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#1 HermanTheWize Jun 12, 2015 6:04:06	I want help finding the right progression and combinations of classes. I will most likely be starting somewhere between level 3-5.   I want 3 levels of Rogue, for assinate and expertise..etc.. I want Archery fighting style. A second attack, so I have better odds to land sneak attack. Will probably get sharpshooter, so anythingthat can help midigate the loss to hit would help. A non terrible melee back-up in a worst case scenario situation.
#2 mellored Jun 12, 2015 6:45:15	Either ranger 5 or fighter 5, and assassin 3.  Depending on weather you want spells or action surge.   Crossbow expertise will work in melee.  So will shortswords.
#3 Yunru Jun 12, 2015 6:49:34	Fighter 1/Rogue X with Crossbow Expert. Melee's covered, two attacks is covered, Archery fighting style is covered. Don't take Sharpshooter unless it's for the ignoring cover. Seriously. With Sneak Attack it's not worth it.
#4 Noctaem Jun 12, 2015 7:07:02	Yunru wrote:
#5 Yunru Jun 12, 2015 7:08:52	More sneak attack? IDK, but given he's starting between levels 3 and 5 and want's assassination, Fighter 1/Rogue 3/Fighter 2 would be my revised opinion.
#6 Noctaem Jun 12, 2015 7:12:16	Fighter 2/rogue 3?
#7 HermanTheWize Jun 12, 2015 7:19:50	The reason for sharpshooter would be reliable sniping and also the backup damage. Probably going to be using longbow.   Think I want 11 levels in fighter and 7 levels in rogue
#8 jaappleton Jun 12, 2015 7:15:44	What part of "between levels 3 and 5" are people missing?
#9 mellored Jun 12, 2015 7:18:48	I wouldn't worry about the level 20 when your starting at level 3-5.   Fighter does more damage and more HP. Rogue adds skills. Ranger adds spells.
(Reply to #9) HermanTheWize	mellored wrote:
#11 HermanTheWize Jun 12, 2015 7:26:28	I agree with Mello either Ranger or Fighter 5 and rogue 3. Definatly gonna get to Rogue 7 though, if I reach that point, but probably no more.     Now it's just do I want spells and clossuses slayer or battlemaster maunevers and action surge.
#12 shintashi Jun 12, 2015 7:55:16	My Archer is ok, Ranger/ Rogue / Cleric; and basically, what I took was a good bow, some bracers, and lots of dex. I took that thing that gives bonus damage when an enemy is already injured. Hail of Thorns or Hunter's Mark. Two attacks don't give you two backstab attempts. Sneak attack is for one attack and you have to have circumstances where it works. You would think that's a lot, but it isn't as often as you might think.   5e critical structure is going to favor rogue sneak dice more than the archery feat, but the archery feat can be used even when you don't have permission to sneak attack. I probably clear between 40 and 60 per round, not sure if that's good or bad, but for what it's worth, I hit AC between 25 and 30+ 90% of the time, out to 600 feet.
#13 HermanTheWize Jun 12, 2015 8:13:34	Has anyone went a straight fighter archer, what's your guys experience with that?
#14 mellored Jun 12, 2015 8:15:02	HermanTheWize wrote:
(Reply to #14) HermanTheWize	mellored wrote:
#16 Yunru Jun 12, 2015 8:24:32	EK with Hex can be great fun.
(Reply to #16) HermanTheWize	Yunru wrote:
#18 dbsquirl Jun 12, 2015 9:44:50	Human Fighter 2/Rogue 3 with Crossbow Expert will have the Fighting Style, Assassinate, two attacks, and an Action Surge that you could use during the Assassinate window. Straight Figher archers are solid, because a lot of the Battlemaster abilities are usable at range. A good Precision Attack roll can make sure you stick the Sharpshooter damage even with the penalty. The extra ASI's means you can pick up stuff like Sharpshooter a little easier while still bumping Dex. Ranger 2/Rogue 3 isn't particularly interesting, though you'll still have the Fighting Style and Assassinate. But you will get Hunters Mark, and once you get Ranger 3 picking up Colossus Slayer will add some damage to your second hit in the Assasinate window. Any one of these can wield a rapier/shortsword in melee and not be terrible with it. Crossbow Expert requires a free hand for reloading now, so you'd be one handing the hand crossbow anyways (or just shooting them point blank), letting you draw a melee weapon when you need it. You also only need two hands to USE a longbow, but you can hold it with one, again letting you draw a melee weapon without needing to drop your ranged one.
#19 drizzt_zylo Jun 12, 2015 17:20:00	There is a decent build somewhere on these boards that claims it makes a better ranger than a ranger that uses all three of those classes for exactly the same reasons mentioned action surge cunning action skills archery spells battle master maneuvers you may want to look it up.