unlimited casting of level 0 spells. - Downloaded from the Wizards Community, all coding removed by Solauren

unlimited casting of level 0 spells.

Post/Author/DateTime Post
#1
anearysm
May 03, 2008 0:18:46 I'm currently trying to put together some sort of new spellcasting system that works quasi-similarly to maneuvers. I don't have all of the kinks worked out on the yet, but in the meantime i will include one tiny advantageous bit of it in my games -- unlimited casting of 0-level spells (major exception being cure minor wounds, which would allow total healing between fights)

Are there any other exceptions that I should include?
#2
zeratulcraft
May 03, 2008 1:28:23 The Paizo pathfinder game does this already, cantrips are at will, and Cure Minor Wounds is replaced with Stabilize.
#3
Nathreet
May 09, 2008 16:42:30 FWIW I don't think Pathfinder has any other exceptions.
#4
thane26425
May 10, 2008 19:27:38 So, does Pathfinder allow unlimited use of spells like Daze, and the damaging cantrips?
#5
drizztrocks
May 10, 2008 22:57:28 Iv'e already house ruled this. Think-does it really unbalance the game to be able to cast Light as an at-will spell?
#6
cariyaga
May 10, 2008 22:58:05 Yes. There is no reason it wouldn't. Extremely low saves/damage makes those spells next to useless as you level up and even at level 1.
#7
sigma999
May 14, 2008 21:37:44 Unlimited L0 spells is fine. Friends and I did that since 3.0 came out, even with Cure Minor Wounds.
#8
clockworkrevenge
May 14, 2008 22:49:26
I'm currently trying to put together some sort of new spellcasting system that works quasi-similarly to maneuvers. I don't have all of the kinks worked out on the yet, but in the meantime i will include one tiny advantageous bit of it in my games -- unlimited casting of 0-level spells (major exception being cure minor wounds, which would allow total healing between fights)

Are there any other exceptions that I should include?

Acid splatter. No Lock, no door, no wall, no material anything w/o acid resistance will be able to stop a wizard who continously uses it. (Acid ignores hardness)
#9
r4za
May 15, 2008 6:31:58
Acid splatter. No Lock, no door, no wall, no material anything w/o acid resistance will be able to stop a wizard who continously uses it. (Acid ignores hardness)

Sortof like a first level warlock with Baleful Utterance then.

Good point though, since that's a prime warlock trick. But I think that instead of excluding spells like this and Cure Minor, which have value through sheer repeatability, you might be better off installing a general restriction on recasting the same spell on the same target. Something simple like 1 casting per target per minute should suffice to cull all exploitable cantrips like these.
#10
tequila_sunrise
May 15, 2008 15:22:32
Good point though, since that's a prime warlock trick. But I think that instead of excluding spells like this and Cure Minor, which have value through sheer repeatability, you might be better off installing a general restriction on recasting the same spell on the same target. Something simple like 1 casting per target per minute should suffice to cull all exploitable cantrips like these.

I think that's a better solution too. The Law of Resistance from Truename magic could be used here: every time you cast a 0-level spell on the same target you have to make a caster level check. The DC starts at 0 (or 5 or 10 or whatever) and then rises by 2 after each casting.

TS
#11
dawnbringer
May 16, 2008 6:34:41
Acid splatter. No Lock, no door, no wall, no material anything w/o acid resistance will be able to stop a wizard who continously uses it. (Acid ignores hardness)

Acid does not ignore hardness. It simply isn't halved before hardness applies.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 anearysm May 03, 2008 0:18:46	I'm currently trying to put together some sort of new spellcasting system that works quasi-similarly to maneuvers. I don't have all of the kinks worked out on the yet, but in the meantime i will include one tiny advantageous bit of it in my games -- unlimited casting of 0-level spells (major exception being cure minor wounds, which would allow total healing between fights) Are there any other exceptions that I should include?
#2 zeratulcraft May 03, 2008 1:28:23	The Paizo pathfinder game does this already, cantrips are at will, and Cure Minor Wounds is replaced with Stabilize.
#3 Nathreet May 09, 2008 16:42:30	FWIW I don't think Pathfinder has any other exceptions.
#4 thane26425 May 10, 2008 19:27:38	So, does Pathfinder allow unlimited use of spells like Daze, and the damaging cantrips?
#5 drizztrocks May 10, 2008 22:57:28	Iv'e already house ruled this. Think-does it really unbalance the game to be able to cast Light as an at-will spell?
#6 cariyaga May 10, 2008 22:58:05	Yes. There is no reason it wouldn't. Extremely low saves/damage makes those spells next to useless as you level up and even at level 1.
#7 sigma999 May 14, 2008 21:37:44	Unlimited L0 spells is fine. Friends and I did that since 3.0 came out, even with Cure Minor Wounds.
#8 clockworkrevenge May 14, 2008 22:49:26	I'm currently trying to put together some sort of new spellcasting system that works quasi-similarly to maneuvers. I don't have all of the kinks worked out on the yet, but in the meantime i will include one tiny advantageous bit of it in my games -- unlimited casting of 0-level spells (major exception being cure minor wounds, which would allow total healing between fights) Are there any other exceptions that I should include? Acid splatter. No Lock, no door, no wall, no material anything w/o acid resistance will be able to stop a wizard who continously uses it. (Acid ignores hardness)
#9 r4za May 15, 2008 6:31:58	Acid splatter. No Lock, no door, no wall, no material anything w/o acid resistance will be able to stop a wizard who continously uses it. (Acid ignores hardness) Sortof like a first level warlock with Baleful Utterance then. Good point though, since that's a prime warlock trick. But I think that instead of excluding spells like this and Cure Minor, which have value through sheer repeatability, you might be better off installing a general restriction on recasting the same spell on the same target. Something simple like 1 casting per target per minute should suffice to cull all exploitable cantrips like these.
#10 tequila_sunrise May 15, 2008 15:22:32	Good point though, since that's a prime warlock trick. But I think that instead of excluding spells like this and Cure Minor, which have value through sheer repeatability, you might be better off installing a general restriction on recasting the same spell on the same target. Something simple like 1 casting per target per minute should suffice to cull all exploitable cantrips like these. I think that's a better solution too. The Law of Resistance from Truename magic could be used here: every time you cast a 0-level spell on the same target you have to make a caster level check. The DC starts at 0 (or 5 or 10 or whatever) and then rises by 2 after each casting. TS
#11 dawnbringer May 16, 2008 6:34:41	Acid splatter. No Lock, no door, no wall, no material anything w/o acid resistance will be able to stop a wizard who continously uses it. (Acid ignores hardness) Acid does not ignore hardness. It simply isn't halved before hardness applies.