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| #1KurgagSep 19, 2014 0:25:19 | Hi,
I often read that EK are not so good, If you think so, I hope this build will change your mind.
EK GWF build
Purpose of the build: Going EK with a GWF is a way to fix one of his weakness : low AC and bad dmg mitigation in general, you will loose in dpr compared to a true GWF Half-Orc Champion but you will be more tanky and useful for your party.
Race: Human Progression Cast Haste and Fire Shield asap in dangerous fights. Choose when to use your shield spell wisely (never use it to early in a fight - except on big dangerous hits -). If at the end of the day you have some spell slots left, just identify/alarm/Leomund's tiny hut/Arcane Lock/Continual flame/Remove curse/Magic circle/Mordenkainen's Private Sanctum before you go to sleep.
How to manage your OA
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| #2LlenlleawgSep 19, 2014 1:12:47 | That looks pretty good. To be sure, I don't like multiclassing, and will probably not allow it as a DM (it's optional, after all!), nor feats, at least for now. From that point of view, Eldritch Knight is a fairly obvious choice for someone who wants both to fight and wield arcane magic.
By the way, had you used the standard array, the initiat stats could have been Str 16, Dex 13, Con 14, Int 15, Wis 11, Cha 9. |
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| #4KurgagSep 19, 2014 3:22:32 | Variant: EK Defender build (based on the EK GWF Build)
Purpose of the build: To tank by maxing your AC and OA stickiness.
Race: Same as above Starting Abilities: Same as above weapon: any d8 STR weapon Armor: Heavy + Shield
Progression same with the following changes: lvl1: Take defender style instead of GWF style, take Sentinel feat instead of GWM feat Lvl3: Take Shocking Grasp instead of True strike lvl10: Take True Strike instead of Shocking Grasp.
How to manage Spells same with the following changes: 4th lvl spell slot is reserved for Fire Shield and Dimension door. Your high AC won't let Fire Shield proc as often as with the EK GWF build. Cast Haste asap in dangerous fights. Cast fire Shield only against foes with high attack bonus or when you are facing great numbers.
AC without any magic item, this the purpose of this build, AC is your main mitigation value and you can reach the highest AC in the game:
How to manage your OA changes Sentinel add the 0 movement and a new trigger to your OAs. Just be careful not to use OA when you are low life, you need your reaction to use shield.
Party synergies
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| #5SorxoresSep 19, 2014 4:32:39 | you need one hand to cast your spell, and you need 2 hand to SWING your two handed weapon, not to hold it. you also have a "free intereaction with your environment" where you could plant your weapon in the ground cast your spell then grab it again.
So you can swing your weapon with 2 hand for your action, then for your bonus action you can HOLD your weapon with one hand, and cast with your newly free hand, then grab your weapon with 2 hand again no need of warcaster for this (still useful for advantage on concentration). |
| #6NightSteelSep 19, 2014 9:54:16 |
I would switch our your 4th level spell for Banishment, giving you more control over an encounter. I would probably also switch haste back a notch and use it for close encounters that your party has difficulties to handle, instead saving up the counterspell slots. It's not flashy, but you will probably feel good knowing that Fireball did not hit your party for 8d6 per party member because of YOU, freeing up valuable resources. Preemptive damage prevention adds up in numbers, too.
Apart from that, most of the things you wrote are the things I detailed in my blog as well, but you beat me to the forum post, mate
If you follow these steps, you will have a good general idea of how this class should work, it's a very viable skeleton to build your character on.
I actually look forward to seeing this class evolve and adjust as new content is published by WotC and more flavor becomes available to build your characters with.
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| #11NightSteelSep 20, 2014 7:59:24 |
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| #12KurgagSep 20, 2014 11:09:07 |
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