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| #1Treantmonklvl20Aug 19, 2015 22:50:04 | I recently did a podcast discussing Wizard strategies. You can find it HERE.
Edit: I should point out that in the "minor illusion" example the opponent could use it's first attack to attack the halfling with disadvantage, thus interacting with the box and not getting disadvantage with attack #2. I can't edit the podcast, so just want to bring up that I don't disagree with this point.
I also want to put in a caveat I should have made clear in the podcast: We discuss two tactical examples. OF COURSE everything in the examples is circumstantial. These ARE NOT intended to be recommendations on what you need to do specifically with your own wizard beyond thinking creatively rather than just throwing the highest damage spell. |
| #2StrillAug 20, 2015 1:04:39 | You're wrong about Minor Illusion. In order to get advantage from being hidden, you have to use the Hide action and pass a stealth check. Being unseen is a prerequisite for using the Hide action, but being unseen does not give you advantage.
Being unseen does give enemies disadvantage against you though, but in the case of Minor Illusion, only for the first attack. The Orc would make his first attack with disadvantage, his weapon would pass through the box, revealing it to be an illusion, and the second attack would be made without disadvantage.
It's not as good as you're making it out to be.
The Invisible condition is an explicit exception to this rule, and gives your attacks advantage unconditionally, as specified in the Appendix A - Conditions. |
| #3Cyber-DaveAug 20, 2015 2:51:17 |
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| #4StrillAug 20, 2015 3:52:56 |
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| #5YunruAug 20, 2015 3:44:59 | Hidden does get a benefit: the enemies don't know where you are. Both get Advantage for being unseen. Also I'd like to point out a flaw in your argument: if Hidden is a prerequisite for Unseen, how come you need to be Unseen before you can Hide? |
| #6StrillAug 20, 2015 3:51:21 |
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| #7Cyber-DaveAug 20, 2015 4:17:15 |
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| #8StrillAug 20, 2015 4:33:41 |
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| #9Treantmonklvl20Aug 20, 2015 7:26:19 |
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| #11Cyber-DaveAug 20, 2015 9:17:53 |
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| #12Kron-KarnAug 20, 2015 13:33:52 | I only started playing D&D 3 years ago (really I started with pathfinder but semantics really) and once 5e came out i was hooked. Like most beginner players I thought to "win dungeons and dragons" i had to deal the most damage. this lead to alot of pk's and I found my self board with characters quite quickly. |
| #13Treantmonklvl20Aug 20, 2015 16:12:30 |
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| #16ElfcrusherAug 20, 2015 19:29:54 |
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| #17YunruAug 20, 2015 19:47:58 | I remember back during the Unification Wars when we had a similar quibble. |