Monk/Druid AC question

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#1

Lharn

Sep 12, 2014 7:13:43

If a wildshaped creature has natural armor, would monk's unarmored defense still function?

 

How exactly is natural armor calculated for creatures- I can't seem to find any method to it.

#2

furious_kender

Sep 12, 2014 7:19:44

I believe you get to choose between the listed AC for the creature or 10+creatures dex+your wisdom.

 

The only thing I know doesn't work is that you cannot simply add your wisdom onto the creatures listed AC, as unarmored defense does not include natural armor in its AC calculation.

 

#3

1eejit

Sep 12, 2014 7:40:40

That's if your DM even allows Unarmored Defense for wild shapes. Which is totally his call, as he or she must intepret the following:

 

You retain the benefit of any features from your class, race, or other source and can use them if the new form is physically capable of doing so.

 

And whether that line can override: 

 

Your game statistics are replaced by the statistics of the beast,

 

Very much requires a ruling from table to table unless errata clears it up.

#4

Kentus

Sep 12, 2014 7:41:13

As long your DM thinks that the animal is able to benefit from Unarmored Defense, you can choose between these two. If for some reasons your DM says, that a particular wild shape doesn't benefit (like a Mammoth), it doesn't. Check PHB p.67 about class features. ;)

#5

Yunru

Sep 12, 2014 7:49:09

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Polaris

Sep 12, 2014 7:51:46

I don't see why you wouldn't keep your Monk Unarmored Defense.  You keep your class abilities when wildshaped (sans spellcasting) and you aren't wearing armor.  That said, they wouldn't stack.  You'd pick the better AC from Natural Armor or Monk's unarmored defense.

 

-Polaris

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1eejit

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#8

Yunru

Sep 12, 2014 8:17:15

Yes "all your statistics" vs "your AC is[..]" is so hard to work out which is more specific.

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furious_kender

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1eejit

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#11

Yunru

Sep 12, 2014 8:48:27

No they're not. One is all stats, and one is just AC therefore just AC is more specific because it refers to a specific stat as apposed to all stats in general.

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1eejit

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