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#1 zombiegleemax Dec 06, 2006 23:15:52	We can't seem to find a guideline in any of the manuals that we own. We have found mention that potion creation costs hundreds of gold (in the DM's Guide I think) but thought it unreasonable for a healing potion. Is there a reference out there for items such as a healing potion? I suppose that it would depend on one's campaign, but a spring-board would be nice! Thanks!
#2 extempus Dec 06, 2006 23:57:39	In the 1e DMG (p. 116), the guideline is the XP amount for any given potion is the same amount in gp that the wizard will need to spend on ingredients for the potion. If no xp amount is given, then it costs a minimum of 200 gp. If an alchemist is employed to help, then the time to brew and the cost is halved. Creation time is 1 day/100 xp of the potion, rounded up to the nearest 100. Therefore, a potion of healing (200 xp) would cost 200 gp and 2 days to manufacture, according to the 1e DMG rules, but a growth potion (250 xp) would cost 250 gp and take 3 days to brew. I hope that helps.
#3 ferns Dec 07, 2006 2:55:18	I use a table I found once in one of my books, I cant remember which though since I scanned it, converted it to pdf and printed it. But anyway here is the list: Astral spell: 5000 gp per person Atonement: 500 gp per level of experience of the recipient Augury: 300 gp Bless: 5 gp per person per level of caster Commune: 1000gp + 500 gp per question Continual light: 500 gp Control weather: 10000 gp Cure blindness: 1000 gp Cure disease: 1000 gp Cure l wounds: 100 gp Cure s wounds: 150 gp Cure c wounds: 600 gp Detect e/g: 100 gp Detect magic: 150 gp Dispel e/g: 1000 gp Dispel magic: 100 gp per level of caster Divination: 1000 gp Earthquake: 10000 gp Exorcise: 1000 gp per level of caster Find the path: 500 gp per level of caster Gate: 50000 gp Glyph of ward.: 100 gp per level of caster Heal: 200 per point of heal Neutralize pois.: 1000 gp Part water: 1000 gp per level of caster Plane shift: 4000 gp Prayer: 50 gp per level of caster Prot from evil: 50 gp per level of caster Purify food/drink: 100 gp Raise dead: 1000 gp plus 500 per level of caster Regenerate: 15000 gp Remove curse: 500 gp per level of caster Resist cold: 50 gp per level of caster Resist fire: 100 gp per level of caster Restoration: 10000 gp plus a like amount per level of experience of the recipient. Silence: 100 gp per level of caster Slow poison: 200 gp per level of caster Speak w. dead: 100 gp per level of caster Tongues: 500 gp True seeing: 400 gp per level of caster
#4 samualt_barronsword Dec 07, 2006 16:35:21	The "mention" you refer to in the 2E DMG (pg. 87), are the only guidelines you will find. By those guidelines, to create a potion you need 200 to 1000 gp of rather common ingredients, one or more special ingredients above and beyond that, which is/are harder to come by than just buying it/them from a local market (DM decides what those may be and how difficult they may be to obtain), and you need a laboratory with a minimum 2000 gp worth of equipment as well. If those guidelines seem unreasonable to you for creating healing potions, and you don't think lowering the cost and requirements will adversly affect your game if the PC's and NPC's can make healing potions cheaply and easily, then do so (I assume your the DM and have that power in your campaign). But don't waste your time looking for an "official" 2E rule that says what the DMG says on potion creation cost is incorrect, it ain't out there.
#5 zombiegleemax Dec 09, 2006 18:38:39	The Book of Artifacts has nice rules for creating all magic items. You can make it as detailed or not as you prefer.
#6 zombiegleemax Dec 10, 2006 1:44:02	Thanks everyone! Samual: That would be the "mention"! I am the DM and had considered making healing potions more accessable in my campaign, but would prefer to have my players keep on their toes a little more and not depend on potions. I know that a price isn't carved in stone anywhere, but wanted a rough guideline so that I can judge how common an item it would be. Ferns & Extempus: I will be sure to keep note of that pricing! I am just starting out, and still getting a feel for what is a reasonable availability. Wyrmbane: I do have the Book of Artifacts, but had not considered it for potions! I'll be sure to do that in future Cheers!
#7 zombiegleemax Dec 10, 2006 18:28:06	Glad I could help. Have you considered herbs? Great stuff, and provides more roleplaying opportunities. Makes the priests and mages even more valuable and versitale.