Hi all! I just picked up the 5th E players handbook and signed up for the Wednesday Night D&D Encounters campaign at the Armchair Adventurer in Honolulu. I love to play clerics as mythology and religion are favorite subjects of mine in our own world. The store owner, one of the DMs for the events, suggested I serve one of the deities listed in the Forgotten Realms pantheon. I chose Torm, and another player chose Tyr. After the first session I did some web searching on Forgotten Realms and have a few questions.
According the lore of Torm, Tyr granted Torm his power, and died. Yet my cleric friend in the party assures me Tyr is alive and well, and casts prayerful spells that seem to support his claim. Yet, in ancient lore it is said that our lower level spells are not directly granted by our deities, but generated through faith. Mid level spells are often granted by lesser associated servants of the deity, and high level spells are granted by the Greater Gods and Goddesses themselves.
Is any of this still true? Did Tyr die to help elevate Torm to greater Godhood? Or has Torm always been a greater deity, and Tyr is alive and well?
Can anyone give me an official answer to whether Pistis Sophia's lore is still fairly current? I adore angels, due to an intense love of angels in 'Magic the Gathering'. Female Angels are especially lovely. So my character would like to revere Pistis Sophia, but I am worried that if I go to another venue for an official game that the lore will not be honored. And so, an official answer about whether she is still the Archon of Wisdom among the Hebdomad, and living a life as a wandering ascetic doing good deeds for folks in need would be greatly appreciated;)
Or put Avacyn in Forgotten Realms
Or Lady Serra. Can't go wrong! There will be a Forgotten Realms wave of Magic Cards in the future, right?
I'm not 100% familiar, but Tyr may have been remade in the Sundering. Over the last few hundred years a number of gods and goddesses perished during the cataclysmic Spellplague. More recently the over-god Ao has begin to re-write the Tablets of Fate and a number of these gods have been reborn. Mystra the goddess of magic perhaps chief amongst them.
If you want to learn more, there is a series of 6 books on the subject, beginning with The Companions by R.A. Salvatore.
There's also a general history of the Realms and it's numerous cataclysms and clashes, here.
http://erikscottdebie.com/2012/08/21/candlekeep-seminar-201/
http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Tyr
think it's still up-to-date...aye, Tyr i believe is dead, and yes he died so he could help ascend Torm, think of torm like his Protege etc, they were good friends, even though their servants ( You the cleric) sometimes few each other as friendly rivals "Frenemies"
honestly, he doesn't have to exactly be alive, the biggest thing of D&D is just roll with what you want and RP it away, if you truly enjoy it, and have fun with it, you can make some plausible reason as to how and why your character does "this" or "that"
for example: even if Tyr is "dead" there are still some clerics of his who of course worship his tenets and uphold his name, even if he's dead his servants are still around and practice in his name, (even though Tyr and Torm are pretty much the same tenets etc.)
Your friend could R.P it a number of reasons why he still worships Tyr, perhaps he is skeptical and thinks Tyr now lives on inside Torm ( and Bahamut who absorbed some of his power too) and now Torm and Bahamut contain his divine essence and will someday be reborn ( who knows with all the crazy **** deities can do), Perhaps your friend draws his power from his faith ( so fervantly) in Tyr even if Tyr is not there to grant him power, his servants (by this i mean his angels, and others etc) are still around i believe now working for Torm.
while Forgotten Realms does truly have a lore that is somewhat set in stone, think of them more as guide-lines, not rules, you can sometimes bend certain things to your own flavor if you just RP it in your game with a little imagination ;)
They are bringing Tyr back during "The Sundering" along with some others gods including Bhaal. Look in the back of your phb; there is an appendix that has all the current FR dieties. Tyr is listed there.
They haven't explained the sundering fully yet so we don't know how exactly Tyr came back but he did.
Anyway, when gods die in FR they generally float along in the astral sea and slowly fade as faith in them fades (they are conscious of this). If folks still believe in them they can still draw power from them and if the faith remains strong or even grows it can reignite the spark of life in the god and they can return. Numerous gods have contingency plans for their own deaths that will sustain them with beliefe/faith long enough for their followers or an eclipse or whatever to resurrect them. Bhaal had the Bhaalspawn as seen in Baldur's Gate II (they brought terror and murder and kept fear of Bhaal real in the world which sustained him and then he was able to reenter the world through the body of one of his spawn). Myrkul had the Betrayer s seen in NWN II: Mask of the Betrayer, whichs sustained him for decades. At some point between that game and the Sundering Mrykul apparently figured out how to return