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#1 butwhatwemake Feb 02, 2015 3:45:14	Do people still say PEACH? The Paladin has always been my all-time favorite class/archetype/concept in fantasy games. Here's an idea I've been kicking around for an upcoming game. I'm not as worried about blank white room "optimization" as I am about actual in-game functionality "optimization." Human Paladin (Vengeance) 11/Cleric (War) 9 Great Weapon Master, Resilient Con, +4 STR, +2 WIS STR 16 (20) DEX 8 CON 12 (13) INT 8 WIS 16 (18) CHA 13 MAGIC Compared to a 20th level pure Pally, I'll have an extra 6th and 7th level slot for upcasting, and access to a pretty awesome spell list. Example: Prepared Cleric Spells: Divine Favor, Shield of Faith, Magic Weapon, Bless, Protection From Energy, Death Ward, Sanctuary, Crusader's Mantle, Spirit Guardians, Freedom of Movement, Stoneskin, Spiritual Weapon, Contagion, Dispel Magic, Flame Strike, Banishment, Hold Person, Hold Monster, Healing Word, Mass Healing Word, Greater Restoration, Mass Cure Wounds, Raise Dead Prepared Paladin Spells: Find Steed, Elemental Weapon, Hunter's Mark, Misty Step, Haste, Bane, Lesser Restoration, Remove Curse, Revivify, Aura of Vitality
#2 mellored Feb 02, 2015 5:29:50	1: You get +2d8 on divine strike when you reach 14th level (total). So +3d8 on the first attack, +1d8 on all others. 2: Be careful of channel divinity overlapping. Advantage and +10's are use the same resource. 3: I recommend revivify. If you need raise dead, you can swap durring your next rest. And in general, keep open to swaping cleric spells. Otherwise, it's a pretty solid.
#3 butwhatwemake Feb 02, 2015 6:17:16	1. I definitely thought the Divine Strike improvement was class based and not level based, but it's not on the progression table, so I think you're right, thank you. 2. I actually was curious about how CDs work in 5th now, especially from multiple sources. Paladin says you get a Channel Divinity, you can use it for these things, Cleric says you get a Channel Divinity, you can use it for these things, you can use it more often when you're higher level. Hold over from 4E think would make me assume it's one resource with multiple uses, however reading the entries plainly, with no preconceptions makes me think they are two completely seperate instances of Channel Divinity, tracked seperately. Nothing in the multiclass rules seems to contradict this. Why do you think it's the same resource? In any case I don't think I'll get the three uses of the Cleric side of CD, since it's on the Cleric Progression table, whereas something like the improvement to Divine Strike is not. 3.I definitely pack Revivify from the time I can start casting it, I just eventually switch it to a Paladin preparation since it's not stat dependant. 4. Any other tips or suggestions?
#4 mellored Feb 02, 2015 6:57:46	butwhatwemake wrote:
#5 butwhatwemake Feb 02, 2015 7:09:42	O yeah definitely, you're right, the as-needed spell list versatility is a really strong selling point, I wouldn't pack Raise all the time, just up there as a place holder and an example that I have access to it. mellored wrote:

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butwhatwemake

Feb 02, 2015 3:45:14

Do people still say PEACH?

The Paladin has always been my all-time favorite class/archetype/concept in fantasy games. Here's an idea I've been kicking around for an upcoming game. I'm not as worried about blank white room "optimization" as I am about actual in-game functionality "optimization."

Human Paladin (Vengeance) 11/Cleric (War) 9

Great Weapon Master, Resilient Con, +4 STR, +2 WIS
STR 16 (20)

DEX 8

CON 12 (13)
INT 8
WIS 16 (18)

CHA 13

MAGIC

Compared to a 20th level pure Pally, I'll have an extra 6th and 7th level slot for upcasting, and access to a pretty awesome spell list. Example:
Prepared Cleric Spells: Divine Favor, Shield of Faith, Magic Weapon, Bless, Protection From Energy, Death Ward, Sanctuary, Crusader's Mantle, Spirit Guardians, Freedom of Movement, Stoneskin, Spiritual Weapon, Contagion, Dispel Magic, Flame Strike, Banishment, Hold Person, Hold Monster, Healing Word, Mass Healing Word, Greater Restoration, Mass Cure Wounds, Raise Dead
Prepared Paladin Spells: Find Steed, Elemental Weapon, Hunter's Mark, Misty Step, Haste, Bane, Lesser Restoration, Remove Curse, Revivify, Aura of Vitality

mellored

Feb 02, 2015 5:29:50

1: You get +2d8 on divine strike when you reach 14th level (total). So +3d8 on the first attack, +1d8 on all others.

2: Be careful of channel divinity overlapping. Advantage and +10's are use the same resource.

3: I recommend revivify. If you need raise dead, you can swap durring your next rest. And in general, keep open to swaping cleric spells.

Otherwise, it's a pretty solid.

butwhatwemake

Feb 02, 2015 6:17:16

1. I definitely thought the Divine Strike improvement was class based and not level based, but it's not on the progression table, so I think you're right, thank you.

2. I actually was curious about how CDs work in 5th now, especially from multiple sources. Paladin says you get a Channel Divinity, you can use it for these things, Cleric says you get a Channel Divinity, you can use it for these things, you can use it more often when you're higher level. Hold over from 4E think would make me assume it's one resource with multiple uses, however reading the entries plainly, with no preconceptions makes me think they are two completely seperate instances of Channel Divinity, tracked seperately. Nothing in the multiclass rules seems to contradict this. Why do you think it's the same resource?

In any case I don't think I'll get the three uses of the Cleric side of CD, since it's on the Cleric Progression table, whereas something like the improvement to Divine Strike is not.

3.I definitely pack Revivify from the time I can start casting it, I just eventually switch it to a Paladin preparation since it's not stat dependant.

4. Any other tips or suggestions?

mellored

Feb 02, 2015 6:57:46

butwhatwemake wrote:

butwhatwemake

Feb 02, 2015 7:09:42

O yeah definitely, you're right, the as-needed spell list versatility is a really strong selling point, I wouldn't pack Raise all the time, just up there as a place holder and an example that I have access to it.

mellored wrote: