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#1 Brazensnow Oct 26, 2014 18:50:27	I'm the 3rd guy in our party, which includes a dwarf Ranger and a Paladin, I thinking about rolling a magic user but having trouble decide which one.... any advice would be greatly appreciated... in creating a character that doesn't draw by party members with me!
#2 cowleymen Oct 26, 2014 19:02:04	Bard will give you a lot of possible utility to a small party. Ask if the paladin is going to be taking their healing spells as well. Wizard will get the you MOST utility, though you lose access to healing spells going that route. Cleric or druid will also give you good choices in a small party. A Moon druid will get better combat wildshapes, and can still use healing magic when not transformed. A war cleric would be a strong choose, letting you wear heavy or medium armor, get healing spells, and some good combat utility.
#3 tallric_kruush Oct 26, 2014 19:41:34	Cleric seems like a good option in a small party. You'd be durable and versatile.
#4 Brazensnow Oct 27, 2014 3:41:25	Thanks for the ideas, I have come up with three character concepts, first a Half elf warlock, but decided it was kinda weak somehow... then I considered a Half Moon Elf/ Half Drow ( yes I read the cutter comics recently wizard, last a storm domain cleric... But they asked me to create a sneaky type, I don't think there's a class that cover sneak heavy range damage and control...
#5 Yunru Oct 27, 2014 3:55:57	No there isn't, most you could do is prioritise control and take a minor in sneak, or prioritise sneaky damage and take a minor in control. You shouldn't need to do massive damage with a Paladin in the party though. If you sideline sneak to "something I'm good at", I'd suggest dragon Sorcerer. Train in stealth and boost Dex after Cha. You'll be sneaky (subtle spell, high dex) and can work as a face. Of course it also comes with the benefit of not relying upon physical stuff (except spells that require material components).
#6 slumgum Oct 27, 2014 4:08:35	Brazensnow wrote:
#7 OrwellianHaggis Oct 27, 2014 6:16:26	How about a character with primarily barbarian levels, with some rogue (arcane trickster) for spellcasting utility and the ability to sneak? Enter a rage from hiding, charge out and do extra rage damage, combined with sneak attack damage, and don't worry about getting hurt because you'd have your rage damage resistance and a high natural AC from a high DEX (from rogue), high CON and unarmoured defence (from barbarian).   Although, not having the PHB on me, I can't say if rage and sneak attack would gel. One might be STR based, one is definitely DEX based. Perhaps two-weapon fighting might work that way: a main STR based attack followed by a bonus action short sword attack.
(Reply to #4) Timborama	Brazensnow wrote:
(Reply to #7) Timborama	OrwellianHaggis wrote:
#10 Theros Oct 27, 2014 11:58:19	Why multiclass at all? The DC’s for sneaking around are pretty low in 5e. Theoretically any class not wearing heavy armor can sneak just fine with 14 dex and proficiency with the stealth skill. (70% success rate with DC 10) With only 3 players I suggest a front line fighter type, especially if the Ranger is ranged.  Barbarian or Cleric are good choices. You’ll need another meat shield in the thick of combat otherwise the paladin is going to get swarmed. Rogue might be ok, but it doesn’t have the sustain that the Barb or Cleric have. In any case I would avoid multi-classing. With only a three man team your going to need every character firing on all cylinders at every level. There’s no need for a magic user in 5e.
#11 Corran21 Oct 27, 2014 12:03:36	Theros wrote:
#12 Yunru Oct 27, 2014 12:10:32	Actually I'd suggest starting Barbarian for the first level and then going Fighter. Stick to Finese weapons and Dexterity. I'd suggest variant Human with Crossbow Expert so delaying Extra Attack has less of an effect. Start with a 16 in Dex and Con and you've better than any light armor.
#13 Yunru Oct 27, 2014 12:16:31	After all that I forgot my reasoning: Crossbow Expert to bring the pain. Due to smaller group size focus fire is going to be more of a thing so some good AC to stop the enemies doing the same.
#14 Theros Oct 27, 2014 14:22:11	Yunru wrote:
(Reply to #4) Ashrym	Brazensnow wrote: