisibility, Sleep   Both have Dominate Person and Dominate Beast   Archfey are not necessarily all sweetness and light, some of the Unseelie could be considered more evil and more alien than a GOO. Whereas some GOO may even be considered friendly, they may even love their pets.
#12 Andre82 Sep 14, 2014 2:17:45	Ok so this looks really promising. I guess I will go pick up the books after all.
#13 Steeldoom Sep 14, 2014 7:14:04	While the warlock works great, I can't help but see Sorin as a necromancer first and a vampire second (I'm not a hardcore Magic Player). You can play any class and get the bite thing happing later. Playing a Wizard necromancer fits the bill nicely I think with a level or two or warlock or fighter for armour and weapon profficencies. You could even take Rogue to get double profficiency in Stealth which is very cool.   I would build straight necromancer and either: Pick up the feat Feat Lightly Armoured and Weapon Master (giving light armour and 4 weapon profficiencies) Or High Elf (giving longsword use) and both light and medium armor use feats.   Level 10 necromancers get Grim Harvest: hit points when you kill with spells Undead Thralls: better undead, more hit points and better damage Inured to undeath: resistance to necrotic damage (counter spells versus black spells, lol) and undead can't drain your hit points.   If I wanted a more fightery Sorin (lets face it, the picture is more this), then Elderitch Knight and ask the DM to tailor your spell list around this concept.
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#15 Steeldoom Sep 14, 2014 16:48:30	I'm liking 5e so far, can't wait to DM and play it more.
#16 spanglemaker Sep 14, 2014 22:52:46	The Warlock is the easiest way, but a Necromancer Eldritch Knight would work.   Fighter 10 (Eldritch Knight), Wizard 10 (Necromancer)   But any mix really   I prefer the Warlock, but an Eldritch Warlock could be pretty interesting, Chain or Book pact with an Eldritch Sword.