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#1 RCanine Sep 09, 2014 22:26:21	Would love thougths on this build. Was initially looking to do an EK skill monkey, but got excited about the idea of a shillelagh fighter.   The goal is to be a fun build across all levels. Nothing's really set in stone; curious what others suggest.   The primary mechanic is using War Magic to combine a cantrip + attack, maximizing the value of Hex while also being hard-to-hit and tough to disrupt concentration. Spells are generally used for off-turn actions (Shield, Hellish Rebuke, Misty Step), plus I have unlimited ritual capability, a familiar, and 10 cantrips (pretty much all for RP usage except Eldritch Blast and Guidance). Action Surge gives me an incredible nova round.   Harmless the Witchalock Tiefling, Fighter 7/Warlock 13 Background: Charlatan Speed: 30' Languages: Common, Infernal   STARTING ABILITY SCORES Str 12, Dex 14, Con 12, Int 12, Wis 10, Cha 16   ENDING ABILITY SCORES  Str 12, Dex 14, Con 12, Int 12, Wis 10, Cha 20   AC: 19 (Half Plate + Shield)  HP: 131 (assuming max HP)   Skill Proficiencies Deception, Investigation, History, Insight   Item Proficiencies All armor, shields, All weapons, Thieves Tools, Forgery Kit    CHOICES Fighter 1: Fighting Style - Duelist Warlock 1: Pact: Infernal; Spells: Eldritch Blast, Thunderclap, Armor of Agathys, Hex Warlock 2: Invocations: Agonizing Blast, Fiendish Vigor; Spell: Hellish Rebuke Warlock 3: Pact Boon: Tome; Invocations: replace Fiendish Vigor with Book of Ancient Secrets; Spells: Guidance, Shillelagh, Shocking Grasp, Comprehend Languages, Find Familiar, Misty Step Warlock 4: Ability Score bump (CHA), Spells: Minor Illusion, Burning Hands, Command, Mirror Image or Spider Climb Fighter 2 Fighter 3: Eldritch Knight; Spells: Mage Hand, Prestidigitation, Feather Fall, Protection from Evil and Good, Shield Fighter 4: Feat: Warcaster, Spells: Magic Missile Fighter 5 Fighter 6: Ability Score bump (CHA) Fighter 7: Spells: Darkness, Gust of Wind Warlock 5: Eldritch Invocation: Eldritch Sight, Spell: Counterspell Warlock 6: Spell: Vampiric Touch or Fireball Warlock 7: Eldritch Invocation: Sculptor of Flesh, Spell: Fire Shield Warlock 8: Feat: Crossbow Expert, Spell: Banishment or Blight Warlock 9: Eldritch Invocation: Otherworldly Leap, Spell: Hold Monster or Hallow Warlock 10: Spell: Chill Touch or Blade Ward Warlock 11: Mystic Arcanum (Circle of Death); Spell:  Scrying or Hallow Warlock 12: Feat: ???, Eldritch Invocation: Eldritch Spear Warlock 13: Mystic Arcanum (Finger of Death); Spell: Fly
#2 Polaris Sep 09, 2014 22:55:10	If you want to do a Shillelagh fighter, then why not Warlock (pact)-14/Bard (lore)-6?  You get the same number of attacks with your shillelagh and both classes depend on Con, and you get DOUBLE Cha for your Shillelagh at the top end for damage.   The thing that concerns me a bit with the above build is you are investing in weak EK casting that depends on Int.  I also don't get why you'd want level 7 EK (I can see level 6).  I think Hurl through Hell is better than whatever EK6 gives you.   -Polaris
#3 RCanine Sep 10, 2014 1:52:24	Polaris wrote:
#4 FluffyBunbunKittens Sep 10, 2014 4:35:13	I like it. It's just, ouch, until lv7 before you get a stat/feat bump...   Shillelagh is a lot easier to build around if you start at a higher level, because the regular stats will kind of suck.   You can wear heavy armor even without Strength, because it just lowers your speed by 10ft then. Depends on what you want.   Is this just a thought experiment, or for a campaign?
#5 Polaris Sep 10, 2014 6:57:03	OK, this makes sense given what you want.  I forgot about the EK-7 ability to be honest.  You obviouisly prefer a GISH more on the fighter side while I tend to prefer one on the more caster side.  I'm also discovering that concentration isn't as big a problem as a thought [admittedly playing a ranged caster type].  Like the poster above, however, I do wonder about it developing a bit slowly, however.   -Polaris
#6 RCanine Sep 10, 2014 9:03:23	FluffyBunbunKittens wrote:
#7 RayJ Sep 10, 2014 9:12:53	How important is the Level 7 Warlock spell to you? Finger of Death does have some cool things that could go for it, but you could also change out Warlock level 13 for for fighter level 8 and another ability boost or feat.
#8 Polaris Sep 10, 2014 9:25:53	RCanine wrote:
#9 Jay_Ibero_911 Sep 10, 2014 9:31:49	Your damage is a bit better than that. Hex adds d6, not d4.
#10 RCanine Sep 10, 2014 9:33:30	RayJ wrote:
#11 RayJ Sep 10, 2014 9:56:00	RCanine wrote:
#12 RCanine May 15, 2015 6:24:21	I just made a slight edit to this; replaced Friends with Thunderclap, because who doesn't want at-will AoE in a melee gish build?
#13 QwertyAzerty May 15, 2015 11:28:09	RCanine wrote: