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#1 Matau99 Feb 15, 2015 10:38:14	(This is actually my first post, and I'm a tad nervous, but here I go!)   So, I was thinking about how to maximize the damage a high-level wizard can do with cantrips, and thus use all their spell slots for more interesting things.   Wizard (Evoker) 14/Warlock (any) 2/anything 1. I'd go Rogue 3 (Assassin) to maximize damage (advantage on anyone who hasn't gone yet! Crits on anyone who's surprised!), or just stay Wizard the rest of the way to maximize utility (Wish. Game over.) You need eldritch blast, and the Eldritch Invocation agonizing blast. I'd also get repelling blast, for the kiting potential, but the second is up to you. You need at least Cha 20 and Int 20. You can get this in many ways (Tiefling or variant human are probably the easiest). Here's how it works: As an evoker (from Empowered Evocation), you add your intelligence modifier to the damage your evocation spells do on a hit. Because you make a separate attack roll for every hit, you add it to all four of them. With agonizing blast, you add your Charisma modifier to the damage your agonizing blast does on a hit. Because you make a separate attack roll for every hit, you add it to all four of them. Finally, as an evoker (Overchannel), you can maximize the damage, but if you keep doing that, you suffer damage per level of the spell. Because cantrips are level 0, you'll never take any damage. That's a total of [(1d10+5+5)*4] all maximized. Oh, and it's force damage, so only the Helmed Horror is immune. In conclusion, it looks like being a high-level evoker might actually be the best specialization for utility wizards, because of how crazy their cantrips get.
#2 supreme_slayer Feb 15, 2015 10:51:15	Overchannel says "when you cast a Wizard spell". Eldritch Blast is not a Wizard spell.
#3 Matau99 Feb 15, 2015 10:56:55	Oh. Hmmm... Even if you're not overchanneling, that's still 44 damage minimum, 80 max, with an average of 62.   Though I feel like there should be a way to maximize it...
#4 FrogReaver Feb 15, 2015 11:01:25	Empowered Evocation: Beginning at 10th level, you can add your Intelligence modifier to the damage roll of any wizard evocation spell you cast.   I'm not sure a warlock cantrip qualifies as a wizard evocation spell....
#5 Yunru Feb 15, 2015 11:04:16	All the Evoker features refer to Wizard spells. The best you can do is Wizard 14/Sorcerer 6 with overchanneled Firebolts.
#6 DeathDice Feb 15, 2015 11:20:09	Yunru wrote:
#7 Yunru Feb 15, 2015 11:34:46	Eldritch Blast, Agonizing Blast and Hex still outdoes it though.
#8 Archon007 Feb 15, 2015 11:53:21	Keep in mind while RAW now over channel works with cantrips Mike said this:   Mike Mearls @mikemearls Overchannel questions: Not intended to work with cantrips, but it works out if you increase the damage by 1d12 per cantrip