stealth+extra attack

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#1

Sastralle

Dec 02, 2014 10:06:32

If I am hidden and i use my action to make an attack action, I have advantage on attack roll. If i have extra attack do I have advantage on the second attack? if i have a bonus action that permits me to make another attack do I have advantage on that attack? 

Is there a written rule or It's up to the DM?

#2

Synjin

Dec 02, 2014 10:30:18

Sastralle wrote:
#3

Sastralle

Dec 02, 2014 10:37:17

Got it thanks. I wasn't sure because in my head more attack happens at the same time because it ìs still one action no matter how many attack you do, but looks like i'm wrong

#4

Noctaem

Dec 02, 2014 11:19:44

Unfortunately you lose your hiding condition as soon as the first attack hits or misses.  Doesn't matter how many you make as part of your attack action.

#5

Synjin

Dec 02, 2014 11:55:52

Some exceptions to this are things like the Skulker feat.

 

When you are hidden from a creature and miss it with
a ranged weapon attack, making the attack doesn't
reveal your position.

#6

Sastralle

Dec 02, 2014 12:09:41

I was gonna make a rogue 2 fighter x to abuse stealth as a bonus action (and don't want to go rogue 3 for assassinate) but looks like it don't match too well with extra attacks. Oh well I'll think at something else, i like to multi attack with advantage, barb 2 fighter x seems the way to go

#7

Noctaem

Dec 02, 2014 12:22:25

Spam invisibility.  Problem solved.

#8

BRJN

Dec 07, 2014 9:06:22

For the fun factor, I would allow you to create an Alpha Strike on the first turn: your basic attack plus any attached extra attacks (but not bonus attacks) get advantage. 

After your first turn however the extra attacks do not get advantage. 

 

If this turns out to create a "arms race for surprise" or means that everybody else steps on the Rogue's toes, then I would discuss it with the table and change my ruling after the next Downtime.

 

In general. I think attacks made on an unaware enemy ought to be more effective (this goes both ways) than attacks made when everybody is in combat.

So if you are ever a PC at my table, plan well vs. ambushes !

#9

Daydreamer80

Dec 07, 2014 9:07:41

Unless your using something like greater invisibility :D, then its first attack with advantage only.

 

Having said that, when you do get greater invisibility, cast on rogue and laugh manically.

 

#10

guachi

Dec 07, 2014 17:31:07

You could be an assassin and you'd have advantage on all attacks on any target that hasn't taken a turn in combat. Don't even have to surprise them, just win initiative.

#11

Dyndrilliac

Dec 08, 2014 0:29:17

You could dip 2 warlock levels for Devil's Sight and cast Darkness using Arcane Trickster spell slots (though you can't learn an evocation spell higher than 1st-level until your 8th level of Arcane Trickster. You can use the other invocation slot for either at-will Mage Armor, at-will Disguise Self, at-will Silent Image, or at-will Detect Magic all of which could be useful on an Arcane Trickster.

 

Later on just get a Wizard ally to cast the 9th-level spell Foresight on you. That will give you advantage on every d20 roll, and imose disadvantage on all your enemies' attack rolls. It also makes it so that you can't be surprised.