Making a roguish healer

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#1

akaddk

Nov 04, 2014 18:12:17

I really love the idea of a battle healer using the Healer feat. I'm trying to come up with a character concept that embraces this but it kinda falls down on the basis that a rogue isn't a healer and so that becomes his only defining characteristic (using the Healer feat) to mark him as a battle healer.

 

So I was thinking of multi-classing as some type of caster with healing spells. That brings with it all sorts of issues though, not just mechanically but conceptually. I'm trying to somehow reconcile being a rogue/caster to suit the concept of one but everything I think of doesn't quite work out and feels forced. Ideally I'd want the multi-classing to be something that doesn't even come up but rather merges within the concept of the character as if it were one class. So he wasn't "once a rogue who then became a bard" but was always simply "the character" but I have to represent it this way mechanically.

 

Currently I'm leaning towards rogue/bard because Inspiring Leader is also something I'm interested with for this character.

#2

IxidorRS

Nov 04, 2014 18:30:31

Bard is likely easiest to merge with Rogue as far as your typical backstory/archetypes. 

 

Inspiring Leader is super-neat.

#3

cowleymen

Nov 04, 2014 19:04:40

just going straight up bard might be easier. you can easily pick up thieves tools with backgrounds.

#4

akaddk

Nov 04, 2014 19:06:23

cowleymen wrote:
#5

mellored

Nov 04, 2014 19:10:06

Thief can use the healer feat as a bonus action.

#6

FrogReaver

Nov 04, 2014 19:13:35

Rogue battle master fighter could work. Use superiority dice for temp hp. 

 

You don't get heal spells but if be a full martial class (go dex and charisma)

 

Play as a soldier more focused on keeping allies alive

#7

FrogReaver

Nov 04, 2014 19:17:35

Could a dex based rogue paladin work?

#8

cowleymen

Nov 04, 2014 19:22:18

that would be a very MAD combination. Would require 13's in Str Dex and Cha. Would fit concept very well though, Best weapon for build would be the rapier. Use str or dex, and still have Sneak Attack damage

#9

Litania84it

Nov 04, 2014 19:54:20

I'm working on a thief/trickery cleric. Maybe Waukeen as a patron. Sort of a holy tomb raider for the rich temple, who both spies on the enemies of the faith and is tasked with "recuperating" relics. Lots of synergy too, with "silence" and illusory duplicates.

#10

Elfcrusher

Nov 04, 2014 20:10:51

Life Cleric/Thief with Healer, add some Monk levels for mobility and AC?

#11

Nevvur

Nov 04, 2014 20:51:31

Assuming you aren't playing AL, you could also talk with your DM about creating a new rogue archetype. I've learned from personal experience -- both posting my own, and reading others' here -- that it's a tricky balancing act, creating something that fits your ideal without becoming overpowered. If you go this route, feel free to post your ideas and be open to the feedback the players and DMs around here might suggest. 

#12

akaddk

Nov 04, 2014 22:25:23

Nevvur wrote:
(Reply to #8)

FrogReaver

cowleymen wrote:
#14

OrwellianHaggis

Nov 05, 2014 0:11:57
I'd also suggest rogue/paladin. You could fluff it that the character has no religious leanings but he still has healing hands (so, he doesn't have faith in the gods, but a god certainly has faith in him).
#15

akaddk

Nov 05, 2014 2:16:46

Hmm, I think I've finally nailed a concept. "Fumbles" the Physician was a student of anatomy at a prestigious academy of sciences and medicines. His "mistakes" were actually him trying to further his knowledge by deviating from his teacher's instructions. This insubordination earned him low ranks and the ridicule of his peers however it also attracted the attentions of a necromancer who enlisted his skills to help build a small army of undead. When his part in the necromancer's plot was uncovered, he was banished from the school and blacklisted as a student or apprentice to anyone, anywhere.

 

The skills he learned under the tutelage of the necromancer, however, were more than enough for him to go on the road and peddle his snake oils in order to help him finance his further studies in secret. He would often purchase fresh corpses from unscrupulous grave diggers and test out his theories on poisons, herbal concoctions, alchemy and magic on the unwilling dead. It was through these nefarious connections and questionable experiments that he came into contact with a Zhentarim recruiter. Seeing an opportunity to gain fortune and ignominy, he decided to work for the Zhentarim and thus found his way to Phlan where he now works in secret not only for himself but for his Zhent masters.

 

Just for the record, this guy is starting at 4th-level (3 rogue/1 bard) from DM XP running AL games

 

#16

akaddk

Nov 05, 2014 4:19:29

For your viewing pleasure: Fumbles the Barber.

#17

Varisthenes

Nov 05, 2014 8:30:29

I've also been thinking about the rogue/healer as a concept.  I really like the necromancy angle you came up with and may do a similar background if I go rogue/healer.  Breaking into crypts to steal bodies for the sake of science!