Sword fighting sneaky druid? Any good?

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Darctos

Oct 21, 2014 12:20:32

hi all, like the title says.. Is this any good? What would you choose to create this character? 

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mellored

Oct 21, 2014 12:37:02

Druids are not proficent in swords.

 

Moon druids can fight in melee, as well as sneak (panther).

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edwin_su

Oct 21, 2014 12:43:23

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Darctos

Oct 21, 2014 12:43:34

Elf's are.. So maybe i should have adres that :-) havent got much experience with 5th, so i'm hoping for Some tips from someone who does :-)

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mellored

Oct 21, 2014 12:56:01

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Divljak

Oct 21, 2014 13:12:07

if you wont melee druid that doesent use wild shape, you chose cirle of land, and use club or quaterstaff.

 

Druid has a cantrip that lets him sorta put wooden weapon into life, gaining incresed damage, and using his wisdom instead of strenght for to-hit+dmg.

 

How ever you will not ever be good in a melee fight as combat classes, you will essentialy be a caster who can dish out some in melee.

Later on if you use club, which is a light weapon, you can cast fiery weapon in your off hand, and use two weapon fighting, fire weapon also uses your wisdom to determine+to hit, and its in shape of scimitar which is also a light weapon, but doesent care about +dmg, because its fixed damage that scales up depending on spell slot used

 

 

 

 

 

If you wont to use sword, you will need to alocate your ability points into strenght and basically get the same thing as above while gimping yourself

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Corran21

Oct 21, 2014 13:14:30

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Divljak

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mellored

Oct 21, 2014 13:18:28

You can have a flame blade and a shillegh club.

 

Though, you can't TWF with them.

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Divljak

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1eejit

Oct 21, 2014 13:51:05
Dip shadow monk, use a shortsword. Simples.
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austinmonster

Oct 21, 2014 13:57:03

Interesting idea - a druid with a Bokken would be able to use that cantrip (that I can never spell right) to make that wooden sword do more as much damage as a proper metal one - for a fraction of the cost! 

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Timborama

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mellored

Oct 22, 2014 7:20:25

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Divljak

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mellored

Oct 22, 2014 7:27:39

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Divljak

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AaronOfBarbaria

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mellored

Oct 22, 2014 7:35:48

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Divljak

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Divljak

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AaronOfBarbaria

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Divljak

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AaronOfBarbaria

Oct 22, 2014 8:16:03

Of course, Divljak, laugh off the evidence that your interpretation may not actually match to the written rules... definitely not worth checking to see if maybe you are actually wrong about something.

 

I mean, it's not like there are other spells or rules elements that actually clearly state "Attack action," to look at in order to see that anything not actually labeled as "Attack action" isn't an attack action.

 

...or dozens of other attack rolls called for by game elements, spells especially, that aren't part of an Attack action.

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Divljak

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Yunru

Oct 22, 2014 8:42:34

Your "bonus action", you use it to "Cast a Spell" because Flame Blade is a spell.

Then to attack with it, you use you "Action". Not for any of the listed things, but because the spell dictates as such. Specific beats Generic.

 

Also note the spell specifically states the attack with said blade is a "melee spell attack". So anything requiring a "melee weapon attack" doesn't trigger off of it.

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Divljak

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Yunru

Oct 22, 2014 8:41:06

Your response made no sense. Although I will admit my initial response was wrong.

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Divljak

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Yunru

Oct 22, 2014 8:43:23

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Divljak

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AaronOfBarbaria

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mellored

Oct 22, 2014 8:48:49

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Yunru

Oct 22, 2014 8:49:32

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Divljak

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Divljak

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Yunru

Oct 22, 2014 8:52:14

... No, I told you attacking with flame blade is a melee spell attack.

 

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Divljak

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AaronOfBarbaria

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Yunru

Oct 22, 2014 8:55:22

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Divljak

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Yunru

Oct 22, 2014 8:59:07

No it's just your action. You don't take any kind of action, you just use your action.

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Divljak

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AaronOfBarbaria

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mellored

Oct 22, 2014 9:05:43

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Yunru

Oct 22, 2014 9:06:48
Attack. Which does not make it the "Attack action", it makes it the action specified by the spell itself. Which is just a plain-joe "action".
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AaronOfBarbaria

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Divljak

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Yunru

Oct 22, 2014 9:11:44

The sepcific rule stated by the spell.

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Divljak

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mellored

Oct 22, 2014 9:14:13

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Divljak

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mellored

Oct 22, 2014 9:27:27

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Divljak

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Divljak

Oct 22, 2014 9:41:37

o and just not to forget, go trolling bladelock threads, because pact weapon is not a weapon you can attack with, its rather magic that you use with action "use"

 

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AaronOfBarbaria

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Divljak

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Yunru

Oct 22, 2014 9:48:25

Report as troll and move on.

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AaronOfBarbaria

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Divljak

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Divljak

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Timborama

Oct 22, 2014 9:57:49

Oh god...what have I done...

 

I'm sorry you three...

 

(I wonder how many posts Div had before this thread...)

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AaronOfBarbaria

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Timborama

Oct 22, 2014 10:07:05

Ha ha, no, it's okay. I'll stop now, especially since we're waaaaay off-track (and could maybe make a new topic). So...sorry OP! I didn't mean to make a slight correction, then come back from lunch to 30-ish new replies! I hit "refresh" and went "Oh God, 30 replies?! This was about what I said wasn't it..."

 

Anyway, OP, panther form, Scimitar, or multiclass. Yeah...that's the ticket!

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SilentSin

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Corran21

Oct 22, 2014 19:11:41

I couldnt make it reading this to the end.... Divljak is either trolling, or has not the slightest idea of how the rules work.... Give him time to read the Player's Handbook....

But seriously, what's going on here is really simple. We have this all-knowledgable DM who of course knows better than anyone else how the game works.... or a player who does not want to give up on somthing really good, he thinks he found.... So it's futile to try to convince him really... let him play however he likes... And yes, irony is healthy