A Substitute for D&D miniatures

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#1

zombiegleemax

Sep 05, 2006 19:57:19
This essay is based on the assumption that the DM and players strongly believe in using representative miniatures for tracking the situation. Every DM has a way, ranging from unused dice to coins to even chess pieces or guitar picks. Perhaps the DM even uses miniatures only for that climactic encounter where the beautifully-made WotC ones enhance the situation. In any case, D&D heavily favors those who use grids and markers to keep track of any battle-oriented situation.

However, the miniatures that Wizards of the Coast sells pose several problems. First, there is a finite amount of them that you can buy; not every DM has the oodles of money around to build a perfect collection of every miniature he or she requires at all times during a campaign. Secondly, even if all of these miniatures were acquired, it would be a hefty amount of them to transport for every session that is not at the DM's place of residence. Third, even if they could be acquired and transported, the DM would still expand his or her collection in parts; without a nearby hobby shop or a desire to pay overnight shipping, it may be difficult to acquire the necessary miniatures in a timely manner for the next session. Last, and certainly not least, the miniatures are limited by the creator's imagination; very often, the DM wishes to do something more eclectic than can be represented by a mass-produced item.

My solution has been an adventure in arts and crafts. Using my printer, some old cardboard, and Elmer's glue, I've been able to produce hundreds of markers for any situation. You start by finding pictures of the monsters and NPCs online; Google's image search is indispensable here. The best pictures are those that are simple, color sketches as opposed to photo-quality images. These images need to look good at sizes around 1"x1", and it might take some searching to find the perfect image that both fits the campaign and scales best to that small size.

When you have found enough images, you open Microsoft Word (or your other favorite word processor) and make a table that consists of 1"x1" cells. With left-right margins of 0.25" and top-bottom margins of 0.5", you can make 80 such miniatures (8x10 cells) with one printout.

After you print out the page, I recommend getting a paper plate and pouring some glue onto it. With a q-tip, spread the glue very lightly over the back of the printout. You don't need a lot of glue; just enough for the paper to stick to the cardboard backing. Then, affix the printout to the cardboard and flatten it gently. Make sure there's no bumps or pockets of air. Let this dry for approximately 15 minutes before cutting them into small squares.

What I usually do next is write little identifying letters in one of the corners; this allows me to identify each of the same race by letter, such as orc-A, orc-B, etc. for as many as are on the printout. Sometimes the lettering scheme lends itself to meta-gaming; if the players first see Vampire-Z, then it might seem as if the vampire has 25 buddies of his that may eventually be thrown into battle one day. To counter this, I usually randomize the letters a bit so that the players cannot ever figure out how many of a particular marker I've made.

The advantage to making markers this way is that you are limited only by your imagination, artistic talent, or Google's image search. I've made hundreds of these, and in many cases, have only used a set of markers for one encounter. They're no replacement for WotC's miniatures where the utmost quality is desired; for most other times where no suitable miniature can be found, these have proven to me to be most useful.
#2

zombiegleemax

Sep 23, 2006 22:21:14
Interesting, It would be cheap and effective. I may have to try this out being a money straped DM myself.
#3

radiation_messiah

Sep 24, 2006 0:54:20
In my gaming group, we use a mix of counters, WoTC minis, and all sorts of other pieces laying around the place. Most of the players in my group also play games like Warhammer Fantasy or 40k, so we have plenty of spare miniatures laying around to use as proxies if we don’t have WoTC ones handy.

While using counters and proxies for enemies and other parts of an encounter is all well and good (as not every DM or player has 20 goblins or skeletons handy at any given time), I do believe that every player should have a mini that is at least somewhat accurate of the character they are playing.
#4

zombiegleemax

Sep 24, 2006 10:52:10
My group pooled together all our Lego men and equipment and then for bases just cut the thin Lego boards into squares that full either the medium or large creature. It works pretty well and is customizable enough where the minis seem realistic to the characters. Minis are just too expensive and random for my liking.
#5

zombiegleemax

Sep 25, 2006 23:39:47
I have done this idea that you speak of but mine was a little more cooler, lol. I took Alea Tools idea about using Magic Cards/Printouts/Any kinda cards/etc. and use a 1" Circle Hole punch and then base them on metal washers.

It has worked wonders, and cheap too. I personally used all my old Magic cards and made about 2000 tokens. The sad thing is though I decided to jump on the DDM bandwagon and bought a crap load of them too, so I use them, not the washers, but at least I know when I need tons of others or when I go to other peoples games (not at my house) I can bring the washers, more easy to transfer and harder to break...

http://www.aleatools.com/HowBasicTopPlate.aspx
#6

jdrock

Sep 27, 2006 17:18:32
I do something similar but with some enhancements. When I print out the page of minis, I reverse the page so that I have a front and back side to all minis. I use Photoshop, so this is much easier to do. Then I cut out each mini and tape the front and back sides of each one together. Tape makes the mini more substantial and durable. Each mini is then affixed to a small base so that it "stands" up. Now I have 3-dimensional (well more like 2.5-dimensional) minis to play with!
#7

volsung100

Oct 02, 2006 2:32:59
Wow, all of these solutions make me feel so lazy. My group uses a cheap alternative as well. For pieces we use a set of Risk pieces (yeah, that old boardgame). Its a pretty nice set, with little plastic men, cannons and cavalry. For battle maps, we use graph paper (1/4" square). Each PC chooses a different colored infantry to represent them. All enemies are red pieces (a cannon or horseman may be a large creature or particularly nasty enemy). Sometimes undead are represented by gray pieces as opposed to red. It might sound a little strange, yet my group enjoys it. :D
#8

volsung100

Oct 03, 2006 1:02:10
My group uses a pretty cheap alternative as well. As an extra bonus, its pretty lazy and can be done with no time or skill points spent on craft (miniature). We use Risk pieces (yeah, the boardgame) and graph paper (1/4" squares preferred). PCs are each a different colored piece, usually whatever represents one unit (in our case, individual soldiers). Enemies are red units. The bigger enemies are represented by the larger units (cavaliers and canons). Undead are gray. This system may seem a little uncreative, but it works well; especially in encounters with tons of enemy units. :D
#9

Edymnion

Oct 03, 2006 7:47:13
I prefer gummi bears, peanut m&m's, and those mini cookie things for really big baddies. Why? Because whoever beats 'em gets to eat 'em. :D
#10

Guroth_the_Forsaken

Oct 04, 2006 12:13:41
I prefer gummi bears, peanut m&m's, and those mini cookie things for really big baddies. Why? Because whoever beats 'em gets to eat 'em. :D

Nice! I want to join your group!
#11

minister_for_moral_truth

Oct 04, 2006 18:42:45
I can now feel all smug with my carefully converted and painted cleric, one of my few Rackham models, sitting on my desk, replesent in red, white, black and silver (I like LN, alright?)
#12

Edymnion

Oct 04, 2006 20:20:49
Nice! I want to join your group!

"Okay, the five orcs are the green peanut m&m's, the fireball happy mage is the red gummie bear, and his familiar is this oversized nerd candy. Got it?"

"Man, I prefer fighting kobolds, they taste better!"

:P
#13

steevo

Oct 05, 2006 9:10:27
I have recently jumped on the DDM bandwagon myself, however, I do use paper standups for anything I need but don't have. I used my basic paint program to draw a "flattened" stand up. When I'm drawing it on my computer, I size the base to fit whatever number of squares the critter ought to occupy and then cut it in half and attach each half to opposite sides of the fold up. On my screen, each fold up looks something like this (with two images of the monster on the long parts, head to head):

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I fit as many of these on a page as I can and then print them out on cardstock paper (which you can buy at places like Staples/Business Depot), fold them over and tape the two halves of the base together underneath to make a T-shaped standup of whatever I need. I usually use a bit of duct tape on the bottom, and cover the whole base, because duct tape is heavy enough (relatively speaking) to add a bit of weight to the mini's base.

My friends have commented that it's a lot of work when I could just use goblin minis as kobolds (for example), but I'm a very visual person. If the party is fighting kobolds, I like to see kobolds on the map.
#14

toriel

Oct 05, 2006 14:32:59
I only buy 1 booster (or starter) of each new set of DDM and use whatever I get. If the mini doesn't really represent what is there, I will show the players an image of what it is really. I also bought a grid mat and some non permanent markers and I draw the place where the battle takes place. I just erase after. It's very useful and not too expensive.

My players are very satisfied and happy with that solution.
#15

rim-soulfang

Oct 05, 2006 15:20:11
My group have enough dies for several parties of wizards, so if minis are unavailable we use differently colored dice to replace them.
#16

molten_dragon

Oct 13, 2006 6:04:06
I too make my own monster tiles. I've found that the wizards site is a great art source because the have pretty much every illustration from every book they've published posted.
#17

anduaramurt

Oct 25, 2006 17:58:19
My group uses quarter-inch dice on quarter-inch graph paper. Everybody gets a different color die, and the baddies are green unless there's more than one kind out there at once.

Also, we tend to keep the map and the dice behind the DM screen, to make it easier to track invisibility, darkness, and that sort of thing. Works startlingly well.
#18

zombiegleemax

Nov 01, 2006 14:36:23
I have recently jumped on the DDM bandwagon myself, however, I do use paper standups for anything I need but don't have. I used my basic paint program to draw a "flattened" stand up. When I'm drawing it on my computer, I size the base to fit whatever number of squares the critter ought to occupy and then cut it in half and attach each half to opposite sides of the fold up. On my screen, each fold up looks something like this (with two images of the monster on the long parts, head to head):

[ ][ ][ ][ ]

I fit as many of these on a page as I can and then print them out on cardstock paper (which you can buy at places like Staples/Business Depot), fold them over and tape the two halves of the base together underneath to make a T-shaped standup of whatever I need. I usually use a bit of duct tape on the bottom, and cover the whole base, because duct tape is heavy enough (relatively speaking) to add a bit of weight to the mini's base.

My friends have commented that it's a lot of work when I could just use goblin minis as kobolds (for example), but I'm a very visual person. If the party is fighting kobolds, I like to see kobolds on the map.

I do something very similar, except that I form the paper into a stand-up triangle by folding the two non-illustrated tabs inward, overlapping them, and taping them together. I also tape a penny to the bottom to add weight and stability.
#19

zombiegleemax

Nov 02, 2006 18:49:56
Being a student of the arts, I create illustrations of characters that I don't have minis for.
I take them into photoshop (or if pressed for time, just reduce the image by photocopying it) to colorize and resize. I'll try the grid and back image ideas. Now to use the cardstock I have laying around...
#20

lunas_argent

Nov 04, 2006 4:46:53
These are all very groovy ideas, except Edymnions, whose is groovylicious. Seriously, Ed, Those game-pieces (or reeses-pieces, whichever) would not last long at all around me. :D
#21

zombiegleemax

Nov 04, 2006 15:27:12
I use colored plastic letters and numbers, of the sort you see on fridges or in elementary school classes.

If only I could find @ symbols for the PCs....
#22

Edymnion

Nov 07, 2006 12:07:54
Also, fun sized Almond Joy bars are almost the perfect size and shape for horses. Use the mound variety for riderless horses, and the almond kind for horses with riders.
#23

zombiegleemax

Nov 07, 2006 17:28:58
I do two things as substitutes for the Store-Bought minis. For the PCs, I took a small piece of scrape 1/4" ply wood, and cut it into 1"X1" squares, and painted them green (or brown, or grey or what ever). Then I went to my bin of old LEGOs, as every kid from my generation has copious amounts of these, and found a hand full of the 1X2 Dot flat pieces and hot glued them to the plywood bases. I then collected all the fantasy/medieval themed Lego men pieces and put them in a box. My players love this because they can really customize what their mini looks like, and can swap out gear weapons, and equipment as it changes in the game.

For more basic minis for DM use, I cut out a bunch of 1"X1", 2"X2", etc. pieces of 1/8th inch thick white board, and can just write numbers, letters, description, or what ever on the pieces with a fine tipped dry erase marker. When the encounter is over, I just wipe 'em clean. This also works really well for 3D combats as you can note the actual flying height right on the piece.

Just my two coppers.
--Greven
#24

zombiegleemax

Nov 07, 2006 18:33:24
My players are remarkably spoiled. I sport one of the world's largest collections of Ral-Partha AD&D miniatures. However for the odd collosal monster I don't own an exact miniature of I've found that chip bags work well. :P
#25

zombiegleemax

Nov 07, 2006 21:33:10
One of the players owns a few official minis so we tend to use those for medium size and below creatures (including the PCs). If we have something bigger we tend to use the tops to Chessex dice containers since those take up about 4 squares each.
#26

Johnny_Angel

Nov 08, 2006 4:01:27
It's a little cheesy, but the little plastic army men that you can buy seem to work fairly well, and you can normally buy a pack of them for a buck or two. There are different sizes though, so look at the bases of them before buying them if you go with this option because some of them are pretty close to D&D mini sizes, but some have big bases. They also work well for D20 Modern games.
#27

transit

Nov 08, 2006 12:31:04
Also, fun sized Almond Joy bars are almost the perfect size and shape for horses. Use the mound variety for riderless horses, and the almond kind for horses with riders.

No no NO! The almond kind are for CAMELS!

:D
#28

inkblot

Nov 08, 2006 22:41:42
My group pooled together all our Lego men and equipment and then for bases just cut the thin Lego boards into squares that full either the medium or large creature. It works pretty well and is customizable enough where the minis seem realistic to the characters. Minis are just too expensive and random for my liking.

I agree completely! I use Lego men almost exclusively, but I haven't been able to convince my friends of Lego's superiority. We're not hurting for minis though. There's one guy in our group who actually likes to buy minis, and our usual DM has bags full of plastic army men.

Chessex dice containers, and their lids, come in very handy. We usually place a mini on top of a lid to represent temporarily enlarged creatures, and on top of the clear containers to represent flying creatures.
#29

zombiegleemax

Nov 09, 2006 12:44:09
*Shudders at the thought of damaging and defacing his precious Legos by gluing them onto boards or cutting the baseplates apart*

You know, a 1" square is about 3 Lego studs square. I usually use 2x3 pieces, sticking the Lego person's feet in the middle two.

6x6 works well for Large creatures, and 8x8 works for Huge. (or two 4x8 plates side by side...) Anything bigger you'll probably have to put smaller plates together to make the base.

However, all the people I play with like using D&D minis, and Lego people are noticeably taller than the figurines. I had a Dwarven Wizard once, who was made of legos, in a party of D&D minis. He was the only Dwarf I've ever seen who was a good foot taller than the full grown humans...Of course now that I have a couple of those little legs they give Yoda, I could probably make him fit in the game if we still played it.

It takes a lot of time and effort, but I like to make my own miniatures out of paperclip wire frames and baking modeling clay. Its fun having Minis that look like official D&D minis but being my own custom characters.
#30

oswald_krato

Nov 15, 2006 16:15:03
These are all very groovy ideas, except Edymnions, whose is groovylicious. Seriously, Ed, Those game-pieces (or reeses-pieces, whichever) would not last long at all around me. :D

Indeed. Our group used Swedish Fish for ordinary baddies, and larger and larger food objects for bigger badguys. Putting mounted characters on top of dice made them visibly taller and covered the size/space issues. DM had minis for each major party role (though some were a bit of a stretch).

Giving a whole new meaning to "so-and-so eats it". Bonus EXP for whoever brings in the best cand-err, minis! =P

Oz
#31

zombiegleemax

Nov 15, 2006 20:22:32
We use Risk pieces for massive battles like armies and such.

I like the using candy for monsters idea, positive reinforcement. If you kill the monsters, you get candy!
#32

darth_borehd

Nov 16, 2006 11:32:11
One gaming group I was in had a player who didn't believe in using miniatures. The DM insisted that he choose a miniature from his large collection for which he had just installed some display shelves. To protest, he instead took the socket wrench connector that was used to install the shelves and declared that this was his "paladin in shining armor" and used it for the rest of the campaign.
#33

zombiegleemax

Nov 20, 2006 14:17:02
A nice place to get printable battle grids in pdf is here:

http://www.incompetech.com/beta/plainGraphPaper/