the first one is a fighter with a spear or like spear weapon( pierce, could be thrown, long), the concept is a character who jump and them attack, he said he want like :
the second one is a combination between a unarmed fighter and a women sorrcerer... somthing like a witch who cast spell that help her or harm the enemy by curses or touching them... but with the concept of a witch.
the third one is not a max characther but a succcubus who turned good, to be a shadow dancer- he prefer cool things and abilitys more then max the attack or defence...
what do you think, suggestion?
where could i fin how to build a succubus character...?
thank you all
to use Succubus ... you need to start at least @ 13th lvl (6 HD+6LA+1 class level), unless you have access to the book Savage Species... with a Racial Progression for Succumbus
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The first concept sounds like Little Red Raiding Hood/Dragoon/Battle Jump/etc.
Second sounds like unarmed Hexblade...Hexfist. Else, unarmed Duskblade. Are there debuffing Initiator maneuvers? "Dispel Magic (Ex)" Stunning Fist variant from some Dragon Magazine. Spellthief.
There's an actual example "Witch" PrC in the DMG. Does the use of Evocation count as "harm the enemy by curses or touching them"? Hand them Hexblade on a silver platter and see how they react.
There are too many concepts of witches, like Harry Potter (Hogwarts of Witchcraft...), Macbeth, Carrie, Kiki from Kiki's Delivery Service, etc.
Third is..? In this case, you need to make the player believe some other monster class is cool or cooler, or diminish the allure of the Succubus. It's evident this player is rather flighty. There's no avail in appeasing such a person until they are mature enough mechanically and philosophically.
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can't think of anything better for this concept.
For the first build, check out this:
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can't think of anything better for this concept.
i don't think that the DM will allow Psychic in the game... and i don't see a option without that...
what is the Dragonborn ?
one:
1lvl monk
7 lvl hedge
3 lvl fof
12-... lvl enlightened fist
two:
2 level monk or 1 lvl battle dancer
6 lvl shadowcaster
3lvl fof
and then more shadowcaster
three
4 sorcerer \dread necromancer
2 battle dancer
and then combination between dread witch and fof
what do you think? is the fof too much? i can get high damage without that or get some other class...
and about the little red raiding hood i could never understand the concept of tome of battle classes with the stance, maneuver... can you help me?
Otherwise, something like Ranger 4/ Scout 9/ Blade Dancer 7 would work. this could open up Swift hunter options too.
Dragonborn is an acquired template from Races of the Dragon (IIRC). You have to be devoted to Bahamut, and it gives some nice bonuses. Like wings.
For the second build, try looking at Enlightened Fist with Ascetic Mage to stack Sorcerer and Monk levels. Enlightened Fists can deliver touch spells and ray spells with unarmed strikes.
Hold on. You can hold the charge of a touch spell anyway, so you could just take Wizard 20 with Improved Unarmed Strike and only use touch spells. If you hold the charge and attack with an unarmed strike, you would do both unarmed damage and spell effect.
If you can use Oriental Adventures, you can use something like Sohei (OA) 4/ Scout 9/ Blade Dancer (OA) 7
Otherwise, something like Ranger 4/ Scout 9/ Blade Dancer 7 would work. this could open up Swift hunter options too.
Dragonborn is an acquired template from Races of the Dragon (IIRC). You have to be devoted to Bahamut, and it gives some nice bonuses. Like wings.
For the second build, try looking at Enlightened Fist with Ascetic Mage to stack Sorcerer and Monk levels. Enlightened Fists can deliver touch spells and ray spells with unarmed strikes.
Hold on. You can hold the charge of a touch spell anyway, so you could just take Wizard 20 with Improved Unarmed Strike and only use touch spells. If you hold the charge and attack with an unarmed strike, you would do both unarmed damage and spell effect.
i got confussed...
the first part of your reply- for which part of my massage is it?
what is ascetic mage?
how can the unarmed strik and spell effect stack?
he still want to be a good fighter, thats why it try not to think only in the magic kind of classes...
what could be the best why to go to the enlightened fist from: 1 battle dancer, 4 dread necromancer\sorcerer and some levels in dread witch ?
i know i need the stun and high BAB...
you might wonder why taking the battle dancer and not a monk... only because they both get unarmed strike and the defence of the bettle dancer is from cha and not wis... which goes well with the spell casting