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#1 JS20 Mar 01, 2015 6:24:52	I'm building a level 4 rogue with first 3 levels Rogue/Arcane Trickster (High Elf, so 4 cantrips) and then multiclassing into wizard at level 4.   I have a few questions:   First level wizards get a spellbook with 6 spells, so now my rogue has the same, correct? Do the wizards 3 cantrips gets added to my 4 giving me a total of 7 cantrips?   With an intelligence of 16, a level 1 wizard can prepare 4 spells.   So is this correct?: My rogue would know 7 cantrips. 3 Arcane Trickster spells known. A spellbook with 6 wizard spells of my choice in it. 4 prepared wizard spells, bringing total prepared spells to 7. 3 level 1 spell slots that can be used on any of these spells?   Also, arcane recovery which would allow me to recover 1 level one spell slot once/day. Plus, he's a ritual caster now.   Is all of this correct? It seems almost too good to be true, considering I still have sneak attack, skills, etc.
#2 spanglemaker Mar 01, 2015 23:03:15	You would get the 7 Cantrips known, 3 from Arcane Trickster(AT), 3 from Wizard and 1 from being a High Elf.   Your AT knows 3 (1st level) spells (2 of which are Illusion or Enchantment spells). (Casts spontaneously, does not prepare spells)   Your Wizard Spellbook will contain 6 spells of your choice (1st Level) You prepared Wizard Spells are your Wizard Level (1 in your example) plus your Intelligence Modifer, so as you have Intelligence 16, the Modifer is +3 so 4 prepared Wizard Spells.   Yes, you are correct.     Now if you were a 3rd level Wizard with a level of Rogue. 4 Cantrips known You would have a Wizards Spellbook, with 8 spells of the 1st Level and 2 spells of 2nd Level. Prepare 6 spells total  of 1st and 2nd level 4 level 1 slots and 2 level 2 slots   An Arcane Tradition    Obviously this Wizards Mage Hand is the standard D&D glowing hand, rather than the AT invisible Mage Hand But one is more powerful magically ( Wizard who dabbles in sneaking) the other is super versatile and sneaky ( a Rogue who may be an Expert in Arcana).   Multiclassing adds plenty of options.
#3 supreme_slayer Mar 01, 2015 16:26:46	I don't think arcane tricksters prepare spells, do they? They just know the spells and can cast them. Either way, you prepare spells for each class separately, even if they derive their spells from the same list. So you wouldn't get 7 wizard spells prepared, you would get 4 wizard spells prepared and 3 "arcane trickster " spells you can cast from. They don't dip into each other's spells known.