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#1 Deius1022 Aug 24, 2014 9:33:36	I assumed this topic would have been asked, but i didnt find it.  Possibly its just a really dumb question, haha. How many spell slots do warlocks get. It says at 5th level they have 2- 3rd level slots.  But is that all they have?  At level 20, can the warlock really only cast 4 spells? 4 cantrips, and 8 invocations? At 5th level the sorcerer can cast 14 spells (5-0, 4-1, 3-2,and 2-3) The warlock can cast 5?  (3-0, and 2-3) Or can they cast 12 (3-0, 3-1, 4-2, 2-3)?  which seems excessive. Anyway, if this has been answered, could somebody please let me know?  thank you Deius
#2 yakuba Aug 24, 2014 9:50:41	Yes. Warlocks only get form 1-4 spell slots. These slots can be reused after every short and long rest, wheras the Sorcerer's slots are reusable only after a long rest.
#3 ppaladin123 Aug 24, 2014 9:51:49	Deius1022 wrote:
#4 Thoughts_My_Aim Aug 24, 2014 9:52:25	Yes and no.   Warlock Pact Magic slots are refreshed on a short rest rather than on a long one, so although they have fewer slots they get them back a lot faster.   In a day with three short rests, a Warlock can cast six spells a third level, plus three invocations (which could be used at-will, or once per day, or not be spells at all) whereas a wizard can cast only two third-level spells, three second-level spells and four first-level spells. The wizard may use Arcane Recovery to recover an additional third-level spell, for a total of 3 + 2 + 4 = 9, so the wizard gets more spells, but the Warlock gets more high-level spells.   With fewer short rests, the Warlock is worse off, with more, the Warlock is better off.   It might also be worth pointing out that if the Warlock takes Agonising Blast then they will be able to fire two blasts doing 1D10 + Cha Mod damage at will, which is better than a Wizard can do. They *also* get their pact boons and *also* get better weapon and armour proficiencies.   Not saying it totally balances, but Warlocks look particularly poor if you overlook the fact that Pact Magic comes back every Short Rest.
(Reply to #2) Deius1022	yakuba wrote:
#6 ppaladin123 Aug 24, 2014 12:53:37	Thoughts_My_Aim wrote:
(Reply to #4) Ashrym	Thoughts_My_Aim wrote:
#8 Thoughts_My_Aim Aug 24, 2014 15:48:44	ppaladin123 wrote:
#9 crimfan07 Aug 25, 2014 6:52:27	I noticed two things yesterday when we were playing our beta conversions from our 4E characters:   -Exhaustion is NASTY and there's essentially no way to get rid of it, although there are ways to mitigate its effects to some degree (e.g., Enhance Ability). The fact that it only goes away with a long rest is pretty nasty. I'd consider making at least the first level of it go away on a short rest, though if so I might hand it out a bit more often.  -Having items or spells that could drop your exhaustion level by 1 or, at the better end, give you the benefit of a rest would be pretty cool, and make sense.   DM: "You find a small metal flask."   PC: "I examine it closely."   DM: "It appears to be silver, with a light blue border."   PC: "Anything else?"   DM: "When you look closely at it, you see that there's a picture of a bull's head done in red...."   ;)
(Reply to #9) Ashrym	crimfan07 wrote:
#11 Squad Aug 28, 2014 17:12:57	I have a related question regarding spell slots.  The book states:   "Additionally, when you gain a level in this class, you can choose one of the warlock spells you know and replace it with another spell from the warlock spell list, which also must be of a level for which you have spell slots."   Could a Warlock then replace a 1st level known spell with a 5th level spell starting at 9th level and above?   For example, at 9th level, gain access to 5th level spell slots and gain a spell.  Could I gain Hold Monster (a 5th level spell) and choose one of my lower level spells and replace it with Dominate Person (which is also 5th level)?   It seems like it would work this way given the quote above and how Warlock spell slots work.
#12 Devils-Advocate Aug 28, 2014 18:40:29	I'll tell you a secret about the Warlock. It's a 4E class. They tried to hide it, but they totally work on AEDU. It's just written confusingly so you won't notice.