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#1 mrsrockguru Jan 21, 2015 17:58:39	Ok peeps, question came to mind, if a druid wild shapes into a Giant Frog and swallows a - lets say a Gobiln, what happens to said creature when he changes back once it is in the stomach of the Frog.
#2 Llenlleawg Jan 22, 2015 0:39:16	My suggestion? If the goblin (or whatever) is still alive, then it appears within 5' of the druid. In other words, treat it as you would when a wall spell is cast in a space a creaure occupies, or other analogous cases. In short, don't penalize the druid or make it an easy way to auto-kill PCs or monsters transformed into things that swallow other things whole.
#3 Noon Jan 22, 2015 0:58:48	This thread makes me want to throw up! (that's a joke about what happens! )
#4 mellored Jan 22, 2015 7:48:07	Llenlleawg wrote:
#5 Noctaem Jan 22, 2015 7:57:57	mellored wrote:
#6 iserith Jan 22, 2015 8:31:16	Swallow. The frog makes one bite attack against a Small or smaller target it is grappling. If the attack hits, the target is swallowed, and the grapple ends. The swallowed target is blinded and restrained, it has total cover against attacks and other effects outside the frog, and it takes 5 (2d4) acid damage at the start of each of the frog's turns. The frog can have only one target swallowed at a time. If the frog dies, a swallowed creature is no longer restrained by it and can escape from the corpse using 5 feet of movement, exiting prone.
(Reply to #6) 7he_professor	iserith wrote:
#8 iserith Jan 22, 2015 9:04:51	[quote="7he_professor"]That is an incredibly convoluted means to handle the situation, but I'm sure it won't occur often, so I say go for it!{/quote] That was basically my thinking on the matter.
#9 BRJN Jan 22, 2015 18:36:39	Another option would be that the Druid is stuck in Frog form until he has some time to digest the meal (an hour?). But his Swallow attack doesn't work while wild shape is 'on overtime'. Also keep in mind that a Swallowed creature can try to cut its way out what swallowed them (this inflicts damage and ignores AC) - which might discourage the Druid from doing it again. I think the T-Rex entry in MM has a discussion of this. Pre-planning: I can see a Druid changing into an Giant Frog, setting up in 10 ft of water with only his eyeballs showing above the surface, grabbing a passing enemy with his tongue, diving, and trying to Swallow the enemy while underwater. This would be an awe-inspiring (and rather rough-on-the-stomach) lead-in for a BBEG fight.
#10 Barimen Jan 23, 2015 13:13:37	7he_professor wrote:
#11 draegn Jan 24, 2015 6:57:42	BRJN wrote:
#12 ShinQuickMan Jan 24, 2015 16:47:25	Now, I'm no expert in amphibian biology, but I'd guess that toads at least have some sort of reflex that allows them to part with harmful or nondigestible objects (or "guests") without having it sit in their belly for a few hours.

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mrsrockguru

Jan 21, 2015 17:58:39

Ok peeps, question came to mind, if a druid wild shapes into a Giant Frog and swallows a - lets say a Gobiln, what happens to said creature when he changes back once it is in the stomach of the Frog.

Llenlleawg

Jan 22, 2015 0:39:16

My suggestion? If the goblin (or whatever) is still alive, then it appears within 5' of the druid. In other words, treat it as you would when a wall spell is cast in a space a creaure occupies, or other analogous cases. In short, don't penalize the druid or make it an easy way to auto-kill PCs or monsters transformed into things that swallow other things whole.

Noon

Jan 22, 2015 0:58:48

This thread makes me want to throw up!

(that's a joke about what happens! )

mellored

Jan 22, 2015 7:48:07

Llenlleawg wrote:

Noctaem

Jan 22, 2015 7:57:57

mellored wrote:

iserith

Jan 22, 2015 8:31:16

Swallow. The frog makes one bite attack against a Small or smaller target it is grappling. If the attack hits, the target is swallowed, and the grapple ends. The swallowed target is blinded and restrained, it has total cover against attacks and other effects outside the frog, and it takes 5 (2d4) acid damage at the start of each of the frog's turns. The frog can have only one target swallowed at a time.

If the frog dies, a swallowed creature is no longer restrained by it and can escape from the corpse using 5 feet of movement, exiting prone.

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7he_professor

iserith wrote:

iserith

Jan 22, 2015 9:04:51

[quote="7he_professor"]That is an incredibly convoluted means to handle the situation, but I'm sure it won't occur often, so I say go for it!{/quote]

That was basically my thinking on the matter.

BRJN

Jan 22, 2015 18:36:39

Another option would be that the Druid is stuck in Frog form until he has some time to digest the meal (an hour?). But his Swallow attack doesn't work while wild shape is 'on overtime'.

Also keep in mind that a Swallowed creature can try to cut its way out what swallowed them (this inflicts damage and ignores AC) - which might discourage the Druid from doing it again.

I think the T-Rex entry in MM has a discussion of this.

Pre-planning: I can see a Druid changing into an Giant Frog, setting up in 10 ft of water with only his eyeballs showing above the surface, grabbing a passing enemy with his tongue, diving, and trying to Swallow the enemy while underwater. This would be an awe-inspiring (and rather rough-on-the-stomach) lead-in for a BBEG fight.

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Barimen

Jan 23, 2015 13:13:37

7he_professor wrote:

#11

draegn

Jan 24, 2015 6:57:42

BRJN wrote:

#12

ShinQuickMan

Jan 24, 2015 16:47:25

Now, I'm no expert in amphibian biology, but I'd guess that toads at least have some sort of reflex that allows them to part with harmful or nondigestible objects (or "guests") without having it sit in their belly for a few hours.