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#1 dleto Aug 13, 2014 17:57:08	Extra attack: Begining at 5th level, you can attack twice, instead of once, whenever you take the Attack action on your turn. The number of attacks increases to three when you reach 11th level in this class and to four when you reach 20th level in this class.   Action Surge: Starting at 2nd level, you can push yourself beyond your normal limits for a moment. On your turn, you can take one additional action on top of your regular action and a possible bonus action.   Since the action surge provided action is clearly a full action that is not a bonus action and the extra attack modifies the baseline Attack action to hit up to 4 times at level 20. Could you then attack up to 8 times (9 with a bonus action attack such as from two weapon fighting) in one turn on the same target by using an action surge to get a 2nd Attack action?   Also as a followup what is the maximum number of attacks that can be made by one character against one target in a single round? any class, build etc... just trying to figure this out.
#2 Overpromises Aug 13, 2014 18:10:22	dleto wrote:
#3 Nerdrage88 Aug 14, 2014 18:54:21	What Over said!
#4 aurionshidhe Aug 15, 2014 8:37:43	And since a wizard casing fireball using a 9th level slot does 14d6 damage or casting magic missile with the same auto-hits with 11 darts I have no problem with this (that doesn't count the damage insanity that an evoker will do).  It's an effective way of letting fighters keep up with wizards (or any spellcaster really) without 4th ed nerfing of spellcasters.  All the classes have an epic feel to them now at high level.   And, yes, I know that Meteor Swarm puts Fireball (and the poor fighter) to shame.  I was just using low level spells to show scaling.
#5 robneto Jun 11, 2015 7:21:58	Doesnt action surge give you an action and a bonus action?
#6 mellored Jun 11, 2015 7:27:56	robneto wrote:
(Reply to #5) ArialBlack	robneto wrote:
#8 Macv12 Jun 11, 2015 7:42:59	Let's remember that you never, ever "have" a bonus action to spend. Features allow you to do an action, which is on top of your normal Action (so a "bonus" Action if you will), but you can only do it once per turn. Action Surge would have to go out of its way to say "and you can take a total of 2 bonus actions this turn, instead of one" to "give" you a second one.
#9 robneto Jun 11, 2015 7:55:07	tyvm guys
#10 guachi Jun 11, 2015 12:28:40	If you want to get an extra bonus action, you need to be a 17th level Thief and you get two turns in the first round of a combat.  And like most Rogue abilities, you can do it combat after combat.
#11 FunkySpunk Jun 11, 2015 18:43:52	Every time I read something like this, I like Fighters more and more.
#12 BRJN Jun 13, 2015 16:56:23	ArialBlack wrote:
(Reply to #2) ArcticTitan	Overpromises wrote: