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#1 zombiegleemax Oct 31, 2006 15:49:16	A question that came to mind when reading the rules for Backstabbing. What weapons are accessable when using this ability? As it says nothing about it, I assume that any is fine. So a multiclass F/T could backstastab with a halberd for example? Seems ridiculous to me...
#2 agathokles Oct 31, 2006 16:09:23	A question that came to mind when reading the rules for Backstabbing. What weapons are accessable when using this ability? As it says nothing about it, I assume that any is fine. So a multiclass F/T could backstastab with a halberd for example? Seems ridiculous to me... I'd assume any melee weapon allowed to a thief. Of course since the PHB doesn't say much on the topic, it's up to the individual DM. G.
#3 zombiegleemax Oct 31, 2006 16:34:36	I'd assume any melee weapon allowed to a thief. Of course since the PHB doesn't say much on the topic, it's up to the individual DM. G. Well, yeah. That makes sense, but still... backstabbing with a club, lol.
#4 kintire Nov 01, 2006 10:02:48	backstabbing with a club, lol aka "coshing". Don't get hung up on the name too much. Its a precise attack executed on an unaware target... but they needed a punchier name than that!
#5 Elendur Nov 01, 2006 11:01:45	A question that came to mind when reading the rules for Backstabbing. What weapons are accessable when using this ability? As it says nothing about it, I assume that any is fine. So a multiclass F/T could backstastab with a halberd for example? Seems ridiculous to me... Ballistas work well, provided you can get it through the door of the tavern.
#6 zombiegleemax Nov 01, 2006 11:37:00	aka "coshing". Don't get hung up on the name too much. Its a precise attack executed on an unaware target... but they needed a punchier name than that! If you think of it that way, I guess you could backstab with any weapon. It still seem quite cumbersome but it can be done.
#7 weasel_fierce Nov 01, 2006 13:09:09	In AD&D1, it has to be a weapon permissable to the thief class. I forget if its different in 2nd edition, but thats how we always assumed it, being a thief ability and all
#8 zombiegleemax Nov 01, 2006 13:21:21	Hi, in Original D & D the Rules Cyclopedia says it must be a one handed melee weapon. Sorry if that's not your edition.
#9 zombiegleemax Nov 01, 2006 13:56:12	Hi, in Original D & D the Rules Cyclopedia says it must be a one handed melee weapon. Sorry if that's not your edition. Oh, I forgot to specify edition. Im' talking about AD&D 2nd edition. :D
#10 extempus Nov 01, 2006 15:49:59	I'd always assumed that to backstab, one had to have a sharp weapon (ie, dagger or sword of some description) that could be wielded in one hand; the other would be used to grab the victim's shoulder, for instance, to steady him (or her) before the thief stuck him with his weapon. Thus, using a two-handed sword, a polearm or a club simply can't be done.
#11 zombiegleemax Nov 01, 2006 16:51:22	I could see doing it with a one handed blunt weapon. Instead of sticking it through the ribs you crack 'em on the back of the skull.
#12 emeriliath Nov 02, 2006 0:41:08	Folks, Have you never heard of the blackjack? Time-honored weapon of the backstab. Basically a mini-club that knocked victims unconscious (who didn't have helmets). I'm basically a 1st/2nd ed player, and I've never seen a backstab that wasn't a shortsword, dagger or club (at least I can't remember it). Clubs were the lowest frequency of the three (probably only one character ever used it).
#13 zombiegleemax Nov 02, 2006 2:19:24	I think the rules (2E) intend to allow any melee weapon on the thief list. Personally, I will allow almost any weapon the character is proficent in, given a plausible situation.