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3.5 Gestalt Psion//Factotum

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#1
strider24seven
Jan 09, 2010 9:40:47
Hi everyone, just thought I'd jump into a high-powered game with a Psion//Factotum type character, but I want to be able to keep up with the rest of the group (never tried high-level psionics before).

Game is 32 point buy and starts at 18th level with standard wealth, probably proceeding into epic levels. That's if all the PC's are alive by then: the DM is pretty hardcore and loves killing powerful PC's (i.e. most of them)

The party:
Goliath PsyWar//Fighter spiked-chain tripper
Half-Orc Barbarian/Bear Warrior//Fighter
Gray Elf Wu-Jen/Incantatrix/Archmage//Duskblade
Lesser Aasimar Sorcerer/Various PrC's//Favored Soul.
Whisper Gnome Artificer//Wizard/Incantatrix/Shadowcraft Mage
Probably with various critters of the Artificer and the Wu-Jen's clones.

The party strategy is pretty simple. The Goliath locks down an area while the Bear Warrior rips peoples faces off and the spellcasters blast everything to oblivion

I'd probably be the int-based rogue fill-in or jack-of-all-trades kind of guy. I was thinking a level in Master of Masks (CS) for the gladiator mask for all exotic weapons and 2 or so levels in Chameleon for a floating feat. What are good PrC's for Psion's? I was thinking Illithid Slayer for a gish build or Anarchic Initiate for a blaster build.

This is a Forgotten Realms campaign, but just about any material is allowed (including Eberron material). The DM frowns upon 3.0 material, but is open to some things.

Just as a side note, the DM pretty much waves multi-classing penalties in gestalt as long as it doesn't get too ridiculous.

Any thoughts or suggestions?
#2
phoenix00
Jan 09, 2010 11:05:32 personally I would do straight factotum 18 and straight psion 18. You are one level away from cunning brilliance which is so much more versatile than a floating or gladiator's mask. 10 fighter feats, is so much more versatile than a floating feat.

You also can use level 9 powers.

Don't forget you get int to initative due to factotum 3.
#3
strider24seven
Jan 10, 2010 8:06:23 I think you're right about Cunning Brilliance. Factotum 18 it is then!
But what is the advantage of going straight Psion 18? As opposed to Psion 10/Full Manifesting PrC 8? I only lose one bonus feat and some Psicrystal abilities (although Channel Power can be pretty cool). Is there something else I'm missing?

Also, I think I forgot to mention that I'm probably going to be a Nomad.

Good call on the Brains over Brawn. I'd forgotten about that.

The DM is allowing me 2 researched powers right off the top (in addition to whatever I get from EK), so I was thinking Energy Missile, Schism, Control Body (w/Solicit Psicrystal of course), or Metamorphosis. Research 2 and EK the rest. Any other good non-Nomad powers I should be aware of?

#4
phoenix00
Jan 10, 2010 21:23:58 Schism, Fission, and Temporal Acceleration are all neccessary

And anything full manifesting is good, it doesn't have to be psion 18. There is just very few non full manifesting psionic prcs without adapting arcane or divine prcs.
#5
strider24seven
Jan 11, 2010 18:20:27 Fair point on the PrC's. There's some cool ones in Mind's Eye but none really that fit my concept.

Gotta love action nova's. Schism, Control Body, TA, and Cunning Surge are just brutal. On the enemy and my PP!

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#1 strider24seven Jan 09, 2010 9:40:47	Hi everyone, just thought I'd jump into a high-powered game with a Psion//Factotum type character, but I want to be able to keep up with the rest of the group (never tried high-level psionics before). Game is 32 point buy and starts at 18th level with standard wealth, probably proceeding into epic levels. That's if all the PC's are alive by then: the DM is pretty hardcore and loves killing powerful PC's (i.e. most of them) The party: Goliath PsyWar//Fighter spiked-chain tripper Half-Orc Barbarian/Bear Warrior//Fighter Gray Elf Wu-Jen/Incantatrix/Archmage//Duskblade Lesser Aasimar Sorcerer/Various PrC's//Favored Soul. Whisper Gnome Artificer//Wizard/Incantatrix/Shadowcraft Mage Probably with various critters of the Artificer and the Wu-Jen's clones. The party strategy is pretty simple. The Goliath locks down an area while the Bear Warrior rips peoples faces off and the spellcasters blast everything to oblivion I'd probably be the int-based rogue fill-in or jack-of-all-trades kind of guy. I was thinking a level in Master of Masks (CS) for the gladiator mask for all exotic weapons and 2 or so levels in Chameleon for a floating feat. What are good PrC's for Psion's? I was thinking Illithid Slayer for a gish build or Anarchic Initiate for a blaster build. This is a Forgotten Realms campaign, but just about any material is allowed (including Eberron material). The DM frowns upon 3.0 material, but is open to some things. Just as a side note, the DM pretty much waves multi-classing penalties in gestalt as long as it doesn't get too ridiculous. Any thoughts or suggestions?
#2 phoenix00 Jan 09, 2010 11:05:32	personally I would do straight factotum 18 and straight psion 18. You are one level away from cunning brilliance which is so much more versatile than a floating or gladiator's mask. 10 fighter feats, is so much more versatile than a floating feat. You also can use level 9 powers. Don't forget you get int to initative due to factotum 3.
#3 strider24seven Jan 10, 2010 8:06:23	I think you're right about Cunning Brilliance. Factotum 18 it is then! But what is the advantage of going straight Psion 18? As opposed to Psion 10/Full Manifesting PrC 8? I only lose one bonus feat and some Psicrystal abilities (although Channel Power can be pretty cool). Is there something else I'm missing? Also, I think I forgot to mention that I'm probably going to be a Nomad. Good call on the Brains over Brawn. I'd forgotten about that. The DM is allowing me 2 researched powers right off the top (in addition to whatever I get from EK), so I was thinking Energy Missile, Schism, Control Body (w/Solicit Psicrystal of course), or Metamorphosis. Research 2 and EK the rest. Any other good non-Nomad powers I should be aware of?
#4 phoenix00 Jan 10, 2010 21:23:58	Schism, Fission, and Temporal Acceleration are all neccessary And anything full manifesting is good, it doesn't have to be psion 18. There is just very few non full manifesting psionic prcs without adapting arcane or divine prcs.
#5 strider24seven Jan 11, 2010 18:20:27	Fair point on the PrC's. There's some cool ones in Mind's Eye but none really that fit my concept. Gotta love action nova's. Schism, Control Body, TA, and Cunning Surge are just brutal. On the enemy and my PP!