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Question about 1e spell

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#1
sildatorak
Apr 03, 2004 13:14:42 I was going to run a 2e quest with a marid in it, but they have Alter Reality as an ability. A few minutes with google showed me that it was a 1st ed, wish-like spell, but I am still wondering what its exact effects are. What are the limits on its power, does it age you, etc?

Thanks in advance.
#2
samualt_barronsword
Apr 03, 2004 17:29:31 It is an Illusionist spell similar to limited wish. In 1E the Illusionist is in a character class seperate from Wizards, and has its own set of spells. Alter Reality is the Illusionist version of limited wish and in the 1E PHB the spell description of Alter Reality refers you back to the spell description of limited wish to see how it can be used.

Alter Reality does not age you, but then again neither does limited wish, in 1E. I beleive aging characters for casting certain spells is a 2E thing.

In a 2E campaign I would just run it as a creature with the ability to cast limited wish, and unless you think this marid thing is likely to drop dead in the middle of your campaign from old age due to casting limited wish, I wouldn't worry about the age thing. If you are afraid of that, well, just fudge it. If it's a problem, ignore the aging aspect of the spell, and rule marids have the special ability to cast limited wish without being aged. In any event the PC's probably don't know how long a marid can live or what aging will do to it, so if they don't ask I wouldn't worry about explaining.
#3
stonebeard
Apr 03, 2004 19:51:48 level: 7
Components: Special
Range: Unlimited
Casting Time: Special
Duration: Special
Saving Throw: Special
Area of Affect: Special

Explaination/Description: The alter reality spell is simliar to the seventh level magic-user limited wish spell (q.v.), In order to effect the magic fully, the illusionist must depict the enactment of the alteration of reality through the casting of a phntasmal force, as well as verbalization in a limited form, before the spell goes into action.

This is typed directly fromt he 1e players handbook and as you might guess I play mostly dwarven fighters so I have only the literal meaning above to go by myself, i.e. no actual experience in dealing with this spell as a DM or a player.

hope this helps
#4
sildatorak
Apr 03, 2004 22:56:59 Thanks guys, that was exactly what I needed. And don't worry about that marid dying of old age, marids are water genies so that doesn't really apply to them.
#5
zombiegleemax
Apr 03, 2004 23:31:19 I could swear there was a spell with the same name in the ToM.
#6
sildatorak
Apr 04, 2004 13:33:17
Originally posted by Wyrmbane
I could swear there was a spell with the same name in the ToM.

Nope, checked that one. It was alternate reality. It was a third level spell that allowed a reroll of any one die in the previous round.
#7
zombiegleemax
Apr 05, 2004 21:19:43 That might have been what I was thinking of. After a while, everything starts to blend together. :/

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 sildatorak Apr 03, 2004 13:14:42	I was going to run a 2e quest with a marid in it, but they have Alter Reality as an ability. A few minutes with google showed me that it was a 1st ed, wish-like spell, but I am still wondering what its exact effects are. What are the limits on its power, does it age you, etc? Thanks in advance.
#2 samualt_barronsword Apr 03, 2004 17:29:31	It is an Illusionist spell similar to limited wish. In 1E the Illusionist is in a character class seperate from Wizards, and has its own set of spells. Alter Reality is the Illusionist version of limited wish and in the 1E PHB the spell description of Alter Reality refers you back to the spell description of limited wish to see how it can be used. Alter Reality does not age you, but then again neither does limited wish, in 1E. I beleive aging characters for casting certain spells is a 2E thing. In a 2E campaign I would just run it as a creature with the ability to cast limited wish, and unless you think this marid thing is likely to drop dead in the middle of your campaign from old age due to casting limited wish, I wouldn't worry about the age thing. If you are afraid of that, well, just fudge it. If it's a problem, ignore the aging aspect of the spell, and rule marids have the special ability to cast limited wish without being aged. In any event the PC's probably don't know how long a marid can live or what aging will do to it, so if they don't ask I wouldn't worry about explaining.
#3 stonebeard Apr 03, 2004 19:51:48	level: 7 Components: Special Range: Unlimited Casting Time: Special Duration: Special Saving Throw: Special Area of Affect: Special Explaination/Description: The alter reality spell is simliar to the seventh level magic-user limited wish spell (q.v.), In order to effect the magic fully, the illusionist must depict the enactment of the alteration of reality through the casting of a phntasmal force, as well as verbalization in a limited form, before the spell goes into action. This is typed directly fromt he 1e players handbook and as you might guess I play mostly dwarven fighters so I have only the literal meaning above to go by myself, i.e. no actual experience in dealing with this spell as a DM or a player. hope this helps
#4 sildatorak Apr 03, 2004 22:56:59	Thanks guys, that was exactly what I needed. And don't worry about that marid dying of old age, marids are water genies so that doesn't really apply to them.
#5 zombiegleemax Apr 03, 2004 23:31:19	I could swear there was a spell with the same name in the ToM.
#6 sildatorak Apr 04, 2004 13:33:17	Originally posted by Wyrmbane I could swear there was a spell with the same name in the ToM. Nope, checked that one. It was alternate reality. It was a third level spell that allowed a reroll of any one die in the previous round.
#7 zombiegleemax Apr 05, 2004 21:19:43	That might have been what I was thinking of. After a while, everything starts to blend together. :/