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#1 zombiegleemax Jan 20, 2004 1:54:36	Why is morale incl. in D&D but not in AD&D monster descriptions??? What to do?
#2 zombiegleemax Jan 20, 2004 13:24:45	i dont really understand what you wanna say by this.. morale is include in the description of all monster in the Monstrous Manual of the 2 edition ? also you can, as a dm, put one by logic
#3 zombiegleemax Jan 20, 2004 14:31:39	OK, let me be more specific, I'm playing 1st ed. D&D but am integrating some AD&D rules into a current campaign........the basic D&D rule book has morale listed for monsters whereas the Monster Man. I & II do not...I know that it can be up to the dm and circumstances, etc. but it's cool to have a value to roll against esp. when fighting a large group of monsters ie) 12 orcs....if my fighter cut the head off the orc leader..........well......I can use the D&D morale rules.....but for more complex monsters that the D&D rules don't cover.......???
#4 hunter_rose_02 Jan 20, 2004 15:32:52	I suppose you could start with a simple check against the creatures Wisdom (as one doesn't reason moral) and modify that based on the circumstances: damage taken, comrades dead, spells uncast, motivation to fight in the first place...
#5 zombiegleemax Jan 20, 2004 15:49:58	Use the morale rules in DMG pp. 36-37. In the original AD&D, morale is not a score particular to a monster; it is a percentage that has the modifiers listed on those pages. If you wanted to, you could add up all appropriate modifiers ahead of time to find a monster's "morale base," but the number would be different depending on lots of factors, so it's not included in the monster's description. For instance, well-paid orcs would be less likely to break or surrender than badly-treated orc slaves. David Stardate 4054.5