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#1 daspian Sep 01, 2014 22:17:27	So, i just had a question pertaining to the Archfey mostly, but also will broaden it a bit more...   i had trouble finding info on what Archfey are out there, and what domains they covered, i mean i know they are not like deities, but i am sure each Archfey has different forms of power, ( i.e. one might be more akin to a nature spirit, another more about shadows or the cold)   my question is: what are the names of the archfey, their powers, their goals, what are they about, basically any info about them.   i would also like to know a bit more about the other 2, specifically the Great Old Ones, i know a bit about the Fiends, mainly asmodeus and Meph, and a few others from the wiki, but that's about it.   Edit: take a look here at Lord_Vents's thread, created to post your own homebrew, or info about official FR (or other settings) Pact Patrons, help spread the info around for other warlocks so they can know more about their pact patrons.   http://community.wizards.com/forum/player-help/threads/4135531
#2 Lord_Ventnor Sep 01, 2014 22:41:05	Archefey aren't really as well-covered as fiends or Old Ones, so there's some possibility of making stuff up. Still, if you want a place to start, here are some ideas:   Baba Yaga, the most powerful of all hags. She's one of the most infamous figures in Slavic Folklore, and has played the role of both villain and helper. There's definitely a lot of themes that you can explore if you decide to make her your patron.   Another would be Oberon and Titania, the king and queen of fairies from Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream. They'd work for both good and evil warlocks alike, since their goals seem inscrutable to humans.   One of my favorite sources of fey flavor comes from The Dresden Files novels. The main character deals with a lot of Fey shenanigans. The books also propose that Santa Claus is an extremely powerful Fey Lord, so your Warlock's pact could have him or her spreading joy and cheer as their end of the deal.
#3 daspian Sep 01, 2014 23:02:13	haha Santa Claus i love that one... yes...my warlock will spread joy and cheer?.... by incinerating the flesh from their bones?
(Reply to #3) Lord_Ventnor	daspian wrote:
#5 spanglemaker Sep 01, 2014 23:30:33	4th Edition had more about the Archfey, their Courts, the Feywild and their relationship with the Eladrin (High Elves). A few issues of Dragon had articles about the Prince of Frost.   I love the Santa Claws (lol) Archfey concept- Charlatan/Entertainer Tome Pact, spreading joy, punishing evil and bad behaviour with a cantrip or two, plus use of Fey Presence.
(Reply to #5) Lord_Ventnor	spanglemaker wrote:
#7 NN1 Sep 02, 2014 12:43:44	For fey, I guess you might have to look into literature and folklore (Wikipedia should do).  As for the Old Ones, you get to look into the Lovecraft's Cthulhu Mythos.  Then again, most Cthulhu Mythos Old Ones drive characters insane when they learn about them and tend to be apocalyptic in nature, even it they aren't deliberately hostile.
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#10 daspian Sep 02, 2014 13:14:25	aye, i assumed Great Old Ones i could just take Cthulu mythos which i'm pretty familiar with.... it's just the archfey i really don't know what to base off that.... the baby yaga is pretty cool and the santa idea, i didn't think to consider them Fey......so am i to assume that fey should cover Nature Spirits, folk/fairy tale monsters/villains/entities, what other fey like creatures?   and do all fey have to be in line with the "Evil Trickster Nature Spirit or seasonal spirit type entity" and by that i mean, would it be odd for a Fey to have more of powers aligned to freezing cold, or Shadow Magic, or is the latter more from Shadowfell entity's and i'll have to wait for that supplement to come out? Also, i saw the thread you created Lord_Vent of "101 Warlock Patrons" awesome idea, and i think that's great someone finally started that xD i'll post a link to it in the first box so people from looking at this thread can jump to that.
(Reply to #10) NN1	daspian wrote:
#12 Yunru Sep 02, 2014 14:56:46	I believe the point was the Old Ones powers are limited because they're external to the world, and the gods, demons and whatnot continually fight their intrusion? (a la 4e Far Realms (iirc)) Rather than because they're "small fry" that is.
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#15 spanglemaker Sep 02, 2014 15:50:07	Fey, Faerie and the Feywild contain an infinite amount of possibility, enchantment, fear and wonder.   Alice goes through the looking glass, talking animals, folk tales and hidden folk are all staples of the Fey. Yet not all fey are made equal, technically in Folklore- Dwarves, Elves, Hobgoblins, goblins, sprites, caith sith, kelpies and more would be considered creatures of faerie. Yet that is folklore in reality, D&D is a game so we can play mix and match with game reality aka fantasy, thus Dwarves are no longer fey, Elves and Half Elves have Fey ancestry. In folklore some Giants were considered faerie creatures, in Chinese mythology there are many more fairy folk.   Some Fey are tricksters, some are Unseelie (not evil, not good- simply alien and amoral), others are Seelie (not good, not bad yet moral in their own way).  Some may or may not have a Nature link, some may be more attuned to emotions and concepts. Yet others may be bound or linked or associated with a place- nymphs.   I hope the DM's Guide, will contain more Patrons and ideas for adapting the spell lists of the Patrons. Warlocks are really cool and in some ways appear more subtle than wizards.
#16 Litania84it Sep 02, 2014 15:52:35	Faeries are extremely broad and all-ancompassing. Going back to fairy tale and folklore you could even argue that orcs, trolls and giants are fey creatures, and some undead creatures too (banshees are most definitely fae in the Irish mythos). Even werewolves, why not. My oh my, granny, what big teeth you have... I recommend checking out the excellent "Changeling the Lost" game from White Wolf for inspiration.
#17 spanglemaker Sep 05, 2014 0:28:17	I would also suggest checking out Dark Ages Fae, and the Ghosts of Albion RPG's   Fiction:   Meredith Gentry books- Its adult, more fey than True Blood. War for the Oaks, by Emma Bull   Also check out online Faerie, Fey, Fairy, Changelings- the wiki is not so bad :-)
#18 Mad_Jack Sep 02, 2014 17:17:54	More than any other warlock pact patrons, the concept of the Fey is absurdly wide open to interpretation and refluffing.     Irish, Scottish and Welsh mythologies all contain Fey creatures by the metric ton - every rock, tree, river and puddle had its own spirit, and the Fey ranged from tiny helpful sprites that would mend your shoes for a bowl of milk and crust of bread to high-powered psychopathic arsonists who killed people just to collect their teeth and string them on a necklace...  In Irish legend, the fey are known as the Sidhe or the Tuatha de Daanan, the "children" of the Irish gods.  Although the lesser ones who had particular jobs or areas of responsibility such as banshees and leprechauns might be considered races (as they weren't unique), many of the greater, more powerful ones were unique individuals who could have any number of appearances and powers. The one thing they all had in common was that you were much better off if you never met them - At best they were careless and fickle, at worst they were anywhere from capricious to actively homicidal.    Pick any aspect of nature or natural element (frost, fire, air, winter, the sky, light, even life or death), or any sort of abstract concept (dreams, loyalty, inspiration, etc.), and you could design an ArchFey who holds sway over it.