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#1
zombiegleemax
Apr 27, 2004 13:18:31 Just got rid of all of it this week....all of it!!! If it had a 3 and a .5 in it, it was gone!!! I gave it the good fight, but i guess i'm not a 3.5 kinda guy. It just became too damn much! After all these years of of reading about "why the older version of the game" is better than 3/3.5...i still couldnt pin-point an exact reason why other than "er...well...it just is...to me". So, before i got seriously ill, i dumped my 3.5 stuff and traded them in for...2 copies of the RC (not in perfect condition...but i already own 2 in perfect condition), the B/X rulebooks, and Gaz 1 through 5!!! Dont you just love it when good things happen to good ppl?
#2
zombiegleemax
Apr 27, 2004 16:30:08 In about 1992 I traded all of my FR and 2e stuff to a dude for the full run of GAZ's. Absolutely the best trade I've ever made. 12 years later, the $ for $ portion of the trade is astronomically in my favor, but that's not the best part. If I'd have kept the 2e stuff, I would have never played D&D again. The GAZ's re-awoke my interest in D&D, and 12 years later, I'm still plaing, with those GAZ's a big part of the materials I use.

R.A.
#3
blackprinceofmuncie
Apr 27, 2004 17:10:17 Hehe...Me too! Just sold the last of my 3rd ed stuff on Amazon this week. Now it's time to fill the old bookshelf back up with books that smell like D&D books are supposed to smell.
#4
zombiegleemax
Apr 28, 2004 7:53:54 i never got rid of any of my stuff and i'm still buy the old stuff wherever and whenever i can find it.:D
#5
Thailfi
Apr 28, 2004 8:31:44 What the heck is:

RC
B/X
Gaz?
#6
zombiegleemax
Apr 28, 2004 8:39:15
Originally posted by Thailfi
What the heck is:

RC
B/X
Gaz?

I believe that:

Gaz= The Gazetteer

B/X= The Basic and Expert boxed sets

R/C= Red Covered Basic Set? Not totally sure on this one...
#7
zombiegleemax
Apr 28, 2004 8:42:37 RC= Rules Cyclopedia
#8
zombiegleemax
Apr 28, 2004 11:16:41 RC = Rules Cyclopedia. The collected and slightly revised edition of the Basic - Master D&D sets. An excellent book that I highly recommend for anyone wishing to dive into OD&D (The box sets are still worth trying to get over time, but I myself prefer the RC.).

B / X = The Basic Dungeons and Dragons game and associated product line (X).

GAZ = The Gazetteer series which presented information on the world(s) of B / X D&D and their peoples.
#9
zombiegleemax
Apr 28, 2004 12:19:53 Not something I would have done...but if it helped your game then awesome!
#10
Thailfi
Apr 28, 2004 12:56:48 I have always had a strong negative opinion of those Gazettes. It doesn't come from reading them and deciding the material was lacking. It comes from my viewpoint as an 8th grader on an allowance watching these things come out rapid fire and thinking "Does TSR really think I am going to spend money like crazy on these things and they are not even adventures?"

We never got the boxed sets. We went right to AD&D. I think I got $5 a week back in 1980 and I spent all my money on the Player's Handbook, DM's Guide, Monster Manual, 4 of those Grenadier gold boxes of miniatures, dice, and the shared expenses of getting the slaver series, Dwellers of the Forbidden City, Lost Cavern of Tsojcanth, Against the Giants, and the unerdark series through Demonweb Pits.

So I have little experience with the stuff in this thread. I have a misty recollection of my first D&D experience where my DM was the only one with a boxed set that came with a blue covered guide book and the adventure "In Search of the Unknown" There were just three of us so I had two character. A human cleric (named Aragorn - hey I was 12) and a dwarf with a class of dwarf.

I don't think we will ever get this stuff as the impression that I have of it is that it requires a lot of creative time to be put in by the DM and with all of us having careers, homes, and families, we don't have time to devote to it. Maybe I'm wrong.
#11
zombiegleemax
Apr 28, 2004 13:29:00
Originally posted by Falstaff the Fighter
RC = Rules Cyclopedia. The collected and slightly revised edition of the Basic - Master D&D sets. An excellent book that I highly recommend for anyone wishing to dive into OD&D (The box sets are still worth trying to get over time, but I myself prefer the RC.).

B / X = The Basic Dungeons and Dragons game and associated product line (X).

GAZ = The Gazetteer series which presented information on the world(s) of B / X D&D and their peoples.

Is it disturbing that I have these things in near perfect condition in my attic? Except the Gazatteer series. I wasn't even born then.

Maybe I should actually get a good old D&D first edition group together.
#12
robertfisher
Apr 28, 2004 14:20:14
Originally posted by skathros
So, before i got seriously ill, i dumped my 3.5 stuff and traded them in for...2 copies of the RC (not in perfect condition...but i already own 2 in perfect condition), the B/X rulebooks, and Gaz 1 through 5!!! Dont you just love it when good things happen to good ppl?

Congratulations! B/X (specifically the c. 1981 Basic/Expert sets) are where its at! Those RCs & GAZes can be handy references as well.
#13
zombiegleemax
Apr 28, 2004 14:24:55
Originally posted by hamletru
Is it disturbing that I have these things in near perfect condition in my attic? Except the Gazatteer series. I wasn't even born then.

Its so disturbing I think you should get rid of those books. I'd be glad to take em off your hands....

;)
#14
kengar
Apr 28, 2004 14:32:25 I still have all my d20 stuff, though I recently unloaded all my Hackmaster books (what was I thinking buying THAT??). I don't really plan to play 3.X again, certainly not to DM it, but I have a hard time letting it all go. 1) 'cuz I'm a pack rat and 2) it was 3.0e that got my group (and me) gaming again after a dry spell of several years. Now it's Moldvay/Cook & Pinnacle's Savage Worlds for me. :D

EDIT: I should note that when I wonder why I bought the HM stuff, it's not that I'm slamming the game; it's just that it was a couple hundred bucks of stuff that never got used.
#15
zombiegleemax
Apr 28, 2004 14:36:50
Originally posted by Gandalf_Istari
Its so disturbing I think you should get rid of those books. I'd be glad to take em off your hands....

;)

Erm, no. I'm sorry, but I'm rather attached to them just like I am to my 1ed Advanced D&D books vintage 70's. As well as my 2nd edition books including almost all the class/race specific books. As well as all my good old campaign settings.

One day, some day, I'll find a group that still uses 2nd edition. Then, on that day, I will truly have found heaven.

*insert angelic chorus*
#16
zombiegleemax
Apr 28, 2004 15:57:06
Originally posted by kengar
[b] Now it's Moldvay/Cook & Pinnacle's Savage Worlds for me. :D

hmmmm, sounds like someone i know!
#17
rian_lightblade
Apr 28, 2004 16:12:44
Originally posted by Serena DarkMyst
Not something I would have done

Same here! But if it make you happy dude, then more power to you. Seriously the GAZs are like the best investments I ever made in my earlier days of gaming.
#18
zombiegleemax
Apr 29, 2004 21:42:34 Hmmm. I never got rid of my 1e stuff when I started picking up 2e. Never had to worry about offloading any 3e since I never picked up any of it (too much invested in the other stuff to even think about it). But, a good score for you. Anything before the current edition(s) are hard to find, and usually pricey when you do find it.
#19
zombiegleemax
Apr 30, 2004 10:00:32
Originally posted by Wyrmbane
Anything before the current edition(s) are hard to find, and usually pricey when you do find it.

A common misconception. Pre-3e stuff is actually quite common and cheaper than buying the 3e stuff new. Check out ebay.com.

The stuff produced from about 78 to 84 or so, including old modules like Keep on the Borderland and the core rule books like the DMG and Basic Set went through numerous printings. They were produced in the millions and are simply not that hard to find at a decent price. Items produced in the later part of the 80's weren't printed in anywhere near the quantity and tend to be a bit rarer and pricier. Printing rates picked up again in the early 90's making early 2e stuff (through '94 or so) beyond easy to find. I've still got shops in town who never moved that stuff in the first place, so you can buy it unused.

R.A.
#20
zombiegleemax
Apr 30, 2004 11:33:51 I made the mistake of being dazzled by all the 3.0 and 3.5 stuff coming out and getting rid of most of my 2e AD&D stuff to buy it. Now, I realize that I miss the feel of AD&D and the rules I liked and that I had lots more fun playing that than 3.X-anything.
So, I'm dumping all of my 3.X and whatever 2e stuff I have left (since I can't have a complete collection of the stuff I used to have) and will be buying 2e ESDs like crazy from SVGames.
*sigh* The stupid mistakes I sometimes make.
#21
zombiegleemax
May 04, 2004 16:33:58 Well all of you that have decided to get rid of yer 3.x ed. books, I can't say that I blame any of you, but as I still have all of my previous editions, and 3rd edition, I find that they all compliment each other when I'm needing answers.
#22
zombiegleemax
May 04, 2004 22:58:42 Although I have become quite a enjoyer of 3/3.5 during the last years, I still feel glad of my decition of keeping each and every single book/magazine/extra I ever bought for D&D. Most of my collection is still AD&D, despite all the books I have been getting for 3/3.5 lately. But I suppose I could not sleep well without knowing that the good Book of Magic is resting just one room away, leaned against the never-old and original Manual of the Planes.

I steel feel strange, however, when I find that there are still a few sheets unused left on the original D&D Character Record Set. Just writing a character on one of them sends them back in time a lot of years.
#23
WSmith
May 10, 2004 19:34:37 As soon as I can, all my 3e stuff will meet ebay and a new home.
#24
ORC_Paradox
May 10, 2004 22:22:56
I steel feel strange, however, when I find that there are still a few sheets unused left on the original D&D Character Record Set. Just writing a character on one of them sends them back in time a lot of years.

I still have mine. In fact, back then I didn't use the original sheets, I photocopied them for personal use. (They were too pretty to mark up, and constantly erasing the HP box, so it became a hole wasn't good. I wanted to preserve the originals.)
#25
algolei_dup
May 11, 2004 7:07:10 I only used photocopies, never the originals. You'd think I'd still have them then, but no, they're nowhere to be found. And I never throw stuff out--I can still find unfinished homework from Grade 2!

(What! I'll finish it, I'll finish it! But first I gotta, uh, go to the bathroom.)

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#1 zombiegleemax Apr 27, 2004 13:18:31	Just got rid of all of it this week....all of it!!! If it had a 3 and a .5 in it, it was gone!!! I gave it the good fight, but i guess i'm not a 3.5 kinda guy. It just became too damn much! After all these years of of reading about "why the older version of the game" is better than 3/3.5...i still couldnt pin-point an exact reason why other than "er...well...it just is...to me". So, before i got seriously ill, i dumped my 3.5 stuff and traded them in for...2 copies of the RC (not in perfect condition...but i already own 2 in perfect condition), the B/X rulebooks, and Gaz 1 through 5!!! Dont you just love it when good things happen to good ppl?
#2 zombiegleemax Apr 27, 2004 16:30:08	In about 1992 I traded all of my FR and 2e stuff to a dude for the full run of GAZ's. Absolutely the best trade I've ever made. 12 years later, the $ for $ portion of the trade is astronomically in my favor, but that's not the best part. If I'd have kept the 2e stuff, I would have never played D&D again. The GAZ's re-awoke my interest in D&D, and 12 years later, I'm still plaing, with those GAZ's a big part of the materials I use. R.A.
#3 blackprinceofmuncie Apr 27, 2004 17:10:17	Hehe...Me too! Just sold the last of my 3rd ed stuff on Amazon this week. Now it's time to fill the old bookshelf back up with books that smell like D&D books are supposed to smell.
#4 zombiegleemax Apr 28, 2004 7:53:54	i never got rid of any of my stuff and i'm still buy the old stuff wherever and whenever i can find it.:D
#5 Thailfi Apr 28, 2004 8:31:44	What the heck is: RC B/X Gaz?
#6 zombiegleemax Apr 28, 2004 8:39:15	Originally posted by Thailfi What the heck is: RC B/X Gaz? I believe that: Gaz= The Gazetteer B/X= The Basic and Expert boxed sets R/C= Red Covered Basic Set? Not totally sure on this one...
#7 zombiegleemax Apr 28, 2004 8:42:37	RC= Rules Cyclopedia
#8 zombiegleemax Apr 28, 2004 11:16:41	RC = Rules Cyclopedia. The collected and slightly revised edition of the Basic - Master D&D sets. An excellent book that I highly recommend for anyone wishing to dive into OD&D (The box sets are still worth trying to get over time, but I myself prefer the RC.). B / X = The Basic Dungeons and Dragons game and associated product line (X). GAZ = The Gazetteer series which presented information on the world(s) of B / X D&D and their peoples.
#9 zombiegleemax Apr 28, 2004 12:19:53	Not something I would have done...but if it helped your game then awesome!
#10 Thailfi Apr 28, 2004 12:56:48	I have always had a strong negative opinion of those Gazettes. It doesn't come from reading them and deciding the material was lacking. It comes from my viewpoint as an 8th grader on an allowance watching these things come out rapid fire and thinking "Does TSR really think I am going to spend money like crazy on these things and they are not even adventures?" We never got the boxed sets. We went right to AD&D. I think I got $5 a week back in 1980 and I spent all my money on the Player's Handbook, DM's Guide, Monster Manual, 4 of those Grenadier gold boxes of miniatures, dice, and the shared expenses of getting the slaver series, Dwellers of the Forbidden City, Lost Cavern of Tsojcanth, Against the Giants, and the unerdark series through Demonweb Pits. So I have little experience with the stuff in this thread. I have a misty recollection of my first D&D experience where my DM was the only one with a boxed set that came with a blue covered guide book and the adventure "In Search of the Unknown" There were just three of us so I had two character. A human cleric (named Aragorn - hey I was 12) and a dwarf with a class of dwarf. I don't think we will ever get this stuff as the impression that I have of it is that it requires a lot of creative time to be put in by the DM and with all of us having careers, homes, and families, we don't have time to devote to it. Maybe I'm wrong.
#11 zombiegleemax Apr 28, 2004 13:29:00	Originally posted by Falstaff the Fighter RC = Rules Cyclopedia. The collected and slightly revised edition of the Basic - Master D&D sets. An excellent book that I highly recommend for anyone wishing to dive into OD&D (The box sets are still worth trying to get over time, but I myself prefer the RC.). B / X = The Basic Dungeons and Dragons game and associated product line (X). GAZ = The Gazetteer series which presented information on the world(s) of B / X D&D and their peoples. Is it disturbing that I have these things in near perfect condition in my attic? Except the Gazatteer series. I wasn't even born then. Maybe I should actually get a good old D&D first edition group together.
#12 robertfisher Apr 28, 2004 14:20:14	Originally posted by skathros So, before i got seriously ill, i dumped my 3.5 stuff and traded them in for...2 copies of the RC (not in perfect condition...but i already own 2 in perfect condition), the B/X rulebooks, and Gaz 1 through 5!!! Dont you just love it when good things happen to good ppl? Congratulations! B/X (specifically the c. 1981 Basic/Expert sets) are where its at! Those RCs & GAZes can be handy references as well.
#13 zombiegleemax Apr 28, 2004 14:24:55	Originally posted by hamletru Is it disturbing that I have these things in near perfect condition in my attic? Except the Gazatteer series. I wasn't even born then. Its so disturbing I think you should get rid of those books. I'd be glad to take em off your hands.... ;)
#14 kengar Apr 28, 2004 14:32:25	I still have all my d20 stuff, though I recently unloaded all my Hackmaster books (what was I thinking buying THAT??). I don't really plan to play 3.X again, certainly not to DM it, but I have a hard time letting it all go. 1) 'cuz I'm a pack rat and 2) it was 3.0e that got my group (and me) gaming again after a dry spell of several years. Now it's Moldvay/Cook & Pinnacle's Savage Worlds for me. :D EDIT: I should note that when I wonder why I bought the HM stuff, it's not that I'm slamming the game; it's just that it was a couple hundred bucks of stuff that never got used.
#15 zombiegleemax Apr 28, 2004 14:36:50	Originally posted by Gandalf_Istari Its so disturbing I think you should get rid of those books. I'd be glad to take em off your hands.... ;) Erm, no. I'm sorry, but I'm rather attached to them just like I am to my 1ed Advanced D&D books vintage 70's. As well as my 2nd edition books including almost all the class/race specific books. As well as all my good old campaign settings. One day, some day, I'll find a group that still uses 2nd edition. Then, on that day, I will truly have found heaven. insert angelic chorus
#16 zombiegleemax Apr 28, 2004 15:57:06	Originally posted by kengar [b] Now it's Moldvay/Cook & Pinnacle's Savage Worlds for me. :D hmmmm, sounds like someone i know!
#17 rian_lightblade Apr 28, 2004 16:12:44	Originally posted by Serena DarkMyst Not something I would have done Same here! But if it make you happy dude, then more power to you. Seriously the GAZs are like the best investments I ever made in my earlier days of gaming.
#18 zombiegleemax Apr 29, 2004 21:42:34	Hmmm. I never got rid of my 1e stuff when I started picking up 2e. Never had to worry about offloading any 3e since I never picked up any of it (too much invested in the other stuff to even think about it). But, a good score for you. Anything before the current edition(s) are hard to find, and usually pricey when you do find it.
#19 zombiegleemax Apr 30, 2004 10:00:32	Originally posted by Wyrmbane Anything before the current edition(s) are hard to find, and usually pricey when you do find it. A common misconception. Pre-3e stuff is actually quite common and cheaper than buying the 3e stuff new. Check out ebay.com. The stuff produced from about 78 to 84 or so, including old modules like Keep on the Borderland and the core rule books like the DMG and Basic Set went through numerous printings. They were produced in the millions and are simply not that hard to find at a decent price. Items produced in the later part of the 80's weren't printed in anywhere near the quantity and tend to be a bit rarer and pricier. Printing rates picked up again in the early 90's making early 2e stuff (through '94 or so) beyond easy to find. I've still got shops in town who never moved that stuff in the first place, so you can buy it unused. R.A.
#20 zombiegleemax Apr 30, 2004 11:33:51	I made the mistake of being dazzled by all the 3.0 and 3.5 stuff coming out and getting rid of most of my 2e AD&D stuff to buy it. Now, I realize that I miss the feel of AD&D and the rules I liked and that I had lots more fun playing that than 3.X-anything. So, I'm dumping all of my 3.X and whatever 2e stuff I have left (since I can't have a complete collection of the stuff I used to have) and will be buying 2e ESDs like crazy from SVGames. sigh The stupid mistakes I sometimes make.
#21 zombiegleemax May 04, 2004 16:33:58	Well all of you that have decided to get rid of yer 3.x ed. books, I can't say that I blame any of you, but as I still have all of my previous editions, and 3rd edition, I find that they all compliment each other when I'm needing answers.
#22 zombiegleemax May 04, 2004 22:58:42	Although I have become quite a enjoyer of 3/3.5 during the last years, I still feel glad of my decition of keeping each and every single book/magazine/extra I ever bought for D&D. Most of my collection is still AD&D, despite all the books I have been getting for 3/3.5 lately. But I suppose I could not sleep well without knowing that the good Book of Magic is resting just one room away, leaned against the never-old and original Manual of the Planes. I steel feel strange, however, when I find that there are still a few sheets unused left on the original D&D Character Record Set. Just writing a character on one of them sends them back in time a lot of years.
#23 WSmith May 10, 2004 19:34:37	As soon as I can, all my 3e stuff will meet ebay and a new home.
#24 ORC_Paradox May 10, 2004 22:22:56	I steel feel strange, however, when I find that there are still a few sheets unused left on the original D&D Character Record Set. Just writing a character on one of them sends them back in time a lot of years. I still have mine. In fact, back then I didn't use the original sheets, I photocopied them for personal use. (They were too pretty to mark up, and constantly erasing the HP box, so it became a hole wasn't good. I wanted to preserve the originals.)
#25 algolei_dup May 11, 2004 7:07:10	I only used photocopies, never the originals. You'd think I'd still have them then, but no, they're nowhere to be found. And I never throw stuff out--I can still find unfinished homework from Grade 2! (What! I'll finish it, I'll finish it! But first I gotta, uh, go to the bathroom.)